Paul was also trained as a Mentat. He was trained in the Bene Gessirit ways by his mother. He was trained in the Art of War by Gurney and Duncan. His father taught him to rule. So, he was designed to be the perfect ruler by his family, society and the family entourage.
Paul controlling the Spacing Guild, and therefore all interstellar travel, is probably the main reason why his Jihad was so successful. He didn’t HAVE to fight all those who opposed him. He could simply cut off and isolate worlds that resisted and let them die off from lack of resources and spice. Billions would die of starvation. Many seem to forget that spice is highly addictive and withdrawals are painfully fatal. The elite controlling these worlds would die from spice withdrawals and everyone else would fall in line or die as well. Many worlds could easily be subjugated this way without any kind of fighting.
I know right. It’s funny how people think Paul is a hero. It was a great movie but it’s supposed to be a cautionary tale of what can happen with fanaticism.
Just my thoughts; I think that without spice the rest of the galaxy couldn't functionally travel the stars. And so they were all isolated from one another with the Freemen taking worlds one by one and replenishing their numbers from new converts. With those refusing to convert being "removed". Thus leading to the 61 billion number. It seems unrealistic but keep in mind in our own history we have several examples of a small warrior tribe taking out large and populous empires. The Visigoths numbered perhaps 500k in total, yet they defeated western Rome that had 14-18 million people. The Arabs took a big chunk out of eastern Rome (12-16 million) and completely conquered Sassanian Persia(8-10 million) with perhaps 2-4 million total population. And lastly we have the Mongols who were thought to number 800k defeating the Song Dynasty and its 120 million people with the Chinese population dropping to 60 million after they had rolled through.
I hate to say it, but a Real Life Incident (Yes, THAT one) kind of changed my whole opinion of the Fremen from when I was young (first read the Dune series WAY back in High School, longer than I want to remember ago 😅) Whereas then I was all "Yeah! Get them Evil Harkonnens, Paul [and the Fremen]!!" Now I see them as they were probably meant to be seen: Religious Jihadists that were personally responsible for the deaths of Millions upon Millions who did not convert to their new 'religion', and Billions more through collapsing the interstellar trade network that many planets depended on for food and other resources.
0:25 What is The War of the Sisterhoods? In the Dune Universe, happens during Heretics of Dune and Chapterhouse: Dune! There is a problem, with regards to the Dune Series. It is seperated into two parts, Classic Dune and Expanded Dune. *Some spoilers ahead* Classic Dune written by Frank Herbert himself consists of six novels, I honestly prefer Classic Dune to its more nuanced and philosophical take on the issues, story, technology and characters which has ensured Dune’s continuous survival within the Science Fiction Genre. Everyline, every piece of dialogue and every scene is filled with philosophical arguments and questionings, even the detailing of events have some hidden meaning behind them. To read Classic Dune, it follows a simplistic chronological order. Book 1: Dune Book 2: Dune Messiah Book 3: Children of Dune Book 4: God-Emperor of Dune *Book 5: Heretics of Dune* *Book 6: Chapterhouse: Dune* However, Expanded Dune is a bit more complex in a sense. Expanded Dune, written by Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson, has divided the Dune fanbase for certain reasons. First, the writing style is clearly a step back from the writting of Frank Herbert which honestly takes away some of the enlightenment that Frank Herbert seems to impart on the reader. Secondly, inconsistencies are rampant in Expanded Dune, most notably amongst Sequels to Dune and in Legends of Dune. In Sequels to Dune, some themes and lore set by Frank Herbert has been thrown out the window, most notably Daniel and Marty whom mostly remained anonymous in Chapterhouse Dune and hinted to be evolved Face Dancers are instead the Thinking Machines that Humanity defeated in the Butlerian Jihad. Some decisions too seemed to contradict previous notions. For example, the Ghola of Leto II Atredies, chooses to fuse himself with the sandworms (not Sandtrout this time). However, in God Emperor of Dune, Frank Herbert states that Leto II’s metamorphosis was physically painful to the God Emperor and is used to reflect Leto’s lost of Humanity as a sacrifice for the greater good of Man to follow the Golden Path. In Legends of Dune, the Butlerian Jihad is potrayed as an absolute war between man and Nazi Totalitarian Robots that sought to eradicate humanity or at least enslave it. However, in Classic Dune, Frank Herbert wanted the Jihad to be a caveat to Humanity’s laziness and ingenuity as some would call it. He believed that Humanity is capable of indeterminate evolution and achieving infinite possibilities whilst machines made humanity think like machines, to only see things as codes and numbers, patterns and pre-determined conclusions etc. I do not recommend Expanded Dune if you want to understand Frank Herbert’s original intentions and philosophy but it does provide some insight or perspective and context for the events in Dune and ends Classic Dune in a manner that does not really seem to be inline with Herbert’s original plan for Dune 7. So here’s the list. Prequels: 1. Prelude to Dune Dune: House Atredies; Dune: House Harkonnen; Dune: House Corrino. 2. Legends of Dune Dune: The Butlerian Jihad; Dune: The Machine Crusade; Dune: The Battle of Corrin. 3. Schools of Dune (some consider this to be one of their better works ) Sisterhood of Dune; Mentats of Dune; Navigators of Dune. 4. The Caladan Trilogy (Focusing namely on Leto I and the Lady Jessica) (The newer titles with Duke being released in 2019) The Duke of Caladan; The Lady of Caladan; The Heir of Caladan (Unreleased till 2022). Sequels to Dune: Hunters of Dune; Sandworms of Dune. Heroes of Dune (they detail the events of Paul’s Jihad and Childhood as well as Jessica’s investigations after Paul’s disappearance at the end of Dune Messiah before becoming The Preacher): Paul of Dune; The Winds of Dune. That’s all, hope it helps! If you want to know more of the Dune Universe, The Dune Encyclopedia is a nice little Encyclopaedia about the universe of Dune with regards to character biographies, information of the Spice melange ( providing a chemical formula as well ) as well as some more information on the Great Houses and Imperium at large. The video game Dune 2 ( which I enjoy yet am very bad at ) uses some information from the Encyclopedia. Frank Herbert himself provided a foreword though with Expanded Dune it sets a alternative to the Dune Universe than the “Canon” which Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson created. It may be difficult to find a hardcopy of the Encyclopedia due to its rarity ( and that the Herbert Household prevents its reprinting ) there are online copies.
hi higly intersting viedeo ! keep up the good work mate, one thing though if im not mistaken sandworms were seeded on multipel other planets ,tho in the majoraty of cases this failed in some rare cases this endevour succeded , theirby creating alternate spice sources too Dune itself (tho it remained the by far largest producer)
It was only successful in one other place - planet chapterhouse after the destruction of Arrakis (Rakis). And the other sources were artificially made but nowhere near as effective.
I always love the book explanations as a long time fan of the novels and a huge fan of the newest movies I'm in heaven right now lol. I do wish we could've seen Edrick and had Dr. Kynes a bit more but all good...spelling. I also loved Chani's portrayal, but I wish they'd explained why Paul need to marry Irulan and show Chani understanding the reason. I know she seem meek in the novels but she's still a Freman and knows how to fight but all in all love the movies
The numbers don't really add up. I hate it when sci-fi does that. There was only a few million Fremen, and of course a sizeable group would be children, elders and men+women who weren't fighting. A million men can't possibly fight against hundreds of worlds with billions, possibly trillions, of inhabitants.
the Mongols used the same tech as everybody else and a army of 100 thousand to kill millions of people. the harsh environment made strong people, that easily conquered the people in a soft environment.
In my head canon without spice the rest of the galaxy couldn't functionally travel the stars. And so they were all isolated from one another with the Freemen taking worlds one by one and replenishing their numbers from new converts. With those refusing to convert being "removed". Thus leading to the 61 billion number. It seems unrealistic but keep in mind in our own history we have several examples of a small warrior tribe taking out large and populous empires. The Visigoths numbered perhaps 500k in total, yet they defeated western Rome that had 14-18 million people. The Arabs took a big chunk out of eastern Rome (12-16 million) and completely conquered Sassanian Persia(8-10 million) with perhaps 2-4 million total population. And lastly we have the Mongols who were thought to number 800k defeating the Song Dynasty and its 120 million people with the Chinese population dropping to 60 million after they had rolled through.
Well I guess its meant directly and indirectly inflicted causalities, its also mentioned that some planets were completely wiped out and glassed, plus I guess there werent only fremen but also houses that bent or were already conquered. As the guy in the video says, its up to imaginations, but I dont doubt that with Dune tech it wouldnt be hard to wipe out large amounts of people quickly.
@@DembosTheEmperor Also In the classic film from the 70s (idk about the books) some of the Atreides army survived with Duncan idaho in the deserts of Dune and joined in the battles when they learned Paul was alive and became leader + access to the Atomic arms of House Atreides, ships from House Harkonnen, the defiant warriors of the fremen with their ability to use words as weapons leads to conquest.
