Patient Believes She was Wrongly Committed to the Psychiatric Hospital | Chicago Med | MD TV 

"Losing hope is not a mental illness" thank you Dr Charles!

So basically, the doctor in charge of the psych hospital is too arrogant to admit she made a mistake, is that right?

Putting someone on meds, locking them up and treating them like they aren't capable of a rational thought, probably isn't going to be that much help.

Once you have been labelled psychotic, there is no un-ringing that bell. No matter what you say, what proof you have, you will be ignored (best case scenario).

This is freaking insane, I literally went through this as a kid. Since then, my mother's been diagnosed with DID and literally switches back and forth. This, coupled with the abuse I suffered from her and her husband, made for a very violent childhood. No one ever wanted to listen when i told them she was insane, so anytime I see stuff like this, it hits close to home.

Remember being 12 years old and getting placed into a mental hospital for several months on false claims made by someone whom I’m not going to mention. Given false diagnosis and immediately put on heavy meds to “help”. Felt so isolated and it was a dehumanising experience, every doctor there treated you like you were a nobody. Something needs to change

There is a movie called Sucker Punch. It's about the wrongful committal of a teen for accidentally killing her sister because her father abuses both of them. It was the father's fault. But it shows how being in an unreasonable mental health facility can contribute to psychotic episodes. Zach Snyder, I think, it's awesome!!!

As someone wrongfully put in a psych ward, I will say I totally understand her actions. Being in an environment where mental health is really treated like a game, it really breaks down your mental health and can make whatever you're going through worse. It's this double edged sword of not being let go until your "stable" but the place is the one thing making you unstable. It can feel like a lose-lose situation for sure.

From the way it sounds, the girl seems to have anxiety and fear over being misdiagnosed. Given she said she was abused by her mother and that the mom herself gave a false story about her daughter being crazy, I don't get why they didn't let the daughter speak up. But Nancy is right overall. She doesn't belong in a psyche hospital. She's scared and is crying for help. Sad the psyche doctor doesn't see that.

I had a father with NPD, (undiagnosed, but that man would never go near a doctor willingly), and he committed me alongside a team of psychs to a ward. The ward made my mental health worse, the professionals inside there were bitter, resentful, accusatory and nasty. Being not believed, told you’re crazy day in, day out, and then being told by professionals you’re dreaming up your abuse and your mental health is your own fault is a double combo for a 15 year old. It nearly killed me. Im only here today because I had one person in my court, but if I didn’t , i would’ve killed myself. I don’t blame a young woman who’s been locked up tight without a chance to breathe being told she’s delusional.

as someone with bpd, it's dangerous to continue to push the stereotype that we're all manipulative and persuasive bc it's not true. just bc some portion of people with bpd are like that doesn't mean every person is like that. 10 people can have the same diagnosis and present in 10 different ways. there's no clear cut, definitive set of symptoms that have to be checked off in order to gain a diagnosis. at the end, Dr Charles reminds me of something my own doctor told me: i told him that i was severely depressed and he said that, if someone came to him, who wasn't mentally ill, and had been thru everything i had and said they were depressed, he'd believe them. bc sometimes the things we go thru make us have normal, human reactions that aren't the result of something being medically "wrong".

they left a scalpel in the room of a patient who is a suicide risk lol

Dr, Wheeler asking about going to a psych and being left hanging was an oof. Would you consider a compilation of his scenes that are relevant to his departure from the series?

Poor girl no one would be stable with a mother like that

This is why i never breathed a word to anyone about my mental health struggles until i literally could not hold myself together and had a severe breakdown. My door was literally broken down and i was dragged from my room to be taken to the psych ward. Thankfully, I fought back and was able to run away. Eventually, my family agreed to outpatient care. Psych care is such a disaster that seriously leaves more people traumatized than helped. I am extremely fortunate that my family saw reason and ended up apologizing for what they did.

she could have the odd depression and anxiety moments but she isn't insane, she shouldn't be there

Not quite the same, but I can kinda relate to this story. When my adopted mother found out that my bio mom was diagnosed with bpd, she automatically assumed that my sister and I had it as well (I was 12 and my sis was about 9). She took us to a psychiatrist and convinced her we had bpd and were prescribed pills that we were forced to take. My adopted mom did something like this again when I started having my period and wanted me to get on birth control that "would permanently stop my periods." My pediatrician at the time didn't think that was a good idea for a child, but prescribed birth control to me anyway. Since becoming an adult, I stopped taking the psychotic meds, got married and have stayed married, can hold down a job effortlessly, and keep limited contact with my adoptive mom.

Why would they leave a minor psych patient unattended in a non-psych hospital room? Shouldn’t there have been a staff present to monitor her? Or shouldn’t they have stabilized her condition and moved her to a secure area? In the real world that hospital would be looking at anywhere between $10,000-30,000 in fines alone for violations putting a patient in immediate jeopardy not to mention legal compensation which the family would most certainly be entitled to as long as they can retain council which in this circumstance it sounds like they probably wouldn’t be able to.

dr charles is awesome love him

Back in the day, women were committed to psych wards all the time. If they refused the divorce, they talked back too often, found out about the mistress, etc.

Been the one on the bed with the feeding tube, but my doc kept all of us ED patients on the med unit. The psych unit wouldn’t take eating disorder patients requiring tube feed because it was considered a risk with other patients trying to grab it. Most of the medical team couldn’t handle managing the medical side effects. I’m lucky that I never had to be in a psych unit like that, I know some people who have and it made their anorexia and bulimia worse.

Imagine having someone like Dr. Charles in your life.

Who else wants Dr. Charles as a father figure in their life?😫😭

I’m currently working in the psychiatric department as a part of nursing school. This is actually very real. Psychiatric patients are very interesting, and it’s important to listen to them and try to understand them in a non-judgmental manner. They are human just like all of us. Though some patients you do have to look out for, because they will claim they are “not crazy,” but use it as a means to manipulate staff into thinking they’re not. Of course that’s not always the case, but that’s why it’s always important to listen to patients, use clinical reasoning, etc to give them the best care possible.

I had a not quite similar childhood. Who else would agree that as a young girl when your first and most serious love breaks up with you over the phone nearly a year into your relationship (because of your mother).. you'd probably get depressed and not think straight. Having a homophobic (not related to this incident directly) and racist controlling mother. I did one dumb mistake out of sadness and I get sent away somewhere. One place for 2 weeks, the next place for 2 months. Not a word to my friends. I disappeared to them. She'd put me down and ruined my social and esteem skills. I went through at least 5 different antidepressants over the years. But yet *I* was the reason *she* had to go on a medication? The mental damage is still in me over 20 years later. Support your kids. Realize when you're the problem. Don't just dump them somewhere instead of talking. And recognize which kind of help is right and when. ❤️ to anyone who's had it hard and no one listened.

The system is so broken. It’s so bad and such a disappointment.

Oh lord, when I was a kid my worst nightmare was ending up in a psychiatric ward. I was diagnosed with Autism at a young age and I made the mistake of telling my friend and she told her friend and she told everyone in school and all the kids would say things like I was crazy and belonged in a home somewhere. Or that I was an escapee from a mental hospital. I would have nightmares about being dragged away in a straight jacket.

Wait- 15 year olds can’t normally be diagnosed with BPD, can they? I thought you had to be 18, bc teenage personalities are already unstable.

Charles and Reese were always the two most goated characters in the show. Definition of peep game and lock in

While we’re on the subject of mental health, Dr Wheeler asks Dr Reece is therapy has helped her. In a later episode, Dr. Wheeler throws himself off the hospital roof because he can no longer take the pressures of residency. It’s the first clue that he’s struggling, and I think his plot while small (Dr. Wheeler is a tertiary character) it’s incredibly important and highlights the very real struggle many doctors face.

3:37 Dr. Wheeler 😢

As someone with BPD it can be hard to see the difference between our condition and losing hope. Do you think a psych doctor can the difference? That doctor needs more training.

I wish there was a show with just the two of them

The rhetoric that those with BPD are manipulative is so problematic and also very untrue. Very disappointed to see Dr Charles say that

When she cut herself at the end why is there a scalpel in the room and why is it not locked up something like that should be locked up

Losing hope is not a sign of mental illness. That hit me hard. I spent three years in obscene pain from trying to improve Advanced Yme Disease. I had no hope. It was so brutal and I have trauma from it. I knew i wasnt insane, it wasthe disease making me lose all hope. Its a horrible thing to feel like that even for a moment and mine lasted three years.

This girl is so desperate that I believe her. Especially after she took a staple to her wrist. That’s not normal teenage behavior but they want to put her in a psych hospital off what she did do to herself and she clearly is a danger to herself regardless. Further investigation in such a situation should be made if the mother is bi polar and not a fit parent for her to go back to but she’ll likely just wind up in the system it’s no better there either so it’s a catch 22

Ok so I have been seeing a few comments mentioning being disappointed because apparently “dr Charles said about people with bpd being manipulative. I admit that shows definitely can show very stereotypical versions of mental illness, but i don’t think that’s what’s done here. They did make sure to say “they can” instead of “they are” which immediately shows verbally he wasn’t trying to marginalize, but instead mention a common symptom. This patient had convinced the other doctor she wasn’t crazy and he justifiably just told the other doctor to be careful as they CAN be. It is a common thing in this illness , especially ones who have trouble with abandonment and loneliness. There are some that are manipulative and some that arent as everyone is different. Unfortunately people with mental illnesses tend to be treated different and like nut cases. Im speaking from a family with people with bpd and other mental illness; as I just wanted to share my thoughts.

I relate to the young girl. My mother is bipolar and puts all her frustration out on me and calls me crazy and that i need medication. Because I hear and see things no one else does. Bipolar and Schizophrenia run in the family, but I wasn't diagnosed with any of that. I can't mentally handle stressors and will harm if it's too much and i can't understand. And no one understands me. She threatened to kick me out on the streets because I harmed myself ( due to all her and her husband constant issues) or get me immitted into the hospital instead of comforting me.

As a system with DID who was institutionalized, it was the worst experience of our life. We were trapped, 18 hours a day on the floor, without a bed or table or chair. We had a stained mattress with the itchiest wool blanket overtop it. Nothing to do but watch the cars go by outside our window. The other 6 hours we were stuck in a room with people ranging from folks who had to tried to take their own life, to literal psychopaths (if trapping those that want to die in a room with those willing to kill is a good idea, then we must be stupid). We were told to socialize or do something creative with sheets of paper and crayons (mind you all the patients were all over the age the 14.) We could not see a doctor (even a phycologist) leave unless we hurt ourselves bad enough to need medical attention. Oh and if you did that you get trapped there for another *six* months. You were not allowed to see your parents, at all, for any reason. We were stuck there for two and half months before they needed new room so they gave us freedom. In all, the entire feild of phycology is scam that hasn’t real changed since the 1950s. It’s all guess work and definitions to trick people into thinking they’re are smart and know what their doing.

bruh, why'd she have to cut herself with the scalpel? they were literally like "maybe she isn't mentally ill" and then she goes and does that? not really helping her case🤦

i absolutely LOVE dr. charles

Losing hope is not a sign of mental illness. Ouch.

We need more psychiatrists like Dr Charles

All too possible. This sort of thing has absolutely happened

A friend of mine was committed against her will because her parents and school didn’t like what she was writing in her religion classes. She was questioning things. They labeled her all sorts of mentally ill. She got out and her mom refused to get her treatment for her depression because it “didn’t look good on the family” when she was in there they told everyone it was mono. When she couldn’t get treatment she needed she tried to OD on otc pain relievers and I called her mom who eventually believed that her child maybe did need help and to stop being so religious and weird.

To be fair, crazy doesn't mean wrong. And if the hard evidence isn't physically in the room, being psychotic looks exactly the same as being right. It's incredibly easy for a doctor to assume a patient is mis-reporting critical details due to either manipulative intent or psychosis, and impossible for a patient to prove otherwise, especially from within the mental healthcare system. Getting providers to even acknowledge that a patient might possibly be telling anything resembling the truth, is often physically impossible. There's just nothing you can do, if nobody with the authority to free you from the psych ward, believes a single word out of your mouth. And if you aren't crazy to begin with, spending long enough surrounded by authority figures stripping you of your autonomy at every turn will fix that.

Her cutting herself definitely doesn’t help her case

Don’t make matters worse to get out of a situation

dr wheeler asking if dr reese went to therapy 😩😓

This happened to me, then the head dr came in and released me immediately. Unfortunately thats not always the case.

It is terrifying how easy it is for people to use systems meant to help as a means of control. Parents have too many rights and children not enough. Your child is not a plaything or an object you own and society has to deal with the unadjusted adult that parents and systems have free reign to create. The USA and Somalia are two of the only countries that would not even consider signing a symbolic childs bill of rights. We act as though they are subhuman then suddenly the second they turn 18 they are 100% responsible for their own care when parents are allowed to deny them any and all things as they are owned by the parents. We have guardian ad litems but they are tied to a broken system. A parent can legally send their child away to torture camps where dozens of kids have been killed, hundreds molested and all abused in the name of faith or religion or whatever excuse they want. Those torture centers can shock the kids, starve the kids, torture and psychologically abuse the kids with impunity as long as the parents say its fine. We have popular daytime tal shows that advocate for these abduction and assault camps...its all so gross

This is crazy. Theses disorders need help. Theses aren’t something to be overlooked or anything. It’s crazy. We all need to pay more attention. Theses things for those that aren’t become very traumatized and scared around others. Always look at the others around them like any other case.

I wish Dr Charles was my shrink

Dr. Charles is great. 🥰

I was wrongly committed many times. They said I had Bipolar. I have severe reactions to prescribed medications and brain lesions from chronic migraine. I have been undiagnosed, but that doesn't make up for the 48 hospitalizations, verbal/mental/physical abuse I dealt with from the doctors and other patients. They told me I had borderline because I left a DV situation. Insane.

"She must have grabbed the scalpel from the cart." Because they leave that stuff kicking around in Emerg rooms. That and opiods. Totally believable.

Keep up all the good work you’ve done amazing videos❤😂🎉😅😊!

This made me want to throws hands with that doctor who diagnosed the girl and put here in a place like that. I was in a similar situation only difference is I have D.I.D. and my mind tends to be more like a child.(Which no one takes seriously even tho they see im more immature) I was in a very stressful situation, I had no where to go and the place I was at triggered part of my PTSD which made me hurt myself because I didn't know what to do. The people I was with called the police and I was admitted in a place like that they said "the police caught me trying to hurt myself." When reality one of my alts just wanted us to be happy, we where fighting ourselves then our friends came in and stopped us. We didn't even do any damage to ourselves because we are not suicidal or depressed. Instead of fighting tho we just took the anti depresses and kept a smile on our face, eventually we got out of there in a week and stopped the anti depresses because they effected some of my alters negative. At the time I was sent here, I had a diagnoses for D.I.D. but they just didn't listen. All i need is some kind of support for my PTSD not a week in a place like that. Yes they are safe but they are still extremely traumatizing for someone who is innocent, sane, and suffers from ptsd or separation anxiety.

I get emotional every dam episode of this show

3:46 Isn't that the guy who killed himself in the show?

I too have borderline personality disorder!!! High five

Isn't these doctors talking about the patients/their conditions at the beginning a HUGE HIPAA violation?!

Actually you never put a ryles tube if the patient swallowed acid

1st, also love this channel!! i love this show also. thanks for posting!!

always so quick to call some one crazy and pump them full of medications

Let's be real, NO psych doctors are this sane or reasonable.

This is..wow- 6:05 - Dr. Reese speaks truth lmaoo

If somehow they don't have the budget to do this drama anymore, I hope they turn the series into animation.

My dad many times threaten to get me wrongfully admitted into a mental hospital. Threaten to lie to them, make me looks like I’m mentally I’ll when I’m not. He thinks just cause he antagonizes me and I get fed up means I’m mentally ill. He hates it when I get fed up with his nonsense and entitlement. I mean hello earth to dad if you antagonize someone none stop what you expect them to not get frustrated or fed up? Everyone has limits on how much they can handle. One time I just wasn’t having it and I locked myself in my room and he pretended to call a mental hospital on me to scare me. So pathetic. I knew he was faking it because he used the house phone. He always uses his cell phone. Also checked the house phone and yeah line wasn’t active. Also lucky for me My friends family member who’s a cop told me my dad can’t legally do that to me. Guaranteed. Said to call her if anything. Sorry thought I’d share this here. Thanks for reading feels good to share and get it off my chest

That girl won't stop harming herself? How insane and crazy these patient characters can get.

This makes me so sad

"Losing hope is not a sign of mental illness." This line made me tear up. I've been dealing with chronic low back pain that's been getting progressively worse for the last 5 years. One of my discs recently herniated. I got referred to a neurologist and I'm on a cocktail of painkillers, muscle relaxants, and an anticonvulsant to treat the nerve pain. I've also been dealing with clinical depression for almost half my natural life at this point. It is so hard to keep fighting when every day is just a battle to keep the pain at bay enough to function. I almost don't want to fight anymore, but I have people that need me, so I'm strong for them. I know that God's not done with me yet, and even if I don't understand everything He's doing, I have faith that it's for a good reason.

Thank God I don't know literally anyone living in Michigan or Wisconsin. It's wiped out cuz it never happened. Like the one(s) that betrayed me

Abusive parents using psych hospitals to validate that the kids are the problem and hide their abuse is pretty common, unfortunately.

I’ve been registered nurse 35 years and I had a patient I took care of the actually made me believe they were holding against her will when nothing was wrong with her. Turns out she was mad as a hatter.

Omg if only they believed you like that

Man looking back the signs were all there for Wheeler. He's even reaching out for therapy and Reese didn't catch it, though its not her fault since she was preoccupied here. Just an overall sad situation that could have been avoided if someone caught him before he spiraled

I recognize the girl wasn’t she pregnant on another doctor show or am I mental lol

Dr Wheeler.... iykyk 💔

Yet they went to university and still made a huge mistake

Do they call “borderline personality disorder “ bipolar disorder now? Honestly asking.

Where is the whole episode? Thank you

I wish they could have made the mother make an appearance so we can understand patient daughter!

Did she despair or did she do something desperate so she could stay with Dr Reese?

Being suicidal and committing self-harm commonly land people in psych wards. If you don't want to be in one, don't do those things. Even if she was put in the ward due to false testimony, now that she has made two suicide/self-harm attempts there is now concrete reason to keep her in the ward.

I think Dr. Baker KNEW that this poor kid was not crazy and was trying to gaslight her so she would never be allowed to leave the hospital. It was probably a personal think and Dr. Baker probably knew the mom was crazy and perhaps even agreed with her, or was friends with her. My aunt tried to have me committed to one of these places when I was 12 years old just because I attempted suicide. Dude, if you commit every person who attempts suicide to asylums, then there wouldn't be enough hospitals to put them all in! But my aunt KNEW I wasn't crazy and she wanted to do it out of spite as revenge towards my mom for "daring" divorce my dad, as if she had no right to divorce him and he was right to treat her like crud and she "deserved " to be abused. My aunt probably never wanted me to see anyone on my mom's side of the family again and probably not my doctor or even psychiatrist either if I had one at the time. A few years later, I had depression, anxiety and anger issues. It lasted for eight years from ages fourteen to twenty-two. Fortunately, I got lucky and had a supportive and loving mom, grandparents, brother and cat who would never give up on me, even after I hurt them and wanted them to literally hate me to death, which I didn't mean, as well as a good, competent psychiatrist who had empathy and helped me a lot. Now I am going to turn twenty-six in less than five months and I am doing a letter better. I have a new psychiatrist for nearly three years and he seems like a good person too. Mental health professionals and doctors should ALWAYS have empathy and if they don't and would rather see people locked up just for the sake of being locked up, especially for life,, probably for personal reasons, whether they need it or not, they shouldn't have a license in the first place and whoever gave it to them is probably just or eviler and does the same things or worse. I'm sorry to see that some mental patients are treated more as demonized prisoners who are "not human" and "deserve to die in a mental hospital", even being murdered by mental health doctors who decide that these patients "deserve nothing but death". When some doctors treat mentally struggling people like that, the doctors are the problem and are trying to gaslight the patients into thinking they are evil maniacal bad guys when it is those doctors who are the ones who really pretty much accusing the patients of the things that these doctors themselves are doing. If a mental hospital won't allow any doctors, especially a family doctor or worse, mental health professionals of the mental patients to see them, that means that the mental hospital is doing something illegal, such as murdering patients, deliberately trying to make them permanently untreatable so they will never be allowed to leave, no matter what, /and or never letting them leave and trying to make them think they are permanently hopeless, that they don't want other people to know about except those who are just as evil or worse than they are who will agree with them.

Whatever happen to this girl?

Bonnie is that you?!?!?!

They’re all crazy

I almost went to a psychiatric hospital but I didn’t want to

Won’t sodium hydroxide and hydrochloric acid together just equal salt water?

she looks so much younger then 50

As a foster kids who was thrown into a Facility with a lot of extremely mentally ill kids. I would have done anything to get out of there, including trying to kill myself so I can go to a hospital.

We're is doctor Magnin

why is the patient laying flat in bed while getting food from ngt???😂

She was scared not crazy

I was misdiagnosed as depressed and medicated in a psyche ward, i got worse on the meds so they upped the dose until i tried to kill myself then they discharged me to cover it up, I have bipolar 2 once im now on the right meds and work in medicine Oh and i would stab myself to keep myself in a hospital over a psyche ward any day

huh, that's the girl from 2012. she was the little girl. almost didnt recognize her lol

did she ever get out?