Patreon EXCLUSIVE | Blank Canvas (Part 2) feat. Akademiks & Ian | The Joe Budden Podcast 

Ian is like the white Joe Budden. Loves to hear himself talk and in their own mind they are never wrong 😂

Ish lost his mind on this one hahahahahha

It's strange the way flip just left. Flip isn't use to having a serious conversation at all. 😂😂

Cooking breakfast and listening to the JBP in the background. Great morning.

Joe can’t accept being wrong 😂 and I see why him and Ian align

Business & Tech pod wars needs to be a new segment. I can listen to this shit all day!

Not gonna lie, never let Ian back on the mic again.

Dam it takes Ian to give the culture knowledge of worth! truly thanks Ian for your self confidence your installing within the culture... for real

Ian: (talking about Shiggy) "a nobody" 1:20:20......Ian (talking about Shiggy "I didn't call him a nobody): 1:20:36

YESSS I WASNT EXPECTING THIS JUST MADE MY DAY EVEN BETTER

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I wonder what a episode with Flip and AK would be like........

I know white dude prolly smart as hell but he sounded lost as hell in this discussion lmao

Ish killed this whole episode. Joe can never admit when he is wrong and it is infuriating. Lol.

I cant believe Joe and Ian argued against the importance of name recognition for a whole hour. This was wild

Keep keep Ian away from the mic at all cost. Dude is a certified know it all

Hearing them trying to explain common sense stuff to Joe is hilarious. I started listening to the Pod because of his name and I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one

Ian acts like he knows everything. He was wrong a couple of times and refused to even listen. He listens like Joe does, which is NEVER!! Lmao!! Love it!

Ish totally was correct though on the "starting point" conversation. And Parks summarized it well by saying "we often don't realize our own privileges".

I see why Joe & Ian get along together 😂😂😂

ISH IS THE JBP MVP!!!! Bro always giving “muffins” with facts and reality

Joe and Ian pretending Joe didn’t have a head start compared to any random person is delusional

Ian and Joe are totally missing the fact there’s a million failed Timmy Green podcasts - the long tail. The hit rate as a celebrity with a ready made audience is going to be much higher. You can’t point to the handful of Timmy’s who make it as equitable to Joes start.

Ian & Joe are wilding. Joe absolutely had a better launch pad. He just happens to be a star wherever he goes where another artist would not achieve the same success as him. That's it. Me just admiring his raps made me check out whatever else he had to say. I stayed because I liked what and how he said it. Not everyone has THAT talent no matter how much they've thrived in another field.

Me: “I really enjoyed my meal.” Ian: “YOU’RE WRONG…YOU’RE WRONG.”

Anybody speaks: Ian: “You’re wrong”

This level of stubbornness from Joe and Ian is hilarious!

Ian is the most disingenuous arguer. Just says whatever he feels will win him the argument. Lol

Damn, Joe came off like a spoiled kid in that argument 😂. Bro your name as Joe Budden definitely helped push this shit out.

I get why IAN and Joe in business cause they swear they know everything and aren’t wrong about anything lol

Ian and Joe literally hear one thing and instantly have to rebuttal. Shit weird, yet funny

Joe and Ian are speaking from a place of privilege

I’m glad Ish made that full circle moment with the sharing of info cause boy I was screaming for someone to shine the light on that dude.

If you're into business and wanted gems this was the episode‼️‼️‼️ great conversation guys

Ian and Joe are really made for each other, if I see two podcast one with joe vs the other person I've never heard of I'm clicking on joe . How tf can you ever argue that

Ian has the same mindset as Joe that’s wilddddd .. They prolli agree on everything 😂😂

I do wish episodes like this had more structure. Had they not cut Ak off for the first 20 minutes and let him explain the $100million kick deal properly could have been a conduit to an even better episode.

Ian n Joe had me yelling at my TV 😂 a name gets u to ur destination faster than talent. Unless the talented individual has someone that can make shit move for their career in their family or a friend that got connections, or something like that, tht talented person gotta work his ass off for that first 15 people to even press play or stop scrolling pass their shit. A name, whether ur hated or not, will always get u eyeballs. U couldve been did some real evil in this world, if ur actions got u mainstream press & media coverage, u will get eyeballs to look at what u doin cz humans r curious to know what known people got goin on

Flip deserves more credit. He made me think Ian was faaaar more entertaining and digestible. Also hearing Ian and Joe argue against previous points are crazy lol. Also also, debating, conversation and arguing just to get your point across are different and all three are happening here depending on the person. Ian the whole episode: You're wrong, you are wrong!!" no one is THAT wrong😂

I see why Rory and Mal didn’t trust Ian specially in combination with Joe😂People who think they smarter than the rest of the room usually try to take advantage and camouflage it with tactics the public will perceive as justifiable

Y’all the GOATS for this pt 2 🙌🏽🐐

Ian ruined this episode. Keep him off camera.

Ian not letting the guys get a statement in is crazy 😂 stay behind the scenes lol jk

The fact that ice had a podcast prior to being on this one proves that name and recognition plays a major part not just talent.

Saying the dude that made pump it up has the same starting point as Timmy next door is fucking crazy 💀

That part one cliff hanger had me and my girl on the edge of our seats lmao

Ian giving gatekeeper vibes , keep this dude out off the camera!!

I think one of the most interesting aspects of broadcasting/podcasting/media these days is the willingness of the ones behind the mic to discuss the business behind it. That was unheard of several years ago. Good convo here. 🔥

This is probably the best conversationI've heard in a long time! i love these break downs. I don't even comment in youtube videos but this is great!

Joe and Ian are living in a dream world they make up as they go they no different then the

Ian… no more camera time for you… Another episode where Ish is not understood and I don’t know how they keep missing it!

Ian mad annoying. Whew. Please don’t ever, join again. How Ish didn’t just wanna walk off, is beyond me lol

OMG~ I can't believe this conversation! This guy Ian...wow! I'm used to Joe not wanting to be wrong. It's who he is. But wow~ there is two of these in one work setting? Has to be extremely stressful. Your wrong! Your wrong! Without even hearing what the complete statement is? That's crazy!

Ish cracked muffins entire time. Joe and Ian y’all are fuckin nuts

My mom came in and heard me watching this pod not knowing what it is at all and when I told her “it’s joe budden’s podcast” that immediately peaked her interest. She didn’t even recognize his face, she just remembered his name. Whether this pod was good, bad, popular, or unpopular, that type of interaction doesn’t change. That right there just proves Joe’s “starting point” take to be completely wrong. That name recognition, no matter how long it takes, changes the trajectory of your content.

Also, another clear thing from this discussion is Akademiks STILL does not know how valuable he is. He is not only the voice for many in the culture, most of us get our 'news' from his streams. He is one of one. .He knows that, but he REALLY doesn't know fully.

Ian's just there to disagree. Plus a white man telling people what moves the culture is fucking hilarious 😂

Flip couldn't keep up with the nerd tallk so joe sent him home 😂

Name of this episode should have been "Starting Point" Shoutout to the JBN & the JBP for providing us with the during the vacation. If you haven't already sign up for the patreon, and get access to these episodes months in advance!

lmao ian is so condesending and thinks hes always right

Has Ian or Joe ever heard someone else’s point and said “good point, you’re right”

Ian and Joe crazy as hell with the starting point conversation, king semantics lol

Ian is definitely stealing joes money 😂😂😂

Ish is more right than he’s ever been. Name recognition gives you a much stronger start than being a nobody

Joe and Ian are so fueled by their experiences they can’t make sense of other ones or something. I also think the messenger is an enormous factor, they not hearing this from Ice and Parks but Elon or Jay could say it

Ish is the only real business man in this conversation.

Ian and Joe are the same person, always right

Props to ish, ice and AK, they pushed back with common sense...

I want the crew to let Ice talk without constantly over talking him, but he gotta demand the floor when trying to speak!

Now this is poding! More of these conversations please 🙏

Dropping the Pt 2 on a Monday that’s love 🫶🏾

Ian gave out some game and it went over a lot of people’s heads. Especially when he talked about equity and allowing corporations to determine your value. They’ve got us undercutting each other chasing the bag and we’re leveraging our power to do it. There’s power in unity and collective bargaining or at least having a uniform minimum standard.

No wonder Ian is Joes manager lol mans will not budge on his opinion

Ish is 100% right about the start points

Once again, salute Ish. Joe and his guy sound like privileged people. Seriously

Save yourself the listen. Ish/Ak: Valid point Ian: No you’re wrong Joe: *agrees with Ian*

*I really didn't want to acknowledge it, but after rewatching Ian is a bit brash and off putting, NOTHING HE SAID WAS WRONG, it's just how it's delivered*

Ever since Ian eluded to getting legged i really dont be giving a damn about what he got to say 😂😂😂

Part 2 LFG! 👏🏾 that cliff hanger on part one was wild. Great poddin 🔥

All this talk about equity reminding me of that Rory & Mal dispute 😂

so basically what now is saying is Christian Combs(diddy son) has the same starting point as some random soundcloud kid from idaho😂😂

Ak on the JBP with Ian. This really is a legendary podcast

100 million is not enough to take over the market XQC got almost 100 million from kick alone and he not even the biggest name in streaming

The hate is real. Ish is running laps around this whole cast and yet all they seem to do is cut him off to try and stop his shine because they can’t take the laps he’s running around them. Ish needs his own show.

Joe making all the other podcasts look like rookies. Keep ‘‘em Coming. got 2 pods today one on patroon and one on youtube.

Is this the same pod that kicked off Roy and Mal for wanting equity? Damn could’ve fooled me

This was one of the most productive conversation I've ever heard. We won't always agree. But everyone got to speak their peice.

Leave Ian behind the camera

This is a master class!! I appreciate this one!!

Very enlightening discussion, I need a part 3

Thank You JBP for the Business Lessons in these Two Pods(P1+P2)....IAN + ISH + JOE + ICE should be its own BIZ Channel on the JBN....If Y'all Listening Game is Being Given for Free99....👑💰🙋🏾🔥😎🌏

They left us on a cliffhanger at the end of the last video with Ian jumping on the mic like he’s about to say shit. But he came on so smug and patronising, while stating the obvious 😂

Damn how that convo go over everybody but Joe and Ian’s head? That’s insane

Y’all might need to not let Ian back on lol 😂

Damn Ian fumbled

Joe left us on a cliff hanger and dropped more heat on vacay. 🔥🔥

That equity talk was real funny considering that nobody on the joe Budden podcast got equity and the two people that fought for it got dropped. Real funny Ian

I don’t think Ian even understood what the conversation was about. A lot of times he would jump out and argue a point that had almost nothing to do with what was said prior. The conversation kept shifting off center bcuz he wouldn’t just take a breath and listen

Ian and Joe were made for each other

32:04 Ish thank you cause you spoke nothing but truth. Of course the Jewish guy would disagree. He can’t relate and refuse to attempt to understand what you said but you spoke only facts. Thank you sir! ✊🏾