I will never EVER get married. Never met a girl who made me hang to hang around, but if a unicorn turned up, I still wouldn't even consider signing government contracts over it. If she insisted, alarm bell would ring and I'd flush her whatever my heart says. Women collectively fucked men over, and they can deal with this brave new world of disenfranchised men. I have no sympathy to extend to them. Too high a percentage of similar behaviors to brush this off as a "not all women" excuse.
Save it for what? To keep things going exactly how they are already (progressively getting worse)? How would we save it anyway? Think you can tell women what to do, or do you think women will do what they always have, and think immediately and solely of their own self interests. If you want to know why things worked before, the shortest, simplified answer I can give, is that our ancestors knew what was up, that women are basically overgrown children, and we controlled them accordingly as second class citizens. Women are part of the voting system, and even have privileges over us...the genie is not going back into the bottle, we're done. Women don't have race loyalty anyway. Things for them aren't "Whats endangering my society I built" but more a case of "which cock that I have access to, provide the best protection and provision for me". Loyalty is an absurd concept to them.
You get on your moral high horse only after race gets brought in, after I basically call all women out? You really know how to get suddenly selectively sensitive. What the fuck did I even say about race, other than that women don't prioritise it over what they get for themselves? Oh hang on, what it that tiny throwaway section of a line about "society I built"? I don't give a rats dick about a persons race, but appreciate women handing everything over to immigrants. Look at those old Swedish feminist hags and their Muslim immigrant toy boys, living it up in a nation they didn't build. "Don't mistake this for being pro-illegal immigration either. Ass." Then what is it cunt? pro legal open borders? Sure open the flood gates to brutal primitive cultures, what could go wrong?
He interrupted in 3 completely different times to talk about Howard in a 50 minute conversation. One of those times was picking up a caller who only wanted to talk about Howard.
@@Cwjespersen It's a radio show, not a podcast. Pandering to the simple simons out there who were frothing at the gash to hear an escalation of their favorite radio feud is how you retain an audience. I think you're ignoring some of the context because Interrupting for a total of three minutes over the course of an hour doesn't seem that obnoxious to me. Seems better than most radio shows, actually.
Opie is not all that Funny, but at that Time, and especially the Early Years. He was super import to the show. Anything problems that Opie caused with the people around Him doesnt change that she he was basically the Quarterback of the O&A Show.
I lost my two daughters to false accusations. Lost a 4 bedroom house, £25k savings and had to pay child Maintenence for children she wouldn’t let me see... I spent £14k on solicitor fees. I was 26. I’m now 32, unfortunately I don’t see my daughters (long story) but I no longer pay child maintenance... she has been married and divorced 3 times. I won’t ever marry again. Now have 5 properties , plenty of money and soo happy... other than my daughters I’m set free!
M Ciddy she said I neglected my daughters. One example was that I mowed the lawn and left my one year old daughter upstairs asleep. I think they just find a ‘safety’ excuse and her solicitor just went with it. My ex also insinuated that my youngest had marks on her after I told her I changed her nappy during my time with them. I was petrified that she was going to say I touched them sexually or something. I think she was bluffing but imagine I was accused of such a thing. Many people would believe SoMeThinG must have happened as no mother would date make such an accusation. It opened my eyes to how evil humans are and how I lived with someone with potential to do that. Even after all these years I can’t wrap my head round the whole thing.
I think you can marry with a prenup. It’ll remove the thorn from the relationship. Im only saying this coz u seem to liked having a family of your own. Hope you are happy my dude
@@frusciantesplectrum7980 That's pure evil man,you dodged a nuke. Jordan Peterson's channel is a good antidote on why people are intrinsically malevolent. Hope it helps.
Patrice and Anthony were such good friends. They understood and respected each other even though they had their differences. If he knew that Bill Burr would later ban Ant from his benefit he would've chewed Billy's ass out.
People change .If someone disrespected my wife the way Anthony did, I would have cut him off as well. I'm not so sure Patrice would have let that one roll off , either.He left Burr few options, - and that isn't funny or cool .
@Liam Prieto That's the reason why most these rich people get married I believe...like Rogan...he was so anti marriage but look at him now... Afraid of dying alone, jealousy(coveting), insecurities( I guess they all stem from insecurity ) and im sure all kinds of reasons why they do it but I think what you said, nailed it on the head) I wonder what happens if they get a divorce....cause they talk alot about that too... They never mention the fact that they used to talk shit about marriage...I listen to these two a lot and don't remember them saying anything about them being hypocrites... I think Patrice would of fallen into this trap too ...
Always think of this question before you consider marriage in America, "Other than my children having the same last names (if applicable), what benefit would "I" receive that *REQUIRES* marriage?" Love doesn't require marriage, nor does having someone around for the rest of your life, or even purchasing a home. Modern marriage is a woman's insurance policy, that would ensure she will be taken care of when she gets tired of emasculating you. Just like so many other things in this nation, the justice system is geared toward protecting the woman, no matter how bad she treats, or fucks you over.... even in divorce.
I'm still trying to figure out the female desire to emasculate. Maybe it's a shit test to find out of you're man enough to not take crap, but then she'll hate you for being an ass. If you submit, she'll hate you for being a pussy. This would happen regardless of alimony laws. I truly think most women don't want to be happy in their marriage. Why? I don't know. Probably so they have something to talk about with their friends.
Marriage was for two things. One was division of labour - he did work she couldn't do, and so then she did work around the house he didn't have time for. Modern convenience reduced her housework to what single men can now do now, after work and weekends. The second reason was lineage. When she became married, he could tell her not to hang around with men when he wasn't around. Who wants a wife who goes off with other men, and then ends up pregnant? She knows it's her baby whoever fucks her, but you might spend years raising another mans child. Now men have no control of who fucks her, and divorce courts have even refused to allow DNA test results, even when they're both white and the baby is brown. You pay, or you go to jail. Mainstream pushes the idea that it's because marriage is old fashioned. The real reason is that the government and corporations deliberately undermined it, till it became defunct. Why undermine it? More money milked, and easier to control.
Mark Robertson It’s because deep down they want you to pass them so they can keep looking up to you as “the man.” In other words a man they’re willing to submit to. A good example Patrice gave is the sensei-student relationship. Women are the student who learn from you and then one day think they can beat you. They really want you to keep being the master who puts them back in their place but every so often they have to keep trying their hand at beating you. Once they do they’ll move on to the next master.
Their reaction to that first caller's divorce ending in paying 10% of his income to her for one year was incredible. They're considering a woman still getting money at the end a victory even though it's minimal.
Any woman that does this to a man is not human. If they were on fire I wouldnt even spit on them to put it out. If you are with a woman that has done this to a man you are just as low as she is. Hearing this damn near ruined my evening.
Wrong, any woman that does this to a man is a woman. That's the whole point. That's what they do. The weaker you are the more they'll stomp you until you're out of cash and done. If you're not leading the relationship you're doomed. If you haven't understood that through Patrice idk how to explain it to you.
For the life of me, I will never understand the concept of alimony, and how feminists aren’t up in arms about it. It basically presents a scenario where women are helpless children who have no agency, aren’t capable of taking care of themselves, and need a man to take care of them even when they’re alone.
Dad had a buddy in California that divorced his wife, and owes her alimony. She talked him into paying for a whole year at once, to make it more convenient for him. He did this, and she got married the next day.
@@RespectProcess it's pretty much implying both of those scenarios. Forcing men to pay ANY amount of money HE makes to his ex wife after a divorce, as well as any money he personally made or anything he personally bought, is one of those things we have still even though jt absolutely shouldn't exist and is inarguably asinine and unfair. The reason it became a thing and used to make sense was because women didn't used to work, and if divorced would be unable to support herself on her own and potentially fucked if she didn't have anyone else to take care of her. To make a man give away his money to a woman who's perfectly capable of earning money herself is also to imply the mere fact of her having a stinky cunt means the man's time, money, and effort are worth less than hers and she is entitled to his everything. Could you imagine forcing a stranger, a man you don't know, to essentially be a slave to his now ex wife, a woman who he likely hates more than anyone? Can you imagine going to work everyday and working hard knowing that you don't get to keep the money you're working for because you're court ordered to give it to your fucking ex wife so she can sit at home with her new man? My god I have so much sympathy for any man who lived that reality... What an injustice
I HOPE people realize that Ant went through a horrible divorce, because of his own actions. He was completely enabling his wife to become a monster. I love Ant. He's a special person, but you shouldn't take relationship advice from him.
Lol! Poor Anthony, he did really get screwed over in the divorce. Right before his wife filed he signed the biggest contract of his life, over $20 Million as I recall. So she got half of that and alimony based on his estimated future earnings. Unfortunately, right after the divorce the Saint Pat's debacle happened and Anthony was unemployed and even though he eventually got back on at XM, his earnings was about 1/5 of what he was making on terrestrial radio. But if its any consolation, Anthony said recently that she blew every penny and was working at a hot dog stand once the alimony ended in 2009.
I have very little sympathy for Anthony. He went through marrying someone he clearly never loved, cried on his wedding night from regret, stuck around in an abusive, shitty marriage because he’s a coward and chose to drown his frustrations in alcohol. He never grew up, still can’t handle confrontation. Even when there are millions at stake. Thank god he never had kids. Gene pool is polluted enough without his rockhead daego crotch goblins.
easy. marriage. if you got a joined account. it belongs to the women. btw if anthony took the money , she will go cry to the judge and he'll force you to give her half.
@John Smith Yeah but in some countries joint accounts are needed for renting appartment/buying house etc. so idk if it was in their state. either way even if it was in his accoutn she'd stil take that shit
After hearing all this, and witnessing the utter hell of my parents' divorce (which I think might have actually gone on for a whole decade), I have to say - marriage ain't for me. What a critical thing to learn in my mid-20's, well before anything could happen to me. Thank god for the O&A show!
Look dude. I’m happily married and don’t listen to pussies who haven’t even had a girlfriend. They will end up depressed. The only advice I can give is get married to the girl you have 0 doubts and sets her pride aside for you! Don’t do no prenups. If you are getting into a relationship with doubts, don’t do it. And don’t marry because of feelings. Marry a girl because of solid life values.
Does that also apply to permanent alimony that was settled before this law? I would think yes, similar to how a death sentence can be reversed if the death penalty is banned. Death sentence, marriage, all similar lol
@@michaelchimenti2847 Anthony Cumia is a pee dough who got catfished by a 40 year old man pretending to be a 14 year old girl ( SelfCuttingGirl Saga), said he would go as low as 13 on the radio, and was caught following several tweens on Vine. He also had a sexual dalliance with transgender cosplayer Sue Lightning. He pretends to be a conservative while having the morality and lifestyle of a Far-Left progressive Liberal.
John R Yep. That early JRE, with Dave Foley, is one of the saddest marriage stories ever. I mean, short of the wife murdering the man, and getting all the money, with the children getting nothing, it's a perfect way to help scare someone out of marriage. Rogan talking about Phil Hartman's marriage, then eventual murder, is a pretty good one as well.
I feel so sorry for men now. Men just can't be happy healthy masculine without constant criticism. It is truly mind boggling how much men are emasculated everywhere, home, the media, even down to social norms. Men please don't allow yourself to be emasculated it is awful for your health. It lowers testosterone levels which effects concentration, sexual performance, mental health and it gets worse from there. Marriage can work but it needs to be with a woman who doesn't emasculate. Ladies most men are not out to make you a victim and take advantage of you. Most men want to provide and be gentle with you just allow him! He will mess up and not do it perfect but have some patience.
People who say they’re afraid of “dying alone” have clearly never taken care of an elderly person. It is 0.000001% of the population who are lucky enough to live in their 90’s with a husband/wife peacefully. Majority of us will lose our minds, start shitting our pants, and get thrown in a home. It’s amazing how much society pressures us into the madness of marriage. I know people in their late 20’s who’s lives are over because of marriage laws and divorce court.
Both my grandparents couples were together all their life and eventually all died alone. Besides that last chapter, a question is if you want to life alone or with somebody for the majority of your life. Though even if you do choose the latter, there is no assurance, that it will work out, specifically in this day and age and generations. I invested and parcially wasted time and energy into 3 serious, monogamous relationships between 24 and 36 (one, three and five years) and in the end all those woman broke up with me.
Word to the wise. FYI. Everyone dies alone. Hard working men always die leaving all their hard work behind them to ppl who probably won’t even work as hard to maintain it
To every modern dude out there, realize you're going into a marriage FUCKED already. Even if you did nothing wrong and she wants a divorce, you're giving so much money her way especially if you have a kiddo or two. So glad I saw the writing on the wall in my early 20s with a gf trying to interest me into a marriage even though I have zero interest in doing that. Now Im almost 30 and I feel great about my future and my career path as a musician and songwriter. As well as being able to move to the area of the US I wanna move to without any complaints from a nagging wife.
Say what you will about Ant he is sharp as a tack and his brain works faster in terms of processing concepts, particularly funny ones, than most people could ever dream.
I’m single and it’s great. There’s barely any nice girls left to date. There’s something about so many girls I see idk what it is they just seem used up an such... not all of them but uh, too many
Can’t stand listening to Ant complain about how he got outsmarted, robbed of 5 figures, got a cheap lawyer, and then gave up. Is he gunna take any accountability?
"Was she following you?" I'm sure he meant when you get into an argument, did she follow you around when fighting with each other. I've been there. Wow. I really wish Patrice was still here. He'd be right up there with Bill and Dave, no doubt. In a perfect world, Louis CK too:)
Joseph Sandman mine made made 6x’s what i make a yr. had an 8 month affair on me filed for divorce once she got caught and got the house and everything and i got to be homeless and without a pot to piss in after 16 yrs of marriage. I’d rather chop my own balls off than to ever make that mistake again.
I got off pretty good next to Anthony but it was still not fair in the least bit. It's as if the law was written in 1920 and nobody has ever changed it. I will never got married again only if she makes way more then I and believe me if it ended I would take all I could get.
"It's as if the law was written in 1920 and nobody has ever changed it." Why would they change it...to be fair to you? You are nothing to them, but a source of income. Just look at how many men kill themselves when going through this meat grinder, NOT A FUCKING TEAR is shed. Only way to stay safe is to remove any option for them to to entangle you legally. Check for common law, have no children, and do not marry, otherwise, you're playing Russian roulette and hoping for the best.
I cannot and never have related to the idea of getting married. It is so obviously a business transaction. The only reasons I can think of as to why a man might get married is either because he grew up religious/traditional and has thus been infected with marital ideals or he allows himself to be bullied by his girl. You can be the primary bread winner, live w/ someone, and have kids with them all without signing a contract. This situation would actually force people to be more mature and fairer about how much money should exchange hands, how often kids go with who, etc.
The broad caller at 40:22 asks how Anthony met that douchebag ( his Ex-wife ).. Anthony goes oh Oh you mean my wife. That was such a rip out of Opie 😂😂😂😆😆😆😆👍👍👍
Shiiiiit, I had an ex sociopath girlfriend who threatened to have me murdered, stole my property, slandered me at work and got her new husband a job where we both mutually worked. Luckily the husband was just about working, and within 8 months he divorced her. Finally she moved away. Needless to say I'm not really interested in getting married right now. Fuck that!
Fellas, make sure she signs a prenup. If she really loves you she won’t have a problem signing it. And don’t let her sign the prenup or anything else if and when she’s under EMOTIONAL DISTRESS, cuz that’ll be thrown out the courtroom in her favor and not yours.
"But how did Anthony help you?" It's called a "gut check", Opie. If you're making way more than your spouse- You can be married a few years and not owe them too much. If the marriage stinks, you simply pull the pin. Would've save Anthony a ton of money.
Lol… ant and Patrice are having a convo about divorce…. Then Opie goes to the phones, to take a call from a caller shitting on Howard that had nothing to do with the conversation
17:30 What are you going to say? Every time some guy tries to tell you what’s up with your girl and you’ll almost always call him an asshole for it, it might even end the friendship.