Pavel Durov of Telegram: WhatsApp Sucks 

I would say in his turn 161 likes to u

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But who also can find a way to use this thing after disagreement)))

@@arb84 Excellent point 👍 It's almost impossible to continue without clicking on agree with terms & conditions. And It's annoying, they Know that WE will click on agree. And they Know that cookies, spam, and tracing will Spy on us . Lol

lol really

It seems, this was intentional. Because The Matrix movie, is about securing humans against harming tech, and about giving control to people on their lives and their privacy. And this is what Telegram is meant to do.

😂😂😂😂😂👍

he is neo

Fudoobeer SO TRUE

.. and I can elaborate on that :D

Lol

где-то плачет Невский

Абсолютли, абсолютли райт.

Если кому нужно, то 1:32

😂 exactly

still

3 years later.Still sucks😅

it still sucks tho

It's always been interested for me. Why facebook and whatsapp being the most popular social apps are the worst at the same time. I swear, they were created in the beginning of this century and stayed there. Where is the progress? Why is anyone even use it? I don't understand

Hollywood movies, what do you expect?

Hero*

Because he is Russian! Lmao

Не полностью

lmao!

500 million new users to this pathetic application, where there is not even a normal support service and a disgusting attitude towards users? Well, welcome shit lovers.

@@keleborn9151 what the fck do you even want to talk about with customer service of a messaging app?

@@caonima3372 exactly 😂

@@caonima3372 LOL

@@keleborn9151 telegram is better than shitty slow feature-less whatsapp and discord where you have to pay for sending more than 30mb data.

Does it bother you American terrorizing other countries?

It bothered me that they asked him that, especially after I saw his reaction. He was honest about it when he said that they use it and you could see that he has struggled about it. I loved his answer at the end and I don't think he should feel guilty for protecting our privacy.

Нет

У него даже где-то есть цитата "запретите слова, их используют террористы". Бред, они всегда найдут способ общаться;)

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The fact that he dont appear frequently at media doesnt mean that he is undereated... probably Mark Z is overestimated xD

@@isaelalejandroherreraherna9827 man that's so true

AHAHAHAH ridiculous this app doesn't even have a normal support service. What are u talking about.

@@keleborn9151 what exactly are you talking about

@@keleborn9151 if you're talking about Telegram, you're sorely wrong. It's not only the most safety messenger but also the most convenient

Osama Bin La Chuan if you guys really think that Telegram is private then i have bad news for you lmao

@Osama Bin La Chuan how can privacy be more important than killing people?

Took away the exact opposite from anyone else from Dual_EC_DRBG (ie everyone else went 'listen to cryptography experts, don't make weird choices' while Durov went 'ignore cryptography experts, make weird choices'. e.g. Telegram uses: - an encryption protocol that was designed specifically to deliver authentication but doesn't do so - a concatenation system for its MACs (to overcome the lack of authentication) instead of an HMAC exposing it to some of the edge weaknesses of SHA - an encrypt-and-MAC system that could expose information about the plain text while having all sorts of edge failures.

@@burn_out Here's another one 🥱

You are gay

Yep, don't like it

He is either super nervous to be in public, or he hates Durov on a personal level

Maybe he could foresee the future of Durov’s app: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-txlJTscDt1o.html

because he works for MI6 and is actually interrogating Durov to make him spill the beans

because he works for MI6 and is actually interrogating Durov to make him spill something juicy

+FLXD I can surely understand what did you sayed.

there is one Russian "actor", who took part in making american films. They suck so much of course) and this guy really loves saying "ABSOLUTELY!". In each sentence he will say this ABSOLUTELY minimun 3 times. Basically thats the story of meme

"Вот так вот".

вполне прилично он говорит, послушай, как говорит к примеру Лавров. Акцент вещь оч сложная и избавиться от него не родившись в стране, на все 100 практически невозможно. Невский -чмо, сравнивать с ним не стоит. А в мире на акцент не сильно обращают внимание, главное, чтобы речь была грамотная и понятная.

gregory hehe...is that ur name.

Years? Remind me the last time WhatsApp added literally ANYTHING?

Ты серьезно? Единственный?

ну хз. кто ещё ? касперский может. исправил, норм так ?

Честно скопировал фейсбук

@@palm0018 ну если так рассуждать, то цукерберг скопировал успешно майспейс.

@@palm0018 Лол, сам-то Цук вначале нагло воспользовался идеей Саверина, а потом ещё и кинул его с акциями.

Shitty interviewers that are arrogant or try to thumbtack people are common now.

Gee, I wonder why. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-txlJTscDt1o.html

I thought I was the only one who sees it as an interrogation rather than an interview.

@@vhffvjmjvddf3050 Gee....If someone shoots someone with a gun, what?...you are gonna blame the gun? Or person.

@@manojmeliodas6961 at this point he is just spamming

Личная эффективность Михаил Юргенс жиза

Да у тебя и русский хромает

George Detective это на мой взгляд одна из лучших схем изучения. Вооьще играя в PC/PS, слушая подкасты и читая статьи и с небольшой помощью например “english grammar in use” , неспеша можно и UpperInt уровня достичь. Собственно я так и CAE сдал, а это advanced как никак

Лучше бы она тебе говорила русский учить

что мешает учить сейчас?

Сошлись в ратном бою два мессенджера. Один создан российским русским, другой - украинским евреем. 😄

@@terencemalik6415 может будем оценивать продукт, а не происхождение его создателя?

@@DaCashRap Обязательно будем. Но потом.

телега тоже отстой, перестала развиваться, много косяков в ней

@@user-yj1on3bf1v например?

Sure, but remember that Telegram is unencrypted by default. Most people use it that way, which is a lot worse than using WhatsApp

@@europeanunion5765 For a country that still uses Facebook Messenger, I like the Telegram more. 😅 I’m happy that the Philippines is slowly migrating to Telegram or Viber considering that Filipinos love using Facebook & Facebook Messenger 🤢🤮. 😄 For WhatsApp, sadly, not so much compare to Telegram and Viber.

@@europeanunion5765 nah, group chats etc. are unencrypted but direct messages are entirely encrypted and secret chats are end to end encrypted. bit of a difference there

Ovkos

Typical anglo-saxon ignoramus, what do you expect?

He's an interviewer it's his job to guide the conversation. Not to mention this company is based in the UK so you are essentially trading US surveillance for UK surveillance. Big whoop.

He didn't call any of Durov's misdirections about WhatsApp lacking E2EE (End to End Encryption) or Telegram's E2EE option having cross device sync (it has even worse cross device sync problems than WhatsApp).

And bias

Crazy. Laughed really hard at this.

The local Communications Supervision Agency tried to block it without any success. Instead, they banned nearly 20 millions of Amazon and Google IP addresses which are providing some additional advantages to Telegram. As a result, the huge amount of banks, stores and services almost collapsed. Hell, even some government institutions. My friend couldn't be able to receive a scholarship because the transaction just stuck. And the funny thing is that Telegram is still working just fine _without_ any VPN or proxy by using its own bypassing methods. What a pathetic piece of shit our government is, lmao.

if it's such a cool program, how can they block porn content? after all, the keys should not have been only at the users?

don't be naive. it seems to me that this program does not allow confidential correspondence

It's banned. They tried to ban it, but they didn't succeed

Да ни-ху-я, ВПН наше все.

2022 now - WhatsApp still sucks.

2023 now... and nothing has changed

Now is almost 2024 and what's up is still doing so..

Yeah, Durov tends to kick up a lot of dust in the hopes that persuades people Signal/WhatsApp can't be trusted like suggesting that WhatsApp doesn't have E2EE. On the other hand he also points to WhatsApp's lack of cross-device sync without mentioning that the E2EE option in Telegram has even worse problems with this.

@@eldrago19 check the year. WhatsApp didn't have E2E yet. For Telegram's E2E, those chats are not meant to be synced, that's what cloud chats are for. E2E chats are meant to be available only on your phone.

@@existence.5806 because Telegram explicitly markets itself as 'secure' and 'private' while having a system if every time you open the app if you click the wrong button everything you say is stored unencrypted on Telegram's servers.

​@@akhmadjonegamberdieff4249 using WhatsApp as a comparison is setting a low bar but that said I hate the terrible default settings as much as the next person but at least on WhatsApp you can change them globally and permanently ( ssd.eff.org/en/module/how-use-whatsapp-android#2 ). I do think that WhatsApp is also unusable as a secure messenger because it is closed source. If it was open source it would be _usable_ though still a long way from ideal. As for any case of data hacking in Telegram, I find it beyond belief that a UK based company on that scale would not have received a Technical Compatability Notice. Fortunately, very conveniently for Durov, a TCN comes with a gag order so he would be unable to tell you if he had received one and could continue to claim that "Telegram has disclosed exactly zero bytes of user data".

@@Sonico98 fair enough, WhatsApp only had the Signal Protocol on Android and was rolling it out to iOS. However, I still feel it is a little rich to claim that you have cross-device sync and E2EE when it is an either/or choice. (and frankly at this point if you don't have E2EE on everything and you aren't using user data for advertising purposes then what the hell is going on with your company - no you can implement cross-device sync with E2EE, just look at ProtonMail)

Дуров гений, но... ВЕРНИ СТЕНУ!

Он покинул страну, потому что не был согласен с требованиями ФСБ. Как конкретно это задушило в нём талант?

Silly Billy и подучи язык, заодно

Silly Billy Был бы там еще какой-то талант. Интервьюер говорит мол вы создали вконтакте, российский аналог фэйсбука, когда на самом деле Полудуров фактически содрал все у фэйсбука и выдал за свое. Любопытно почему адвокаты Цукерберга не интересуются этим фактом.

и что они смогут сделать?он код содрал?

>> дуров фактически содрал все у фэйсбука и выдал за свое Удобство пользования вконтактом - 10 Удобство ользования фейсбука - 1 Если бы он действительно скопировал фейсбук, то удобство пользования не отличалось бы так сильно. Во вторых интерфейс вообще не похож на фейсбук, функционал тоже. Наверное он скопировал у фейсбука идею соцсети. Ну тогда фейсбук должен предъявить иски всем соцсетям.

Red

Красная

@Libtards Trigger от желтой)))

Green pill= post dove 😂

А можно две?

Alex Nevi только он не наш

@Transgenda Gubament он ненавидит Россию, и сказал что больше никогда не вернется туда

@Damdu Dak думаю если это произойдет то точно не в наше время

@@akzholissaliyev3216 я тоже ненавижу Россию, но россиян я люблю

@@akzholissaliyev3216 он не говорил что ненавидит Россию

Lol😊😁

just becauese he's handsome? hahaha

Ikr ♡♡♡

@Gringo bahahaa

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6 years later: WhatsApp still sucks. xD

Saurabh K yeah really!

I'm crying 😂😂😂👍

Good question. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-txlJTscDt1o.html

Good for him! 👏👏👏

​@@vhffvjmjvddf3050 I just saw the comment and I totally missed this news, in fact my comment was jokingly referring to the numerous russian channels that reposts nsfw sex related pictures and videos, so really thanks for sharing it! I should re-hook on watching more Asian Boss' videos

I think he was talking as a Telegram Representative so from a business perspective is not a good idea. That's all.

+Ammar Mohamed i tough u are gay :D

@Michael Jackson What do you mean?

Michael Jackson imagine shutting down a whole system only because bad people use it as well. Terrorists are also using busses and trains, so we should also shut them down right?

Made in Russia, bro;)

He became Look at his photos when he was a student He was ugly Just did some plastics

@@dont_read_my_nickname 🙄🙄

@@dont_read_my_nickname he didn't have a hair since he had problems with health. But now that his hair has grown much, he looks better. So, hair does all the trick. Regarding everything else, he is the same

u mean tech billionaire

Nah, he s just a bitch

Luke Smith telling him the questions beforehand? That’s a terrible journalist, what planet do you live on?

The literal opposite of journalism wtf

Same here!!! :D

Me too

Telegram does not work correctly

@Steven Falcon I highly doubt it , it is secure as l heard about it .

@Steven Falcon "it's not made by actual cryptographers" that doesn't make any sense to me , famous or actual or you just by actual mean professional ? and do you have any trustworthy link for your claim ?

ikr

🤣🤣

🤦😆😆😆

Не люблю Дудя, но такое интервью бы послушал.

Or the KGB

those 2 are compatible

It's because of the social structure at there ...and no show offs culture

Lol

facts haha

It did, hahahahaha.

How?

qwa-qwa-qwaaaa

I use telegram for 8 month it is fantastic app so bye Bye whats up

@@arabian1730 but most people have whats-app accounts and not telegram so communication becomes much harder . Didn't you face this ?

Fuck WhatsApp

WhatsApp end to end encrypts everything, Telegram does not.

@Siward Beorn IT LIST VIBIR STILL PRIVITE Bro, stop your bullshit. Not even the Signal app has had a better private or vulnerabilities history as Telegram in all of these years.

He is half bald and wearing a wig. Is he still 'the hottest' for you now?

@@NJ-uy9br he had a hair transplant, so yeah he's still a hot guy.

@@skwkql No, he is wearing the wig 😂 and fooling people like ya!

@@NJ-uy9br Dude, beauty is a very subjective thing

@@powpow4754 You must be 'Bald and Beautiful' 🤣

he have to..he's a tech billionaire u know so inorder to communicate with world he have to

Kamilla, Obviously not. I guess you have left that comment to ridicule us, but you have just showed you know nothing about this particular topic. Don’t talk with such confidence about things you clearly know nothing about.

@@minayazdanbin2184 ridicule us? are you serious? i can't tell anyone about my sexuality cuz i can be beheaded. you are telling me there's freedom of speech in iran?

@@finnowens3821 Iran is just a Land, it's the ideology that propagates fanatic conservatism , ban that ideology !!

Even now, 2022.

Fliegenwerkstatt Ironic that Telegram, which incompetently allows scammers to impersonate others and can’t handle simple tasks like showing a reply to someone in a chat, is saying WhatsApp sucks.

Ian Hahaha can't handle simple tasks? Are you using the 2013 version? Telegram is far superior and i stopped using whatsapp just a few months ago, not even a veteran using this app and i couldn't be more satisfied with Telegram, now installing Whatsapp sounds like throwing my cellphone to a garbage can. Technology isn't fashion like clothes, just because you personally prefer something doesn't make it better, you need facts. Whatsapp is limited, slower, and it doesn't matter how much updates they bring, they aren't improving at the same speed that Telegram does, not even close.

Ive had a deeper dive into telegram since this last post and i have to admit that i love it and it is the best out there for combining large scale chats and managing community.

"18 hours ago" lol. It's hilarious to see how someone's opinion changed so radically.

Yeah id say a month deep dive was enough to really know telegram. It's not perfect like it needs better channel organization but leagues beyond Whatsapp and Discord

count me in :D

Both work in very different industries...

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Me lmao

Me

hyleys воистину

Поддерживаю

ты че, не обновил еще?

Таж хрень. На ВСЕХ роликах уже давно новый интерфейс, а этот, кажись, в рот всех еб*л...

доброе утро

Here is twitter.com/2a98ca174b5137f12/status/754577466451046400 а great way tooоo spy frеnds, with this WhatsAAАpр haасk. Pavel Durov оf Тelеgram WhаtsАpp Sucks

писька

I switched over to Wire, I don't know about the best. It was very good but end-to-end encryption not being on by default is a bummer.

@@EricMewhort end-to-end encryption is not compatible with cross platform synchronisation. Nevertheless, you CAN activate end-to-end encryption in Telegram, just use secret chats.

Согласен

absolutely

Тот случай когда в человеке все прекрасно

Стал После пластики

@@dont_read_my_nickname теперь под каждым каментом будешь писать это? Что с тобой не так,

Same here Joel =)