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Danish Pete compares the Archer and the Archer Ikon. Do they sound the same??

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Комментарии : 217   
@thewaltzinggorilla8533
@thewaltzinggorilla8533 6 лет назад
Now THIS is the way comparison vids should be done. Thank you Andertons.
@minka_nl
@minka_nl 3 года назад
agree!
@ryangunwitch-black
@ryangunwitch-black Год назад
Yes. By an ageless vampire Dane. I think it’s really quite accommodating that Anderton’s allows him to wait until sunset to come shoot videos.
@Paul-dw2cl
@Paul-dw2cl 3 года назад
Ikon. The gold paint-job sounds great
@markn4526
@markn4526 3 года назад
Looks better too!
@facetono
@facetono 8 лет назад
Pete needs his own RU-vid channel. I can watch him play all day. Excellent reference material.
@eckharteric
@eckharteric 7 лет назад
facetono he has one! (If you hadn't already found out in the last year)
@JamFactoryUK
@JamFactoryUK 8 лет назад
Great video, not too worried about which one I get now. Both sound great. Great playing as always Danish Pete.
@dannyblau3850
@dannyblau3850 8 лет назад
Great comparison. I have both on my board right now as always on options. Depending on the amp i'm using, one will be used as an always on, the other as a boost to that. sometimes the always on just depends on the day and the room. You really can't go wrong with either and both are as spot on as you are going to get with either the original silver or the gold. The one notable difference being that you can dime these out to great effect and the originals were never too fond of the dime action.
@jimmybergmooser
@jimmybergmooser 5 лет назад
Great side-by-side comparison! Thanks Pete!
@reijerlincoln
@reijerlincoln 8 лет назад
These vids are very informative - because there's only one variable and no hype. Keep them coming please!
@dunebillydave222
@dunebillydave222 5 лет назад
Well, there is, arguably, a second variable, since Pete isn't doing a blind comparison. His playing, from one demo to the next may very likely change, either from emotion or fatigue, or from his subconscious expectations of each pedal. Subtle, but we're dealing with subtlety - especially in THIS video.
@THE8-BITROAD
@THE8-BITROAD 8 лет назад
It's always a joy to listen how Danish Pete plays :) :) Very tasteful playing ;)
@Claimjumper55
@Claimjumper55 8 лет назад
Archer sounds more crisp and clear. Ikon sounds warmer. Both really good though.
@Bennettcustomaudio
@Bennettcustomaudio 8 лет назад
I bought the Archer Ikon when it came out and i have zero regrets. Such an incredible sounding drive pedal
@michaelbrown3586
@michaelbrown3586 7 лет назад
I like both Archers! Currently I'm stacking the Ikon with a Wampler Euphoria in the "smooth" setting through a Fender Hot Rod Deville 410. All I can say is, "WOW"! The Ikon's a very smooth pedal that's a great booster that will push a quality pedal with class.
@jmacc9876
@jmacc9876 3 года назад
Both sound nice. The silver model clearly has a tad more volume with the output knobs on the same setting. Also minor eq differences. If the volumes were adjusted to be the same (by ear) In a mix, no one would be able to tell a difference.
@jjzuc
@jjzuc 7 лет назад
I have an Archer Ikon and it has a little more mid meat and grit. Great pedal and Danish Pete plays some sweet licks!
@chymist66
@chymist66 5 лет назад
John Zucco yeah that’s what my ears heard Ikon = a little more dirt. Both good though
@Bentones1
@Bentones1 3 года назад
Ikon for me. I bought one used a few years ago and it was more beat up than I thought it would be. Used gear curse.still works great but a little shaky. The guy who sold it to me apparently got it used himself so this thing was gigged for sure but I just ordered a new one. For me to do that I must like it!! And the old one will be a spare. Ha. That’s how good it is. It’s the klon to me. I have a Tumnus as well which I really like. And the soul food which i used a lot at the beginning of my klon-ism. But I think the gold ikon nailed it. I also heard the Bill F teamed up with rockett for the archers. So there it is!!
@charlesg.1207
@charlesg.1207 7 лет назад
Both are great sounding pedals. A must have.
@TheMrZanshin
@TheMrZanshin 8 лет назад
I can't hear a difference I'm sure of but who knows with RU-vid audio compression. Thanks for sharing these videos.
@BadMofoMusicCritic
@BadMofoMusicCritic 4 года назад
Great demo. Both sound good. Ordering the silver
@alphakittyofficial
@alphakittyofficial 8 лет назад
Great job, Pete.
@rabolinger
@rabolinger 3 года назад
Excellent playing!
@HardToBeSomeone
@HardToBeSomeone Год назад
To my ear the Silver seems to shine in the clean setting’s department - The Gold has it in the crunch end, a little darker. Although these differences seem very minimal. Gotta have both would probably be the census. Kudos to your work here Pete. 🤜🏻💥🤛🏻
@glencruciani
@glencruciani 4 года назад
I find it interesting how polarizing people's opinions are sometimes. One guy thinks a pedal is warmer or more compressed than the other, then the next guy says the complete opposite. What I would say from my own experience is that the clarity, perceived headroom, open, and less distorted Silver Archer works better in most live band settings. It will be more touch sensitive, and sit in a full band mix better than the gold, allowing the guitar to stand out more. I find that although many times as guitarists we gravitate to a little more gain, and thicker sounds, they don't always work best in a band setting when you are fighting all the other frequencies. These pedals are not meant to be distortion boxes. They are meant to be edge of break type pedals that give a boost to the front end of an amp, without altering the sound too much....just giving it a little bit more. They also work well for clean sounds that need just a bit of grit to them when you're digging in. IMHO the Silver for the Win.
@RougeLex
@RougeLex 4 года назад
I'm literally fighting between the two and I believe you're correct although I love the gold one I have to admit I like it for the thick tone. Where as the silver one would probably suit me better in a church setting. Having said that I'll probably get both
@geoarthur6593
@geoarthur6593 3 года назад
Correcto ..
@gregalon
@gregalon 3 года назад
Great point. There’s a kind of “openness” that I listen for and the silver version has more of it. Both great choices though. I’d probably take the Ikon for really low gain settings where the silver can sound too thin.
@tommarkle6775
@tommarkle6775 3 года назад
L
@apophispnw5717
@apophispnw5717 3 года назад
Bright, warm, fat, juicy, throaty, boxy, dark, compressed, scooped mids, etc... everyone describes this shit differently. Lol I think a lot of people just don’t know what they’re listening to and say the first thing that pops in their head.
@CaptPostmod
@CaptPostmod 8 лет назад
I swear by my iKon. Great sounding pedal!
@starshineraiser6729
@starshineraiser6729 Год назад
You can’t go wrong. Either one is magnificent.
@ArtDonna84
@ArtDonna84 5 лет назад
Incredible demo Pete. I'm really glad I found it. Cheers
@s9plus20
@s9plus20 4 года назад
Excellent comparison!
@scatlizard
@scatlizard Год назад
Just bought the IKON yesterday and I'm running it after a Route 66. Very impressive on its own and stacked.
@spidgeb3292
@spidgeb3292 2 года назад
Perfect comparison. Thank you!
@tonybrown7847
@tonybrown7847 Год назад
The silver one seems like it has more depth and just a slightly better sound
@bluestwang101
@bluestwang101 8 лет назад
The Archer(Silver) pedal sounded more dynamic, maybe a bit more headroom. IMO
@codynaler6644
@codynaler6644 3 года назад
Really glad I came by this video. I was about to get the ikon, and as far as looks go I like it more, but the original is so much better for what I need. (Worship/ambient jam)
@millershane71
@millershane71 8 лет назад
I like the ikon's warmth, but that's just my personal preference. Both sound really good. I would equate it to the difference between a jtm45 and a newer style Marshall or for example the JCM 800. Both are killer amps but I find that I personally prefer the cleaner and much warmer jtm45. you can turn the bass down or relish in it, I kind of like the bass/mid quality of the sound, especially with vocals I find it provides a much over all fuller sound. you can go crazy with trying pedals with a cleaner amp too, as demonstrated here, they seem to just work better with cleaner amps. although the jcm takes pedals very well too. that's the great news. there is no wrong answer. just personal preference in this case in my humble opinion. you can't really go wrong either way, this just showcases very well what each does. thanks for a great demo!
@BwanaTube
@BwanaTube 2 года назад
It sounds pretty much what you'd expect from Si vs Ge clipping diodes, the Ge clipping at about half the voltage of Si, and having a slightly softer and *grainier* clipping quality.
@eddyrox5150
@eddyrox5150 8 лет назад
Danish Pete- u rock!!! Love your playing style😎😎😎
@ryanhdmc
@ryanhdmc 7 лет назад
I haven't played a great deal of klons/klones In in person but i like the compressed sound of the ikon as much as i do the more open sound of the archer. It may replace my OD808 in many applications. Though i play with an SG instead of a fender into a blues jr and that may compress the sound in my 808 in a way i dislike
@johnzucco3559
@johnzucco3559 5 месяцев назад
I have the Archer Ikon and bought it 2 seconds after trying it out in the store!! Instant gratification!!
@john408smith9
@john408smith9 4 года назад
Archer Ikon it is. Been shopping around for one.
@sgholt
@sgholt Год назад
and 7 years later I bought the Ikon...they pretty much sound alike :)
@davidthomas3725
@davidthomas3725 3 года назад
I have a Archer and love it....they sound the same to me...
@TheAjstanley
@TheAjstanley 3 года назад
Both pedals sound great. I really think these are some of the best OD's on the market. The being said, I think the silver has a slight edge (both figuratively and literally).
@kennyp54
@kennyp54 2 года назад
They are both nice so let's get that out of the way. But for me I find the Gold Ikon a little more compressed and warmer which I like. The silver Archer has a faster attack with a tighter more sparkly top end. I wouldn't kick either one to the curb. The two would probably make a killer dual drive pedal with the ability to select either model on each side, and the option to choose which direction to stack.
@zwoelf160
@zwoelf160 4 года назад
Great Demo. Thx
@RockyH.
@RockyH. 3 года назад
These are two just killer pedals....in my opinion the Ikon is just a little sweeter but, that being said I will choose the the Icon over the original Klon Centaur any day the Centaur has collectable worth other than that- J Rockett knocked it out of the park here!
@VanishingRock
@VanishingRock 8 лет назад
Great demo... I kept finding myself saying the silver one and then the gold in quick succession: just couldn't make up my mind! Both really fantastic pedals. I'd like to see you do a side-by-side comparison demo of Lovepedal Eternity and Hermida Zendrive 😄
@hectorrodriguez5203
@hectorrodriguez5203 6 лет назад
Philip Copping "Buy them both".
@davegordon6737
@davegordon6737 2 года назад
The Gold Ikon is a bit cleaner..low gain..better for blues I think. But both sound better than the Wampler Tumnus!
@EclipseGamingTV
@EclipseGamingTV 8 лет назад
Prefer the sound of the Ikon *apart from* the 3 o'clock position, sounds like it almost hits a sweet spot for the Archer? Both great sounding pedals though
@monkeyxx
@monkeyxx 5 лет назад
while I appreciate the sound of the gold style pedal, the silver style pedal just has that little extra bark or bite that really gets me going
@rongrove1369
@rongrove1369 3 года назад
They sound just about the same to my ear...I own both and as long as one of the two are on my pedal board I'm good.just might turn the treble up a little more when using the gold Ikon
@63caster
@63caster 7 лет назад
Silver is clearer and a little more open with a little more mid bite, the ikon is rounder, warmer and perhaps a bit darker. With the knobs in the same position should it be remeinded...
@davegordon6737
@davegordon6737 2 года назад
Very good demo..wish everyone did it you way..I will now subscribe. Thanks!
@christianboddum8783
@christianboddum8783 8 лет назад
Does it have to be pedals that are available from Andertons at the moment? I'd like to hear an original Marshall BB1 vs. a Morning Glory :-)
@andertons
@andertons 8 лет назад
+Christian Boddum Yeah, it has to be pedals we have in stock. But you are welcome to pick any of those :)
@thearabianmage
@thearabianmage 3 года назад
I have both. The gold is a bit warmer, but they are both equally good pedals.
@u2acrobata
@u2acrobata 3 года назад
HI! ... could you give me an advice ? i usualy use a les Paul into a vox amp ... wich one would you think it would work better ... the Silver or THe Ikon ... ? i just cant buy both .... grrrr ehheeh Thanks! Greetings from Portugal Stay Safe!
@Mudd1429
@Mudd1429 7 лет назад
I've been listening to this video in the background as I'm working. Every time the silver one was on, my ears would perk up and I'd rewind to hear it again. Never happened to me with the gold. Sounds more clear, articulate and just better than the gold. Gold is just a little too muffled, silver wins!
@spidgeb3292
@spidgeb3292 2 года назад
I thought the gold cut better. Interesting!
@k-dogstor1170
@k-dogstor1170 2 года назад
Yep. Gold is a bit woolier. More little tube screamer
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 года назад
Thanx for your opinion. The so-called warm pedals of any kind on their own sound noticeable fuller but that warmth sounds like mud once a drummer and bass player kick into the mix.
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 года назад
@@spidgeb3292 The Gold has nothing to cut thru. Add a drummer and a bass player and it will be a different story.
@jackbinkleymusic
@jackbinkleymusic 2 года назад
@@Paul_Lenard_Ewing well considering that the ikon has a higher mid hump then yes, it does have something to cut with. More over, one thing I don’t think you realize is that potentiometer resistance varies by each batch of pots, you can boost the treble on the ikon if you feel it’s a bit darker. I believe a more accurate comment would be that the ikon is not compressed hand has a lower volume in the setting it was shown compared to the silver archer at noon
@michaelevans512
@michaelevans512 8 лет назад
I like the silver one better for a clean boost.
@phantom370
@phantom370 7 лет назад
so what would be better an archer or a Blues driver?
@ChrisLarsenOfficial
@ChrisLarsenOfficial 8 лет назад
definitely more mids and compression going on in the ikon, interesting.
@fendermcmarshall
@fendermcmarshall 4 года назад
Any reason why not to stack em?
@marcospintor1333
@marcospintor1333 5 лет назад
I think i liked the silver one more. But I would have to play them in person.
@joeguynan
@joeguynan 8 лет назад
Well I own the original Archer and I think it is clear to say that the Ikon has more gain as the gain pot is wound up, but to my ears the original Archer sounds more authentic and vintage.
@heymrguitarman7637
@heymrguitarman7637 8 лет назад
Nice comparison but both pedals sound much better going in to an almost clean amp to cause a bit more breakup. I own both and they are very similar to say my band don't care which is on my board. The difference is more or less just EQ anyway save for a touch more compression but it's minimal. Both great pedals
@alicantequeverquehacer1354
@alicantequeverquehacer1354 5 лет назад
Does the ikon sound more compressed? I mean, does the silver archer seem to be a fuller sounding pedal than the ikon ?
@samcross6204
@samcross6204 8 лет назад
How about the Little Green Wonder against the TS808??
@ameer_saban
@ameer_saban 8 лет назад
I don't think it matters which one of these you get - the differences are negligible.
@CarlosCandidoMusic
@CarlosCandidoMusic 8 лет назад
At 12 o'clock it's easy to hear the Ikon is warmer and has more sustain. I agree both are great, but there is a difference. Cheers
@mindgoblin7068
@mindgoblin7068 3 года назад
Why didn’t you max the treble and gain so we could hear the different characteristics of each
@jensenbell
@jensenbell 7 лет назад
The IKON in this video is more open in the upper frequencies than the silver one. The silver one seems better suited to Strats, while the Ikon would probably do better with Gibson HB and P-90 pickups.... maybe even Teles.
@Morte_Deus
@Morte_Deus 3 года назад
High gain amp guy here, soldano's and boogies...the silver klon stays on ...period.....home and live. It cuts through the mix better than the Ikon. I use EMg and fishmans so maybe the acitve pickups make a difference. The gold Ikon just got pushed too hard with active pickups and gets muddy. The silver i gut keep the output at 11 oclock, the treble at about 1 ocklock and the drive is barely on at 6-8 oclock
@paulblanchet542
@paulblanchet542 2 года назад
I have a silver one, which I love, but might need to get a goldie as well ;)
@WaRLoKWYATT
@WaRLoKWYATT 8 лет назад
I want one of those sooo bad. uhg.
@nitemunky76
@nitemunky76 8 лет назад
Silver one is has slightly more output and more compression. Differences are very slight though.
@psilocypher
@psilocypher 5 лет назад
nitemunky76 I hear more output on the silver, but more compression on the ikon.
@kolombijec
@kolombijec 3 года назад
..and 5 years into the future im buying my archer ikon..so i hear...'quite different' archer and Klon...and yet...without watching switching between the two i would not be able to hear when the change happens...archer ikon..good enough..great enough...(Dan..u've changed sooo much...in a good way-...no need to panick if u r watching this 5 years prior to my comment..;) )
@jfar3340
@jfar3340 3 года назад
why not a tumnus
@pickledblues
@pickledblues 8 лет назад
Watched this video and bought one immediately. Sorry Anderton's but you haven't opened a US store yet...yet.
@stacks4943
@stacks4943 4 года назад
pickledblues Which one did you buy..? Are you still happy with it..?
@joshphelps5985
@joshphelps5985 8 лет назад
Could chapters and the captain do amp demos like Marshall JCM 800 , both the 1959 plexis and cool Marshall heads like those. 🎸😄
@andertons
@andertons 8 лет назад
+Josh Phelps Hi Josh, pop over on Chappers channel, he has been using the JCM800 on a couple of he's recent videos.... #loud :)
@SGspecial84
@SGspecial84 7 лет назад
Minimal difference between the two. The Ikon sounds a bit smoother and softer, but again this means absolutely nothing playing live.
@gdo6927
@gdo6927 3 года назад
Truest comment ever. You would never tell the difference when live and loud. Thank you
@11calman
@11calman 2 года назад
I think maybe (And this is hindsight because here in NZ it is 2022) you should have had someone else doing the adjustments
@OzziePete1
@OzziePete1 8 лет назад
To my crappy ears, the Ikon seems to have a more smoother, mild gain EQ as you go up. There's very little between the 2 pedals & if you wanted a "Klon" ish sound either would do to be honest.
@davidjameschamberlain
@davidjameschamberlain 8 лет назад
ikon wins in my opinion. I'd love to see a muff style fuzz shootout
@moetarded7757
@moetarded7757 2 года назад
I will need to get both then……right?
@tillkochy2169
@tillkochy2169 4 года назад
I compared the two pedals, in my opinion the Archer have way more headroom and clarity an the Ikon is smoother and don't have that headroom. That was really irritayting to me .
@axeljespersen8307
@axeljespersen8307 8 лет назад
Has Pete ever challenged you to say: "rød grød med fløde"?
@chris.dm8372
@chris.dm8372 2 года назад
More bass on the silver??
@dandelionboy7820
@dandelionboy7820 2 года назад
They seem exactly the same except the archer has more dynamic range via less compression which makes for more volume. What i will say is that I owned the gold running into a revv d20 with a tele. If you are using a compressor get the archer. The ikon is almost a compressor on its own
@christophercortez7191
@christophercortez7191 6 лет назад
I dont know which one comes closer to sounding like the OG KLON, but the silver sounds a bit less bright. I favor the silver.
@berraboi9935
@berraboi9935 4 года назад
Di Caprio brother?
@chrisgrabowski2678
@chrisgrabowski2678 5 лет назад
I think the Silver Archer has a bit more compression. As for those from Dec 2015, I'm from the future. Fix Flint's water problem in 2016; it's still happening in 2019.
@bgmnzz
@bgmnzz 8 лет назад
Hey, Danish Pete, have you heard about the Captain's idea of all the Anderton's presenters doing a gig together?. Personally, I think it's great, I hope somebody films it, and I hope we get to see it!. And Captain, how about some videos with Hannah AND Nastassja demoing audio and PA stuff? I bet they would do great. !!!
@danishpete
@danishpete 8 лет назад
Nope, but I am up for it ;)
@bgmnzz
@bgmnzz 8 лет назад
+Peter Honoré Cool. One last question, does Mick have a RU-vid channel?
@danishpete
@danishpete 8 лет назад
+bgmnzz Not sure... Sorry
@micktaylor8350
@micktaylor8350 8 лет назад
Love this idea! I do have a YT channel, but nothing on it yet. I'm so green to all this. :0)
@danishpete
@danishpete 8 лет назад
+Mick Taylor So green. Like your patch cables? ;)
@chymist66
@chymist66 5 лет назад
Archer for clarity, Ikon for that little bit of extra dirt.
@Saixtanwar
@Saixtanwar 8 лет назад
I'm thinking £39.99 for the tone city version is hard to ignore.
@adamboulton5560
@adamboulton5560 5 лет назад
What one is that called?
@everetbaker7619
@everetbaker7619 4 года назад
@@adamboulton5560 Sweet Cream
@kaibartling7085
@kaibartling7085 4 года назад
Nope. Tone City Klon-style pedal is the Bad Horse.
@karlhenrikarendt
@karlhenrikarendt 8 лет назад
Archer Ikon vs. Wampler Tumnus
@AlVixan
@AlVixan 8 лет назад
Yes! I would love to see this too!
@andertons
@andertons 8 лет назад
+Karl-Henrik Arendt Well, lets see what we can do :).
@rafaelostos-tapia9129
@rafaelostos-tapia9129 8 лет назад
so, what's new? :)
@chymist66
@chymist66 5 лет назад
+1 from me too!
@macgrory
@macgrory 8 лет назад
Humbuckers would have been nice... Can't say I heard much difference between them after straining with a pair of high quality headphones on. Any differences would get lost in the mix very early on. Seems a bit pointless. I own an Archer!
@jkay6361
@jkay6361 Год назад
Having owned a klon I can say j rockett makes spot on copies. The ikon is more closer to the original but not by much.
@Howzernn
@Howzernn 3 года назад
I prefer the ikon for high gain, archer for low
@samleyf
@samleyf 8 лет назад
Shouldn't the title be changed to 'ikon'?
@andertons
@andertons 8 лет назад
+samleyf It should :).
@BenCaffrey
@BenCaffrey 8 лет назад
Can we do a new shootout. Danish Pete Vs Swiss Tony.
@danishpete
@danishpete 8 лет назад
Who is this Swiss Tony you talk about ;)
@BenCaffrey
@BenCaffrey 8 лет назад
Peter Honoré talking about Swiss Tony.............is like making love to a beautiful woman.
@theguitargamer3372
@theguitargamer3372 2 года назад
I have the Silver and I wouldn't trade it for any other drive in that price range
@BoyAditya
@BoyAditya 8 лет назад
i don't know.... ikon seems a bit warmer than the original one... sounds more "klon" ...
@BoyAditya
@BoyAditya 8 лет назад
the original great at bottom end tho ...
@DSilvergun
@DSilvergun 3 года назад
So basically I need both??
@FKnoph
@FKnoph 8 лет назад
Can you compare a Tone City King of Blues to Mick's King of Tone?
@danishpete
@danishpete 8 лет назад
I have my own KOT ;). But Andertons doesn't sell it so not sure if that's possible.
@FKnoph
@FKnoph 8 лет назад
+Peter Honoré Good point :-) But anyway, the Archer shootout was great, and I look forward to seeing you in more Andertons videos. Your playing is brilliant! :-)
@zfatbcvxbthsbcv
@zfatbcvxbthsbcv 2 года назад
That strat is a beaut. Silver is tighter than the gold imo.
@montyderhak
@montyderhak 6 лет назад
silver sounds more "open" less compressed and mid mucky
@brandog5702
@brandog5702 Год назад
Here I am. 7 years later. Watching this after I already bought the gold one. It was only $20 more so... fuck it 🤟
@ROBYRH4
@ROBYRH4 2 года назад
Gold 💪
@marvinmealer4993
@marvinmealer4993 4 года назад
I'm debating over these two. I play a Strat and an SG through a Fender 65 DRRI. I'm worried the original will be too bright for the Strat and the Ikon may get muddy with the SG. Any suggestions?
@jamusic84
@jamusic84 4 года назад
Marvin Mealer are you using live or in studio?
@marvinmealer4993
@marvinmealer4993 4 года назад
I play live but ended up going with Tumnus.
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