PEDALS FOR SYNTHS: beef up ANY synth with this OVERDRIVE

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Today I am reviewing an overdrive pedal that I think works well for synths. If you like my videos support them at / bobeats
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@BoBeats 3 года назад

If you want to pick up a Drumbrute use these affiliate links: Drumbrute (EU) redir.love/Uvzgj9Oa (US) imp.i114863.net/xBX63 Drumbrute Impact: (EU) redir.love/FjZcqKz8 (US) imp.i114863.net/LJod3 (Affiliate links means I get a small commission if you buy something, and its a great way to support the channel)

@alexdwmgzi Год назад

With distortion pedals, an interesting technique is parallel processing. Split the synth signal off into a mixer, and mix a little bit of the original signal back in with the distortion. This works best with rhythmic sounds with a sharp attack (such as drums), as you can lose some of the 'punch' with distortion, and parallel processing brings it back.

@NoirEtBlancVie 4 года назад

Sounds good, I actually need to get an overdrive pedal back in my setup. I love pedal artwork, like there should be a BIG book of pedal artwork!

@kmontzka 4 года назад

Maybe Kim Bjorn’s new book Pedal Crush will fill the need :)

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

@Noir Et Blanc Vie, thank you! Glad you enjoyed! Our artworks are generative designs :)

@damondarkwalker 4 года назад

Just bought the DB, and found your channel. Thank you for these vids!

@localtechnique 4 года назад

Be careful Bo. People who think eurorack is addictive never dabbled with pedals :) BTW the 808 was from Ibanez, not Boss.

@BoBeats 4 года назад

Ibanez! I stand corrected sir

@localtechnique 4 года назад

@@BoBeats I tend to watch almost as many pedal demos on RU-vid as synth ones. JHS Pedals have a great vlog if you want to discover some hidden gems and learn some history along the way. As for favourite pedals, I've always had a soft spot for the Boss DD-3. Also love my PS-3. One of the coolest pedals Boss ever put out. The Zoom MultiStomp pedals are also pretty good. They won't outperform a H9 but they also cost a fraction of the price. And the MS-70 and MS-100 are stereo which is handy for a lot of synths.

@danpreston564 4 года назад

Local Technique I love the JHS vlogs, his enthusiasm is infectious, and I love the way he bigs up other manufacturers.

@monsirto 4 года назад

Anyone with a synth who does not have a Polara or similar is losing money by not buying one.....

@professorpancakes6545 4 года назад

I think the ts808 was actually created by maxon before ibanez used the circuit? And it was initially based on a boss pedal lol.

@mattsynth 4 года назад

In the past I have use a rack mounted multi effect processor but today synths come loaded with great effects built right in, and there parameters can be saved right along with the patch, bonus.

@joshuasigman 4 года назад

My favorite pedal for synths is the Digitech Luxe. It pitch-shifts your signal in tiny increments and mixes it back in to the original signal, sounding like you've doubled the number of oscillators in your synth. Fine control, great build quality, makes budget synths sound huge.

@strangeoscillator1327 4 года назад

Nice video Bo ! Good pedal for sure. The Empress Zoia is a great pedal for synths too (in fact it's a modular synthesizer in pedal form).

@Lorneplumber 4 года назад

I've had good result from strymon deco drive and the added other side is a bonus

@goodboid 4 года назад

I use the Godeater fuzz/distortion pedal from Animal Factory Amplification on my Drumbrute Impact. Sounds incredible.

@monsirto 4 года назад

Great video , interesting approach to the concept of a drive pedal. I like. I currently use some crappy old HM distortion pedals and a TC Tube Pilot....sssssssalright...not too spesh spesh but it do the job.

@mikehydropneumatic2583 4 года назад

Boss DS-1 is also nice on DrumBrute Impact. Boss RE-20 (space echo) and Strymon BlueSky on my Subsequent and a Boss CH-1 on KARP Odyssey. Still in need for a delay for vocoder.

@NevilleHayfield 3 года назад

Another cool video Bro 👊💪👏. Found u on Facebook 🙏

@sp3ct3rsd3mos 4 года назад

sounds pretty good man. i use pedals 98% on everything other than guitars.

@chrislynch9364 4 года назад

I still have my 20+ year old zoom G2 that’s great for synths but I’m beginning to think of the empress zoia as a possible upgrade.

@mikeexits 4 года назад

I think it's cool that you can get a used FX pedal for a setup for about $50, that's how much I got my Boss PH-3 for. Only issue is, you have to have certain wires plugged into the input and output for it to start using battery power. I still haven't figured it out yet, or what kind of wall plug it uses, haha. One day. After watching this though I've added a distortion pedal to my wishlist, along with reverb and delay.

@caesarisestube 3 года назад

Thnaks for the video!!! I have a question about the connexions . If you record guitar pedals as effects for audio (I mean just with the interface ,and NOT recording from guitar-pedals -amp), the main rule would be to use a Reamp Box or similar to affect the Raw Audio Track (previously recorded into your DAW) and have more flexibility for when to use different pedals along the track by turning them on/off and also changing parameters. That would be like reamping but with pedals. You could mike the amp recording the sound of the amp from the mic into the interface or go straight from the pedals avoiding the amp into the interface directly as in a loop if you use a box like the RADIAL EXTC -SA. I am no expert at all but this is what I understood from the videos i watched here on youtube. The explanation would be trying to avoid to record the signal from pedals directly into the interface just by themselves since they seem to have a different impedance. My question is : how do you record when using pedals with synths? Is the general rule of thumb to go from the synth into the pedal and directly into the interface? Do you record the synth as LINE level on the interface?? Sorry about the long explanation but I don't know if people just try different things or if there is a general agreement on how to do it.

@michaelkonomos 2 года назад

Question - I am into synths and drum machines, and I like what I am hearing here, but I am concerned about mono. Like if I'm running a drum machine through this, or something like the model cycles, is it going to make my song sound worse if everything is in mono? Will I have to record six takes to get everything mixed into stereo? Anyone have any advice?

@oliverakadjrunnerspoint5742 4 года назад

I had this idea when I bought the drumbrute 2 years ago and I bought a Boss Ds 1 distortion pedal ... but it never worked because I had a lot of buzz as soon as I turned up the effect and this problem I could never solve it

@Daphoid 4 года назад

My dillema currently is applying effects to multiple synths / groove boxes in my collection. I can currently put them all into my audio interface and apply effects with Logic Pro - but if I have external pedals like this, its easy to apply it to one at a time before the interface - but whats the best way to handle multiple devices getting effects? Do you go down the mixer route with FX sends (2-4 so you can have a handful of pedals available?) Do you end up with multiple of the same type (say multiple delays so you can add differing amounts of delay per device?) Or do you just stay digital for ease of use but more mouse clicking and computer bound workflow?

@TheAmazingSnarf 4 года назад

i chose your first methodology. it worlks well for me. i use 2 small, identical 4 channel Mackie boards, the first dealing with source inputs (synth, samplers and external effect pedals baked into the signal as needed), and then send that stereo signal to the second board. on board two, it's where i use the method you mentioned: the FX send has the fancy pedals ( that i'm becoming addicted to ) and i just dump the effected signal back into spare inputs -in my case, the 'tape in' inputs on the board. out there in the wild, is there an easier, simpler, more logical way to get to the same place? i'm sure of it. but, it's important to know oneself: half of the fun, for me, is thinking of new signal path routing and running cable to see if something works. oh, and to address loopback issues between my interface and the DAW: my final send out of board two goes to a 1979 Teac A-300 stereo cassette deck. recording to tape in 2020 seems to some, who maybe have never recorded to tape, to be antithetical heresy- and that's half of the reason i do it.

@detroitologist 2 года назад

Distortion that doesn't kill and add that high frequency shrill. This really sounds pleasing. And I am rooted in the harder Detroit sound but distortion these days is just not usable or danceable in my opinion. Fine for bedroom knob twiddlers. Need to look more at this one. Thanks for the Video!

@TheGreatPanicker 3 года назад

Do you have a video showcasing the Drumbrute?

@luisbarrera5740 9 месяцев назад

They need more stereo overdrive pedal on the market.

@olg88 4 года назад

I like Tilde Elektriske Kretser // Mudder - Distortion Pedal

@Medniex 4 года назад

Nice sounding pedals.

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

Thank you! Glad you enjoyed them! ❤️

@PsyCodeqz 3 года назад

if only if i was into gabber crunchies, would be interested in hearing how it affects high frequencies in sylenth

@alexovercast3359 4 года назад

It's cool but I think you'd be better off running a distortion off mixer sends into a stereo distortion and then returning it on the same desk in stereo with EQ to kind of get a parallel distortion blended against the mix. My two faves are the TC mojomojo and EHX Operation Overlord.

@charlesandrewmoore8699 3 года назад

That EHX Operation Overlord Allied looks dope! How does it sound compared to say a Rat or Big Muff? Not that I'm aware of their having stereo options.

@chriscooley1409 4 года назад

Hey Bo, do you have any recommendations for compressor pedals? I am looking for both a solid distortion and compression pedal for my DFAM. Keep doing awesome things, brother! Hope you and yours are staying healthy!

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

Unless you're looking for a compressor for some specific task, Overdrive/Distortion also acts as a compressor since it smooths peak while adding harmonics/grit/character and increasing overall signal. Our Splinter works like a charm with drum machines! :) Hope this helps!

@chriscooley1409 4 года назад

@@chiralityaudio Thank you! I will check it out!

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

@@chriscooley1409 glad to help! Do not hesitate to contact us if you need further information. :)

@detroitologist 2 года назад

@@chiralityaudio I think that the Splinter sounds great on the synth and drum machine. Coming from the darker sounds of Detroit Techno I''m looking for a distortion and saturation pedal but a lot of pedals are just too much distortion I think and then there's that added higher frequency shrill I don't like. This distortion is really pleasing. And thanks for the info about compression which helps answer the question, do I need another pedal for compression? Not really.

@digitaldiezel5870 Год назад

I use the Soul Food for this. Try that as an alternative, this sounds a little bit too muffled. This has more control options though.

@SAHOYT71013 4 года назад

I'll tell you one thing I've discovered running synth gear through pedals: input volume will make/break the sound. Guitar pedals are designed to run at considerably lower volume than most synth gear is capable of outputting (instrument level vs. line level), and in many cases that input volume can shape the tonal characteristics of a pedal.

@BoBeats 4 года назад

Yepp, very true. Its quite important to not go too crazy on the input

@kylekennedy3299 4 года назад

So run through a mixer first and mix in an effects loop? I’m not too savvy with routing but it makes sense to me. I’ve always just cranked down the instrument output level when needed but it’d be nice to have a smooth setup to work with

@SAHOYT71013 4 года назад

@@kylekennedy3299 no, just keep output volume of gear feeding into pedals low to start, and experiment with different volumes to taste.

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

Good point, that's why we design our pedals to accept +4dBu input/line level, so they can work very well with your synths! :)

@nicolasboutant9406 3 года назад

808 overdrive pedal (TS-808) isn't a Boss product but an Ibanez one.

@DEEPMOSES 4 года назад

Its still mono right? Better option for drum machines would be the EHX Overlord stereo overdrive pedal, check it out

@BoBeats 4 года назад

most mono synths are mono, i dont think I would use overdrive on most of my stereo synths

@adamkrasneski3679 4 года назад

Anyone have tips on distortion for stereo instruments? Particularly being able to push 1 button/pedal to turn off/on distortion on panned drum outputs.

@charlesandrewmoore8699 3 года назад

considering the variance in chip/diode tolerances, one would have a have tough time finding matched pairs of pedals. so you're likely to get phase issues. i run mono into my drive pedals and then reintroduce stereo at the time based fx ends of my pedal chains. then again, i'm also running all that into a board w panning anddditional eq, so i have a lot of control. hardware i/o routing with alot of signal control is the answer for me! and a million times more fun to play on than in the box, too.

@adamkrasneski3679 3 года назад

@@charlesandrewmoore8699 hey man, thanks for responding and the input. Found a workaround using an on board effect and sampling, but i may try the tce overlord pedal. Ill have to see if it handles the inherent issues u mentioned.

@charlesandrewmoore8699 3 года назад

@@adamkrasneski3679 Sharing is caring! And yeah that Overlord Allied model looks sick! Def considering adding one to the arsenal. Please let us know what you think if you get one!

@scorinth 4 года назад

Okay, but where can I get 19-inch rackmount units that do these?

@BoBeats 4 года назад

some manufacturer read this? Give us rack mounted overdrive!

@localtechnique 4 года назад

Gamechanger Audio have a rack version of their Plasma Drive pedal. Back in the 80's ProCo also put two RAT distortions into a rack unit called the R2DU. Those are the only two I know offhand but I'm sure there's more if you dig around.

@eternalvoid2678 4 года назад

There are soooo many tubescreamer clones/pedals based on that circuit. Why this rather obscure one?

@mattayers3794 4 года назад

I agree and why a pedal that costs nearly double of what other tube screamers cost. This pedal doesn't seem to have much more functionality than the new Earthquaker Plumes pedal and it's still only $100. Just my opinion.

@valley_robot 4 года назад

Moer and beringher pedals start from £15.00 good way to build a pedal board, it’s how I built my cheap guitar rig , I can not recommend the beringher “reverb machine” enough , about £25.00 used , has an amazing space echo with adjustable trails also the beringher analogue delay pedal, about £15.00 new, fantastic for adding tape style wobble

@distortimus7631 3 года назад

I have them both. 45€ for some great effects!

@viero7632 4 года назад

Could you explain what cable you used to connect the pedal into the Drumbrute?

@Pamberjack_ 3 года назад

9:17 HELL YES!

@env4n3 4 года назад

chirality i assume would be pronounce KAI RAL IT EE hard ch sound like chiropractor

@BoBeats 4 года назад

i am sure they will let me know. the mispronounciations will continue. i avoid saying circuitry still.

@Roderick_Legato 4 года назад

Well now we have to hear you say it. (btw it's SIR-ki-tree)

@mgscheue 4 года назад

I think that's right. As in chiral molecules and such.

@Popart-xh2fd 4 года назад

What is the difference between Overdrive and Saturation? I ask this because Digitakt has only Overdrive and I suspect that both things are the same...

@mikeexits 4 года назад

I believe Overdrive is more like a heavy guitar type distortion, whereas Saturation is more of a soft, subtle distortion which fattens the sound up a bit. I don't really know more than that, so I can't get more specific than that. There's another distortion type called Fuzz

@SAHOYT71013 4 года назад

Overdrive is subtle distortion, originally named/modeled from the effect of signal breakup/extra harmonics induced by vintage gear pushing volumes past the point that they could maintain the sound's original tone. A lot of early hard rock involved guitarists cranking the volume controls of their amplifiers so that the signal started overloading the preamps inside of them; this was before/just after effects pedals started being sold in any great numbers. Saturation (in my mind at least) is more of a studio type thing; some vintage gear, e.g. compressors, mixing consoles, microphone preamps are designed in such a way that when pushed, the signal doesn't drive so much as emphasizes certain parts of the audio spectrum (in essence makes it come across thicker/heavier), sort of an in-between of compression and overdrive/distortion. At that, compression is really just distortion made to react at certain input volume/time constraints, often slow enough that it doesn't clip/distort, it just adjusts volume intuitively or even saturates the signal.

@dennisristow2102 4 года назад

As a synth player, I have become addicted to pedals. Bass guitar-centric pedals work especially well on synths as they are capable of handling the low frequency spectrum of synths. Another one of my favorite is the DOD Gonkulator which I run my TR-77 thru. Distortion combined with the ring mod on a cheesy beat makes it just plain nasty. Only for Hogan's Heros fans ;).

@chiralityaudio 4 года назад

@Dennis We love low end, that’s why we designed the Splinter so it can guarantee huge and clear bass response :) When used in the "L" position it can enhance the sub lows of your instrument while adding harmonics and texture. Hope this helps!

@BTsMusicChannel 3 года назад

it's almost worth it just to get hold of that purple knob.

@mathieudehouck9657 4 года назад

Zoia ? Ok, I troll a bit.

@env4n3 4 года назад

but yeh nice pedal , like a mini analogue heat

@michaelbarrow7239 3 года назад

808 was an old Ibanez pedal , the ts808 a somewhat mid humped drive. Also maybe the most copied pedal out there

@BoBeats 3 года назад

Thanks! Not a big pedal or guitar guy so its nice learning a bit about that. Thanks

@CraftWon 4 года назад

One day these pedal companies will realize that making more stereo pedals will make them a lot of money from us synth heads. Until then, they will continue to miss out.

@rostamostmann9657 4 года назад

Poor ibanez/maxon

@noobslayerr9732 3 года назад

Ooorrr. u get a rytm and save you 1000 euros of pedals 🤷‍♂️🙃

@BoBeats 4 года назад

Samples (one shots and a few loops) will be released on Patreon this week + an exclusive video on the last setup I showcased in this video :) www.patreon.com/bobeats