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In this Patreon exclusive episode, the dudecast begins by talking about anniversaries and engagement rings before turning to a debate on entrepreneurship in society today and moving forward. The JBP then discusses gender fluidity and if it should be taught in schools at a young age, if Drake is downplaying ‘This Is America’ and its significance, Ish’s plans to write a book, NFL running backs are upset at not getting paid, + more!
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@darnell9806
@darnell9806 4 месяца назад
Joe’s lack of formal education shows a lot when he’s trying to have certain conversations. The entrepreneur talk is a shining example of that.
@articledon4880
@articledon4880 4 месяца назад
what did he say for example?
@williambutler1955
@williambutler1955 4 месяца назад
@@articledon4880finish watching.
@darnell9806
@darnell9806 4 месяца назад
@@articledon4880 it’s just the way overall how he talks about real world things that there seems to be a lack of critical thinking that comes with even just a grade school education. To be fair it could also just be that he’s been in the entertainment industry his whole adult life so there’s just a disconnect there. He didn’t even understand what toll booths are for and talked about being happy the workers don’t have those jobs anymore without considering the economic impact of a large group of people losing their jobs. But it could just be his elitism showing cause that makes him sound like one of those “learn to code” people
@dashingnurse5098
@dashingnurse5098 4 месяца назад
FACTSSSSS
@oladeebiazazi4538
@oladeebiazazi4538 4 месяца назад
@@darnell9806 I agree with everything you’re saying, why do you think people think learning how to code is the answer
@hasan3step570
@hasan3step570 4 месяца назад
Joe missed the point that most companies need workers, laborers, staff. So if everybody is an entrepreneur then there will be people who are doing labor and simultaneously running their own business. That will never work.
@tuubu9115
@tuubu9115 4 месяца назад
Frfr. Look how many businesses Elon an mark cuban failed at before they finally succeeded. Ad they came from wealth but still failed I hate all theses RU-vidrs acting like bosses. I bet If Joe get demonetized on RU-vid hell cut half his staff
@doms5755
@doms5755 4 месяца назад
True. Basic economics, bro is tweaking
@Noooooooo15451
@Noooooooo15451 4 месяца назад
He’s out of touch with America at large.
@vatt3436
@vatt3436 4 месяца назад
⁠@@EARiotyou should look up a little thing called “mass production” which allows you to even have the phone that you used to type that leftist bullshit
@greggyamisial4047
@greggyamisial4047 4 месяца назад
You can contract work. As an entrepreneur you can contract your work so the only way doesn't have to be that way.
@TrellYGSH
@TrellYGSH 4 месяца назад
The fact that This is America was this much of a debate is wild. The message in the song was clear as day. How someone interprets something can sometimes be irrelevant to the point that is being made. This is an example.
@VeraciousMind
@VeraciousMind 4 месяца назад
“This is America” was 🔥
@saucyfaces
@saucyfaces 4 месяца назад
Joe is so out of touch to not understand this concept. Ish is absolutely right.
@tuubu9115
@tuubu9115 4 месяца назад
This is why I hate RU-vidrs because Joe is technically an employee of RU-vid and patreon because they give him a 1099 form at the beginning of each year. RU-vidrs swear they bosses but they really employees. I bet if Joe lose his monetization on RU-vid he'll go back to doing shows in parks living room
@saucyfaces
@saucyfaces 4 месяца назад
@@tuubu9115 I totally agree.
@davidsimmonds4387
@davidsimmonds4387 4 месяца назад
That's the best way to have a debate .....
@edwardsbv1
@edwardsbv1 4 месяца назад
It's because he didn't go to college and take economics 1 and 2 lol
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX
@BaldwinFanonGarveyTureShakurX 4 месяца назад
Joe is not wrong. It's just that most ppl in the U.S. are "educated" to be cogs so that's all they know. An entrepreneurial based system is best for a free society for all. To understand the real U.S., not the BS they feed you, you'd have to know centuries of European history. What we have now is overpopulation, and a majority of that population in indefinite serfdom and peonage slavery. Again, the majority have zero idea what any of that means but will argue with the ppl who do because they were trained to defend the system.
@troytesoro7491
@troytesoro7491 4 месяца назад
Ish was basically trying to say if everyone has a million dollars, it’s not a million dollars anymore. There needs to be poor for rich to exist as is laborers for a company to thrive. The core point that ish cleverly addressed is that in his fear, that line of distinguishing class is expanding faster then the roles are able to fill. Rich are getting richer and the poor are getting more poor and that shows in the housing market. Inflation 😮
@xkells757
@xkells757 4 месяца назад
Society absolutely needs employees.
@SUPERZAYAN1
@SUPERZAYAN1 4 месяца назад
Small thinking
@frostbaby6837
@frostbaby6837 4 месяца назад
Ugh shid I'm at work right damn now thinking bout entrepreneurship
@reyblanco_
@reyblanco_ 4 месяца назад
​@@SUPERZAYAN1realistically it's not. Service jobs are necessary
@adeadewale1031
@adeadewale1031 4 месяца назад
Not for mediocre jobs. Ai will replace those jobs. People forget that 9-5 / school was a result of Henry ford needing more workers . Our great great grandfather were farmers, locksmiths, in the army, etc. these were entrepreneurial jobs and most importantly they were jobs which needed u to develop skills
@xkells757
@xkells757 4 месяца назад
AI taking over the world is in itself a small minded concept. It’s limited by hardware integration. For example, our entire planet’s manufacturing is built on machines requiring humans. If you think we can rebuild the entire global infrastructure for AI integration you are on drugs.
@JerseySinCMD
@JerseySinCMD 4 месяца назад
Joe sounded crazy with that entrepreneur segment. No way companies would last without workers. Who will fix the a.i when it goes down 😂 Joe
@reyblanco_
@reyblanco_ 4 месяца назад
ai isn't even really what people think it is. They think it is an actual artifact intelligence when it isn't. We haven't achieved singularity.
@krissentiacharlery8154
@krissentiacharlery8154 3 месяца назад
Right? Who will teach the kids at school?
@brandonstanley739
@brandonstanley739 3 месяца назад
The first hour in eight minutes shows nothing but pure, masculine, energy, honesty, vulnerability, respect, care, and a loving friendship. This is rare. This is Raw. This is much needed in the world, especially amongst men, each one of them receive their constructive criticism because they knew it came from a respectful loving place.
@BigdadiSixty9GTC
@BigdadiSixty9GTC 4 месяца назад
Joe is the type to argue, im not talking about what im wrong about, im only talking about what im right about or slightly right about 😂
@QueXopa79
@QueXopa79 4 месяца назад
Facts
@veligotti
@veligotti 4 месяца назад
We need a Parks appreciation day on the JBP he’s probably one of the most logical thinkers that says shit that nobody’s thinking
@aaronc3396
@aaronc3396 4 месяца назад
No. And I hate his adlibs get off his d 🤡
@dashingnurse5098
@dashingnurse5098 4 месяца назад
I Agree.
@AceLiberachi7
@AceLiberachi7 4 месяца назад
Agreed
@Preston_TheDragon
@Preston_TheDragon 4 месяца назад
Parks definitely needs a spot on that couch. Move Ice to where parks be at 😂
@veligotti
@veligotti 4 месяца назад
@@Preston_TheDragon 🤝🏾 agreed fam
@dashingnurse5098
@dashingnurse5098 4 месяца назад
Thank You Parks for providing ISH with the wise counsel 🙏 regarding using his own voice as well as the rationale 👋👋👋
@racheller8753
@racheller8753 4 месяца назад
A few minutes later they all started using that voice ! Lol! ✌🏾✌🏽✌🏼💫
@ShadowInkfam
@ShadowInkfam 4 месяца назад
Agreed
@jorgevendinha4646
@jorgevendinha4646 4 месяца назад
ice energy been getting cornier as time goes by
@jamarijackson7611
@jamarijackson7611 4 месяца назад
Bro seriously he act like a female
@TheSpitzTvNetwork
@TheSpitzTvNetwork 4 месяца назад
Shout out to all JBP Fam 🎉🎉
@gabrielskinner1237
@gabrielskinner1237 4 месяца назад
I love how Ish is trying to explain a simple Economics concept and Joe can't even begin to understand it
@coldweathermusicgroup5578
@coldweathermusicgroup5578 5 дней назад
Because it's bullshit that was passed down by very evil human beings. Stay on that side tho we good.
@williambutler1955
@williambutler1955 4 месяца назад
Wolves don’t mess with lions. “What do you call Joe” A cheetah. 😂😂😂😂😂
@dashingnurse5098
@dashingnurse5098 4 месяца назад
"Bob Cat"🤭
@Mrsptoyou
@Mrsptoyou 4 месяца назад
You guys gel so well. Joe used to come off too strong, now we see a softer side of him. More jokes all around. Keep it going y’all. Love to see it
@luvzzzz246
@luvzzzz246 4 месяца назад
Diff girl, no drugs, friends, older folks, learned his lesson, better lighting, more money, etc etc. Changes 🎶
@Frija_the_goddess
@Frija_the_goddess 4 месяца назад
40 min in and I can verify that what ish is saying is correct. I studied health education and economics in college and read books about depopulation because we are consuming too many resources too fast and about the kids and birth control. The US is a big business
@1B2B-ReyA
@1B2B-ReyA 4 месяца назад
Ish is right. Joe example about being happy tech is taking jobs is wild. The bagging groceries use to be for young kids. Now the kids have nothing to do for money except crime. We're mining the earth for resources to create tech. The biggest problem is people don't have a skill anymore, thats why the stimulus checks was like gold to so many people. Not understanding how much it added to the deficit.
@aodigital9421
@aodigital9421 4 месяца назад
You just told everyone just exactly how uneducated you really are. Just because you read books made from the same people who run the education systems who all share the same depopulation ideology. You flaunt “booksmarts” but lack any other intelligence to have the foresight to see it’s a nefarious agenda being pushed. Earth is way more than sufficient to handle the current population. Elon Musk concurs.
@oladeebiazazi4538
@oladeebiazazi4538 4 месяца назад
That’s a faxx my cousin told me the same thing he’s in public health
@Frija_the_goddess
@Frija_the_goddess 4 месяца назад
@@oladeebiazazi4538 yep, same. Do you know that hospitals charge for using cups and ice and every single thing for a patient. I read that one hospital charge $600 for a cup of ice. It’s wicked out here and it’s actually depressing if you think about it too much as a regular civilian
@oladeebiazazi4538
@oladeebiazazi4538 4 месяца назад
@@Frija_the_goddess Wow, that’s insane!
@terezrel3619
@terezrel3619 4 месяца назад
I hate when Joe won’t let a topic go, they’ll move on to the next topic and he’ll keep finding ways to go back because he lost the argument 🤦🏿‍♂️
@lakishajohnson3503
@lakishajohnson3503 4 месяца назад
I'm with Joe and Parks on the "This is America " debate. That shyt hard and still said so much without saying nothing. The way it wad put together,production, video was overall DOPE!!!. REGARDLESS IF IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A DRAKE DISS...
@randywave7
@randywave7 4 месяца назад
I like pods like this. ISH for MVP..
@ra_solutions_
@ra_solutions_ 4 месяца назад
Shouts to Joes book, been in my bookshelf since 06’. A lot of more current tracks are missing. PT.2??? IAN🗣️🗣️🗣️
@We_Undivided
@We_Undivided 4 месяца назад
My all time favorite rapper. And I've never heard of this. Is it a gem for real? I need to find one
@rel_4real
@rel_4real 4 месяца назад
I really enjoy the pods where it’s just some real mature talk. Yeah, the jokes are cool but I’m always looking to learn as well.
@davidmfula8366
@davidmfula8366 4 месяца назад
I've literally put all other Pods on pause cos of these drops, damn! We are eating good this Christmas.
@C_Emilio757
@C_Emilio757 4 месяца назад
Consistency over everything 💯
@darnell9806
@darnell9806 4 месяца назад
Ice was wrong about the car assembly industry. It didn’t go away. They moved from Detroit where they would have to pay American citizens a livable wage and took their plants to places like Mexico where they can pay workers less. Yes automation helped with efficiency but they still need plant workers they just went where they can get them cheaper
@lifestyleoffever228
@lifestyleoffever228 4 месяца назад
I believe his point was to highlight the difference in how Detroit looked while the industry was there versus how it looked when it left. He also literally said they left because they had to pay them a livable wage.
@goldie20lw
@goldie20lw 3 месяца назад
His point was the negative impact it had on the city, not that the industry completely disappeared lol
@tonysosa751
@tonysosa751 4 месяца назад
This is America was & is fire lol . Wild takes
@easymoney9851
@easymoney9851 4 месяца назад
Nah that shit trash, I agree with ice
@veligotti
@veligotti 4 месяца назад
Joe a legend for these patreons back to back this is the thing about being part of the brokies we still get that content shout out to the patronees y’all paid so that we could watch 🫡
@staymadloser7754
@staymadloser7754 4 месяца назад
You take those kneepads off?
@TREDESHAUN
@TREDESHAUN 4 месяца назад
5$ should not hurt that bad 😂
@gwendolyn1694
@gwendolyn1694 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂 not “y’all paid so we can watch”. We thank y’all!!!
@UP4JULY
@UP4JULY 4 месяца назад
It’s just a marketing strategy, there is no need to suck him off and call him a legend😂😂 wait till you found what Black Friday is 📈 Just a Q4 close out 📉
@justadude1477
@justadude1477 4 месяца назад
@@TREDESHAUN paying for some niggas Only fans is crazy lol 😂
@dons.6983
@dons.6983 4 месяца назад
Happy Anniversary Joe!!
@KingNapz
@KingNapz 4 месяца назад
Ice has the musical taste of a teenager. 😂
@hopes_dreams
@hopes_dreams 4 месяца назад
Like he just way too mature for some of these music takes
@faithdobson3983
@faithdobson3983 4 месяца назад
This episode was so good!!!
@rgakm3211
@rgakm3211 4 месяца назад
Thank you Ish, in East Flatbush they are building homes for $1m or more. Very few people that currently live here can afford that.
@pootiehaze6466
@pootiehaze6466 4 месяца назад
Bro CTown takes me back to the early 90s back in Brooklyn 😂, Didn't realize that they still exist 🔥🔥
@rmxchvlet
@rmxchvlet 4 месяца назад
I’m glad that you took my advice and got rid of the problem.
@BenjBenj3xs
@BenjBenj3xs 4 месяца назад
This is America by Childish Gambino is by far not a trash song. Ice just doesn’t like listening to anything that does not promote black on black crime or ratchet women in the streets. 😂 it’s ok ice
@JaeAR20
@JaeAR20 4 месяца назад
I’ve been getting to these pods back to back to back. Somebody doing they job lol
@DJ_Williams936
@DJ_Williams936 4 месяца назад
Flip my man yo! He definitely makes the pod fun! Bc when they hit him the awkward questions he get to stuttering and his facial expressions 🤣😂🤣😂
@mrervb
@mrervb 4 месяца назад
The ring question had me cracking up.
@JayyandAbby
@JayyandAbby 4 месяца назад
SEE THIS IS WHY I NEED A MIC ON THIS PODCAST!!!
@mediaupdate9742
@mediaupdate9742 4 месяца назад
Overwhelmed with so many pod drops
@vancethaxton8583
@vancethaxton8583 4 месяца назад
The song goes with the video. That's why the lyrics sound like how they do. For visual pauses.
@TheMouthSoap
@TheMouthSoap 4 месяца назад
Y’all going to raise y’all’s blood pressure with the pseudo courtroom debates 😂 knew Joe wasn’t going to let the This Is America debate go
@mikereyes298
@mikereyes298 4 месяца назад
😂😂😂 why ish being so secretive when asked a question , when he the let me ask you a question guy lol
@usthefolksmusic
@usthefolksmusic 4 месяца назад
Extremely mature pod. Enjoyed the financial talk; the segment on Drake/ Gambino; trans teachers and Ice's arguments 😂
@fughetabowdit1494
@fughetabowdit1494 4 месяца назад
Ices finite resources take was spot on. Ish said what I was too. Ice just added to the point in a really important way. Great and necessary convo
@Peopleofthesun386
@Peopleofthesun386 4 месяца назад
Ish is wrong there is not scientist saying we have more water now and overpopulation is not about land space is about resources
@Tails-ec5ft
@Tails-ec5ft 4 месяца назад
Love the mature podcast 👌🏽
@VisionItTv
@VisionItTv 4 месяца назад
The i went to the precinct joke had me cracking up lol
@dwightquillen8192
@dwightquillen8192 4 месяца назад
1:49:00 the funniest part flip be knowing what he doing 🤣🤣🤣🤣 When ice mad that shit be the funniest
@kevindavis8421
@kevindavis8421 2 месяца назад
Man that nigga said “ we got em”. He couldn’t let that slide lmaooo perfect timing
@kali4good
@kali4good 4 месяца назад
Im am beyond glad that the segment with the nonbinary teacher turned into a convo about how every group compares themselves to black discrimination. That teacher pissed me off the second he equated his imaginary struggle to black ppl 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@ariesramgaming
@ariesramgaming 3 месяца назад
I’m 29 and moving from Jersey to Florida about four years ago I was mad confused at the whole separate bagger thing
@anansison7237
@anansison7237 4 месяца назад
Joe not thinking about all the "employees he sees every day. Fast food, factories, Amazon delivery, Starbucks, gas stations
@THXKXNG
@THXKXNG 4 месяца назад
On the college topic *Ish* is speaking to “over-saturation” of the market. Too many sellers, not enough buyers. There needs to be a good balance to stop the loss of jobs & product value.
@rbarochin1
@rbarochin1 4 месяца назад
Newark boys got Joe on the This is America topic
@thegaspoweredstick
@thegaspoweredstick 4 месяца назад
Great topic and points by ish
@nykkinykk
@nykkinykk 4 месяца назад
28:30 grocery stores in the south specifically Publix have baggers that job is still live and well intact
@digg3627
@digg3627 4 месяца назад
I always explain the voice thing an how we sound to our self vs to other ppl all the time
@therealmojotv
@therealmojotv 4 месяца назад
Joe not understanding the entrepreneur convo was aggravating the hell out of me!!!
@BenjBenj3xs
@BenjBenj3xs 4 месяца назад
This pod was good as hell. Shi had me talkin to my phone lmao
@YourFavMusician
@YourFavMusician 4 месяца назад
31:34 this is the sick sh!t I been telling people about 🤦🏽‍♂️😂😂😂 glad I ain’t the only one
@TGKay
@TGKay 4 месяца назад
This Is America was 🔥🔥🔥 though 😂
@aurileeray
@aurileeray 4 месяца назад
If everybody was an Entrepreneur we would go back to Bartering Products & Services. Trading..
@Karaleese
@Karaleese 4 месяца назад
It’s so funny when Ice get in his arguing bag
@pat22nasty
@pat22nasty 4 месяца назад
“IDC WHAT ISH DO!!!” Lmaoo
@kristain52
@kristain52 4 месяца назад
Ish’s laugh will have you dying just because 😂
@scubasteve1046
@scubasteve1046 4 месяца назад
The last 20 seconds of the 2hr 45min mark.. that’s art!💀😂💀😂 N once upon a time Joe would say some wild shit 💀.. make you look at your phone. No bleeps in the vicinity of the pod 💯
@qazar444
@qazar444 4 месяца назад
Flip is funny. He rolls with whoever is making the better point. Whether it’s right or wrong. 🤷🏽‍♂️😆😆😆
@tokyorick79
@tokyorick79 3 месяца назад
For anyone using the air tags, while they are very useful, there is a video on RU-vid on how to remove the speaker from the AirTag and it still be operational. I have one like that on my motorcycle. So while you maybe able to see that an AirTag that’s not yours maybe on your car or something, if that speaker isn’t in it you may have trouble finding, stay safe.
@SHIFT_GAWD
@SHIFT_GAWD 4 месяца назад
Ice be emotional saying I don't care lol
@angeloalexandre8949
@angeloalexandre8949 4 месяца назад
Lmfaoooo nah getting the f word off with the bleeps be killing me 2:15
@Browneye475
@Browneye475 4 месяца назад
Ice is a certified goofy
@anthonybates8568
@anthonybates8568 4 месяца назад
Talk HEAVY Ish✊🏿
@chefjared1617
@chefjared1617 4 месяца назад
01:44:00 go listen to what ice said. Remember in a later episode when he got mad when Ish said he listen to that kind of music 24/7?
@iamroyalty772
@iamroyalty772 4 месяца назад
I’m here for it all 🎉
@butta1193
@butta1193 4 месяца назад
Travel point talk was elite
@JC-ie9yi
@JC-ie9yi 4 месяца назад
Joe works like no other. Good sh** JBP!
@AmaruP89
@AmaruP89 4 месяца назад
I’m glad the let ish get into that topic today!!
@kennardray
@kennardray 4 месяца назад
Scale. Everyone can’t make, package, ship, sell AND profit off their own box of cereal every morning. That takes a work force(s) on multiple levels.
@jiggy9456
@jiggy9456 4 месяца назад
Got damn this was a good Pod fellas.
@corymc1x654
@corymc1x654 4 месяца назад
Watching ice put that left blinker on is priceless
@LemonPepperStepper
@LemonPepperStepper 4 месяца назад
I hate when people who never went to college say college is useless….i would love to see them hire a lawyer, doctor or accountant whos not college educated 😂😂y’all want engineers building bridges and skyscrapers without degrees lol
@bestevery3891
@bestevery3891 4 месяца назад
Facts!!!!!!!
@Classikh
@Classikh 4 месяца назад
24:40 - Joe calling himself “ground level” with that water side view behind him is hilarious 🤣
@rainbowmoon73
@rainbowmoon73 4 месяца назад
Yes!❤
@reyblanco_
@reyblanco_ 4 месяца назад
When Flip don't talk this podcast is golden!!
@rayray1052
@rayray1052 4 месяца назад
Facts. All he does is puppet Joe lol
@4evergr8tful
@4evergr8tful 3 месяца назад
The pitchers mound is actually 60ft 6in from home plate
@poeticthoughts06
@poeticthoughts06 4 месяца назад
Ish ...i would 100% buy your book if you narrated it
@mrmakemsayoow4722
@mrmakemsayoow4722 4 месяца назад
The greatest show on earth. Hell, the only show on earth 💁🏽‍♂️ 0:26
@yardflexgamingtv
@yardflexgamingtv 4 месяца назад
This is why I started to watch this podcast…
@CareerDropout.
@CareerDropout. 4 месяца назад
LOL waiting for mega church RICO's was the most hilarious statement of this episode
@blakseed
@blakseed 4 месяца назад
I mess with Ice, but as far as his aggressive takes on what he cares and doesn't care about, it reminds me of my 5 year old cousin running around, loud as hell, letting everyone know how much he doesn't care about your nerves.
@pat22nasty
@pat22nasty 4 месяца назад
Well, maybe he doesn’t care . LOL
@chinlawson9530
@chinlawson9530 4 месяца назад
With the audio book conversation, I downloaded Raekwon's book and was very disappointed that it wasn't him reading it..
@jabartuzo-smith6314
@jabartuzo-smith6314 4 месяца назад
That Donald Glover song was fire and impactful idk what these dudes talking about at all.
@JP-bf4zf
@JP-bf4zf 4 месяца назад
Ish for president.. dope conversation
@gordonshumway6128
@gordonshumway6128 4 месяца назад
They all lied. Not one of them would be comfortable with that teacher in a classroom with their child 8 hours a day for an entire year.
@soundshape6496
@soundshape6496 4 месяца назад
Ish’s laugh between 6:10 & 6:20… single HAs into the mic that sound like lasers
@CliftonLT
@CliftonLT 4 месяца назад
"Not even if it's Victor's?" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Parks is 1 of my favorite podcasters!
@macmarksman6
@macmarksman6 4 месяца назад
“So the running back is the one that run the ball right?” Lmaoooo 🤣 Thats a crazy question from a grown man
@mr.mr.4772
@mr.mr.4772 4 месяца назад
This was always my argument with Dame’s “BOSS” conversation on the Breakfast Club. Everybody can’t be a boss, we need workers.
@MrJayBee420
@MrJayBee420 4 месяца назад
I ain't gna lie, the JDP been dropping so much content, I'm actually behind in episodes. No other podcast gets my attention until I finish all the new content. No Brilliant Idiots, no MDWOG, no DrinkChamps. Only It Is What It Is and that's sports 😂
@amgaku
@amgaku 4 месяца назад
9:10 Classic unison! 🤣
@nomadgarden8017
@nomadgarden8017 4 месяца назад
Played This Is America on the way home from work.
@hopes_dreams
@hopes_dreams 4 месяца назад
Ice having so much push back for any type of positivity is mad weird. Like damn bro you really hate positivity huh?
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