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@ashley_neal
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@fredashay
@fredashay Год назад
I love your videos, but why do *_ALL_* content creators like to create earthquakes in their viewers homes at the end of their videos?!?! It's like you don't want people to watch more than one of your videos, especially if they live in apartments with neighbors! It's not just you. Nearly all content creators do this!!!
@MultiMidden
@MultiMidden Год назад
You missed one: Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
@TheEulerID
@TheEulerID Год назад
I made the same point. Short of bringing your own mobile crane you have to drive on the pavement to park on it.
@out-backer7875
@out-backer7875 Год назад
@Anthony Stafford In which case the the second part of Rule 145 would apply - "except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency". 'Gain' only means you can cross it, not stop on it
@ianl1052
@ianl1052 Год назад
Boo! You beat me to it. 😉🤣🤣🤣
@microcolonel
@microcolonel Год назад
It's not considered "driving" in this circumstance.
@geoffholme
@geoffholme Год назад
Ashley, I love your recordings but this one is a big no, no! For all the people quoting the highway code : It is not a legal document and its rules are not official highway laws. IT IS NOT NOT NOT LAW ! The law is the law! The definition of a road in England and Wales is 'any highway and any other road to which the public has access and includes bridges over which a road passes' ( RTA 1988 sect 192(1)) This INCLUDES THE PAVEMENT ! ANY vehicle on a road causes an obstruction per se ! [even if its moving] If you park on a pavement you commit obstruction, no ifs or buts, its an obstruction and is against the law in England and Wales. If you cannot park your vehicle so as to not allow free passage along a road DON'T PARK, again no ifs and buts or maybe's ITS AGAINST THE REAL LAW not the highway code advice. Go find somewhere else to dump your vehicle
@Blacklab99
@Blacklab99 Год назад
There are too many cars now on UK roads now, and common sense tells you this can’t continue. There will always be people who show little regard for anyone but themselves, who seem to have no awareness of there surroundings when they stop their car. Just wait until the charging leads start crossing the footpaths!
@Crepusculous
@Crepusculous Год назад
Already happened near me. 2 houses have installed exterior power points next to their front doors and stretch a cable across their postage stamp front garden and the pavement.
@WansbeckBikecam
@WansbeckBikecam Год назад
@@Crepusculous ffs. I'd just pull them out and throw them onto the garden out the way
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Год назад
@@Crepusculous I'd get some evidence and complain to your Highways Authority via their website under Obstructions.
@myword1000
@myword1000 Год назад
@@Crepusculous Its only a matter of time before pedestrians start tripping over EV charge cables and then suing for their injuries.
@Goudaisgouda
@Goudaisgouda Год назад
Ashley: if you can’t park safely, find a different space and walk. Drivers: you want me to do what?! Thanks for highlighting this issue. A lot of comes down to driver entitlement and decades of car dependent policy.
@CrazedFandango
@CrazedFandango Год назад
Not all Drivers.
@xTerminatorAndy
@xTerminatorAndy Год назад
The thing I always reflect upon is this: everyone is a pedestrian sooner or later. As soon as I get out of the car and off of my fat arse, I am become a pedestrian. So I always consider being courteous to pedestrians and to myself...
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
"[if not possible] find a different space and walk". I am constantly amazed by the number of fit, healthy people who are apparently incapable of doing this or even considering it. It's almost as if walking 10 or 20 yards is inconceivable for some people.
@tinakerr8163
@tinakerr8163 Год назад
By far the worst offenders we see are the primary school run drivers putting other children at risk.
@RichardWinskill
@RichardWinskill Год назад
With regards to the Highway Code, rule 145 says "You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency." In order to be parking on the pavement one must necessarily have driven on or over it...
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
What legislation does it actually refer to, what does *that* actually say, and what decided cases have refined interpretation of the terms used therein? The HC on its own is NOT definitive.
@katburke115
@katburke115 Год назад
I'm a wheelchair user, and I would love it if a law was brought in to say that you must leave at least 1m of pavement clear for pedestrians/wheelchair users/pushchairs etc. I get that there are some roads where parking partially on the pavement is necessary, but some people definitely take it to extremes!
@simonmoore8776
@simonmoore8776 Год назад
There already is a law prohibiting blocking the pavement. The problem is getting the local authority or the police to do anything about it.
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 Год назад
@@simonmoore8776 A law outright banning it when it when there's such a wide variety of foothpaths, roads, etc isn't the right way to go. If there's a 3+ metre wide footpath then there's nothing actually dangerous with cars using the roadside half of that, when there's no events or whatever on to produce the quantity of pedestrians it was built for. It should be as Kat said, any vehicle partially using the pavement to park should leave at least 1 -1.5 metres (1.5 is what I try to leave when I've done it in the past) at the narrowest point, so wing mirror to lamppost or branch from a hedge, etc, for pedestrians to pass and not force pedestrians to go road-side. With how bad it is in some places, it won't solve the problem, but it might just bring a few round from ignoring the rules altogether and also make it easier to enforce as it would become 1 in 10 cars needing behaviour correcting vs 1 in 2.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 Год назад
@@markwright3161 IT IS dangerous to park on a footway, even if it's wider than others. 50 people a year are killed when motons drive onto the footway, hundreds injured (UK stats), do you think that's acceptable for the sake of motorists convenience??
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 Год назад
@@ynotnilknarf39 Loads of people die in aircraft every year too, that doesn't mean they're not still the safest form of travel or that boarding a plane is a reckless thing to do if you value life. The aircraft either has to crash or they've died of natural causes while on board (more common than you might think). What are the specific conditions those people die in? I think a lot will be the completely legal form of vehicles crossing them to access driveways, etc, so someone reversing onto the road not looking behind them or in a vehicle with huge blindspots, or people who fly down them like their own private slip lane to bypass traffic on the road, which is obviously extremely dangerous. If you look out for pedestrians before mounting the footpath, as you should do before driving across them legally, then proceed with caution when any pedestrians are clear of where you want to go, then there's not the slightest bit of danger present, especially when it's stationary in a suitable position between a sufficient space left for pedestrians and the road, like a nearly 2 metre wide barrier. I've parked on footpaths before, one near a vintage show that had a lot of foot traffic into the town itself (which this section of footpath was linking, the field the show was in and the main street), so a lot of people going back and forth on the path I parked on. I didn't endanger a single person in doing so as I crept onto the path at a dipped portion for a driveway and positioned as far right as possible on the 3+ metre wide footpath so people could walk and even pass each other next to my car well away from the edge of the road. Prams and everything went past, and not 1 of the huge crowds needed to pass on the road, and I was there for a while sitting in the boot of my car filming the vintage vehicles passing on their parade through the town and not 1 pedestrian walked through shot. I wasn't the only car that day. There were probably over 100 cars that drove over or were parked on a footpath that day and yet not a single death or even injury was reported, because everyone drove over or parked on the path at a suitable speed. It's the same as speed. Simply doing 100+ mph in a car on the public roads isn't dangerous. Doing it in the wrong conditions makes it dangerous. Doing 120 mph down an empty straight motorway in the dry with miles of visibility is perfectly safe when the driver is paying attention and the vehicle is suitably maintained. Doing 30 or even 20 mph down a very crowded road in town on a wet dark evening while tired and in a car that got an advisory in its MoT for excessive brake wear is deadly, yet it's a quarter/sixth of the speed and legal. A legal driver who doesn't change their driving to suit the conditions will always be more dangerous than a regularly law breaking driver who does change their driving to suit the conditions. A law breaking driver not driving to the conditions is more dangerous, but it's not because they're actions are illegal that make them so. It's them not driving to suit the conditions to a more significant degree. I could park illegally on a footpath more safely than many legally cross them into driveways, etc. Likewise I could exceed the speed limit, overtake in contravention to road markings and even run red lights perfectly safely in the right conditions, as many emergency response drivers do on a regular basis.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman 11 месяцев назад
It needs rather more than that, since mobility aids can be up to 1.2m wide, and two can meet going passed a row of parked cars. The official guidance in Inclusive Mobility says 2.0m, or 1.5m absolute minimum. The solution is appropriate changes to the law followed by draconian enforcement to break the culture of antisocial parking behaviour having become "acceptable".
@sharnehawkins4702
@sharnehawkins4702 Год назад
Story in Scotland a few months ago where a 90 year old man on a motability scooter had to go into the road cause he couldn't pass a car parked on the pavement but on the way to the road the scooter tipped over and he fell into the road. I'll never get over the laziness of some drivers, unwilling to park somewhere else and walk
@lancethrust9488
@lancethrust9488 9 месяцев назад
LOL STOP BELIEVING THE PROPAGANDA , JUST A STEALTH TAX
@Teeb2023
@Teeb2023 9 месяцев назад
_"I'll never get over the laziness of some drivers, unwilling to park somewhere else and walk"_ I like how you've conveniently ignored the fact that it is literally IMPOSSIBLE for every car in Scotland to park at the roadside. Many households these days have up to three or four cars PER HOUSE now, even if a huge number of house owners have recently converted their front gardens into parking areas. Don't blame drivers for there being utterly inadequate parking on public streets.
@engineeredlifeform
@engineeredlifeform Год назад
"... and if this isn't possible find a different space, and walk." Sound advice, and it's something I do, but witnessing the Zoo that is parking near the entrance of my local supermarket, it seems most people would rather trade paint than walk.
@anishmahadeo5073
@anishmahadeo5073 Год назад
Haha, I always park as far away as possible from the supermarket entrance much to the annoyance of my friends and family
@truthgiver8286
@truthgiver8286 Год назад
It is an offence to drive on to a pavement, contrary to s.72 of the Highway Act 1835 and s.34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988). Rule 145 of the Highway Code states You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency
@marcelwiszowaty1751
@marcelwiszowaty1751 Год назад
Thanks for this one! I can drive but because of where I live I have no need for a car. Therefore I'm a pedestrian for much of the time and some drivers seem determined to park *as close as possible* to the building they wish to visit with no apparent thought for any other road or pavement user. It's very frustrating!
@michaelgoode9555
@michaelgoode9555 Год назад
Excellent video. Perhaps the best bit for me was one way traffic solutions. I am blind and live in a Victorian terrace. The road is wide enough for people to park fully on the road on both sides (although there is one entitled ignoramus who parks his truck at 45 degrees across the pavement) but the result is that two-way traffic is almost impossible. There are 4 parallel roads in this block so it would be easy to introduce a looped one way system pairing the roads which would be safer for everybody. The local authority are simply not interested because this is not the wealthy side of town. They are happy to spend taxpayers money in the leafier suburbs where their voters are but don't give a sh!t about the older parts of town. Poliitics and public service have become divorced bedfellows.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
When considering converting a block of roads like that into a little set of one way roads, you also have to consider the increase in traffic it may cause. In the worst case you can double the amount of traffic on those roads and add several turns (thus increasing risk) to any journey into or out of the block. My road fits exactly the same description as yours, the local council currently have traffic monitoring strips staked out across all the local roads to evaluate the traffic flows to see if a one-way conversion is feasible.
@tarikqirem2870
@tarikqirem2870 Год назад
One way roads also tend to have higher speeds as people know nothing should be coming towards them.
@TheMusicianTom
@TheMusicianTom Год назад
One way streets tend to have higher speed and driver rat run mentality. As a cyclist it’s much nicer having slow traffic behind me.
@sparkycalledmarky
@sparkycalledmarky Год назад
Regarding the rule 242 "contradiction": the pavement is part of the road, thus an unnecessary obstruction of the pavement is an unnecessary obstruction of the road by definition.
@ditch3827
@ditch3827 Год назад
Very true. Black Belt Barrister made that clear in one of his videos
@sahhull
@sahhull Год назад
I like the Japanese take on it. If you want a car. Your proposed parking area will be measured and you can only buy a car that will fit into your space.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
The Japanese can be very pragmatic. Part of the test to upgrade to a larger class of motorcycle licence is to prove that you're physically capable of lifting a motorcycle of that weight class back onto the wheels if it's lying on its side.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
@@markwright3161 What a strange convoluted chain of thought. Motorcycles end up their sides for much more prosaic, much more everyday reasons than earthquakes. Every motorcyclist has had to pick their bike up sometime or another, it comes with the territory.
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 Год назад
@@ianmason. It was a misunderstanding on my part. For some reason the meaning of 'pragmatic' escaped me when replying the first time, and I jumped to assuming you disliked the Japanese's way of doing things. Something about 'The Japanese can be very pragmatic' in response to someone liking their way of doing things made me think you were disagreeing, and I jumped to the first thing different about motorcycle ownership there vs the US or UK or similar where needing to be able to pick up the bike isn't required as part of the test, that would justify that as a test requirement there if you happened to think it wasn't important here (UK for me) where those much more common reasons for picking up your bike are the same. I think it's perfectly logical to need to be able to pick up that class of bike as part of the test, but for whatever reason I overlooked you describing it as such. I've removed my reply because of that. I have no idea what word I was thinking of in place of 'pragmatic' when I skimmed over your reply the first time.
@dominicestelley2168
@dominicestelley2168 Год назад
🤣
@jerrytracey6602
@jerrytracey6602 Год назад
Thanks for clarifying the Scottish situation at the end of this video. I came across a large Merc (of course!) parked almost entirely on the pavement on the opposite side of the road to everyone else, despite there being plenty of space to park normally. My guess is that they wanted to park bang outside the house they were visiting and minimising the distance they had to walk to the front door... 🙄
@CraigNiel
@CraigNiel Год назад
Playing Devils Advocate for a minute, how do you know they didn't have an elderly passenger with health/severe mobility issues that cannot walk far?
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Год назад
@@CraigNiel To me that's what he said 🙂
@timrathbone
@timrathbone Год назад
Is parking a humble 4ft closer to your destination worth it, when you have to force other disabled and elderley people to walk in the road. There are better solutions to helping those with mobility issues that are less shortsighted than blocking a right of way.
@paul756uk2
@paul756uk2 Год назад
Another idiot judging a person by the car they drive.
@bearwynn
@bearwynn Год назад
@@CraigNiel you can come back and move the vehicle, and heaven forbid you use a fold out wheelchair if you need to park a bit further
@g4lna
@g4lna Год назад
You missed one out Ashley, they had to drive on the pavement to actually park. 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
Correct manoeuvre is to not skip leg day and lift your car onto the kerb
@sidwainhouse
@sidwainhouse Год назад
There's a gym near me with a large public carpark on the opposite side of the road yet the gym users feel entitled to park across the pavement forcing pedestrians to walk into the road, there's even parking restrictions shown and duly ignored. At a guess it's often leg day for the gym queens who are unable to walk far after a good session of running in the mirror...
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Год назад
in the US, there are gyms with escalators for patrons to use to get up the front stairs of the gym to go in and walk on the stair climber machine.
@Asto508
@Asto508 Год назад
Should be easy hunting grounds then? Maybe leave a note to your authorities that this is a daily gold mine.
@sidwainhouse
@sidwainhouse Год назад
@@Asto508 too busy hunting down people who said hurty words or misgendered someone on Twitter.
@sidwainhouse
@sidwainhouse Год назад
@@mintywebb why would I need a safe space?
@st200ol
@st200ol Год назад
"Find a different space and walk" LOL. How many drivers who park on the pavement walk more that 30m. 🙂 Also tradesmen and their vans. I get it that they may have some tools to unload but once that's done why not move the van to a more suitable parking place?
@mowcius
@mowcius Год назад
As someone who hates pavement parking, but also tries to do work in a van, that one I can help with. Trade vans are typically absolutely stuffed full of tools and consumables and it's often extremely impractical to attempt to take everything you need onto a site in order to do the work as required. Now I don't park on the pavement, but I do actively avoid work where I cannot park very close to where I'm working. If you're working by yourself on a site that has other people on it or is somewhat accessible to the public, tools and materials are also a lot safer in the van then sat in a pile somewhere. I can very rarely move all of the things I will need onto site in one trip.
@st200ol
@st200ol Год назад
@@mowcius I get that and 100% agree but most tradespeople that I've see working won't even park the van 10m away in a suitable space but chose to park right outside the residence where they are working. How much effort is it to walk 20m to get a length of pipe or cable or whatever? I personally think its a little bit of laziness creeping in but then I'm not a tradesman so what do I know. ;-)
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
I positively cheered my Amazon delivery lass the other week. Parked sensibly in the middle of the street and then walked to and from her van for every delivery on the (approx 100 m long) street. (I was hanging out of the window waiting breathlessly for her to arrive, so I saw her do her whole 'round' on my street.)
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 Год назад
As a wheelchair user I would like say thankyou! It's truly amazing how many will park completely blocking the pavement, or right next to a lamppost so not enough room for me to pass, forcing me into the road, which on busy roads is dangerous for me and frustrating for drivers. Another annoyance is those who insist on parking across the drop kerbs, blocking access to/from pavement.
@04smallmj
@04smallmj Год назад
7:05 that has happened to me a few times on driving lessons. I get my pupil to pull over and someone parks in their "usual" space, blocking the road. Occasionally people get arsey when we're parked in "their" space too... After living in the Netherlands, it's obvious to me that there absolutely are solutions to this, but the government can't be bothered. What they do differently is: 1. They redesign roads where the design no longer meets modern standards (e.g. in my area there are a few roads with absurdly wide pavements but no purpose-built street parking). 2. They design streets to avoid conflict as much as reasonably possible (e.g. making streets one--way, as mentioned in the video). Parking on main roads isn't allowed unless there is properly designed parking that doesn't interfere with any other function of the street. Meeting situations are rare which probably reduces the likelihood of damage to parked cars. Every activity/function of streets usually have their own place, so on a typical main road you'd have car lanes, cycle paths, pavements and parking, all separated to reduce conflict, rather than shared-use everything in this country. 3. They enforce parking rules much more strictly. 4. In areas with very limited parking, resident permit systems are used to control the number of parked cars. 5. New housing developments have purpose-built parking. Some areas even have a surplus of parking. In the UK, most new build estates (at least in my area) only have 1 parking space per house, which clearly doesn't work in a car-centric country. There is rarely proper street parking so it shouldn't be surprising that people park all over the place. 5. There are excellent alternatives to driving to avoid car ownership (including car sharing services such as Greenwheels). Because drivers are used to parking in purpose-built spaces, almost nobody is in the habit of dumping their car wherever they like. My area (Coventry, Nuneaton and Bedworth) is absolutely full of streets with terraced houses and no actual parking spaces, to the point where it's difficult to find cars to practice parallel parking because they're all dumped on the pavement or verge. There are constant meeting situations everywhere. Even my local test centre doesn't have parking spaces so you have to park on the street, blocking half of it.
@emmabird9745
@emmabird9745 Год назад
Not nice for the residents perhaps but what about double yellows up one side? We none of us have a right to park on a specific piece of road like outside our house. I believe that in Tokyo they have laws about not having a car unless you have somewhere off road to park. That would not be popular so no politition is likely to do that. Speaking as a not young pedestrian with a shopping barrow and a council tax payer, pavement parking should be banned even if it means allocating resident parking areas with the consequence of less houses. One last thought, is not driving on the footway unlawful? You have to drive there in order to park there. If it is not unlawful then why can't we cycle on the footway? Whats the difference?
@Lilgoth89
@Lilgoth89 Год назад
i remember walking down a main road where i live, to find a woman pushing a 'side by side' buggy, stuck by a van which had been lazily parked on the pavement, and it was clear with the van half out in the road there was no way her buggy would fit without also being partly in the oncoming lane so i ended up walking out into oncoming traffic in order to stop the flow in both directions so this poor woman could get her buggy past, there were a few angry honks of the horn and shouted abuse from the drivers aimed at me until they saw what i was doing and even then one idiot on a moped decided to simply overtake everything stationary and blaze past us putting the woman, her kids and myself at risk , but once she was safely past everyone went about their day. but for one moment i held up one of the busiest roads in my city inconveniencing dozens of people, just because some inconsiderate driver had plonked his van on the pavement
@Asto508
@Asto508 Год назад
Do you have a way to report such incidents to the authorities? In my city, you can actually take a photo with an app, provide a brief description and send it via the app to the respective authority which will then, if you're lucky, take care of it since they are understaffed and cannot be everywhere, but highlighting certain issues makes their work more effective. It's bad to report any minor irrelevancy, but for cases like yours, whoever parked the van there should be punished tbh.
@georgedavis-stewart4225
@georgedavis-stewart4225 Год назад
I tend to regard side-by-side pushchairs as a bit of a liberty as far as other pedestrians are concerned; using a wide pushchair is a demonstration of unrealistic expectations on your average urban pavement, even if it does mean that you are not favouring one child or dog over the other.😉
@andrewrobertson4878
@andrewrobertson4878 Год назад
One cannot drive on a pavement unless it is to gain lawful access, a driveway for example, so how does one park on a pavement without illegally driving onto a pavement?
@chrisgale5634
@chrisgale5634 Год назад
So many people drive over kerbs to access parking on their drives where they have paved over their front gardens. It causes damage long term which comes out of council budgets.
@ditch3827
@ditch3827 Год назад
@@chrisgale5634 But at least that is legal while driving on the pavement in order to park on the pavement is illegal.
@R8V10
@R8V10 Год назад
My pet peeve is cars parking right next to you in a public car park say a supermarket, after I have intentionally parked miles away from the entrance in an empty car park to avoid door damage, trolly damage etc, only to find a car parked right next to me!
@eddieingalls534
@eddieingalls534 Год назад
Humans often exhibit basic animal traits - we are a bit like lemmings in this situation and feel safer when with others. It is weird but many drivers will see your car and subconsciously feel you must have found something good in the area you park in, so they will join you.
@bofor3948
@bofor3948 Год назад
@@eddieingalls534 Ornothological species of identical plumage congregate in the closest proximity or Birds of.........
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
Looking at the bigger picture, it's interesting to note how drivers often get upset at pedestrians crossing the road in front of them (particularly at side streets and even with the new HC changes). And yet, drivers have no qualms about taking up pavement space that's supposed to be reserved for pedestrians. Drivers, you can't have it both ways! And aren't all drivers pedestrians at some point?
@tony_w839
@tony_w839 Год назад
but drivers are special and entitled to drive anywhere, at any speed and park anywhere. sarcasm alert
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
@@tony_w839 Of course Tony! And yes I recognized the sarcasm right away. Are you also a driver btw? (Purely also sarcasm!) 😀
@robg521
@robg521 Год назад
It is also worth noting that the construction of the roads and footpaths are different in order to take the weight and stress for the intended traffic. In general the main carriageway is designed to carry the full weight of Cars and large lorries. The footpath on the side of the road is not built to the same standard and is only designed to accept the weight of pedestrian traffic. …. So if you ask you local council to put in a drop kerb to allow you to drive onto your driveway they should also dig up the footpath and build it to a stronger design to allow for the extra weight of your car. This is to stop you crushing the electric cables and gas pipes that are laid under the Footway. [in effect the Footway is converted into a drive way entrance] …. So when you see cars bumped up onto the Footway they are technically damaging the Footway. but in most cases the extra weight of the odd car won’t make much difference. It is when you see a large truck or lorry on the footpath that is of a real concern. …. But saying that… [6:10 in this vid you can see a BT manhole] The manhole covers in footpath are not designed to accept the weight of any vehicle whatsoever, so you if you park with your wheel on one of these you could break it and cause the manhole cover to collapse. … So if there is a manhole outside where you want to put a new driveway, they will either have to move the manhole to the side or replace the cover with a reinforced type designed to accept the weight of heavy traffic.
@klapiroska4714
@klapiroska4714 Год назад
There is no silver bullet, that would fix the problem immediately, but there are solutions that can be implemented slowly. There are 3 main actions that are all part of the solution 1. Reduce the need for on-street parking. This boils down to couple of different things. Most people, that need a car, should have their own space (on their driveway or garage). This is possible in most suburban and urban settings, but not everywhere. There are reasons why on-street parking is needed, like parking space for visitors, or not having a driveway or parking garage nearby while needing a car for work. But if you have a driveway or garage, keep your cars there. Garages and driveways are for storing cars, not other stuff. 2. More efficient use of space. Could the street be one way street, eliminating the need for passing places? Could you permit parking only on one side of the road? Could you build dedicated passing places, and have rest of the road with parking on 1 or both sides? Would it be better to have 1 unobstructed sidewalk instead of 2 obstructed ones? 3. Reduce the need for car use/ownership. Do you really need 3 cars, or could you get away with 2 or even 1. Offering alternative means of transportation (cycling, public transit etc.) reduces the need for car ownership in general, thus lowering the need for parking. Most people don't own a car, because they like them. Most people will use the most convenient transport option available, and it doesn't matter wether it's a car, bike, bus, train or their own feet. Also, building future developements in a way, where people in general have shorter trips to work, shops, school etc. will also reduce the need for car ownership and parking. None of these can be done overnight, but they can be done as the roads are resurfaced. Opposition to change should be weak, if the change benefits all parties. As a personal note, if I know that I need a car for my work or lifestyle, I make sure I have a dedicated space for it either on my driveway or garage. Lucily, where I live, parking on the pavement is illegal, and most people keep cars on their property.
@lancethrust9488
@lancethrust9488 9 месяцев назад
ITS NOT EVEN A PROBLEM BUT THE LIBERAL LEFTISTS WANT IT TO BE
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
At 6:02, the Mondeo Estate parked taking up that much pavement and at an angle like that is unbelievably lazy. I'm not sure if the situation with adjacent cars was different when they arrived to what's in the video but either way, absolutely no excuse to park in such a lazy selfish way.
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 Год назад
No excuse, period. If your car is too big to park there, you don't park there. In the US, that sucker would have been towed away within an hour.
@stevie-ray2020
@stevie-ray2020 Год назад
Australian authorities here in our cities like Sydney have it all sorted out with signs designating where you can't park & where you can, especially in the inner suburbs with narrow streets (usually made one-way with either parking limited to one side, or none at all). Parking on footpaths is illegal for the reasons you described, & is enforced by police, parking-officers, & council-rangers, providing a good source of revenue from the mugs who choose to flaunt the rules (usually because they're to lazy to walk)!
@johnnevada46
@johnnevada46 Год назад
Pavement parking is usually a form of bullying. The victims are the weakest in society (the old, children, and the disabled) and the bullies are those able to afford and drive a car.
@lancethrust9488
@lancethrust9488 9 месяцев назад
LOL NOBODY CARED INTHE 50S , 60S, 70S, 80S , 90S , 00S , BUT NOW ITS SUDDENLY A PROBLEM , A PROBLEM THEY CAN TAX
@leesullivan1916
@leesullivan1916 Год назад
As a wheelchair user you can imagine my views on this... Parking on the pavement is not the same as blocking a pavement..... Not far from my home people park 50/50 that's fine I can fit.... Till they don't consider the massive telegraph pole also on the pavement (reduced width) ect. And yes I have been wedged before now because I could fit going into the gap but because the vehicle was not parked straight then you can guess the rest... So please THINk or WALK that extra 10 feet.
@kuto608
@kuto608 6 месяцев назад
There's a bit of a sheep mentality as well in this country, some roads people just park on the road, whilst others park on the pavement even when the road is like 30 feet wide and if someone does either one, others do the same.
@ZachAsaD
@ZachAsaD Год назад
As a driver I’m not parking my car on a pavement because I don’t want it damaged. If someone completely blocks the pavement they deserve to have their car keyed same with those assholes that park on dropped kerbs blocking people’s drive
@David_D.
@David_D. Год назад
I completely agree, 100%. 👏🏻👏🏻
@johncranna
@johncranna Год назад
Be careful doing this or even suggesting it, as it is criminal damage to key a car.
@Mikej1592
@Mikej1592 Год назад
In Japan and several cities in America it is actually illegal to park on any residential street. And especially in Japan, if you don't have a garage, or parking pad, covered driveway off the road you are not even permitted to purchase a vehicle unless you can prove you have someone to store it. People around where I live, not only don't park on the sidewalk, they park 1 to 2 feet away making the road VERY narrow to pass. and no one does anything about it. There is also a law here that you can't leave your vehicle parked for more than 72 hours, and any neighborhood with an HOA will enforce that rule with impunity. Even if the garages built these days are too short to park most vehicles, while claiming its a 2 car garage. Yeah maybe if you owned 2 VW Beetles.
@ShedTV
@ShedTV Год назад
With local councils and police forces massively underfunded, it doesn't really matter what's advisory, illegal, dangerous or selfish. With little chance of being caught and penalised, many people seem do whatever they like on the roads these days.
@Sp4mMe
@Sp4mMe Год назад
It's the sorta thing you don't think too much of until you're ever about with somebody in a wheelchair. Then frankly you just want to dynamite half the cars for how thoughtless and selfish the drivers clearly were ...
@SBKPete
@SBKPete Год назад
I live in a cul-de-sac which has a very narrow road and there’s a couple of large Mercedes works Sprinter vans, that park on the pavement. They’re a bloody nuisance 🤬
@n4ht4n80
@n4ht4n80 Год назад
Where do you want them to park if it’s a narrow road?
@David_D.
@David_D. Год назад
@@n4ht4n80 In a different street is the obvious answer.
@n4ht4n80
@n4ht4n80 Год назад
@@David_D. ridiculous
@David_D.
@David_D. Год назад
@@n4ht4n80 What is?
@Zatnicatel
@Zatnicatel Год назад
@@n4ht4n80 Many years ago I lived in a street in London where parking was so bad I often had to park one or two streets away. So why can't people do that now?
@frogandspanner
@frogandspanner Год назад
*Obstructing the Highway* Highway Act (HiA) 1980 §137: “Penalty for wilful obstruction. (1) If a person, without lawful authority or excuse, in any way wilfully obstructs the free passage along a highway he is guilty of an offence and liable to [F1imprisonment for a term not exceeding 51 weeks or] a fine [F2or both].” The footway is part of the Highway, so to prevent free flow along the footway is to obstruct the highway.This amounts to a MUST. HiA 333: "No provision of this Act relating to obstruction of or other interference with highways is to be taken to affect any right of a highway authority or other person under any enactment not contained in this Act, or under any rule of law, to remove an obstruction from a highway or otherwise abate a nuisance or other interference with the highway, or to affect the liability of any person under such an enactment or rule to proceedings (whether civil or criminal) in respect of any such obstruction or other interference.". Common Law nuisance (see, for example _Pratt and Mackenzie’s Law of Highways_ ) applies to _actual_ obstruction, so if you obstruct the footway your vehicle may be towed away. The law trumps Highway Code (HC) _shoulds_ . Laws are logical unions, so just because one law does not expressly make something an offence does not mean another does not. So, Road Traffic Act 1988 §22 (referred to in HC242) does not give permission to contravene HiA 1980 §137 on obstructing the Highway. Just because London has created a special law making it explicit that footway parking is illegal does not imply it is legal in the rest of the country. And just because you cannot find somewhere legal to park that you deem (personally consider) suitable does not give permission to obstruct the highway. The comment 1:55 ". . . the pavement is the only place to park without obstructing the carriageway . . ." is wrong - it assumes a right which does not exist in law. 7:50 gives an example where “any vehicle that's not parked on the pavement partially would not leave enough room for any other vehicle to pass on the road.” It is an offence to park on the road as it would obstruct the highway, and it is also an offence to park on the footway as it would obstruct the highway. But, we can see vehicles parked off road in such a way that there is no obstruction to the highway - so the suggestion that the only solution is footway parking is clearly false. 8:02 There is a suggestion that parking on the footway (and obstructing pedestrians) is better than obstructing vehicles. PEDESTRIANS COME FIRST. We are all pedestrians, or assisted pedestrians (e.g. wheelchairs) at some point, and only motorists for short periods of our lives. In any case - both obstructions are equally illegal. *Driving on the Footway* It is illegal to drive on the footway (except to access property) as laid down in Highway Act 1835: “LXXII Penalty on Persons committing Nuisances by riding on Footpaths, &c ; by injuring the Road ; by damaging Banks, Causeways, Direction Posts, Milestones, &c. ; by making Fires ; by baiting Bulls ; by laying Timber, &c. ; by running of Filth. “And be it further enacted, That if any Person shall wilfully ride upon any Footpath or Causeway by the Side of any Road made or set apart for the Use or Accommodation of Foot Passengers ; or shall wilfully lead or drive any Horse, Ass, Sheep, Mule, Swine, or Cattle, or Carriage of any Description, or any Truck or Sledge upon any such Footpath or Causeway ; or shall tether any Horse, Ass, Mule, Swine, or Cattle on any Highway, so as to suffer or permit the tethered Animal to be thereon ; or shall cause any Injury or Damage to be done to the said Highway, … “ *Solutions* There _are_ solutions to this: obey the law, do not drive on the footway, and do not obstruct the footway. If you cannot park close to home then find somewhere else to park, or see how you can change your life to live it without a car. I am also appalled that at 8:46 AN, a driving instructor, advises on how best to drive illegally on the footway.
@scottlaaa
@scottlaaa Год назад
My son is in an electric wheelchair pavement parking is a nightmare we can be walking to the park and we need to cross using zebra crossing’s, but unfortunately due to pavement parking this makes it extremely difficult. There’s not enough dropped kerbs so we can safely get around these vehicles, and with his chair being slow due to him being 2 that increases the danger because we are in the road longer. I’ve also reported this problem to the council and police but it’s fallen on deaf ears, I genuinely don’t know what to do?
@Asto508
@Asto508 Год назад
Well, you can go full vigilante and let your son accidentally bump the cars when nobody is watching, some of them might learn in the process. If your local police doesn't care, they won't care about that either probably.
@scottlaaa
@scottlaaa Год назад
@@Asto508he’s already good at that he crashed into my bmw the other day and instead of going backwards he kept it forwards wheel spinning against it 😂
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 Год назад
In the US, there are sometimes residential roads that are narrow, and we usually ban parking on one side of the street. This allows traffic to flow and still allow adequate parking. Of course, we never allow parking up on the pavement/sidewalk or parking against the flow of traffic.
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
It's rather a pain when I'm out running to have people pavement park. The 'door zone' still applies so it breaks your tempo to have people park inconsiderately.
@keithcolman9868
@keithcolman9868 Год назад
Oh dear.
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
@@keithcolman9868 they're rarely a problem, even in woodland runs.
@keithcolman9868
@keithcolman9868 Год назад
@CycleCam doesn't quite compare to disabled issues does it. You have plenty of alternatives.
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
@@keithcolman9868 did I make any comparison?
@jasonk7072
@jasonk7072 Год назад
@@keithcolman9868It’s very rare for a person with a disability to park on the pavement as they are one of the cohorts most at risk from such behaviour. Regardless of that a Blue Badge doesn’t give you the right to park wherever you please either, despite how it may appear. This doesn’t apply to those who have disabled their ability to think of anyone other than themselves of course.
@chrisrand5185
@chrisrand5185 Год назад
I think it becomes habit for some people who always park with two wheels on the pavement even where there is plenty of width in the carriageway.
@125brat
@125brat Год назад
You're right because some lorry, van and car drivers seem to do it when they park in a layby. Most seem to park with their wheels up on the kerb for absolutely no reason other than it being just a bad habit they've got in to.
@jondavies8870
@jondavies8870 Год назад
One thing that people seem to forget is that the “road“ that you’re not allowed to obstruct includes the pavement. That’s part of the roadway too. You’re not allowed to obstruct it, by law.
@MrKJDavies
@MrKJDavies Год назад
Glad you brought this up, I was walking home from work just before Christmas and a delivery driver down the road decided the best place he could park his Transit van was right on the path blocking it completely, so when I got to the van I shouted him over and politely asked him to move it, to which he replied "I'll only be 5 minutes" I wasn't going to wait so I told him to move it or I'll be walking over it. Not impressed with what I said he responded with "walk over it and I'll knock you out" but as soon as I heard walk over it I got straight to it, jumping onto his bonnet and then casually walked over his roof.. I could have walked around it sure, but why should I have to walk into a busy road because some selfish idiot??
@WarrenF
@WarrenF Год назад
That’s just petty
@MrKJDavies
@MrKJDavies Год назад
@@WarrenF He could have parked semi on the path and not on it completely, allowing people to get past without having to walk into a busy road.. The person he was delivering to obviously wasn't going anywhere so why should I have to wait for him to move in 5 mins?? ..As it was stated in the video drivers SHOULD NOT park on the pavement and I gave him the opportunity to move it before climbing/walking over it, but drivers seem to think their entitled to way more than they actually are so it's a lesson learn for him, you can call it what you want ^^
@TheMusicianTom
@TheMusicianTom Год назад
Use your common sense for pete’s sake
@MrKJDavies
@MrKJDavies Год назад
@@TheMusicianTom yeah be nice if drivers did that wouldn't it..
@Haggisking
@Haggisking Год назад
"Find a different space, and walk". Fantastic advice, and would also help the obesity problem in the UK. There's a community centre on my road, and needless to say, people attending various groups & events all park as close as possible, even if that means double parking, on the pavement, parking right on the corner and blocking residents' driveways; I've had to contact them a few times to get someone to move their car. One of the nights they host is for a weight watchers type group... ;)
@Matthew-bu7fg
@Matthew-bu7fg Год назад
I can safely say I would not want to be a wheelchair used in today's day and age. I cannot imagine the difficulties they must sometimes face simply for wanting to have a wander in their local area.
@phantasmaleye3879
@phantasmaleye3879 Год назад
'I would not want to be a wheelchair' 😅
@leesullivan1916
@leesullivan1916 Год назад
Thank you
@Badger-w8u
@Badger-w8u Год назад
Ash , If the road is like you say with one parked 2 wheels on the pavement , otherside cars in the curb , the road NEEDS to be made ONE way ! I have the same where I live ..
@tednruth453
@tednruth453 Год назад
In order to park on a pavement a vehicle is (albeit for a short duration) being driven on a pavement, according to the law this must not be done. So there you go, that's another dilemma.
@MauriceFrazer
@MauriceFrazer Год назад
Another thing that motorists should think about when parking in residential areas, is access for emergency services.
@ronmac9522
@ronmac9522 Год назад
I use a mobility scooter and face this on a daily basis. Especially from shop owners who park their cars fully on the pavement. I have begun to take photos and send in to parking officers. I will continue to do so as it is totally unsafe for me to drive on pavement. So if your parking on a pavement leave room for us disabled people and people with prams.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Год назад
Are you in London or one of the other places where the local authority can enforce - and do they, or have you had success in getting enforcement done by the police? I'm currently trying to find out if I can get enforcement on this locally by supplying video evidence to the County Council where I see outrageous cases, but I've still got to work out the process, and whether they will be willing. It is I think outside the scope of the police Operation SNAP.
@ronmac9522
@ronmac9522 Год назад
@@mattwardman I am in Oldham
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Год назад
@@ronmac9522 Do they enforce when you complain? I hope so. There may be potential (I don't know anyone who has tried) for using the Equality Act 2010 for this, as the local Council provided pavement is a 'service' and they have a duty in law not to discriminate, but also a pro-active duty to promote equality. Various people and groups have been successful in removing anti-wheelchair barriers from trails and public footpaths, and I don't see why it could not be applied to the requirement for unobstructed pavements. Typically on a public footpath something is identified as a barrier to 'stop motorbikes', which in practice do not stop motprbikes, but *do* stop mobility scooters and so on. Now when designing paths the "design vehicle" (ie what should fit) is 2.3m long by 1.2m wide, and the worst barrier should be bollards with a spacing of 1.5m.
@salamander5703
@salamander5703 Год назад
I have a theory that pavement parking started with cars getting alloy wheels and low profile tyres. Before you could rub the tyres on the kerb when parking without problems, but alloys get ground up if you misjudge it. So people started putting two wheels on the pavement to save their alloys. Over the years I have noticed they park further and further on to the pavement to protect their cars from passing traffic. It's now so bad near me that cyclists are having to go back on the road because they can't get through on the pavement any more!
@cargy930
@cargy930 Год назад
The irony of this is that so many drive up the kerb too fast and knock their tracking out of alignment or (worse), or even distort their alloy wheel! I'd like to see a nationwide ban on (unauthorised) pavement parking, but it'll never happen because it would lose elections.
@MrCHrisfj
@MrCHrisfj Год назад
Unless the pavement is signed as both pedestrian and cycleway the cyclists shouldn't be on the pavement anyway so the cars parked on the pavement are only forcing them to go where they should be On the other hand that probably also means that pedestrians are also having to walk in the road to get past the inconsiderately parked car which could be very dangerous if a car coming down the road doesn't see them in time to react safely.
@Zatnicatel
@Zatnicatel Год назад
But cyclists (over the age of 10) aren't allowed to ride on the pavement anyway
@johnguidetti5839
@johnguidetti5839 Год назад
Cyclists are not meant to ride on the pavement.
@MultiMidden
@MultiMidden Год назад
Controversial but perhaps we could learn from Japan? There it's basically no parking space = no car. We could have: residents on street parking = 1 car, driveway for 1 car and room for on-street parking = 2 cars, single car driveway on a narrow road = 1 car etc.
@cargy930
@cargy930 Год назад
I agree, but no party would go for that as it's political harakiri for any party trying to introduce it.
@Zatnicatel
@Zatnicatel Год назад
Great idea if public transport is increased to cope...
@jaycee330
@jaycee330 Год назад
But to compensate, Japan's public transport is second to none. UK cannot even compare.
@bestintheworld568
@bestintheworld568 Год назад
Where I live, the house opposite mine is owned by a professional football club and new signings live there until they're settled in the area. One of them often parks on the pavement outside my front door and I would regularly get notes from an unknown neighbor asking me to move the car (which wasn't mine anyway as I already have a driveway) but at first I'd ignore them...until my partner arrived home from work and the neighbor confronted her, demanding she move the car, refusing to listen to reason when he was told it wasn't ours. Now we know who this person is, we realised the only reason he was angry that the car was on the pavement was because he couldn't park on the pavement on the opposite side of the road, meaning he had to walk an extra 15m to his house 🤦‍♂
@Asto508
@Asto508 Год назад
Usually, the people that get angry like that about other people parking badly are the same people that are parking badly themselves. If two of those meet, then you have an epic shouting battle on the street.
@bofor3948
@bofor3948 Год назад
My daughter uses a wheelchair to get about and pavement parking is the bane of her life. The other thing that grinds is the number of ablebodied drivers that use disabled parking bays. "I'll only be a minute" in which time the disabled driver has had to park further away in a narrow bay.
@mikesheldon1957
@mikesheldon1957 Год назад
Ashley you seem to forget to mention the following motoring law: You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency. So if you have parked on a pavement you have broken the law to do so, and driving back off it to go onto the road is also an illegal. If the road is not wide enough for you to be able to park your car legally then you shouldn't park in that road - no argument.
@MrJinxmaster1
@MrJinxmaster1 4 месяца назад
In some cases I've heard of councils buying part of the front gardens of houses in order to widen the road/pavement (lots of front gardens are just ugly patios that need cleaning and are used for nothing) Another solution I've seen is to reduce a road to a single pavement on one side so that houses on the other side exit by crossing (usually works best in low traffic volume roads) An example of both is here (52°30'19.5"N 3°58'43.1"W) where as you can see one side of the road is missing their pavement and the other is missing most of their front garden. With this sacrifice the road is wide enough to accommodate two lanes and further along even two directional traffic with street parking (non-hgv).
@andymcpandy2128
@andymcpandy2128 Год назад
There are a fair few roads in London that have signposted/marked pavement parking, some full vehicle, some straddling. But these are an exception and are always clearly marked. Clean Air/No idling areas are one to be aware of. Nearly got stung a couple years ago on a crazy hot day at work...went out to van to cool down with AC...5 mins later, a little tap on the window from a very angry looking warden (who turned out to be lovely). She explained the rules and was very understanding and shared a quick laugh about the paradox of me having to now keep driving round the block for my break. (I fully agree with the clean air zones, I was simply oblivious that day).
@silke8077
@silke8077 Год назад
I remember me and my auntie who uses a walker nearly got ran over on the pavement cause a woman wanted to park right outside the tan shop and they put up poles to stop people from doing that, so she just tried to drive right into us like we were in the wrong.
@Nodster
@Nodster Год назад
I have to say that when it comes to pavement parking in permiited areas in London the majority that I have seen have been well planned with plenty of space for pedestrians too for the most part, parking fees not so much but each council to their own :D The council for our area go street to street to look at cleanliness of front gardens, drives and parking and will knock on the door if there is an issue that needs putting right like parking on the pavements in front of houses (not seen them do this in quite a while but it is a big area covering the whole borough). A little ironic really considering the road I live on has dedicated parking around the corner for anyone to use and it is always empty go figure and every house has a drive, even when the parking bays are full the road where the parking bays are is wide enough to park down one side without being on the pavement. I guess it is just the height of laziness to walk the extra few step to get to the front door than it is to park outside their house on the pavement.
@artemkatelnytskyi
@artemkatelnytskyi Год назад
Unfortunately, there are far more cars than cities can cope with. So the only solution, that could help with the situation a little bit, is developing and incentivising public transport to remove the need for people to own a car. However, as far as I'm aware, public transport is pretty decent in the UK anyway. So the residential roads are probably going to be filled with cars forever.
@cargy930
@cargy930 Год назад
Transport in the Uk is far from "decent"! It may be excellent in London and the bigger cities but, for the rest of us, one bus a day doesn't cut it.
@weevilinabox
@weevilinabox Год назад
Public transport is decent? A quick check on Google Maps shows that I could drive to my nearest city, Cambridge, in 33 minutes. The same journey by public transport takes 1h 22m. But because today is Sunday, the earliest it will get me there is 07:33 tomorrow. It's quicker to cycle, with a journey time of 1h 12m. That increases to 1h 36m if I only use safer cycle routes (which, coincidentally, follow the same route as public transport and take only 14 minutes longer).
@artemkatelnytskyi
@artemkatelnytskyi Год назад
@@weevilinabox I'll be honest, my comment about the quality of transport wasn't really backed by any knowledge or prior experience, I was just assuming. Thank you for the heads up. In that case my comment stands, that it is necessary to develop public transport and give people options for travel. And it will help with much more than just street parking, but I don't think I need to be telling you that. As it turns out, the UK is quite car centric. Would that be true? Not quite as much as some places, but still.
@LarkspeedNL
@LarkspeedNL Год назад
There are far too many selfish drivers on the road that only care about their own convenience and couldn't care less how it impacts anyone else.
@roxdude
@roxdude Год назад
It should be that you are allowed only if you leave enough room for a double buggy and as you say many streets being made one way would help as would clear markings. Then theres hgvs they do alot of damage to the pavement but need to deliver goods or get into somewhere tight. No easy solution and a complete bad isn't the answer for many areas.
@patrickh7368
@patrickh7368 Год назад
Rule 244 is Shocking wording in my view as the “pavement” is the part of the road we drive on, the part we walk along is a “footway” so how would the law read that if brought to courts 🤷🏻‍♂️
@1over137
@1over137 Год назад
I have a driveway. I used it. So many people don't and prefer to park on the pavement outside the house. I believe a lot of this is down to people avoiding reversing in or out of the driveway. My advise would be, don't avoid it, do it, do it everyday and in not too long you will wonder why you were afraid of reversing. My 5yo daughter used to struggle to get out of the car in the drive because of the wall on the passenger side. So I parked on the street a few times while I had her. In October the neighbour across from me, reversed out of her drive way straight into the side of my 5yo GT86Pro. Smashing in the drivers rear quarter panel. Took 12 weeks to get it fixed. I'd hate to see the bill on the insurance for that, I'm figuring £4-8k.
@drunkenhobo5039
@drunkenhobo5039 Год назад
7:50 - I live in an area that's even narrower than this and all of the surrounding streets are the same. Good to see someone acknowledge that in some cases it's genuinely impossible not to park on the pavement. Occasionally people visiting the area cause utter chaos by parking "legally" and blocking the entire street.
@chriscurran6216
@chriscurran6216 Год назад
The important & very good point (for me) that you make is "some cases", I think an honest analysis of the majority of pavement parking would consider in most cases that it isn't. As an example, the principal road near me is a bus route, its wide enough to allow two buses pass in opposite directions even if folks don't drive onto the pavement and leave their car's there - but they do. The result, not in all cases but in many, is a narrowing of the pavement and impeding effective use by wheelchair users & folks pushing buggies, its just a bad habit and inconsiderate.
@joegrey9807
@joegrey9807 Год назад
Part of the problem is that so many drivers think that they MUST park outside their house, and that they have an inalienable right to do so. I frequently can't park on my road, or even within a couple of hundred metres. It's a nuisance, but it is my problem. Making it a problem for pedestrians or fire engines is not the answer. Another problem is that cars are a foot or so wider now than they were 30 years ago, many roads that were wide enough for parking and cars to pass in opposite directions aren't any more as 4ft has been lost to extra metal. And people complain about cyclists taking up space...
@clivewilliams3661
@clivewilliams3661 Год назад
@6:00 The space left on the pavement was about 1500mm, which coincidentally is the minimum distance prescribed for two wheelchairs to pass and is the footpath width required from disabled parking up to the entry point in a building so that I would say that most cars parked reasonably but the black car did not. Parking on the pavement is in most cases a pragmatic solution although sometimes prohibited by law. The law unfortunately cannot account for all circumstances so in many cases it is counter productive. Many Victorian terraced streets barely have enough room to allow a car to pass between two rows of parked cars even on one way streets. the pavement widths can be only up to 1.5m wide that is technically insufficient for two passing wheelchairs but a constricted pavement can still work with a little inconvenience to the pedestrians if cars are allowed to park on the pavement. Pavement parking must be controlled to prevent abuse so that as on the continent a white line on the pavement defines the allowable parking zone and woe betide anyone parking over it. Keeping streets open for the emergency services is vital an since it is unlikely that they will use smaller vehicles for specific locations then their movement must be accounted for. We also need to accept that unless we ban car ownership in some areas parking cars is always going to need to be catered for. Pedestrians, cars, emergency vehicles and delivery trucks all have to be accommodated and within the physical constraints a compromise has to be reached with the least problem for all those users. One radical option could be that properties on affected streets could be demolished and carking courts could be created for residents and visitors cars.
@johnbower7452
@johnbower7452 Год назад
I know mum always said that if you couldn't park off the road (ie up the front of your house or in a garage) you shouldn't have a car at all, as wise as she was I always felt that a little harsh; especially now that I know people who need a car to be able to get out. I'm lucky now in that I do rent a garage so my car is off road locked up behind locked gates too.
@lizzieburgess674
@lizzieburgess674 Год назад
It may well be true that the only way to park a car without impeding the flow of traffic is to park on the pavement. HOWEVER it is also true that legitimate pavement users impede the flow of traffic themselves when they are forced to walk slowly in the road by selfish, lazy, inconsiderate and ignorant operators of silly metal boxes-on-wheels. We get aggressively beeped, threatened and yelled at by those drivers who consider we should not be walking on 'their' road - while these same drivers beep, threaten and yell at us if we are using the pavement when they want to drive onto it. Talk about damned if we do and damned if we don't! In many areas, the pavements are barely wide enough to be used safely by a single pushchair or wheelchair even before a car or other vehicle gets anywhere near it, and surfaces are often appalling trip hazards for anyone with the slightest mobility problem. A stringently-enforced rule (with mandatory, prompt towing!) that a specified minimum width of unobstructed pavement MUST remain if it is to be used for parking would still permit pavement parking in areas where the pavements are genuinely wide enough for it to not be an issue which causes difficulty for others. I was a driver myself for almost 50 years, so I am not unsympathetic to the parking problems and frustrations faced by many people. However, frustration over parking problems should NEVER be allayed by putting others in danger purely for one's own selfish personal convenience.
@therealrobpreston1086
@therealrobpreston1086 Год назад
A lot of people don't care, Councils and police can't be bothered. It's only gonna get worse.
@WansbeckBikecam
@WansbeckBikecam Год назад
What, about rule Rule 145. You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency.?
@henryginn7490
@henryginn7490 Год назад
You gave a solution at the end - find another space. I'd like to suggest another - if it is an area you need to get to regularly and there is no place to park reasonably, then you should not drive there.
@burgersnchips
@burgersnchips Год назад
I'll get started building that teleporter everyone keeps talking about. 😂
@iallso1
@iallso1 Год назад
There is a solution that has been used in Christchurch, that is to mark the limit of the parking space on the footpath, ensuring that so long as the vehicle is not parked beyond the marking sufficient space is retained for pedestrian traffic, while maximising the road width for moving traffic. I do like the idea of one-waying narrow residential street, that also helps reduce the traffic using this type of road as a rabbit run.
@ianmason.
@ianmason. Год назад
London streets where pavement parking is officially signposted usually (not not always) have white lines on the pavement to mark the limit of the permissible parking area.
@Dr3Mc3Ninja
@Dr3Mc3Ninja Год назад
For me, it is context of the traffic flow, time of day and what sort of area it is. Industrial areas aren't often going to have visually-impaired people walking around, but a major high street? Absolutely.
@joegrey9807
@joegrey9807 Год назад
In some cases this can be managed better. Near where I am a pavement was signed as a shared use (cycle/pedestrian) path, but historically cars parked partially on it because the road is busy and only just wide enough for two buses to pass if cars were parked wholly on the road. By marking out parking bays on the road to show that the road is wide enough and shift the virtual lanes slightly further away from the pavement, the vast majority of cars do now park wholly on the road. Obviously this only works where there is space in the first place.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
This whole practice of pavement parking has become more widespread over time as cars have continued to get wider, plus car ownership has increased, requiring more curbside space to accommodate all those extra vehicles that households now own. In terms of car size, it's interesting to note that the current VW Polo is bigger than the original Golf. Ditto for the latest Ford Fiesta and original Focus. Plus we have so many more folks owning SUV's here in the UK now. Even folks who have a garage can't often fit their cars in or prefer to have their garage purely for storage or converted into some kind of living space.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Год назад
it is an interesting thing to note that the friends we visit in the UK drive a large wagon, which is actually smaller than the small wagon we own.
@Asto508
@Asto508 Год назад
Yep, car size is the main reason. In my city, there is also the trend to even get vans after SUVs are still not big enough. I know of a family who literally owns 2 VW transporters in addition to the women's ford focus (guy working at VW I guess) and while they have an underground parking lot, they are too lazy and put them on the streets most of the time, blocking 3-4 spaces. The new EV trend is making it even worse too.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
@@kenbrown2808 Yes, that can indeed happen!
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 Год назад
@@ibs5080 I'm guessing the average UK resident doesn't comprehend the size of the classic american land yacht.
@ibs5080
@ibs5080 Год назад
@@kenbrown2808 Yes I would say that's an accurate summation. I do on occasion see those big American land yachts of past era's when I attend classic car shows here in the UK. Of course, even more so at car shows in BC and WA.
@garypaintain2730
@garypaintain2730 Год назад
What you don’t emphasise Ashley is that some people pavement park when they don’t need to. It is just a thoughtless habit when parking on the pavement is not needed.
@Tillyard86
@Tillyard86 Год назад
There’s a guy in a wheelchair that lives down the road from me, he’s quite a large man as well. I walk down my road some days and look at the space, or lack of it, on the pavement and wonder what he does if he wants to nip out. He must have to go in the road or find another way.
@WansbeckBikecam
@WansbeckBikecam Год назад
Should be like parts of Japan where you can't get a car unless you have a parking space for it. Utilise out of town car parks so people then have to walk or cycle back home.
@QiuEnnan
@QiuEnnan 10 месяцев назад
This is actually a simple matter - driving on pavements is illegal and therefore parking of vehicles other than motorcycles, cycles, etc. which can be pushed on to them is also illegal. You must go park elsewhere if you cannot park on the carriageway without causing an obstruction.
@stephenhargreaves9011
@stephenhargreaves9011 Год назад
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, whilst parking on the pavement is not illegal in the UK (apart from London), driving on the pavement is (rule 145). I have never yet seen any driver get out of their vehicle and lift it, by hand, from road to pavement, which means that they drove on the pavement to get it there.
@GilesWendes
@GilesWendes Год назад
Check out Goldsmith Lane in Kingsbury on StreetView. Cars parked on the pavement on both sides of the road, no space for buggies or wheelchairs. There's an SEN school just around the corner and signs on the road that say 'Disabled Children'. Greater London. Council just leave the residents to do whatever they want. Really dangerous, needs fixing. Not to mention that people go down this little lane at high speed because it's a shortcut :(
@GilesWendes
@GilesWendes Год назад
First comment was deleted, guessing for sharing a postcode?
@dacorum8053
@dacorum8053 9 месяцев назад
Hi Ashley, there are at least two areas outside London, Exeter and Hereford, where pavement parking is prohibited under local Acts of Parliament except where it specifically allowed. I am not sure how much enforcement there is of pavement parking contraventions in those cities but the local Act provisions are still in place.
@eurosonly
@eurosonly Год назад
We quickly went from not having private transportation to having it become a big nuisance after the car was made popular and affordable.
@coord47
@coord47 Год назад
You mention that in our older housing estates the roads cannot accommodate car numbers today. I agree. However, in my opinion, new build is even worse as the roads are even narrower.
@karoln7078
@karoln7078 Год назад
Yes some of the new estates are a joke but they are private property so people can get away with it
@weevilinabox
@weevilinabox Год назад
@@karoln7078 Private property or not, they can't be built without planning permission, so why isn't this made conditional on adequate road space?
@karoln7078
@karoln7078 Год назад
@@weevilinabox bribery and corruption mate
@mattwardman
@mattwardman Год назад
The normal minimum width for newbuild estates is 5.5m carriageway width, which is double the absolute minimum for one way passage by a Fire Engine.
@bobbelsekwol
@bobbelsekwol Год назад
Apart from obstruction, damage to pavements and driving on the pavement, there's nothing wrong with anti-social parking. Every argument for parking on the pavement has a argument for not parking on the pavement. In general, pavement parking is done by idiots with no idea of the problems it causes.
@jcskyknight2222
@jcskyknight2222 Год назад
The road we live on is a little loop in a residential area. Most houses have room for one car on their drive, so everyone has one car on the road. It’s just about wide enough to park cars on either side without obstructing the road, but it is on a bus route so the buses can turn around. As a result we all park partly on the pavement (including my disabled neighbour who has a bay). The unspoken rule on the street though is that we leave enough room for a double buggy to get through, and this only works if both sides park on the pavement a little rather than one side not doing it at all. It seems to work for everyone around here, even if it might not seem like what should be done. Oh yes and mirrors in on both sides for sure!
@dacorum8053
@dacorum8053 9 месяцев назад
It is the case in London that pavement parking is specifically allowed in some streets and signage shows exactly where pavement parking is allowed and also how far across the pavement you may park so as not to impede the passage of a wheelchair or a pram to pass along he pavement safely when a vehicle is parked partially on the pavement. It is notable that this exception to the pavement parking ban in London is entirely in line with Ashley's excellent advice at the end of the video in which he states that,if you have to park partially on the pavement as in the case where parking on the road would prevent the passage of emergency vehicles, always make sure you leave enough room for a wheelchair or a pram to pass on the pavement and, if there is insufficient room, then find a safe place to park elsewhere.
@snowleopard9749
@snowleopard9749 Год назад
I'm glad pavement (footpath) parking is banned (and rare) in Australia.
@guessundheit6494
@guessundheit6494 Год назад
There is no "both sides". If you block sidewalks and crosswalks, expect car damage, and if you don't have a parking space, you don't have the right to own a car. Incidental damage for parking violators should be legalized, too. The person who painted cars in Manchester is a hero for getting the point across. If fogduckers don't want pedestrians walking on the road, stop parking on sidewalks. 1:55 - Japan has it right: If you don't have legal personal parking space, you're not legally allowed to own a car. If I can't walk down a sidewalk without my metal cane contacting their side panels, that's their problem for parking illegally. 4:20 - If you can't afford damage to your car, YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO OWN A CAR. Sell it. 6:08 - That pinhead deserves a new paint job.
@richardgiles2484
@richardgiles2484 Год назад
Pavement parking really gets my goat. I have spoken to the traffic wardens, and they say it's down to the police. spoken the police and they say it's down to the council 🙄 Can someone tell why 4x4 driers have the urge to park on Pavements when they don't need to 🤣
@highdownmartin
@highdownmartin Год назад
Because they’re w⚓️s. And I’ve got a Landrover, but I only park considerately.
@Dutchy80
@Dutchy80 Год назад
When my 2 kids were in pushchairs, if a car was so far over the pavement I had to go in the road, if I could still squeeze down but scratched the car then tough. Pavements are for pedestrians 99% of the time. If was walking in the road I would shouted at by drivers. So tough. I'm not putting my kids at risk by having to walking in the road. Dont mind parking on the pavement but make sure there is room for everyone!
@lordnick1575
@lordnick1575 Год назад
You can indeed get a ticket for parking with your wheels on the curb, I knew someone who did. That said some roads seem to be completely unenforced in this regard so being respectful while having a bit of local knowledge is useful.
@xTerminatorAndy
@xTerminatorAndy Год назад
Yes I concur. Fold your mirrors in. Not only is it good manners, but it also serves as a visual cue to would-be car-robbers that your car has been locked.
@ptaylor5014
@ptaylor5014 Год назад
The Uk roads and pavements is till pretty much from the early days, the amount of people owning and or driving vehicles however has increased massively over the last few decades, ie the infrastructure has mostly not kept up to the pace of todays society but don't worry because the WEF have a plan to reduce vehicle ownership and you will be happy apparently?
@SirIdot
@SirIdot Год назад
It's fascinating how much more lax the parking regulations are in the UK in comparison to my native Sweden. Here it is illegal for any wheel to be on any part of the pavement. If you can't park without blocking traffic, then you can't park there at all. There are many other things that are much stricter here, parking facing the direction of travel is also illegal for instance.
@mriggst
@mriggst 6 месяцев назад
I passed my test in 1967 when it was illegal to park on the pavement.
@ArminGrewe
@ArminGrewe Год назад
Some others have already mentioned rule 145 ("You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway except to gain lawful access to property, or in the case of an emergency."). I'd like to understand how this doesn't make parking on the pavement illegal. After all, how are you going to park a car on the pavement unless you drive it there? Teleportation? Not even a Tesla can do that yet as far as I'm aware. Flying? Not aware of any road legal cars in the UK that can do that either. Walking? Not aware of any cars with additional legs to walk on to the pavement either.
@Igbon5
@Igbon5 Год назад
It does seem an intractable problem. Too many people, too many cars, not enough space.
@xorsyst1
@xorsyst1 Год назад
One of the things we need to do is enforce a slightly wider street in new build developments. They are always built with narrow, twisty streets these days, which makes it impossible to visit anyone whose drive is full and park a car without going on a pavement or causing an obstruction on the road.
@ynotnilknarf39
@ynotnilknarf39 Год назад
nope, reduce roads on new developments to one lane and make them one way. Motoring alread destroys millions of acres of farmland and greenbelt to accomodate it. They are built narrow/twisty to reduce motoring and speeds, so that people who live there are safer, can cycle and walk with lower risks from speeding motorists. If you don't have the space on our property, don't buy another car, and if you have visitors, they can park up and walk. FFS you lot always want convenience over everbody else!!
@burgersnchips
@burgersnchips Год назад
They're built like that on purpose, to make parked cars and the bends themselves into obstacles which slows the drivers down. I don't personally appreciate my car being used as an obstacle in such situations, but have little choice.
@mattwardman
@mattwardman 11 месяцев назад
@@burgersnchips Perhaps park it on your driveway where it belongs?
@mattwardman
@mattwardman 11 месяцев назад
@@burgersnchips Perhaps park it on your driveway where it belongs?
@burgersnchips
@burgersnchips 11 месяцев назад
@@mattwardman I 100% agree. Can't do that on the school run though and I'm not going to walk an hour each way. The school has a huge half empty car park with an entry barrier so parents are left to risk their property on the road, I'm not really sure how they came to the decision that that's the best/safest way. Probably just cheapest (reduce wear on their tarmac). Cars without driveways and no local parking area should be considered as bought without parking. And cars with room for 1/2/3 cars off road should be considered as bought with that much parking. Much like pavements are not car parks, neither are roads. But here we are.
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
I do think motorists choosing cars that are wider over the years has made this problem worse.
@davidjones332
@davidjones332 Год назад
Unfortunately there aren't any narrow cars anymore. That is because a) thicker doors allow for better side-impact protection, and b) there are too many fat folk these days who couldn't get into a five foot-wide 1960s Ford Anglia or Morris 1100.
@climatechangedoesntbargain9140
@@davidjones332 there are micro cars, which are more common in the netherlands
@cyclecam6328
@cyclecam6328 Год назад
@@davidjones332 we are on the Wall-e timeline
@adampoultney8737
@adampoultney8737 Год назад
Or is that the manufacturers doing that
@IfInDoubt..
@IfInDoubt.. Год назад
It's the manufacturers making wider cars, not people choosing them - take Ashley's Golf as an example, the MK1 Golf launched in 1976 looks smaller than VWs entry point which is the UP.
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