PAUL AND MORGAN PLAYED A RISKY GAME | Reaction 

Throwing up at the alter and crying at the thought of divorce are clear signs of intense fear of abandonment and rejection sensitivity. I’m no fan of her but it feels so cruel that Morgan’s mental health and anxiety issues are treated like a punchline and used as clickbait.

Paul has no respect for Morgan, and Morgan doesn’t know how to handle it except to laugh it off, but it clearly hurts her. It’s so uncomfortable to watch. He is so plainly and openly emotionally abusive toward her. I just cannot imagine being in a relationship with, much less marrying, a man who would speak so condescendingly toward me and put me down so publicly. It’s honestly so disturbing and extremely sad.

The invalidation of her feelings due to her being on her period is insane. Your feelings can be valid even if they are more intense in the moment.

she just laughs at everything, really seems like a defense mechanism.

The fact that they openly laugh online about their problems… it’s like they don’t realize we can all see the pain in their eyes behind this forced laughing face… it’s so cringe and tragic honestly.

Every single piece of their content that I’ve seen makes me feel like they have absolutely no business trying to give anyone relationship advice.

I don’t find them to be sincere or relatable but I do feel like I’m watching teenagers play house.

Interesting how Paul famously keeps shaming Morgan on not being a virgin at marriage but has considered divorce where Morgan says only sexual immortality is grounds for divorce in their belief. Does that mean Paul still considers Morgan de facto still sexually immoral to this day for not saving herself and chose to marry and hold this over her anyway? He can leave any time because she ruined her sexual morality before meeting him? Why marry someone you think is unsaveably morally failed if not for feeling superior at every point in the marriage?

The incessant laughter screams "our marriage sucks but I have to put on an act so people think we are perfect!" These two act like children playing house. Don't sleep with your partner when you are fighting. Work out the problem and then do your business. Your partner should be willing to listen to your problems and you should not be forced to be intimate with someone who is making you mad at the moment.

Okay my husband is a boxing instructor and wrapping someone’s hands is like a basic part of the job 🥴 Paul feeling threatened by that is genuinely sort of funny

I didn't like Paul going after Morgan for packing to go to her parent's house. He wasn't bringing it up to ask her what her thoughts and feelings were when she did that, he brought it up to try and bring her down morally in their audience's eyes.

I’m sorry, but did Paul just publicly invalidate Morgan’s opinion because of HER PERIOD????

PAUL DID NOT TRY TO SPIN THE DIVORCE QUESTION TO MAKE HER THE BAD GUY!!!! I feel so bad for her. I wish she’d pack her stuff and leave him for real.

She said she NEVER thought of getting a divorce, so her packing her stuffs was her distancing herself from the situation. It was more about recentering herself. He may not have packed up his stuffs, be he thought of getting the divorce, so in my eyes she is the most "morale" one

Paul redirecting the divorce conversation to make Morgan the “more wrong” one when he clearly hurt her feelings was so unsettling. I can only imagine what kind of things he does when they’re actually arguing

My jaw also dropped when he tried to turn around the divorce answer and make Morgan feel like she had gotten closer to doing that than him even though he was the one who put he'd thought about it and Morgan had never thought about it.

8:54 Morgan *picks she disagrees that RU-vid is the best job* Us and B “hmm wonder why” Paul “so Morgan is on her period” Good heavens. Every-time I hear Paul say something he just confirms the type of person he is. Just a major eye roll of a person

While Morgan came across more aggressive in this video, I wonder if her underlying sense of irritation towards Paul is a result of his seemingly constant pointed jabs. We hear so much about her “sexual immorality”, her laziness (she’s diagnosed with depression) her willfulness to take the lead in the marriage. Even when Morgan had a valid reaction to finding out Paul considered divorce, he couldn’t just let her have a moment. He made her hold his hand, then threw the time she packed to visit her parents back in her face. He couldn’t just let the strong moment breathe, he had to remind everyone of a time Morgan failed in his eyes I often wonder what would have happened if Morgan had swiped right on a more progressive Christian. Maybe I’m giving her too much credit, but I feel like she’s saying what Paul wants her to say, whereas if she met someone who didn’t weaponize her “sexually immoral past” at every turn, didn’t use religion to undermine mental health treatment, and just didn’t feel the need to sneak in little jabs all the time, would she be a more pleasant and tolerant person?

Morgan’s giggle makes me so anxious !!!! It reminds me of when I was little and trying not to get in trouble

Jesus Christ him demanding her hand while she’s crying after learning he’s considered divorcing her is soooo fucked up

I'm just gonna say these people seem palpably unhappy and watching them is always super awkward and uncomfortable for me.

Every time morgan laughs through pain or shame or awkwardness, my heart breaks a little. I was in an emotionally abusive relationship and her reactions remind me so much of myself at that time. I really hope she’s okay and that I’m just reading too far into it.

All of Paul's behavior over the years has convinced me he's an abuser. Period. He does not give an actual hell about this woman, he wants to possess, control and shape every aspect of her life, and he's DEEPLY offended the moment she disagrees or turns the tables. I truly hope she gets out one day.

It’s a little strange that Paul looks directly at the camera, instead of Morgan, as he’s explaining himself after she was crying.

Another thing I immediately thought of about the phone thing is, no matter how much I trust my partner, sometimes I have conversations with friends where there share personal details with me it would not be appropriate to share with anyone else. Not wanting my partner to stumble across those isn't an issue of me not trusting my partner, but rather an issue of me deserving the trust my friends put in me by being vulnerable with me

The fact that when it came to thoughts on divorce, Morgan’s reasoning came from scripture and Paul’s reasoning came from reality and his emotional just tells me that religion isn’t for men. It’s to keep women and minorities in check and give men a “manual” to resort to for excuses.🙄

That was painful. I often feel like their laughter, especially Morgan's, is a cover and it makes me uncomfortable and worried about her.

Ok just got to the divorce question. As a Christian I would say sexual immorality would be something a couple could work through. MUCH MORE than an abusive partner! A person could cheat and repent and never do it again. Not saying you HAVE to stay. If it is your line you can’t come back from by all means leave but that is much easier to come back from than a super toxic abusive relationship!!! WOW cannot believe they feel that way!!!

So…is anyone else wondering whether Morgan’s laughter is a “fawn effect”? I feel like a lot of their streams lately are, at the very least, unwise in what they share, and at the worse, pretty worrisome.

I just keep getting alarm bells that he is emotionally abusive to her

I've always felt weird about Paul and seeing him invalidate Morgan's emotions is honestly heartbreaking. Morgan is a totally different person online after marrying Paul and I do think he is emotional abusive towards Morgan.

morgan's reaction to paul's divorce answer broke my heart a bit honestly, i really hope she's okay

Morgan laughs so she doesn’t throat punch Paul.

Why is it so tense between them always. Even with Morgan laughing, it feels like Paul is going to explode and then give her the silent treatment once the cameras go off. Idk. I just always feel this air of tension between them. It's not like regular couples who are just easy with eachother.

Omg the fact she was counting down first night to be over is hilarious. They are a walking red-flag

If Paul’s family is anything like Paul then I could easily imagine that they may be more annoying than most

I find myself often feeling bad for Morgan. The way she uses laughing as a coping mechanism. The fact that she has untreated mental illness because she trusts faith to heal everything. The way she has hinted at how Paul isn’t the most giving partner in the bedroom and expects to be intimate even when they are fighting. It wouldn’t surprise me if he has used the fact that she wasn’t “pure” when they got married against her multiple times. I see so much insecurity and feeling of inadequacy in her and she could truly thrive if she was able to 100% be herself.

As a lesbian watching this I laughed my ass off when they said an hour of sex is a long time iykyk (but also my god is this hard to get through, the PAIN in their laughter is palpable)

I wish they’d talk about these things in therapy instead of on RU-vid.

Morgan is laughing wayyyy too much for this whole video to have not been funny at all 😅

Your face while listening to Morgan describing their first time having sex was hilarious. I could see this amazing cacophony of conflicting emotions that I can’t quite identify but also somehow deeply relate to lol.

I appreciate your commentary. I’ve watched quite a few. As much as I don’t like Paul or Morgan as people, I did feel for Morgan at the divorce question. I feel like Paul is purposely mean at times bc he knows she won’t leave unless there’s cheating involved. The laughing was definitely a coping mechanism. I almost felt bad for Paul at the “sex lasted a long time… it was around an hour”. I definitely thought she was going to say multiple hours. Paul also strikes me as someone who isn’t very good at it (selfish) so the hour probably felt much longer. For me, I’ve seen very few, if any, redeeming qualities for Paul aside from being stereotypically good looking.

I've been married ten years, I have no desire to cheat and neither does my husband, but I don't think it's necessary or healthy for spouses to go through each others' phones. My conversations with my friends are personal, and vice versa. If I want to share those things with my husband, that should be on my terms. And vice versa. I trust him. I don't need to know every single thing he's doing or looking at.

Paul. Blaming Morgan’s displeasure or unhappiness with the situation on her period is the ultimate form of misogynistic gaslighting.

31:22 NOT PAUL GASLIGHTING MORGAN! Like is he really trying to be like “oh yeah you def wanted a divorce” cause she wanted space and probably a trusted a secure person to vent to!! I’m so glad Morgan clapped back and was like “yeah you’re still the a**hole who said he’d want a divorce”

I always told my abusive ex husband that divorce wasn’t an option. He threw it in my face when I served papers. When I watched this video of Paul and Morgan is when I realized how reassuring it was to him, because he made me cement it into my brain that no matter what, divorce wasn’t an option… and then he started abusing me physically. If they ever divorce, I hope Morgan gets therapy and possibly speaks out. I’m not saying Paul is abusive, but, he is awful.

I'm actually casting this on my TV but props for describing the scene for the people just listening, that's so thoughtful 💜

Their marriage is doomed. Morgan is driving the struggle bus, Paul is the naughy child in the back. He utterly fails to meet her emotional needs on almost every level, yet demands to have his needs met. I worry about Morgan. She seems so dis-empowered 😢

All Morgan's laughing makes me so uncomfortable. Clearly she's masking everything and it's her way of confronting what might be a difficult conversation for them, or even brought up later off camera. Like, she laughs at EVERY answer they put and it is such a red flag of how she feels in his presence when talking about serious topics.

Morgan's laughing has never not made me feel deeply uncomfortable, like she's using it to mask whatever negative emotion she really feels, NOT because she thinks the situation is funny.

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I'm atheist and LOVE your commentary. It is kind and full of common sense and your love for your religion is beautiful. You spread a positive message and that's what's important.

Omg I’m literally tearing up over her reaction to his answer. He’s just the worst. (ETA: full on cry after your words about the divorce topic. Man. I’m sure someone needed to hear that so I appreciate you saying it. ❤ He’s still absolutely the worst tho. )

the fact that morgan had to hear for the first time that paul thought about divorce through this challenge says A LOT. i feel like they are both so immature and morgan constantly laughing shows how truly uncomfortable she is but cant do anything about it. i use humor to cope a lot so i get it but like wtf.... i think its okay to think about splitting because i constantly have doubts about my relationship and myself but i know those feelings and thoughts stem from my own insecurities and issues with myself and not because i dont love my partner or think he is not good for me and i have openly discussed that with him. also, the whole idea that the ONLY reason you should divorce is infidelity is also so problematic for many reasons but to me it shows how trapped women feel in "biblical" marriages. there are MANY valid reasons for people to divorce and that whole ideology is so toxic and dangerous for people who experience DA within these types of communities. they're answers are valid and their answers alone are not an issue, but their reasonings and the fact that they hadn't discussed this before until now is what i find an issue with.

What makes me uncomfortable isn’t only Morgan’s constant laughter and passive aggressive remarks, it’s also Paul’s face. He looks SO irritated when he looks at her and like he has all this pent up anger inside of him.. 👀 It’s hard to watch.

It’s so weird to me that they basically always admit to fighting. Like a fight every once in a while is normal but I feel like every video I see shows them saying how much they fight. Maybe it’s because I only watch the reactions to their videos but still! Weird..

My husband was very abusive our first year of marriage and we sought counseling because I love him with every fiber of my being. He became abusive after a freak horrible car accident we were in. The counselor was a heavy Bible oriented one and I told him I wanted to divorce my husband because of how much worse things had gotten and he told me I shouldn't divorce him because he hadn't cheated on me so it would be a sin for me to leave him and my husband agreedand they both tried to gaslight me to stay in the marriage. I said eff that and proceeded to get divorce papers and only at that point did my husband see how serious I was and understand how he infact was the problem and worked so hard on himself and did a 180 turn back to the man I fell in love with. We are good now and he continues to work everyday to right the wrongs he did. I know to some it sounds stupid to of stayed with him but I love him and don't want to give up on him. He knows tho I will leave him if he reverts back even the slightest bit

This whole game they're playing is probably a great way for couples to grow their relationship... I just don't think it's beneficial for them or their audience to video it and post it on the internet. A lot of their reactions were obviously performative and uncomfortable for them.

That was absolutely vile and extremely disturbing to watch. Paul is abusing his wife on camera for views in the name of Jesus. She is absolutely devastated, and she's completely gaslit. My heart is broken for her ...

Morgan is trapped with Paul. She’s a muted version of herself. Remember the music videos she produced before she was with him. She’s a good singer and she was actually really charismatic. Paul just dulls her shine.

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Win: got 3 job interviews this week after a month+ of applying and hearing back from no one!!

It's so weird to me that they put "*Morgan cries" on the thumbnail, like that's a selling point...??

i’m not religious, but i really appreciate this video. it’s so refreshing to hear a christian say it’s okay to seek divorce in unhealthy relationships. so often far right conservative christians voices are amplified. hearing a young progressive christian voice is refreshing!

Her laughing would get on my nerves an I always hoped it was an anxiety response. This proves it is, an I feel so bad for her that she has to “laugh off” her emotions. I’ve been here an I still am at times. So I guess I’ll try even harder to not let her squeaky laugh get to me 😢

8:40 I had to go back and re listen… “you did just come off your period” so she’s not even on her period right now?? How often does he use this to invalidate her feelings then? “You’re PMSing/on you’re period/just off your period” .. like does Morgan get like 1 week a month of valid feelings in his eyes or something????

Going on forever equals an hour?!?! Oh my goodness. I was thinking she meant four or five hours

In regards to divorce it was implemented by Moses by God’s instruction as a way to deal with the hardness of men’s hearts who were not taking care of their wives. I believe this carries into today. In the most simple of terms, if a spouse isn’t for you and creating a healthy marriage that is mutual, than it’s ok to go.

21:07 agreed. I feel like there is a sort of friendship HIPPA. Like just cause your aware of an issue, unless that person gives you consent or explicitly ask for your partners prayers or opinion, then the information is between you and the friend. This is especially important if it is the friend who is sharing and entrusting you

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personally, i find it pretty telling (and appalling) that Paul's first instinct when Morgan gets legitimately upset, enough to start crying, is to laugh at her and go "ha-ha, look guys, she's crying!" Not, forget the cameras for a second, let me comfort my wife, hug her, explain myself and tell her that "hey, you know our first few years together were difficult, so yeah, the thought crossed my mind once or twice. But I'm SO glad I never seriously let those thoughts in, because I love you and couldn't imagine my life without you." Nothing like that. He just laughs at her like "haha guys, women on their period, so emotional, so funny, am i right? lol" and it's only after he realizes how genuinely upset she is and how crappy it looks does he try to do anything to comfort her. an it's only to take her hand at that. like dude, you should've known this was gonna be an issue the moment she put her glass on strongly disagree, indicating she's NEVER thought about divorce, and you didn't. you should've known that real feelings would come up right then, and you should've stopped being a youtuber and a content creator right at that moment and started being a husband who cares about his wife. but like i said, i think his response is very telling, at least in regards to how much he actually values morgan as a human being. i'm not religious anymore, but i have no problem with normal religious people. what i have a problem with is people like, fundamentalists who preach that their way is the "best way" and the ONLYU righteous way to live. except when you actually look at it, their way is nothing more than a trap for most women, an ideology that indulges in victim blaming, shaming women, treating them like property, and sets them up to get stuck in abusive situations. and even if it's not THAT bad, they still make traditional christian marriage seem like the kind of loveless hell i'd rather die alone than be trapped in. thanks, but i'll take my healthy secular relationship complete with autonomy, trust and genuine caring any day

"It went on forever!! An hour!" Oh, honey...

Speaking of catchphrases, I really like yours at the end! "Please be kind to people"

Honestly, divorcing her might be a huge gift in disguise. Their content is so hard to watch, he's so callous with her 😢

It’s so hard to watch. In my late teens/early twenties, I was engaged to a guy and fully immersed in the church/purity culture/gender roles. Morgan reminds me so much of my friends and myself at that age. You are just longing to be accepted by anyone (God), you truly believe that God has given you a second chance at redemption, so you are willing to put up with anything. Her throwing up at the alter and discomfort on their wedding night, remind me of someone who was unfortunately unable to process her emotions consciously and therefore, her body reacted. Paul, on the other hand, also reminds me of so many christian boys I was around growing up. In a religion of absolutes, they are not taught how to cope with the reality that they fall in love with someone who is not “pure”. They are taught that they just need to pick the right person and God will bless them. But, I think often times men are drawn to women like Morgan because of their authenticity and vulnerability. However that’s giving them the benefit of the doubt, there is also the likelihood, that consciously or subconsciously men are drawn to vulnerable/hurt women because they can easily manipulate them into being the women they want AND also the woman in that situation will just feel so grateful to be given a second chance. Regarding the decision to be a youtuber/over sharing on the internet, I am so curious what made them decide to take this path. And I wonder if Paul wants to overshare because he believes in the end he comes out as looking like the better person when they are honest. I think this could explain part of the reason he always brings up her not being a virgin, etc. Not only is it something he blames himself for/is ashamed of (because the patriarchy also takes a mental toll on men), but I think it makes him extremely “virtuous” or “forgiving”. And anything he does, will never be that bad, from his perspective. Man, I could write a literal dissertation about all of this LOL

I hope this doesn't come across as judgemental or critical. Watching Paul&Morgan's videos when they're together makes me appreciate my husband even more, because he's nothing like that guy. I'm so grateful that my husband is (and became so while we dated) authentically my best friend. Paul&Morgan don't seem to be friends with each other, and I feel sad for them. It would my own personal hell to be in an obligatory marriage, where my partner didn't respect my feelings and perspective as valid and legitimate. Like when Paul blamed Morgan's "negativity" on her period, that... like it hurt my feelings to watch. My husband wouldn't ever do that to me, because he's my friend, and he supports my goals/desires/wants in life, and he respects that my feelings and perspectives are just as important to our lives as his. That whole video they made is really, truly a sad thing. I hope for them, Paul and Morgan can figure out a way to develop a friendship instead of just being married.

SO much covering-the-discomfort laughter. Aaahhhhh

My win: I got through a really stressful situation without having a full panic attack. I don't normally comment but I wanted to say, I really appreciate and respect the content that you make. I align more with the atheist/agnostic ideologies but I love tuning in and hearing your perspective on this sort of content. It can be easy to develop a narrow view of religious relationships when you are on the outside so hearing your thoughts and ideas on how to maintain healthy and SAFE Christian marriage is both refreshing and grounding. Your respect for those, like Morgan and Paul, who also identify as Christians with very different viewpoints is beautiful and caring and shows such grace. Keep up the amazing content and I know that many of us non religious folk will keep watching because you are great!

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I was stunned when she said an HOUR. Oh, child…regarding the last comment about the video, a perfect example of just how emotionally unhealthy it is, was when he said her crying would make a good intro click. Think about that? Your partner had a pure emotional reaction about your relationship and that’s what you thought of. I mean. 😶

Win for the week, I'm eleven months sober! 🎉

My parents knew each other for about 5 months before they started dating. They had a similar group of friends that they hung out with and that's how they first got to know each other. They dated for 3 weeks, and then engaged for 3 months before they got married. My dad purposefully didn't ask my mom's dad for permission before he proposed because he knew it sounded so ridiculous. They are still married all these years later but my parents made it very clear that they were a very rare exception and that if I ever came home to say I was engaged to a guy I'd been dating for anything less than 6 months, we'd have a very serious conversation and a real possibility of them not coming to the wedding. All this to say that while there are exceptions, please please be sure before you get married and don't rush into it because of outside pressure.

Win for the week: therapy is going well & I have a great therapist! 💙✨️

If she think an hour was too long maybe it's because it was so boring in that department

OMG the constant laughter I can't stand it!!!

You not having a poker face is something I relate to so hard 😂

Morgan laughs the same way the girls who bullied me in high school did 🥴

This is so sad…they don’t look like they are happy with each other. It’s just so uncomfortable to watch them interact.

Being intimate when you are angry with each other imo is psychological, physical and spiritual abuse.

I hate how he keeps bringing up her period as if it is a trial God had given mankind to endure and we just need to hold on until it is over. Like he deals with it bc he has to??? If I was forced to be with a guy like that, I would never ever speak about my period or anything having to do with it to him ever ever ever again. That creep probably forces Morgan to mark her cycle on a calendar

"ah she's crying" what the hell is wrong with Paul

It seems like they have awful arguments so often. It’s sad. Also they talk so so much about how much work marriage is and how difficult it is. Marriage shouldn’t be *that* much work. I don’t like speculating on another marriage (they put it all out there to the world, though), but it doesn’t seem like a good situation…

My win for the week is being there for someone I care about who was going through a hard time. ☺♥🙏

Every video they do just comes off as so awkward and uncomfortable. Great video as usual!

I always feel so gloomy and sad after watching these two. It brings up painful memories from my own unhealthy relationships.

I think Paul’s “secrets” he keeps from Morgan is him having awful misogynistic complaints about her to his friends and categorising it as typical “guy stuff”

My win for the week: I am about to pay my car off 17 months early!!!!!

Why is every TMI moment that Paul shares actually Morgan's business? 🤔 then he says "TMI for DMI 🤪" like, "you can't get mad it's for the video 🙃" like sir.. 🤦🤦 And the dig about her being on her period is just condescending. But that's how he usually acts, so I'm not surprised. Thank you, Paul, for showing me what I don't want in a man! Not being respectful about what someone goes through on their period is just a no from me. 🙅🚩🚩🚩

Disgusting. Paul and Morgan agreeing that it's best practise to still have sex when mad at each other made me sick. Sex is an act of mutual trust and love and if you want to get "christian" about it- it's made for the utmost enjoyment of each other with the deepest possible knowing of each other. Having angry feelings while trying to have sex just sounds so so so gross. Do the hard emotional work to get on a better playing field before you try to get intimate like that what the actual hell.

25:23 I don’t know if you have already seen or reacted to it. But in one of their sex advice videos, Paul and Morgan talked about how they got into this big fight and they went to bed angry at each other. Paul still wanted to have sex and got really upset when he didn’t so he took a long, angsty drive in his car because he wasn’t going to have sex. Paul finds out live in the stream Morgan did know Paul still wanted to have sex; she was just too mad to do it and wanted to sleep on it first. I suggest watching that video because words cannot describe Paul’s reaction to that news, other than chilling. They then go onto say that you should have sex with each other even if you are mad each other, its your duty to your spouse (lets be real: its always said to the wife), etc I don’t think their views have changed since then. If anything, looks like Morgan now agrees with Paul. So if you are wondering where they are coming from this, yeah that is where…