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0:00 Intro
1:57 CM3588 NAS Kit Introduction
3:39 SSD Options
5:19 Why Bother with a NAS?
6:06 OpenMediaVault Setup
6:59 Speed Test
7:40 Backup Phone Data
8:29 Extra Tricks for the CM3588
9:10 Video Editing Test
9:53 Conclusion
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@juliengoltzman8026
@juliengoltzman8026 Месяц назад
As a noob when it comes to networking/server/ all this kind of stuff. Feel like we could use a total "switch your life to local" video showing how to set up a local video streaming library and storage system to get rid of subscriptions
@randombanter7553
@randombanter7553 Месяц назад
Same
@j3sion
@j3sion Месяц назад
Can't wait 😊
@williambrasky3891
@williambrasky3891 Месяц назад
Excellent idea.
@fashionablefrog5813
@fashionablefrog5813 Месяц назад
bump
@dimmahund
@dimmahund Месяц назад
Props for the idea
@TheMorrowgamer
@TheMorrowgamer Месяц назад
I'm surprised you didn't mention one of the best parts... The Wiki page for the CM3588 has PCB CAD files, including PCB layout, and a STEP file for the board which would make printing a case for this thing a breeze!
@HairyStuntWaffle
@HairyStuntWaffle Месяц назад
I would be AMAZED if there was not a dozen already out there. it looks iro mini ITX?
@TurinAlexander
@TurinAlexander Месяц назад
Is that really the best part? I know all the 3D printing people out there will love it, but despite what those people think, 3D printing is incredibly niche. Even for people that watch this sort of content.
@TheMorrowgamer
@TheMorrowgamer Месяц назад
@@TurinAlexander Most people who would be buying this thing probably are enthusiasts, and either have or have access to a printer.
@LoFiAxolotl
@LoFiAxolotl Месяц назад
@@TurinAlexander most public libraries these days have 3d printers that you can use, not the most convenient way.... but if you don't have a printer and want something printed... it's usually free or has a very very small fee
@astronemir
@astronemir Месяц назад
@@TurinAlexander because it exists that means you can order a printed case.
@taquocviet
@taquocviet Месяц назад
Producer: how many sponsors do you want in the video? Linus: Yes.
@Dailydose1011
@Dailydose1011 Месяц назад
Best comment fr😂
@EpikGamerYT
@EpikGamerYT Месяц назад
All LTT is these days is a 50% video and 50% sales pitches... I can watch normal TV if i want to see this many ads thanks...
@joesalz9963
@joesalz9963 Месяц назад
That's why I stopped watching his videos. Like just one long ad masked as a technical how-to video. Only reason I stumbled upon this is because I was looking for a cheap, small NAS that wasn't a raspberry pi since the pi5 isn't that cheap anymore. There is also click bait/misleading. The description say "This tiny computer is so small it can fit in your pocket and have over 30TB of SSD Storage. For under $100 you can have a powerful ARM based board to call youre own!" then in the video they end up with 11TB and says it cost $165 just for one of NVMe drives alone! LMAO
@mykeride
@mykeride Месяц назад
@@joesalz9963 Heh, and today, 2 weeks after it posted, following the link in the description for the NVME drives takes me to an Amazon page selling them for $226 each. So while the end of the video shows this rig as outfitted as costing $825, if you buy everything using LTT's very links today, it will cost $1,093 (the 16GB RAM option on FriendlyElec went up as well, and LTT didn't include the cost for a power supply).
@EpikGamerYT
@EpikGamerYT Месяц назад
@@joesalz9963 100% agree man, this is the same reason i found the video and was so disappointed when i came back after not watching for a year ish... it has gotten even worse over time!
@RottweilerPerformance
@RottweilerPerformance 20 дней назад
We saved $14 doing this trick. Thank you! That being said we spent $783 of our own time sourcing the parts, learning how to do it and setting it all up...
@moxieman2452
@moxieman2452 Месяц назад
I appreciate the BMW iDrive joke
@john-wx7gr
@john-wx7gr Месяц назад
same dude
@barongogenzoler4300
@barongogenzoler4300 Месяц назад
Dunno how about Americans, but in EU it's not a joke actually.
@Suchtzocker
@Suchtzocker Месяц назад
@@barongogenzoler4300 its a sarcastic joke, in EU also ... BMW is expensive all around the world ... thats what they where joking over ...
@HaraldBergTechTv
@HaraldBergTechTv Месяц назад
Yes they are expensive to buy and expensive to maintain 😢 I know since I drive one
@barongogenzoler4300
@barongogenzoler4300 Месяц назад
​@@Suchtzocker, in the US 330i is less than the average annual take-home. In the EU it's nominally far more expensive and take-home is much lover. It means the average postgrad with few years of experience can't afford a lease. PPP in reality.
Месяц назад
With me maintaining support for Rockchip SoCs in the mainline Linux Kernel for a bit over 10 years now, it's really nice to see a Rockchip SoC in the "mainstream" media ;-)
@HagobSaldadianSmeik
@HagobSaldadianSmeik Месяц назад
Thank you for your service.
@FAKEAXIS
@FAKEAXIS Месяц назад
Doing gods work sir, having alternatives to Broadcom raspberry pi’s have been a god send for me
@nyanmisaka
@nyanmisaka Месяц назад
Thank you for your persistence. The RK3588 is definitely a game changer in the Arm based SBC world after the aging RK3399, considering that the broadcom chip on RPi5 is standing still.
@foxxyytofficial
@foxxyytofficial Месяц назад
Wish more people helped with the Orange Pi, they use both Rockchip and Allwinner, also good options for a possible NAS
@SambitBiswas
@SambitBiswas Месяц назад
Thank u m8!
@mwitters1
@mwitters1 Месяц назад
THIS is the kind of video presentation that I started watching LTT for. GREAT video. You don't have to get rid of the humor but give me the information in a concise manner. Best video from yall in a long time.
@h4gfish
@h4gfish Месяц назад
I assumed the video was a paid spot - they just breathlessly promote the board, and suggest you entrust all your data to an abandoned project the found on someone's Google drive. It's an interesting device, but when you're reaching for a backup, that thing has to work. When you're explaining to your spouse that the baby photos are all gone, "b-but we saved nearly $300" isn't going to help you.
@kayaguvendi
@kayaguvendi 16 дней назад
@@h4gfish Then get an offsite backup too. It can even be a good friend's house in the same city, really. The cloud storage prices are insane.
@dmmas9988
@dmmas9988 4 дня назад
There is about 70% of irrelevant information
@DrMarcArnoldBach
@DrMarcArnoldBach Месяц назад
I am working in IT and run my own server downstairs. I stopped using my server as a cloud storage for mobile sync because having such a service exposed to the internet comes with responsibility. Suddenly I have to read security notes and perform patches over night. regularly the cloud suite changed major components in the software architecture and upgrade is a challenge and you study docu and blogposts. I am back to USB cable and Netdrive on a PC
@epsig1507
@epsig1507 25 дней назад
have you considered putting your home server behind a VPN? You can still access it through the internet but it is not exposed (only the VPN port).
@frankfrei6848
@frankfrei6848 17 дней назад
Yes, indeed, excellent point. Plus the mobile apps to do the sync are nowhere as reliable as the built-in ones. I used exactly the app they are showing in the first few seconds of this video and it was the best one I tried but still would miss synchronizing stuff automatically sometimes.
@frankfrei6848
@frankfrei6848 17 дней назад
@@epsig1507 This is an option but you then have to keep the VPN connection open at all times or manage VPN and syncing manually which is a pain.
@camilostrange737
@camilostrange737 16 дней назад
Same. I was running all kind of services, like a FOSS slack and a FOSS dropbox, and the security considerations only were insane. At some point it was cost effective to just pay the yearly subscription.
@ntn888
@ntn888 15 дней назад
yes excellent point. but as a middle ground alternative, you could only sync over local wifi and turn off remote access.
@WilliamHaisch
@WilliamHaisch Месяц назад
I see what Elijah is doing… by subconsciously demonstrating that he can “wear many different hats” he is maneuvering himself into a generous raise because he literally “wears many different hats”! We can all learn some next level shizz from the 4D chess master, Elijah! 😂
@bahamut8591
@bahamut8591 Месяц назад
he really should just wear the helmet
@MarkReddington
@MarkReddington Месяц назад
this has gotta be part of their april fools video. they've been hiding things in their recent videos...
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo Месяц назад
Oh, I thought he was signalling that he's transitioning.
@thejunkman
@thejunkman Месяц назад
That was a hell of a make a wish request.
@jayo8621
@jayo8621 Месяц назад
ok "William" ... Nice fake name Elijah.. maybe you can make a video on how to make fake youtube hbots that hype you up to get raises at work.. that would be useful
@GoPotato69
@GoPotato69 Месяц назад
ngl this is one of the best ltt videos this year, short, to the point, funny bits, and affordable tech/solutions
@fuelvolts
@fuelvolts Месяц назад
“Affordable” in that the 4TB drives are $180 each! This thing as configured by Linus is nearly $1000. I realize you can use 2TB drives but it would still be about $600 that way. That’s a lot of hassle and nearly 5 years of cloud storage.
@GoPotato69
@GoPotato69 Месяц назад
@@fuelvolts i mean im sure in the future there prob will be sata versions of this or even buy some cheap adapters, and even so u can get some cheap m2 ssd's now, ofc prices have been going back up but u can def get some deals. Ofc if ur going budget u could just plug a USB external hard drive into your router or get a bunch of refurb hard drives but the software pointed out for mobile is def a new addition to my life
@LinusTechTips
@LinusTechTips Месяц назад
You could also use cheap m.2 to sata adapters and not use SSDs at all.
@youtubear02xdax
@youtubear02xdax Месяц назад
@@fuelvolts1. 16TB cloud storage cost 6usd/TB (Backblaze B2), making it 1000 bucks a year. Apple iCloud cost 60usd x12 = 700usd a year. 2. All your data is being actively scanned and removed on DCMA request, should you upload licensed media such as movies, songs and try to share them to other people. 3. If they were to loose your data (happened with google before), they hold 0 liability. 0 responsibility. It’s written in the the small text when you sign up for the service… Sure, if you only need 2TB, then a iCloud for 5usd/month is totally fine. But a 2TB SSD can be bought new for 60usd as well…
@Jonn0_
@Jonn0_ Месяц назад
@@fuelvolts that price is for fast storage, as mentioned in the video, just run 3.5" drives and pay less then 1/4 of the price. pretty sure you can get 12TB drives for under 200. for NVME storage, 180 for 4TB IS affordable. even at these slower speeds (compared to gen 4/5 etc) youve still got the convenience of 1. less likely for a physical failure (in terms of the HDD dying etc) and 2. way smaller / quieter. a couple 3.5" drives will be bigger than the entire PCB. I've got my old PC converted to a NAS, also using openmedia, and it works great
@maryethu
@maryethu Месяц назад
I really liked the intro! It was a bit confusing because it wasn't clear what the relationship was between a homemade NAS and phone snatchers until Linus brought it back up it part way through the video, but very inventive! Keep up the good work, Elijah.
@freddymendoza4802
@freddymendoza4802 Месяц назад
Phone smashers* not snatchers. Given the video is for cloud backup and they were “smashing their phones” I thought it was pretty obvious?
@thepokerus4184
@thepokerus4184 Месяц назад
I am a Networking Desktop engineer, for context: Great video! very useful and practical, but for certain clientele. This is great for people who need massive storage, this will save so much $$$. However, for the average user family who only needs to back up pictures, 1tb per person (total 6 users) at $99yr, with office 365 included, hard to beat. Which is why even though I have NAS at home, its only private, not public, not worth it yet. Maybe in the future. This set up isn't for the average user but still amazing to see how compatible it is with many third party apps and powerful the device is while being very affordable.
@MartinKovacik
@MartinKovacik 13 дней назад
Indeed ... also a professional cloud service solves e.g. the high availability/storage redundancy topic for you so if a regular user should setup 2 of those, operating the 2nd one in an offsite location with (appropriately fast) internet connection and backup and/or continuous sync job in place ... not to mention the configuration effort, keeping updates/security, etc. it might really just be more efficient to purchase a cloud account. I myself operate 2 NASes with RAID at 2 locations and following a proper HW lifecycle I already calculated that a cloud offering would be more efficient for me. So I just do it myself because I like it as an IT nerd 🥰 and that's why I am looking forward to getting my hands on this toy as well 😅😍.
@prop19yes
@prop19yes 12 дней назад
Why continue to pay month by month for a service, when its cheaper to build your own nas, not to mention you have full control over it. Don't need internet access and such, what if you decide you are done paying for storage and you want your files back,well then you still need drives to put this on. So better off just building the nas from the get go.
@thepokerus4184
@thepokerus4184 12 дней назад
@@prop19yes Again, not every user is going to be able to build this and this is not for everyone. You are assuming everyone can do this, they can't. If they could, I would not have a Job in IT 🤔 Also you are going to have to update & replace hardware overtime and failure, use up electricity and some 3rd part apps for NAS do have a cost. So yes, even CapEX and OPEX apply here. Not only companies move away from on premises while some stay, individual users do as well per their needs and evaluations. Not complicated to understand.
@zeal514
@zeal514 10 дней назад
imo, we are headed toward a world where ppl have a home server that serves as a NAS, and runs all your apps. We gotta move away from the subscription model where every big company is fighting for a small sliver of everyones money, than has unlimited power in terms of laws over the virtual world.
@thepokerus4184
@thepokerus4184 10 дней назад
@@MartinKovacik thats awesome man, and you took into account something very important that many will not: hardware life cycle. This cost is miss by some thinking this set will be upfront cost only (CapEx) but they forget about maintenance and support. And yeah this is a perfect solution for many already over paying for Cloud/NAS service. Glad this has been working for you :D I also set up a Small NAS this year for local use only, and love it.
@benjaminschutz727
@benjaminschutz727 Месяц назад
The brilliance of sponsoring server space when talking about how to run your own cloud server
@BillAnt
@BillAnt Месяц назад
While it's cool, it doesn't sync everything like iCloud does, including contacts, messages, settings and apps/data. I'm not an iPhone guy, but I have to give Apple credit for their truly 100% backups, no Android does a 100% backup. The only other way to do it is pulling a manual backup locally via iTunes.
@focusandroid2783
@focusandroid2783 Месяц назад
Everything you mentioned can be backed up on modern Android phones. Its just that some apps choose to opt-out of full backup. And not all settings can be transferred between different android operating systems.
@bubbledoubletrouble
@bubbledoubletrouble Месяц назад
@@BillAnt The average person's storage usage is mostly media. With that out of the picture, the 50 GB 99¢/mo tier or maybe even the 5 GB free tier become significantly more workable.
@forresthopkinsa
@forresthopkinsa Месяц назад
You still need an off-site backup
@c1hd746
@c1hd746 Месяц назад
Who says you have to stop using icloud
@Schatten.mensch
@Schatten.mensch Месяц назад
Looks like you murdered the elec website ^^
@brainwater
@brainwater Месяц назад
They got slashdotted
@ThunderClapLP
@ThunderClapLP Месяц назад
jup, still down
@rohscx
@rohscx Месяц назад
Yep
@hocek11
@hocek11 Месяц назад
Oh maaaan...
@ranjitthind440
@ranjitthind440 Месяц назад
Still down😅
@VampyrumFerox
@VampyrumFerox Месяц назад
so you started off saying it was $95, but then your setup was over $1500.
@MrPgunna
@MrPgunna Месяц назад
"We didn't want to buy the cheapest storage option, so we purchased 4 4TB NVME drives at $160 each." OK... Cool....
@Awytoo
@Awytoo Месяц назад
They got ya! 😂 Clickbait style
@MyAdonisDNA
@MyAdonisDNA Месяц назад
Yeah as soon as I saw this video I thought it was stupid. Even with one 2 tb m.2 drive it'd be about 200 dollars total so you're looking at 2 years as a break even. Plus you are giving up the biggest benifets of cloud storage by hosting yourself. Clloud storage will be off-site and have some redundancy.
@benwilliams7382
@benwilliams7382 Месяц назад
I think that's a little harsh considering. I agree that some of the benefits of cloud storage are not present, but I think the comparison of Nas to Nas between "all-in-one" enclosures Vs this do it yourself method yields some cost reductions. You definitely get some redundancy using raid, and you don't have to go nvme or a full 4*4tb system, you can scale to meet your needs
@MatzWerk
@MatzWerk Месяц назад
Think at least just a little bit! The Hardware is great, and for the Video sake and clicks they added some m.2s so what? Take a freaking m.2 to sata adapter and put your old hraddrives on it. Are you all that uninspired to pick your own fraking conclusion out of the video?
@Shanemvm
@Shanemvm Месяц назад
This is perfect. Been looking for a cheap yet effective video editing server for a while but didn't want to spend hundreds on a Synology NAS or some other home NAS. With the SATA expansions I could also just as easily use more high end SATA SSDs in the long run too for expandability.
@TheJCEguy
@TheJCEguy Месяц назад
Elijah chaning hats every frame was comedy gold! 😆
@1yugiohtrader
@1yugiohtrader Месяц назад
I suspect he need to wear all those hats in order to claim them as a tax write off
@that_jason_black
@that_jason_black Месяц назад
He's that hat guy now. lol
@SpaceJazz3K
@SpaceJazz3K Месяц назад
@@1yugiohtraderso Elijah goes by them eh?
@specodhec341
@specodhec341 Месяц назад
Just a burning memory
@KibitoAkuya
@KibitoAkuya Месяц назад
The typo made me imagine him with a fedora schizoposting on a chan board idk why
@r0galik
@r0galik Месяц назад
Great video, finally a large channel showing people that a NAS is not some black box with black magic inside, but something quite simple. And that currently ARM boards can be used for it pretty comfortably. I've been running a NAS powered by a raspberry pi 4 for over 2 years and it never failed (knock knock)
@CJonestheSteam72
@CJonestheSteam72 Месяц назад
I am not sure why I would want the featured device over a Raspberry pi tbh especially at the spec they went for
@Ornithopter470
@Ornithopter470 Месяц назад
​@@CJonestheSteam72 the top end model is significantly more performant than a pi 5, and for not much more money. It's also got much, much better I/O.
@r0galik
@r0galik Месяц назад
@@CJonestheSteam72 raspberry pis are a bit expensive, underpowered and have very little IO
@ParkerRobertsFilms
@ParkerRobertsFilms Месяц назад
(who's there?)
@cronchcrunch
@cronchcrunch Месяц назад
​@@r0galikknock knock
@vmdcortes
@vmdcortes Месяц назад
This is awesome!! I'd love to see another video with an HDD configuration with a custom 3D printed build ❤ and more benchmarks 🎉
@3Toy
@3Toy Месяц назад
Detailed tutorials on how to set up such systems will be very appreciated !
@stijncelerier9563
@stijncelerier9563 Месяц назад
When every tech youtuber is launching Ugreen nas videos. Ltt does this, love it.
@artemisfowl127
@artemisfowl127 Месяц назад
Literally was contemplating buying ugreen's $500 nvme device, but not anymore thankyou linus. But sadly the built in storage options are out of stock so I'll be waiting to buy then.
@ClintonHuynh
@ClintonHuynh Месяц назад
@@artemisfowl127Depends, UGreen's solution is out of box ready that I would recommend someone's mom to get if they need one in the house. LTT's solution is a tinkerer's solution where it doesn't even come in a box to house the chip in.
@faizanbaber
@faizanbaber Месяц назад
Exactly
@littlebit670
@littlebit670 Месяц назад
If you don’t want the DIY then the UGreen NASync (or even another solution like the Synology DiskStation) would work. If you’re ok with the DIY and the cost of all-flash, then the FriendlyElec is for you.
@LittIegator
@LittIegator Месяц назад
It would be interesting to see a video on tips for setting up a 3-2-1 backup solution. If this video covers my NAS, what do I build for on-site backup? What do I build for off-site backup? Any tips for places to put off-site backup other than "parents' house" or "friend's house?"
@nephatrine
@nephatrine Месяц назад
Yeah this is the issue. I back up my local backups to google cloud just because I don't have my own "offsite" location I can stand up another storage server. Maybe a video on colocation services and things like that would be handy.
@tonTeufel
@tonTeufel Месяц назад
It's not automatic, but your office works. Have an encrypted external SSD that you load your backup on once a month and store it in your locker/ locked desk drawer at work.
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 Месяц назад
@@nephatrine yes, I also use Google but I package in some compression packages with encryption.
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName Месяц назад
I don't know if a video could be useful, because it's more of a debate rather than a simple topic they could cover. How much data are you backing up? Do you need all of it backed up? Do you REALLY need all of it backed up? What is available to you? What's your threshold for maximum inconvenience? Some people don't want to hear it, but there's nothing wrong with using cloud for off-site storage, as long as the limitations aren't too limiting for your use case. For use-cases like photos, having them in your phone, backing up to cloud and periodically storing them on your PC fulfills 3-2-1, with the added advantage that you're always carrying one of the devices with you, and the off-site storage can be accessed wherever you can get an internet connection. And with photos, it's unlikely you will need more than one of the cheap basic tiers which cost something like 1-5$ a month.
@Leo9ine
@Leo9ine Месяц назад
For cold archives - Encrypt and compress, dump it to Backblaze, they'll mail you a hard drive. For rolling backups... I haven't figured that out yet :/ But I think NextCloud may be the solution.
@technowey
@technowey 23 дня назад
I was happy to see Linus mention the 321 rule and offsite backup. The solution in this video is good for my phone data. I want my really important data backed up both locally and offsite, in case my house burns down.
@joho0
@joho0 Месяц назад
SSD-based NAS solutions have unique constraints in regard to overprovisioning and wear-leveling. Enterprise SAS spinny disks are still used in many corporate NAS solutions for this reason.
@kot98br
@kot98br Месяц назад
is there any research regard to this?
@joho0
@joho0 Месяц назад
@@kot98br Research is hard to come by, and youtube doesn't allow links in comments, but there are some well-informed articles out there that discuss the pros and cons. The key takeaway is that SSDs have a limited duty-cycle and may not be the best option for write-intensive applications.
@tazanteflight8670
@tazanteflight8670 18 дней назад
For what reason...?
@nauxsi
@nauxsi День назад
@@tazanteflight8670 firmware on m2 drives.
@smadayeoj
@smadayeoj Месяц назад
4:00 building a 20-HD NAS sounds like a video idea of its own.
@gregdaweson4657
@gregdaweson4657 Месяц назад
They already did it.
@marcelovictor3031
@marcelovictor3031 27 дней назад
@@gregdaweson4657 where´s the link?
@nolanhaines2261
@nolanhaines2261 Месяц назад
First tech upgrade, then home improvement for Linus, and finally NAS setups? You could say Elijah is a.... many of many hats .... in this video
@Gorillaeatz
@Gorillaeatz Месяц назад
Great work. Technology focused while honing in on cost-effectiveness. Nice change of pace for you guys.
@doogie812
@doogie812 Месяц назад
How did you know I was looking to set up a NAS Plex server running under Ubuntu? Your solution is quiet too. Your timing is impeccable. Thanks!
@_LegoBricked_
@_LegoBricked_ Месяц назад
7:38 Linus must be proud of Elijah💪
@ashes7194
@ashes7194 Месяц назад
You HAVE to do a full runtime tutorial on this!! I haven't got this invested in a tech piece for such a long time
Месяц назад
THANKS this is what I've been looking for a while to solve my "storage" problems, THANKS!! Regards from Tabasco, México [Land of The Olmecs]!
@iviaverick52
@iviaverick52 Месяц назад
Been trying to figure out what NAS I want to build for my Plex server. This is actually an awesome idea for a great price!
@stevenjames7082
@stevenjames7082 Месяц назад
That Intro !!!! The hat swaps The BMW joke . Top tier
@LKN117
@LKN117 Месяц назад
These are my favorite type of tech video. Showing off a practical application of niche hardware that I never would have known about otherwise. I genuinely think I'm going to order one and copy this setup.
@robertwilsoniii2048
@robertwilsoniii2048 Месяц назад
There's a subtle difference though, you're reaponsible for your own data now. You store on fhe cloud and it's their problem, ans they'll damn sure use redundancy to have several bavkups ready in cases of disasters. If you pay for redundancy thw cloud storags is a decent option, not for 2tb, but for 250gb it's fine. Probably best to diversify storage and backups to tolerate risks and hardware failures and balance costs.
@halomika4973
@halomika4973 Месяц назад
​@@robertwilsoniii2048 I dunno abt you, but I prefer taking responsibility over my own data as compared to paying boatloads of money.
@m33r61
@m33r61 Месяц назад
@@halomika4973and also, even if the cloud provider some how loses your data, theyll just get slap on the wrist and youll get 10 bucks in a class action
@johndurrett3573
@johndurrett3573 Месяц назад
@@robertwilsoniii2048 Double your investment and have two NAS servers - place them in different rooms under different breakers. Make one primary and backing up to secondary. Your PERSONAL data is not in the hands of a 3rd party which shifts is privacy and protection policy every 3 months. Major Corps are going to run you thru multiple ai phone menus's that will hide putting you in touch with a LIVE person. So they can have you running in circles for months or years trying to get your data back. Just take responsibility for your own Data.
@JQ_Unity
@JQ_Unity Месяц назад
​@@robertwilsoniii2048just set it up in RAID. Double or triple redundancy based on the drives used.
@ziggamalay
@ziggamalay 5 дней назад
This is INCREDIBLE. Please do a more indepth tutorial of how to do this! I would love it!
@iampoch01
@iampoch01 Месяц назад
I'm currently using a Synology DS920+ NAS and I'm a big proponent of it. I even convinced my manager to have one exclusively for our department instead of being reliant on Enterprise IT servers for some of our files. This NAS I'm VERY interested in, however. It doesn't cost a lot comparatively speaking, although the big letdown right now is that the biggest M2 I've seen in our country is 2TB, and it costs as much as (or a little lower in some cases) that 4TB drive you've featured.
@jasonstewart58
@jasonstewart58 Месяц назад
Best intro ever. Please do more like intros like this. The only problem I'm having with my NAS is that my work blocks remote access to my NAS at home from the office. Google and Microsoft cloud storages aren't blocked.
@Eli-zb2yj
@Eli-zb2yj Месяц назад
But what about their sponsor ?
@St0rMsk
@St0rMsk Месяц назад
Agree, Intro was bitchin or what ever young people say these days
@hoofhearted4
@hoofhearted4 Месяц назад
thats just bad practice on your business though tbh. most companies block Google and One Drive that isnt related to them.
@Jesus-father
@Jesus-father Месяц назад
just create a reverse proxy and voila
@slaterehm8448
@slaterehm8448 Месяц назад
Look into Noip and a home router with a vpn. You can use this to tunnel back into your network without port forwarding.
@cheeseisgreat24
@cheeseisgreat24 Месяц назад
That intro is a balm for the tech soul. I am so glad they’ve been bringing it back ☺️
@fiffy6572
@fiffy6572 Месяц назад
imagine a variant of this with open schematics so people can build custom accessories for it like the framework's laptops a 3d printed case or addons for expansions would be so cool
@clerian
@clerian Месяц назад
pCloud offers 10TB of cloud storage with a one time lifetime subscription for around $1100, which is honestly pretty competitive with this offering, although likely not as fast as when you're on LAN. Not saying it's a replacement for a NAS, but it could be an "affordable" option (after 2 years given current cloud storage costs) for your offsite storage option.
@lifeinhd4053
@lifeinhd4053 Месяц назад
The problem, as briefly mentioned in the video, is the 3-2-1 rule, which stipulates that one copy of your data must be kept offsite. Cloud storage solves this, whereas your own NAS (kept at home) does not. I suppose you could keep it at a friend's house, but then you'd also have to ask them to poke holes in their firewall which they may be unwilling (or unable) to do. There are also the value-adds for "official" cloud services, such as easy document sharing with others, full device backup, iCloud Relay, Hide My Email, and again, not having to poke holes in your firewall to access your data outside your network. I can see the value of a home NAS if you just have several TB of ancient photos and videos you want to offload from your device, but even then you should still pay for some form of cold/archival storage offsite to satisfy the 3-2-1. Personally, I pay $3/mo for 200gb of iCloud storage, and IMO it's money very well spent.
@meateaw
@meateaw Месяц назад
You dont need to poke holes through their firewall, you can poke holes through your own firewall, and configure your remotely hosted NAS to VPN **to you** connecting your nas to your network as if it were right next to you.
@pantoqwerty
@pantoqwerty Месяц назад
You also have the “how do I sync with the NAS when away from my network” issue. Wait until you’re back isn’t great and doesn’t compare to the cloud. Poke holes in the firewall is asking for trouble, and use a VPN can be beset by issues - one of which is patchy connectivity and the other is much reduced battery life. I know because I’ve tried.
@fullstack_journey
@fullstack_journey Месяц назад
Tailscale, Cloudflare Tunnels, etc solve these problems.
@igotnoname4557
@igotnoname4557 Месяц назад
@@pantoqwerty Nonsense. I'm a web dev who works from home. I have huge blocks of open IPs on my firewall and anywhere from zero to several hundred people connected at once. I just have a standard home Internet plan with my ISP. My services run on a standard PC that's nearly a decade old, now (i7). I've been working like this for decades. I honestly don't even know what you're talking about. You clearly have other issues. As a web dev, I'm also renting plenty of rack space but certain tasks just make a LOT more sense to host yourself (mostly, high CPU\low bandwidth stuff).
@pantoqwerty
@pantoqwerty Месяц назад
@@igotnoname4557 So you have several hundred people connected on your firewall at a time? Hardly a run of the mill appliance on a bog standard connection then else they’d be seriously contended. That you don’t know what i’m talking about is neither here nor there. VPN connections drain phone batteries. Fact. When your phone is locked it won’t generally keep the connection active and will activate it when you unlock it - you’ll see the VPN indicator go on and off. That’s an extra delay and inconvenience as you wait for it to reconnect. Native cloud services to a phone will work in the background. I host plenty of services but I refuse to expose them externally and VPN connectivity to them is a pain in the arse for the given reasons.
@bioniclelegend7
@bioniclelegend7 Месяц назад
Ngl this interests me massively. I love how tiny and compact this is. I have been running thinking of setting up a nas at home and something this small that supports m.2 SSDs. Sure it will cost a bit to set up like yours but as you said that's a one time cost and I like how easy it would be to upgrade the pcb while keeping the drives or keep the pcb and change the drives (if one died or something).
@xXDragonWarrior3872Xx
@xXDragonWarrior3872Xx Месяц назад
That's awesome. Might finally set up a NAS w Jellyfin, thanks LMG
@zwheels654
@zwheels654 Месяц назад
I will say, as a business owner, I found a steal of a deal with Office 365. Not this good of a deal, but one I'm happy with since I need the email hosting and office products anyway. I get 1 TB per user for $5 per month and I host client video files. So if I sign on a new long-term client, they get their own email address and a dedicated 1 TB of storage thrown in for just $5 per month. I do a lot of UGC and remote video projects, too. So setting up my client with a shared space to dump files, and share delivery is super seamless. If I ever have a bigger operation, though, I'm thankful for videos like these. One day it may make sense for me to self-host.
@chiyapet
@chiyapet Месяц назад
And... you blew up their site.
@MrakCZ
@MrakCZ Месяц назад
DDoS from Linus watchers.
@zargle5924
@zargle5924 Месяц назад
I NEED IT!!!
@Sol4rOnYt
@Sol4rOnYt Месяц назад
yep
@brandonmcclellan5721
@brandonmcclellan5721 Месяц назад
Omg, I can’t get onto their site!
@JayVal90
@JayVal90 Месяц назад
There’s a big opening here
@mikehartdesign
@mikehartdesign Месяц назад
'no dad, my generation cant afford BMW's' watching LS lip sync will never get old
@Zyo117
@Zyo117 Месяц назад
Omg, didn't see it the first time 😂
@seanlacroix
@seanlacroix Месяц назад
It's dumb because Jake has a couple of BMW's
@HumbertoHernandez
@HumbertoHernandez Месяц назад
I thought he said "my generation can't afford be all Ws (winners)" This makes more sense I guess haha.
@servissop151
@servissop151 Месяц назад
@@seanlacroix The one I know of (M5 E60) is going on 20 years old at this point, and he's a car guy, so he's willing to spend a higher percentage on his income on cars, which most people don't want to
@Xenoray1
@Xenoray1 Месяц назад
@@servissop151funny enough my dad just bought a e60 (not m5) for under 3k with gas mod ^^
@craigcook9715
@craigcook9715 11 дней назад
For syncing I'm a fan of Syncthing -- it took a while to figure it out, but I got there. I use it to sync an Obsidian project, and camera photos. It will mirror to any number of other devices.
@zragon3k
@zragon3k Месяц назад
I keep my favorite photos that I can't live without additionally backed up on a paid cloud, but having large internal storage and a NAS has been a huge saver for me. I will never pay for cloud storage when I can just host my own. I definitely prefer having a seperate NAS rather than one in my desktop, though.
@josephkeil7581
@josephkeil7581 Месяц назад
I'm just glad to have the og intro back, just saying it is a highlight to find out what one liner it is today
@TortuousAugur
@TortuousAugur Месяц назад
I must have been stuck in old video limbo because seeing a recent video featuring a cleanly shaved Linus gave me whiplash. Thanks for the video! Owning your own "cloud based storage" sounds awesome.
@Housestationlive
@Housestationlive День назад
i like it better with the opening ad way after the very firsts seconds!
@TheJayMane
@TheJayMane Месяц назад
You can get a Beelink Mini S12 with a much more powerful CPU and 16GB of ram for $180 if you want to run multiple Docker containers. It does only have 500GB, but you can upgrade it to 2TB and it has an NVME slot to expand it further. So while it is lacking 2 additional drives, it can definitely save you money if you want to run multiple platforms like Home Assistance, OctoPrint, Plex, without need multiple Raspberry Pis.
@kyjo72682
@kyjo72682 20 дней назад
this is a NAS, not an app server. it's supposed to have like 16-32 TB depending on drives
@JimParshall
@JimParshall Месяц назад
Your compadre there with the fedora on reminds me of my company in Bellevue WA we used to teach a lot of Red Hat Linux and we were the certification Center for Red Hat Linux in Washington. There were times when all of our trainers including me that were teaching Red Hat wore Red Hat fedoras to teach the class in. So this wonderful video you made actually brought back a very serious nostalgia pain with me from the old days of teaching so much Red Hat Linux thanks that was great. I love this little device too by the way
@ThrasherEscapes
@ThrasherEscapes Месяц назад
i've used a few dozen teamgroup mp33 & mp34 drives in various builds over the last 2-3 years & they've all been rock solid. even have 2 of the 4tb mp34 drives in my gaming rig. one of the best values for a reasonable quality drive in the ssd market imo & worthy of a strong recommendation. they have some good values on gen 4 drives that might also be worth your consideration.
@jameslewis2635
@jameslewis2635 Месяц назад
Nice. This CM3588 NAS board is just the kind of thing I have been wanting for a network drive. Hopefully you can purchase a case for it as I don't have a 3D printer. It would be nice if there was a higher end version that allows 4 PCIE lanes for each drive though.
@GeneralJarrett1997
@GeneralJarrett1997 Месяц назад
There are services that you can pay to have them 3D print a thing and ship it for you
@concinnus
@concinnus Месяц назад
As they said, more lanes would be pointless as long as the uplink is 2.5GbE. And if they upgraded the uplink and thus wanted to upgrade the drive lanes, they'd probably need a better CPU to get more lanes. And that better CPU might not even be compatible with the carriercompute module interface. You see the problem.
@GeneralJarrett1997
@GeneralJarrett1997 Месяц назад
Was thinking about building a NAS and just about to pull the trigger after looking for cheaper/small options and Linus goes and throws this out here. Only an ssd so not quite my use case now but I might be able to make something work.
@trulsdirio
@trulsdirio Месяц назад
The big thing with cloud storage to me is not having it all in one place. If my house catches fire or a pipe bursts flooding my home, I don't want all of the copies of my most important files being in there.
@shortanimationz
@shortanimationz Месяц назад
Yeah this is all well and good but I'm happy to pay a "premium" for cloud storage since it's basically one click to set up and it runs independent of whether or not things are fine in my house.
@LostGeburah
@LostGeburah Месяц назад
that's the big difference. this video is mostly a nothing burger.
@JamesR624
@JamesR624 Месяц назад
Exactly. What happens if your house has an issue or even just your internet has an issue? I see so many "stop paying for cloud storage" videos like this and they ALL miss this point, and lo and behold, they're all trying to shill these solutions that end up costing MORE, both in money, and peace of mind. (notice how to make the value seem good, they had to compare to ANNUAL subscription instead of MONTHLY. Sorry but many can afford $10/month a LOT more than $120 RIGHT NOW, and that's not even mentionng you loose all the benefits of cloud storage.
@mrmotofy
@mrmotofy Месяц назад
Did you miss the part about 3-2-1 the 1 is offsite. Which this could work well for
@Deus_wukong1468
@Deus_wukong1468 Месяц назад
@@mrmotofyim sure they didn’t watch the video that far in the first place.
@Joseph_Lico
@Joseph_Lico Месяц назад
This would've been a perfect opportunity to talk about Immich. I've been looking for a NAS specifically to self host all my photos and it looks to have the closest experience to that of Google Photos. Would still be cool to see you guys do a video on it someday.
@AceBoy2099
@AceBoy2099 Месяц назад
Same here, looking for an equivalent to "onedrive" (what i currently use but have to clear space every so often, no monthly plans for me) to do auto backup of photos from my and my families phones to my home seever/nas (TrueNAS).
@ricarmig
@ricarmig Месяц назад
I would like to know if that could be used really as a CLOUD as Dropbox: I configure an app and outside my network, I can just sync as Dropbox things from my laptop or phone to it. Just as a NAS … it’s cool, but lacks what I’m searching.
@dominikreda8445
@dominikreda8445 Месяц назад
@@ricarmig well... Have you heard of NextCloud? You should take a look at r/selfhosted, there's so much cool stuff to host that a dropbox replacement is kinda lame. Also if you just wanna try from my experience the best way is to just do it. I use old laptop as 'server' with linux and use docker, really fun to learn. Anything can be use as server.
@PTSeTe
@PTSeTe Месяц назад
@@ricarmigYou´d want Nextcloud for that not Immich
@tartletboy
@tartletboy Месяц назад
​@@ricarmignextcloud might be what you are looking for. As long as you setup a way of accessing local resources externally, it should be a near drop in replacement for dropbox
@nregames8447
@nregames8447 Месяц назад
You can also set up a shared folder on any device you have! I have an old Pi I have set up like that, could do it with an old laptop etc. too!
@asidsgreed5911
@asidsgreed5911 Месяц назад
Essentially, you can connect a VPN to your home network even without a static IP address, and then use free programs that support SMB or other protocols to access your data inside that NAS, effectively maximizing your privacy.
@JeremieBPCreation
@JeremieBPCreation Месяц назад
I like those more cinematic segments. I prefer actually natural when possible but in those videos Linus is always playing his on-screen character anyway so I enjoy when they lay into the playing aspect. XD
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Месяц назад
If you are using it to store your Steamboat Willie rips (and Linux ISOs) on Plex or Jellyfin, then mechanical drives are fine. A video stream needs about 1-2 IOPS. Mechanical drives do about 50-70 IOPS, SSDs do about 300,000 to 1,500,000 IOPS. Editing videos is obviously a very different matter, and you definitely need SSDs for that.
@mateuszzimon8216
@mateuszzimon8216 Месяц назад
Idk but maybe 3 nvme, 5 Sata SSD it's enough for this configuration.
@katrinabryce
@katrinabryce Месяц назад
@@mateuszzimon8216 My NAS runs on FreeBSD. It is 4 x 10TB Iron Wolves, 2 x 2TB Samsung Evo (2.5" SATA) for ARC2 and 32GB RAM. The ARC Cache (RAM) hit rate is about 99% when I am not streaming videos, so most of the time it is running at RAM drive speeds. Videos open instantly and the network is the bottleneck, but it can handle backups of my store-bought 4k BluRays just fine. I think I could remove the ARC2 and not see any difference. Probably I will at some point and replace those slots with more mechanical drives to increase capacity.
@Deja117
@Deja117 Месяц назад
As someone who done animation for a very short time, SSDs changed my life. I just wish that Linus shown us a video compiling too.
@Kytetiger
@Kytetiger Месяц назад
Lol, i'll re-use the expression with copies of Steamboat Willie 😂
@meateaw
@meateaw Месяц назад
@@mateuszzimon8216 The answer is probably 2 large nvme, and 10 large sata.
@timpenner7858
@timpenner7858 Месяц назад
I really dig the way the budget for a marvelous personal NAS starts out at $100, but the thing we're talking about slides up to several hundred once you add STORAGE - of all things.
@daveg4417
@daveg4417 Месяц назад
All of my seven computer systems have internal Robocopy backup data drives and OS clone drives, external Robocopy backup data drives, a 48TB Asustor backup NAS, an offsite Synology backup NAS accessed via VPN, and some Google Cloud space for the really important stuff. I have a small software business and my data is important to me. I have everything set up so that a batch file backs up to each location. Easy-peasy.
@timeimp
@timeimp Месяц назад
5:18 - 5:19 is the $50 Australian note. Well done Linus!
@shangrilai1990
@shangrilai1990 Месяц назад
Pineapples
@Eilaithen1
@Eilaithen1 Месяц назад
Canada also has plastic money so I had to do a double take on that one
@brodz1y619
@brodz1y619 Месяц назад
Im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed
@raffskid857
@raffskid857 Месяц назад
You should talk about Nextcloud and how to set it up, to make your NAS a true cloud storage solution.
@HaimRich94
@HaimRich94 Месяц назад
Just be aware with exploits and always keep the instance updated, nextcloud has been exploited a lot in the past
@hojnikb
@hojnikb Месяц назад
Unless you actually need all the nextcloud functionality, i'd avoid it at all cost. Instead use one of those simple web based file explorers for remote file access on a PC and/or webdav/scp and a dedicated sync app on your phone. Much less complexity and possibility for exploits.
@Adures
@Adures Месяц назад
Back when I was a student I successfully ran Nextcloud instance serving terabytes of data (usually before exams lol), so I know it is capable platform, but it's just not stable enough to recommend to most people. It's pain in the butt. Nextcloud team is very aggressive with updates, every update will introduce some bugs which may or may not affect you. Don't believe me? Just look at their gihub issues lol (both open and closed). Even minor releases are problematic.
@raffskid857
@raffskid857 Месяц назад
@@HaimRich94 I have mine constantly updated but yeah I’m aware of exploits. That’s generally why I don’t put incredibly important stuff on there and make sure to have backups.
@joshuapettus6973
@joshuapettus6973 26 дней назад
@@hojnikb I got to say what is this concern with the security of Nextcloud? And why would a nobody software solution with limited resources be safer? Nextcloud is at it's heart a Webdav server and you would be hitting all the same security concerns with opening a PC to the internet. At least with Nextcloud, I know the software itself is secure with a large opensource organization behind it. The rest is still on me with any self hosted solution.
@johnnysong9781
@johnnysong9781 14 дней назад
For pretty same prices I opt for Intel N100 with dual 2.5G Ethernet ports, 2 sata ports, a x2 M2 slot with a split board providing 4 slots, yet another x1 m2 e key slot either for WiFi or adapter for more possibilities. All enclosed in a 3D printed chassis.
@LucidThought
@LucidThought Месяц назад
I'd have preferred the old Linus, the very old way this product might have been promoted in the good old 'house' LTT days.. but you've managed to introduce a product that I didn't know about for a need I've been trying to resolve, so for that I'm grateful. I pay for family Office 365, which covers couple of generations of my 'tech' family, so I have a massive amount of online storage (family pics wise) but I recently transitioned over to 2.5GbE ethernet locally and was looking for a more easily/quick local storage, so I could potentially run a local AI to 'filter/sort' through my years and years of backups, of backups, of backups from numerous decommissioned PC's that I've been dreading to do. Less cheese and a bit more 'average user needs' and I might pop back a bit more often.. like I use to do.
@mxss115
@mxss115 Месяц назад
I considered it for a solid second, but I currently only pay $100/year for MS family, and I’ve got 4 people on it, 1TB each. Even if I got a low end config, with 2 cheap 4TB SSDs for redundancy, I’d be looking at $500 min after taxes and shipping on everything. So I’d be looking at 5 year for it pay itself off and I’d lose access to Office. However, if MS raises their prices it’ll definitely make me reconsider.
@nathanross4036
@nathanross4036 Месяц назад
Not to mention you'd probably need to upgrade something in 5 years anyway.
@pe1ucas
@pe1ucas Месяц назад
I'd suggest not to think it as a replacement at first, but as an improvement. So you get the bare minimum and then upgrade it with the years to lessen the total cost.
@fukov3400
@fukov3400 Месяц назад
This would be cool but you’re also looking at $500+ for 8TB of storage these days with prices rising on solid state storage. You could build a NAS with significantly higher capacity spinners for around that much or get the same amount of space for less. You don’t have to spend a lot of money for basic file storage. my NAS is a $30 used mini pc with an i3 6100t.
@herranton
@herranton Месяц назад
Did you watch the whole video? They showed a m.2 to SATA adapter and explained that as a possibility. Also, not everyone needs 1tb of storage. I'd be perfectly content with ~1tb of storage. Four 512gb drives are _a lot_ cheaper. Not everyone stores their Linux isos and steam boat willy rips. Some of us just need photo and document backups.
@fukov3400
@fukov3400 Месяц назад
@@herranton great, you can still do that far cheaper. From a mini pc to something as simple as plugging a flash drive into the USB port on your router (if equipped) or even just creating a file share on a desktop. There’s lots of options out there and this isn’t a bad one but there’s simpler ways to back up and access your files, often with equipment you may already have.
@altokers
@altokers Месяц назад
@@herranton I mean that's still an extra $40 for the adapter. That money could be used on more storage.
@keiranfoster12
@keiranfoster12 Месяц назад
Brilliant idea. I got a used mini PC for £30 here, £7 for an SSD to use as the boot drive, then £160 for a 12TB external HDD, I hooked that up with tailscale and I have that drive acessible anywhere. I also got a 1TB HDD off ebay for £7.50. That's for my duplicates of the important files/ offline/offsite backup. The HDD is more than powerful enough. I tested 10 devices playing back video at the same time off it. It's got an i3 4130t in it I think. SSDs are wasted on projects like this because most of the time you'll be throttled by either gigabit ethernet (125 mb/second max), or if you have the infrastructure at home 2.5 gigabit ethernet (~300 mb/second max). The SSDs go up to 3000-5000 mb/second if they're attached locally. And a high capacity HDD can do (200mb/second+). And if you're away from home you'll be throttled by very slow mobile data, wifi speeds, which at best will probably be gigabit (125 mb/second), and likely far far less. Unless you're in a big big city with 5G everywhere or a very powerful wired fibre connection 2.5Gigabit+ (which again is rare outside major cities / business connections / hotel connections) - it's wasted. Plus you'll also be limited by your home internet connection. I find it hard advocating for bulk SSD storage in something like this at at least 3-4x the price, plus all the extra boards and housing, when you're not going to get or need the throughput. It could be worthwhile if you need a small form factor and hyper power efficiency, will have lots of users using it simultaneously, or are doing direct video editing off it. Or if cost is not an issue to you - that's fine too! If you're not using it super intensively, HDDs can do the job amazingly well. They'll be idle most of the time, except when you're using them. Their capacities go much higher and I'd rather have 12TB of storage for the same price of 4TB SSD drive that will go at the same speed when it's in use.
@stonebubbleprivat
@stonebubbleprivat Месяц назад
​@fukov3400 but you don't have raid with one drive. If it fails, all is gone. I agree that the comparison to Google Drive 10 tb for 50 $/month is unrealistic. I just need 100 gb, if I include the photos from my camera. Also, backblaze offers unlimited backup capacity for 9$/month which would be a much better comparison, because the stated problem was backing up your photos/data from your phone.
@Berecutecu
@Berecutecu 20 дней назад
An alterntative is to get an Intel NUC 9 Pro Kit, it has 3 M.2 slots instead of 4 but it has additionally a slot for a GPU. You can make it not only a photo and video backup server, install a Proxmox and make it a Plex/Emby/Jellyfin server, a Funkwhale server, and live with your data at home
@crushivintage
@crushivintage Месяц назад
Linus Tech Tips, your company's channel and advice videos are still astonishing and I love that you are honest.
@littlejack59
@littlejack59 Месяц назад
I think the biggest problem is how do you set up an off site backup unless you own multiple homes and or own your own buesniess with a shop that has electricity 24/7. If you dont then you have to use a cloud service which defeats the whole point because they probably have redundant backups and they arent cheep enough to justify having that along with your own NAS. Back blaze is a cheeper option and thats still $6 per tb per month. Multiply that by 12 (since 1 of the drives will be redundant) and thats $864 a year.
@Shmuklidooha
@Shmuklidooha Месяц назад
I was planning on this, and the solution for me would be to have the offsite redundancy be held by a family member I can trust. They'd have to make space for it, but in exchange they could also make use it. We would all have our files be password-protected for privacy of course.
@n_core
@n_core Месяц назад
I would say that sharing with a friend who's also interested in data backup and storage could be one of the options. Your friend has their offsite backup to be in your house and your offsite backup to be in their house. I think it's a better mutual benefit rather than using a family member's house who is probably not interested in data redundancy. If your backup goes under, you can go to your friend's house to restore your data.
@pe1ucas
@pe1ucas Месяц назад
It doesn't defeat the purpose, your backup isn't meant to be read directly, it's to restore your main drive, so you can put it into something slow and cheap, and with the current setup of cloud storage your data is fully available to the provider. With a backup you should encrypt your data before uploading it. Also, most probable you don't want to backup all the 12TB, unless you have a very similar need to linus to store and backup a lot of raw footage you'll probably only need less than a TB to store your critical data (i.e. data you can't download again from any other part from the internet) I have around 400GB of data worth backing up in the 3TB I have at home. The rest is media which if I lose I'll just go search to download it again.
@jajssblue
@jajssblue Месяц назад
Elijah wears many hats at LTT
@AarPlays
@AarPlays Месяц назад
Idk why but I heard this in Rolf's voice. "Elijah wears many hats ed-boy"
@herranton
@herranton Месяц назад
He's been promoted. It used to be many helmets.
@nopers2223322
@nopers2223322 Месяц назад
Frodo
@Marco-vp8wl
@Marco-vp8wl Месяц назад
As a network noob I'd be very interested in a video showing how you would set up such a system in a way you can access it from your home network, or even from remote.
@RichardJActon
@RichardJActon Месяц назад
tailscale is VPN that makes this very easy
@bka71
@bka71 3 дня назад
Nice hardware, but there's one thing that's a dealbreaker. I'm talking about the SD card slot. Installing any system on this card is asking for trouble sooner or later. I'm talking about wear leveling and the fact that even Unix-type systems constantly write and overwrite data (such as logs) that can wear out such a card in 1-1.5 years. Unless the manufacturer allows OS installation on a RAID of these NVMe drives, I take back my entire argument :)
@handlesRtrash354
@handlesRtrash354 Месяц назад
lmao old man linus is the best. hope we see him in the future :) honestly more skits like the opener would be rad.
@caleballen1330
@caleballen1330 Месяц назад
A really practical topic and good video! A more detailed cost breakdown would be helpful though as I'm not certain it is always cheaper. You have to include power costs (especially in Europe) drive failures and perhaps double it for the 3-2-1 rule. With Google Drive or iCloud we assume that those things are handled for us. I love tinkering but have yet to nail down a cheap, surefire storage and backup strategy that fulfils 3-2-1
@Tininppa
@Tininppa Месяц назад
and the easy use for cloud without security risk to your home network
@bastienx8
@bastienx8 Месяц назад
In Europe the biggest storage you can have on Google Drive is 2TB for 100€/year, a board like this one with two drives is paid for in 2 years even with power costs since it doesn't consume that much. Your ISP router probably needs more power than this.
@Mikeey1
@Mikeey1 Месяц назад
Yeah, I started the video and thought damn this could be okay but $95 is quite expensive when I can just pay a few $ a year for extra Apple storage and get unlimited photo storage with Amazon Prime. But, I could see it being convenient. To then keep adding bits that make it more and more expensive, to then be talking about a nearly $900 piece of kit in a working state. Sure if you're storing A LOT of films and whatnot, maybe that's of use for you for some reason. But, I can't see why it's even remotely reasonable at those kinds of prices for any normal user who will just have a boat load of pictures and videos they've taken themselves. Just buy an external hard drive and call it a day
@CanIHasThisName
@CanIHasThisName Месяц назад
Power is at most 33€ a year where I live, that's assuming 100% load 24/7 (which isn't realistic). No, Google drive or iCloud do not handle 3-2-1 for you. You can lose data on cloud, it happens. Cloud storage can at best be considered your off-site backup. The biggest hurdle people need to jump over when trying to implement 3-2-1 is realizing that perhaps they don't actually need to have backed up all of their hoarded data. Pretty much anything that can be recovered elsewhere isn't worth backing up. And 3-2-1 should only be applied to things you can't afford to lose. Let's be honest, lots of people hoard stuff they will never actually need. Once you start getting into the off-site part of storage, it's no longer just about the hardware, but also about the fact that you need to have that hardware somewhere. If it's too close to your home, it's exposed to many of the same risks as on-site. And in many use-cases it will actually turn out that Cloud isn't a bad solution, especially for low volume things like photos.
@MrBrax
@MrBrax Месяц назад
​​@@bastienx8but in Europe one of those 4tb ssds cost 440€ each. This project makes no sense here
@ryansalwaysright
@ryansalwaysright Месяц назад
Thank you for this. At the beginning of the year i was looking to build my own cloud and was looking to make it out of my old computer. Not because i cant afford the service but because i hate the accessibility of cloud services most days.
@criticalthinker420
@criticalthinker420 13 дней назад
Yes, now we can store enough pictures to look at one picture every second of every day 24/7 for about six months, finally.
@donkaos501
@donkaos501 Месяц назад
The best way to take down a Website, promote their product :)) love it
@Blake_the_Drake
@Blake_the_Drake Месяц назад
Right? I got on it for about 18 seconds.....annnnnnnnnd it's gone.
@DonPaulo19
@DonPaulo19 Месяц назад
Thank you for covering this, Linus! I looked for a cheap, upgradable NAS with low power consumption for years.
@goku445
@goku445 Месяц назад
That is not it. It's expensive, and it's not the worst... it lacks SATA. You can find much better.
@moonstrobe
@moonstrobe Месяц назад
@@goku445What would you recommend?
@Ehren1337
@Ehren1337 Месяц назад
Yeah.. what do you recommend? What moonstrobe asked.​@@goku445
@PSkinnerTech
@PSkinnerTech Месяц назад
I'm an absolute noob to this, but I am a software engineer. I'm sure there's a learning curve to all of this, but I'm glad I stumbled onto your channel. Questions: - Can you easily set this up to be your "Time Machine" for your Apple Products? I work in web3 and I'm always terrified that someone is going to try to steal my laptops/phone since there's the assumption that they'll get my crypto wallet keys in the process. - The CPU on this specific build you're showcasing is really weak (understandably for the use-case and price point). Do you have any tutorials/guides on possibly building something powerful enough to run your own local LLM/Neural Network?
@PSkinnerTech
@PSkinnerTech Месяц назад
Oh, also... as a video creator that does programming tutorials, you're videos are SO NICE! Very very easy and enjoyable to watch. 10 stars. Got my like and subscribed.
@Splarkszter
@Splarkszter Месяц назад
Woah. Yup. This is awesome! I was trying to build a DIY NAS but couldn't lower it from $400. This is perfect!
@BioToxin
@BioToxin Месяц назад
as a trucker space in the cab is a premium, but I need a nas with me because of how often I'm stuck in areas with either bad or no signal. so this is right up my alley. I've tried the apex board with a cable to put it in a small form factor. I tried the 12 bay flash nas. but there's something very attractive about this so I'm going to try this as well. I think more than likely it'll end up at home and I'll get a few to make a San or something, maybe make one pool for my Plex, one pool for my steam, etc. I am really looking forward to seeing any other versions they come out with. this would be perfect if they pushed out a double side pcb letting you do 8 or more ssds, and maybe a 10g base t though at that point I don't think the chip would handle it. but we're getting there!
@sahilagar
@sahilagar Месяц назад
The first 2 minutes were so well paced I thought it was a TV show, until after the intro I was brought back... AMAZING PRODUCTION
@felipeprenholato2301
@felipeprenholato2301 Месяц назад
I was looking for PCI-e NVME expansion cards, for 4 ssds and even with a fan just yesterday. The good point is that we can use on old ITX boards, but this device is really awesome. I would prefer to put money on upgrade my desktop instead and use my current hardware with pci-e NVME boards.
@JQ_Unity
@JQ_Unity Месяц назад
Didnt even know about this. Glad i waited to buy a NAS. Gonna set this up in triple RAID with some server hard drives.
@Monique-iz8lp
@Monique-iz8lp Месяц назад
Welp, we crashed the site again
@cazdotsys
@cazdotsys Месяц назад
We need more of these interesting and creative intros, they are fire 🔥🔥🔥
@rektide
@rektide Месяц назад
The HDMI-In could, with some significant elbow grease, maybe make this a media-streaming device too, which will save you the purchase of a $100 stream-recorder. You'd definitely need the hardware video encoding to be working (given the small CPU), and it seems like CPU based often has a bit higher quality, but supposedly rk3588 can hardware encode HEVC 4k@120fps! More down to earth, worth mentioning that Jellyfin has hardware encode & decode/transcoding support for rk3588. Not sure what the streaming test was here, but I imagine this board could do a great job at Jellyfin. I do wonder how well it handles simultaneous streams, wonder how capable the encoder is at multitasking (can it do 4x 1080p60)?
@HONjramiroz98
@HONjramiroz98 29 дней назад
This video came right on time, just when my dropbox got stuck syncing... No more dropbox or cloud service for me
@raawesome3851
@raawesome3851 Месяц назад
This is a creative intro 😂
@AnthroBean2906
@AnthroBean2906 Месяц назад
Loved the start and the smooth transition lol
@jgrissinger3805
@jgrissinger3805 Месяц назад
I've always employed used HP business machines as home NAS servers. A $30 dual/quad core Intel box that can fit 3-5 hard drives makes a great addition to a network. I don't need cloud. I will always have my own.
@AaronShumaker
@AaronShumaker 5 дней назад
I had an idea for using ZFS to auto sync backups that would make it really user frienly. It has a feature that lets you send a snapshot to a file, and with the command line you can generate a snapshot that is the diff of a prior snapshot and the current system. It would be a very user friendly feature to be able to plug in a USB drive, have it look at what the most recent snapshot is on that drive, then generate a new snapshot that is the diff of that prior and the current system. It would make it very easy to stagger differential backups between multiple backup devices. I.e. I take backup drive A out, and plug in drive B it pushes a snapshot to bring B up to date. I take A to the vault, grab drive C. I bring C back and plug it in, it gets a different snapshot(since C is further behind all the others, but the system sees its most recent snapshot on drive and does the diff to generate a new snapshot). Etc. Unfortunately the way their GUI integrates with ZFS is all through running commands and then parsing the textual output with python, which is a crazy fragile way to implement an integration.
@Seizuqi
@Seizuqi Месяц назад
I was looking for a home storage server, this vid is perfect timing
@markawilliams4860
@markawilliams4860 Месяц назад
Its been a long time since we've seen you guys do NAS video. Love how small it is, would be awesome as an offsite nas backup.
@goku445
@goku445 Месяц назад
Way too expensive and lacking sata.
@kwlkid85
@kwlkid85 Месяц назад
​@@goku445 M.2 to SATA adapters are cheap
@goku445
@goku445 Месяц назад
@@kwlkid85 That's NVMe. Not the same protocol.
@kwlkid85
@kwlkid85 Месяц назад
@@goku445 Any M.2 to SATA adapter with more than one SATA port will work as they connect via PCIe not SATA
@kwlkid85
@kwlkid85 Месяц назад
@@goku445 It's you who doesn't understand, I'm an IT engineer with decades of experience. Think about those M.2 slots as just small PCIe slots, just like you can get SATA expansion cards for a regular PCIe slot you can also get SATA expansion cards for M.2 slots. They connect over PCIe the same as NVME SSDs.
@tonykeltsflorida
@tonykeltsflorida Месяц назад
I use Playbook as photo storage. No problems and 4TB for free. I have a couple of Crucial portable SSD drives also. This video now gives me an idea for a new project.
@WetOlde
@WetOlde Месяц назад
My one issue with stuff like this is that last time i calculated the yearly power cost, it was on par with a 10$/month subscription with way better integration
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