Payday 3: The Art Of Stealth 

"Sorry, officer, I thought the bathroom was this way." ~ Dallas at a mall cop catching him in the food court kitchen

@@rattle_me_bones Surprisingly realistic shit you would see in a mall

@@rattle_me_bones It's actually common to have bathrooms near food courts, hell even near the kitchen of the food court

​@@rattle_me_bonesuhh, i need a medic bag

@@rattle_me_bones „I must have taken a wrong right turn- Or left, I was going to the park.“ -Dallas on a cruise ship

Same, it really shows the fact that you aren't seen as a psychotic threat by the guards, if they see you in a private area for the first time, they think you Just didnt know you didnt have Access there becouse you weren't told so, and they will escort you back after informing you that the area your in is not accessable by civilians

Basically Hitman. Finally some logical gameplay.

Police when they see you slip on some shades:

@@thataintfalco7106 It's probably more of the visible firearm than the glasses.

@@Deimos_PeanutFlavour nah wearing glasses inside is a Felony.

Pretty cool

80 now right

@beenguy5887got early access

@@omfhalo7404lucky

payday 3 is coming in 12 weeks! payday 3, just 12 weeks away! it got here so fast!

Thanks M0rti! Was a pleasure meeting you in Stockholm. Looking forward to seeing you again!

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@@TheKknowley Absolutely! Hopefully we meet again for the release of PD3 in September 😊

yes ofc someone who did most missions with 75det should wait for new stealth

@@robocookie1662 E

Completely agree with this. I even started out PD2 with a hybrid build for a plan B only to turn out everyone restarts a failed stealth run. I hope they make something like a "dodge stealth" build so we're never useless in a loud situation, and can carry more gadgets / better drill for "armor loud" builds in a stealth situation.

Yes!! i loved the idea of the armor bag to switch builds mid heist but in reality in PD2 you just can't support two builds at once

@@X1erra Well with concealment being gone it should make stealth builds more useful since their not restricted to what ever weapons have the lowest concealment stat. on the downside dodge is also gone so were going to have to see how good low armor builds are.

Big bank remains my favorite job just because it does allow for partial stealth approaches

Only on Normal diff can cams be broken. And even then, guards don't get sent to seek them out, but will be alert if they spot one broken.

@@scootaloo9491 Is this for Payday 3? In payday 2, a guard will be updated to check on a broken cam if the camera operator is still active.

There was nothing arbitrary about the restriction. They only needed to greatly punish the murder of civilians. PD3 removed all of the skills and challenges of PD2 stealth. This is an enormous downgrade.

@@jandamz1119 Yes. It's for PD3. From what i heard anyway, that's how it works. Cam op or no cam op.

​@@Go_Coupthe "skill and challenge" of beiny physically unable to not kill civs in bank heist solo stealth unless you feel like yelling at civs for 5 minutes? Or stolkholm syndrome and saw?

One of us! One of us! One of us!

ROCK AND STONE BROTHER Wait wrong game BISCUITS AND SCONES

@@thataintfalco7106 ROCK AND STONE TO THE BONESSSS

Lol star field and payday 3 are going to take my life.

Payday 3 brainrot incoming

Classic, did the same on ps3 before I could think straight.

I met my best friends playing Xbox one stealth

Much more failed stealth memories to relive. Lol

It’s a horrible idea. …or lack of an idea. Does that guy have an LMG under his coat? It doesn’t matter!

​@@Go_Coup you must be extremely fun at parties, you should tell all your (definitely existant because you're such a charismatic social butterfly who people love to be around and definitely definitley NOT a whiny cunt on the internet with nothing better to do than bitch and moan at other people) friends what you think!!

@@Go_Coup You have absolutely the same shit in PD2 where with right skills you can get 3 conceivability with an AR and some armor, so its not really nothing new

@@Go_Coup LMG likely a Overkill weapon anyways.

@@negativefg7922 : it was already bad! So, they should make it worse! Or, maybe I’m just crazy, they could use the sequel to improve upon the previous game!

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Yep, it looks just as easy and abusable as the modern Hitman games are.

@@Go_Couphitman is peak stealth gameplay idk wym

@@andygotthebass6525 , I hope that’s sarcasm. The AI in that game is so much worse than that of 20-year-old+ games.

@@Go_Coup True

Yes, nothing says “sensible” quite like bringing an anti-materiel rifle under your trench coat and being just as suspicious as someone with a Dillinger.

@Go_Coup Yeah throwing out the concealment system altogether seems like a weird move, but I just mean it's nice to see a stealth system that can support some player creativity for once. Personally, I think changes like guards escorting you out of restricted areas instead of immediately opening fire are both sensible and long overdue.

@@Go_Coup sensible does not mean realistic.

@@afaxmachine5045 , it also affects the gameplay. Come on, think for a few seconds before you post nonsense.

I would wager that a speedrunning community would prefer you do a random seed for the map itself than being able to select specific seeds you like, someone got caught doing this during their so called "blind runs" for Minecraft speedrunning, it came to light that the map they were using wasn't random, it was one they knew and practiced, to a speedrunning community this can be seen as a form of cheating.

@@cursedhawkins1305 It depends on the run category and the community, of course doing a "blind run" in a category meant for RNG seeded runs when you already know the seed inside and out is a bad look. But if the community decides on a specific seed to run, or if there's a run category where you can input your own seed & can potentially find an optimal seed beforehand to practice, it won't be an issue

​@@cursedhawkins1305 I think it's like AirRice says, it'll be up to the community to decide. The majority of the payday 2 speedrunners who are interested in speedrunning pd3, me included, prefer set seed for individual levels in payday 2. In payday 2 we use a third party mod to modify heist rng which is pretty controversial, so that's why the potential for a vanilla solution in pd3 would be kinda cool. But still there'll probably be a bunch of new runners with differing opinions when pd3 drops so all of this is hopefully going to get thoroughly discussed when it becomes relevant :)

nah infinite pagers wouldn't be good balance, I prefer the "lead" guards that have an infinite pager and also answering more pagers than you can doesn't trigger the alarm

I'm excited too but I still have some concerns, like their new monetization model ala Warzone/Fortnite with a payday currency (like cod points or v-Bucks) while still charging their players for every single map like in Payday 2. In my opinion they should give all players the maps for free if they intend to have an in-game store filled with cosmetics microtransactions like those games do, that's how modern gaming model works.

you can also use an SMG as the secondary, as the sniper also has one

@@betima5875 i mean, the sniper doesn't suddenly explode if he misses a headshot, much less if the bugger is using the machina and bodyshotting like a goddamn _roach_

Just hope that they fixed the body's clipping through walls, what's worse then corpses not being detected because there head clips into a wall is the head clipping through the wall and being detected from the other side

@@calebbarnhouse496 That was an asset at times.

@@TheOmegaRiddler being beneficial does not mean it's good, it's terrible game desighn when enemies you kill sometimes are invisible to the other guards, for reference to other stealth games, in dishonored, where you get tons of powerful abilities, instantly destroying a corpse in stealth is a a late game abylity with high cost, it's not am effect you should get for getting lucky

​@@TheOmegaRiddlerIT is on UE4 rn but will be updated to UE5 post launch. So that might change.

@@calebbarnhouse496 Must have been a shocker to see that high chaos ending then, because what you did wasn't the smartest way to go about eliminating dead bodies, if you want to use the rats to get rid of unconscious guards then you need to be using the swarms that are spawned naturally on the map, these will not count against you if they kill someone even when unconscious and it's been proven before with the Lady Doyle mission since there's a swarm in the basement, feed the target to that swarm and your hands will not have an ounce of blood on them, because it's not you doing the killing of the target, same goes for dogs in Dishonored 1 you can freely kill dogs without consequence as the game doesn't even consider them as enemies for the stats screen.

No! it wont change after >restarts

You got mixed up there. Heist RNG will be the same *on restarts*. Heist RNG will still be different if you completely enter and exit a heist. For example: restarting the art gallery mission means that RNG is still the same. But if you back out and start up the heist again, then the RNG is going to be completely different.

Lord no. Although that would be ideal for loud as civs are such an important resource there!

@@TheKknowleydo the cars and outside civs respawn infinitely?

Was thinking exactly the same - guess we have to download it twice now - no biggie

It's only coming out for Series X, PS5 and PC. Unfortunately Last gen is just too much of a gamble.

Any credibility you should have for playing Thief has been removed by comparing it to this shallow game. PD2 was a unique and challenging experience compared to this generic easy thing. Shoot, maybe you were talking about the Thief reboot.

​@@Go_Coup Yes, the stealth in PD2 is challenging, but not without its faults. I can't say PD3 stealth will be 100% perfect either, but I like the broader interactivity it's going for.

@@Go_Coup The game literally isn't out yet + you've left a reply to like every single comment of people talking about how excited they are by basically just complaining and giving no actual argument

@@bennetthobbitt9847 , I left about 10 replies to try to awaken people from their silly hype. I doubt this video only has 10 comments. All of my replies were as articulate as the original comment was.

@@Go_Coup I really wish I could understand how people like you work, where in a situation where everybody disagrees with you, you still refuse to accept that not everyone has the same opinion as you, and that you cant change that. It doesn't help that none of your replies have given any reasoning as to your views aside from "muh its too easy baby game" despite the fact that the game has yet to release and we still likely don't know the full extent of the content. As someone who has played a LOT of stealth in PD2, it gets stale. While it is fun to learn guard paths, safe areas, etc, it still just gets stale after a while. Like, I can only get so much better at a heist before I'm just going through the motions, barely focusing because I've just done it so much. What we know of the stealth gameplay in PD3 excites me, because to me, it presents more challenge; I cant just learn the paths, the routes, and trivialize the heist. I have to *adapt*. It doesn't let me just turn my brain off, because there's so many more ways I could approach the heist. These are just my thoughts, and from your other replies I doubt this'll change anything. I'm not asking you to like the game or whatever, I'm just hoping that you can understand why *other people* are excited for the game. Have a good day.

he did mention that answering a 5th pager wouldn't immediately trigger the alarm but rather send all guards into search mode which makes escaping harder

I think a few people have uploaded it. We were told not to do so in full sadly.