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Penn Jillette on Donald Trump, Masks, Abortion, and Libertarianism

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The larger, louder half of Penn & Teller on Donald Trump, COVID, masks, vaccines, mandates, and what comes next for freedom.
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00:00 Open
6:16 Bob Dylan
20:39 “I’ve never been a spokesperson for libertarianism.”
23:29 Donald Trump
31:46 Libertarianism is about optimism
33:21 Abby Hoffman is like Donald Trump
36:10 “That libertarians would be at the forefront of masks and vaccines.”
32:46 Executive power
46:25 Getting fired by Trump
49:29 Trump was “killing fewer people than Obama”
1:00:12 Shutting down Vegas for COVID
1:04:48 The word “libertarian” got “slopified”
1:09:53 The problems with libertarianism when dealing with a virus
1:15:24 The TSA as a misguided reaction to 9/11
1:19:03 “When the COVID vaccine hits the anti-vaxxers will shut up!”
1:23:28 Internet’s impact on public discourse
1:25:00 How the world is getting better
1:29:28 Getting rid of the electoral college
1:32:55 Abortion
1:36:22 Global warming
1:38:10 Political tribalism
1:44:04 Obama’s sensibility vs. Trump’s
1:47:18 Veganism and losing weight
1:48:38 “Everything is Hillary Clinton’s fault”
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"A lot of the illusions that I held dear-rugged individualism, individual freedoms-are coming back to bite us in the ass," Penn Jillette told Big Think in July 2020, the first summer of the COVID pandemic. "Libertarianism has been so distorted that I don't know if I have to pull my name out of that ring. It's been adopted by people who don't seem to hold the responsibility side of it and don't seem to hold the compassion side of it."
For decades, Penn-the larger, louder half of the performing duo Penn & Teller-has been among the best-known spokesmen for libertarian ideas and attitudes in politics and culture. But he says that the 2016 election of Donald Trump-whom he knows well and loathes from his days on The Celebrity Apprentice-and the COVID pandemic have forced him to rethink whether he wants to continue to be publicly associated with the broader libertarian movement.
"I can see arguments for not wearing seatbelts and I can see arguments for not wearing motorcycle helmets," he told Big Think two years ago. "But I cannot see any argument for driving drunk and that is what not wearing a mask is. It's not risking yourself, it's risking the people around you."
For many Americans, though, trillions in wasted spending, contradictory guidance from public health officials, arbitrary school and business shutdowns, and policies like closing beaches and outdoor dining have made them more skeptical of government power and expertise.
So why did the 2016 election and the pandemic cause one of the libertarian movement's most important public figures to go in the other direction?
Has libertarianism changed-or has Penn?
Reason's Nick Gillespie caught up with him in Las Vegas on the set of his popular podcast Penn's Sunday School to talk about Trump, COVID restrictions, and whether his view of the world has really changed. Also joining the conversation was Matt Donnelly, the cohost of Penn's Sunday School.
Produced by Nick Gillespie; camera by James Marsh and Noor Greene; edited by Brett Raney and Adam Czarnecki.
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@lonestar2078 2 года назад

dude was celebrating Newsom's victory over the recall. he's no longer libertarian

@FWDSUXARSE 2 года назад

Yeah he's authoritarian now.

@Frilleon 2 года назад

He did??

@vidyanandbapat8032 2 года назад

Newsom is a staunch Anti-gunner getting funded by Bloomberg and Soros. Anyone who supports Newsom doesn't deserve to be called a libertarian.

@Force1Com 2 года назад

You can never really trust these people. They always have to sell their brand.

@holidaytrout5174 2 года назад

Source?

@lostallmymoney2082 2 года назад

He was for libertarianism when the evangelical was more powerful. He was actually a leftist the entire time. He’s not actually a libertarian.

@cucubanana4226 2 года назад

That is exactly what i suspected. Some people don't realize they are leftists because they are not that introspective.

@Nah_Bohdi 2 года назад

@@cucubanana4226 Reminds me of the flag ball meme of smiling Anarcho-Communist mask over an angry all red ball behind it .

@fyrchmyrddin1937 2 года назад

Narrator: Evangelicals were never powerful

@leslieann6102 2 года назад

Exactly... the things he most railed against was censorship of porn and other easy issues to pick apart. Especially since back then people didn't furiously attack and cancel. I loved Bullshit, even though i was way too young to be watching it lol.

@churblefurbles 2 года назад

@@fyrchmyrddin1937 This is true, it was Tipper Gore going after rap music, a battle over Walmart shelves, pales in comparison to what happens today.

@WakeRunSleep 2 года назад

I don’t know how a borderline libertarian can’t come out of 2020 thinking the government should have less power

@shawnmichaels1150 2 года назад

Yep. Makes you question all of his instincts.

@kanaric 2 года назад

I came out thinking the government needs the power it had in the 1950s-60s and that the this fake "liberty" chaos actor movement by anarchists needs to be destroyed by FBI and ATF bullets if necessary.

@pablogayhart3050 2 года назад

He pretty much tells on himself at 32:11 by saying he doesn't believe in evil. It's that level of naivety and the hubris of post modernism that has gotten us stuck in this satanic self-mutalating sludge.

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

even old guys like to do the cool thing without really thinking it through

@johnfranklin8319 2 года назад

Absolutely agree. 2020 and CVD has shook my faith in the American People right down to its foundations!! The tyranny I witnessed with restrictions and trampling of our constitution rights and to have the American People roll over and take it shocked me. I’ll never look at this country and it’s people the same as long as I live.

@vincesmith2499 6 месяцев назад

How can any libertarian support Trump's position that the president can do whatever he wants and be immune from prosecution even when he"s no longer president?

@gardnmi 2 года назад

He is a great magician. He tricked everyone into thinking he wasn't a raging liberal.

@evanhdez 2 года назад

Lol

@WhopyStompy 2 года назад

Right?!

@JChang0114 2 года назад

That was the skill of his writing team.

@jebediahkerman8245 2 года назад

Some people just love liberty until something scares them.

@noone3939 2 года назад

Lol

@blackonblack...9244 2 года назад

Maybe he should understand that most Libertarianism is meant for less government and more personal responsibility. But that's too much to ask these days.

@WinginWolf 2 года назад

Yeah. Guns for one. Lot of lack of personal responsibility there. We don’t/shouldn’t need laws to have discipline!

@williamkatcher2469 2 года назад

That's exactly what he always thought. But he woke up to the fact that libertarians were for the former and showed none of the latter.

@Gary_oldmans_left_nut 2 года назад

@@williamkatcher2469 based

@ShikiByakko 2 года назад

Indeed, the whole "What do we do about the immunocompromised" part really triggered me a lot, because not only that has existed way before covid and he never seemed to give a fuck before covid, but sadly it is a problem of personal responsibility. You are responsable for your own health. If you are immunocompromised you change your behavior to lower your risk, you don't expect all of society to change their behavior for your sole benefit.

@acex222 2 года назад

@@ShikiByakko If you think he didn't give a fuck before covid you really didn't watch much of his stuff.

@sooofisticated0499 2 года назад

Early in the interview he refers to institutional power as, "the grown ups." The last thing the government has behaved like is the, "grown ups." COVID did a number on the guy. If he trusts institutional power and sees them as parental figures, he was never a libertarian. As an atheist his brush with death probably maddened him slightly, and he refers to covid times (while living in Hollywood, btw) as, "a blur." I have health problems that have threatened my life, I never then lost my ability to think rationally. Another casualty of Hollywood culture.

@sebastiansirvas1530 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika What you are complaining about was caused by a chain of government abuse. "In 1910, the physician oligopoly was started during the Republican administration of William Taft after the American Medical Association lobbied the states to strengthen the regulation of medical licensure and allow their state AMA offices to oversee the closure or merger of nearly half of medical schools and also the reduction of class sizes. The states have been subsidizing the education of the number of doctors recommended by the AMA. In 1925, prescription drug monopolies begun after the federal government led by Republican President Calvin Coolidge started allowing the patenting of drugs. (Drug monopolies have also been promoted by government research and development subsidies targeted to favored pharmaceutical companies.) In 1945, buyer monopolization begun after the McCarran-Ferguson Act led by the Roosevelt Administration exempted the business of medical insurance from most federal regulation, including antitrust laws. (States have also more recently contributed to the monopolization by requiring health care plans to meet standards for coverage.) In 1946, institutional provider monopolization begun after favored hospitals received federal subsidies (matching grants and loans) provided under the Hospital Survey and Construction Act passed during the Truman Administration. (States have also been exempting non-profit hospitals from antitrust laws.) In 1951, employers started to become the dominant third-party insurance buyer during the Truman Administration after the Internal Revenue Service declared group premiums tax-deductible. In 1965, nationalization was started with a government buyer monopoly after the Johnson Administration led passage of Medicare and Medicaid which provided health insurance for the elderly and poor, respectively. In 1972, institutional provider monopolization was strengthened after the Nixon Administration started restricting the supply of hospitals by requiring federal certificate-of-need for the construction of medical facilities. In 1974, buyer monopolization was strengthened during the Nixon Administration after the Employee Retirement Income Security Act exempted employee health benefit plans offered by large employers (e.g., HMOs) from state regulations and lawsuits (e.g., brought by people denied coverage). In 1984, prescription drug monopolies were strengthened during the Reagan Administration after the Drug Price Competition and Patent Term Restoration Act permitted the extension of patents beyond 20 years. (The government has also allowed pharmaceuticals companies to bribe physicians to prescribe more expensive drugs.) In 2003, prescription drug monopolies were strengthened during the Bush Administration after the Medicare Prescription Drug, Improvement, and Modernization Act provided subsidies to the elderly for drugs. In 2014, nationalization will be strengthened after the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act of 2010 (“Obamacare”) provided mandates, subsidies and insurance exchanges, and the expansion of Medicaid."

@chrisdaly9863 2 года назад

And the vegan diet

@sanriosonderweg 2 года назад

Reminds me of the Enron the smartest guys in the room title. He once railed at religion, but he now just believes in a different set of priests. The type that worships appearances, look the part, sound the part, Sorkin's West Wing/NPR credibility voice, but even that is breaking down. He's a magician who can't tell if the most powerful trick is still working.

@Hibernial 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika Trusting big pharma to manage the centralization and planning of medical services reallocated by force through the very bureaucracy you mislabel as a for profit system is the entire problem of going by what's taught by government schools and universities, cemented further by the corporate press. Post lockdown era proves where centralized medical planning leads to, which is a medical caste system based solely around political control. You scapegoat greed onto the voluntary sector, which routinely suffers from the destructive hand of unqualified organizers in the political sector. They care for control far more than profit, and profit is the only means of which practically the nonpolitical person can generate wealth and accrue resources for himself. The rampant destruction of socialized planning is so obvious at this point post 2020 that a person must be a fool to trust blindly in the State. Or some must merely be just disingenuous in their question begging, and would only genuinely wish the destruction of voluntary and peaceful people by vilifying their creating better lives for themselves.

@jthemagicrobot3960 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika health care in the US isn't in a free market it's heavily socialzed and regulated

@brushylake4606 2 года назад

I've listened to and watched Penn for almost 40 years. I've disagreed with him, but he's always made sense. For the first time ever, he is making absolutely no sense.

@delocon 2 года назад

He picked his paycheque over his integrity.

@StrawHat83 2 года назад

I'm not saying I agree with everything Penn said, but I think being anti-mandate and pro-vaccine is an important distinction and makes a lot of sense. Why are people arguing against individuals choosing to be vaccinated?

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

@@StrawHat83 did penn at any point say he was anti-mandate? or did you mean penn is anti-mandate except for covid because everyone should just agree with the mandates anyway? from what i can tell most people are upset about being forced to take an untested emergency use vaccine (that doesnt meet the actual definition of vaccine so they changed its definition) against their will and then entirely unable to hold the creators accountable if something goes wrong. violating every sense of my body my choice, informed consent, and the nuremberg code.

@brushylake4606 2 года назад

@@StrawHat83 I don't know. I don't know anyone who would fit that description. But, that's not what I'm talking about. From what I heard, basically Penn is no longer a libertarian because he doesn't like Trump. I can respect someone who changes their principles because of some specific event. But, Penn's description of his "conversion" basically distills down to "I don't like Trump" and "I'm afraid of Covid". His reasoning, such as it is, is simply nonsensical.

@tubetorpedo 2 года назад

@@brushylake4606 _"But, Penn's description of his "conversion" basically distills down to "I don't like Trump" and "I'm afraid of Covid"_ Penn should have just taken the vaccination Trump has been strong advocate from the start (whole operation warp speed in spring 2020) and thus be safe from Covid.

@seancarristhebest 2 года назад

Damn. Lost alot of respect for Penn. And hes been a major influence on me. Im sure he will never read this, but i wish someone would remind Penn that just because some people use freedom in a way you dont agree with, doesnt mean their freedom should be taken away, or that they are doing it wrong.

@fortusvictus8297 2 года назад

Many wearing a Libertarian name tag are actually just Libertines. It's a real problem in the LP

@Justanotherconsumer 2 года назад

There’s a distinction between being a libertarian and being an anarchist. Maximizing liberty requires constraints on those who would use their liberties to trample on the liberties of others. “If you don’t like the way I drive stay off the sidewalk” is not inherently Libertarian.

@shakya00 2 года назад

@@Justanotherconsumer Yes but the analogy was used by Penn to justify the fact that not wearing a mask was risking people around you and thus - I suppose - : masks should be mandatory. Which is complete BS....

@billmankin6204 2 года назад

It's not about just masks being mandatory. When you drive on a road, you agree to show your competence by having a license, and your responsibility by having a car that is safe for the road and by having insurance or self insuring by a bond. IMO as a long time libertarian, those conditions are not unreasonable, and neither is the requirement you are going to mask up if you are in my face. We CAN have a reasonable argument about under what conditions all of these are necessary.

@fortusvictus8297 2 года назад

@@billmankin6204 Requiring masks to participate in society is legally a restriction on freedom of movement. House arrest technically. And that is not even getting into the logic or science at all, just legally it is depriving you of due process as guaranteed by the Bill of Rights and 14th Amendment. Driving a car is not protected as it is a privilege (under property ownership laws) and not a right.

@RonHelton 2 года назад

One's views on liberty should not change just because one is more cognizant of their impending end. That is what we see here with Penn. He is more concerned about his life than his liberty. Such a shame. Penn was a great mouthpiece for liberty in the past. #RIPLiberty

@williamkatcher2469 2 года назад

He was the mouthpiece of responsible liberty and still is. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should.

@chrimony 2 года назад

@@williamkatcher2469 No, he is in favor of worthless mandates that take away personal responsibility and individual freedom.

@ShikiByakko 2 года назад

Couldn't said it better. If anything, this panic put people to the test. When things get really difficult, it is when people truly show who they are. I saw so many people who claimed to be libertarian going to be pro-lockdowns and pro-mandates so quickly it was hilarious, and also I saw many people who were supposedly leftists who actually were anti-lockdowns and anti-mandates and showed that in the places where it matters the most, they were actually way more libertarian than self claimed libertarians.

@sergiootero5904 2 года назад

Some ppl would rather be safe than free

@foadnwol6684 2 года назад

@@williamkatcher2469 "responsible liberty" is mandating waxxines? Cuz that's what both he and Nick advocate.

@vincesmith2499 6 месяцев назад

Jillette is still a libertarian, in my book. He is a decent person too.

@pctotty 2 года назад

It's mind boggling just how much these guys agree with, that they can list off that Trump did as President and still insist that he was a horrible, because he said mean things.

@pctotty 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika You need to look up the meaning of literally.

@intuneknight9681 2 года назад

This people are fraud, they know the moment they defend Trump they are going after him, suddenly he is not a liberterian anymore lol everyone is scare of government what they did to Trump it was a broad message to everyone look what we can do to the actual president, remember this people are fraud.

@frankiel3767 2 года назад

Just because he did a few good things doesn't mean he was a good president, especially from a libertairan persepective. He kicked off his campaign by announcing his desire to limit immigration by building a wasteful wall and he was popular because he supported economic protectionism, neither is libertarian.

@jjrockjaw 2 года назад

@@frankiel3767 is the wall in question the very one that President Biden is shoring up as we speak?

@frankiel3767 2 года назад

@@jjrockjaw Yes, that one.

@mindyobeeznis 2 года назад

Penn has definitely changed. Hate trump all you like, but that does not justify jumping onto the mask bandwagon.

@worsethanjoerogan8061 2 года назад

I remember Penn railing against allowing the government unchecked power just because you like the current administration. That was under Obama. Seems like he's forgotten his own words

@JChang0114 2 года назад

The fact he never required masks at all his prior events proves he is willing to choose who lives and dies. Granted, less people die from the flu but it's just a matter of degree.

@kristinaolson77 2 года назад

Reason jumped on and the fake vaccine wagon

@AKlover 2 года назад

He probably misses Trump now. Trump was by no means exceptional as President, probably the best since Eisenhower. That said that is an EXCEEDINGLY LOW BAR. The Trump admin was deliberately misguided on A few issues meaning he trusted the wrong people and allowed hiring from the pool of his in-built opposition and crippled by the bureaucracy, the "Asterisk Administration is A deliberately orchestrated disaster.

@JChang0114 2 года назад

@@kristinaolson77 I notice they are not pushing boosters. I had COVID in 1/2021 confirmed by a lab but apparently I am less protected than a vaccine that needs 4 boosters in about two and a half years.

@trey8770 2 года назад

No, he supported Newsom and Biden lol.

@vidyanandbapat8032 2 года назад

Newsom and all other DemonRats are staunch communists. And same is the case with their financiers Michael Bloomberg and George Soros, although they earn all of their money from capitalist institutions such as stock markets. Gun-grabbers like Everytown for gun safety and Moms demand Action are all funded by Bloomberg and Soros despite them earning huge money from capitalist institutions like stock markets. There were no stock markets in erstwhile Soviet Russia when it was communist. Would it have been possible for Bloomberg and Soros to become billionaire at there?

@barfo281 2 года назад

So did Donald Chump.....Donald Chump supported Jimmy Carter, Walter Mondale, Ted Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, Charles Rangel, Nancy Pelosi, Jerry Brown, David Dinkins, Harry Reid, Joe Biden, John Kerry, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Kristen Gillibrand, Anthony Wiener, Gavin Newsom, Kamala Harris, and many more leftists.

@trey8770 2 года назад

@@barfo281 cool I don’t like Trump

@vidyanandbapat8032 2 года назад

@@trey8770 #MeToo

@barfo281 2 года назад

@Joseph There was no booming economy under RINO Trump, RINO Trump escalated Bush and Obama wars, RINO Trump outspent Obama by double in half the time, and did more socialism, more gun control, more debt, bigger deficits, more nanny state policies, etc. than Obama, and he distracted you with his childish twitter crybaby antics. No wonder lifelong NY liberal degenerate democrat conman Trump loves the poorly educated. Look at you.

@farmyardfab 2 года назад

He is exactly the type of libertarian that Hoppe warned us about.

@drowjack 2 года назад

You mean a liberal

@Marshall1914 2 года назад

@HarryPainter 2 года назад

🚁

@farmyardfab 2 года назад

@@HarryPainter a connoisseur of South American culture, I see.

@Marshall1914 2 года назад

🚁 💃☭ 🌊🌊🌊🌊🌊

@TugHillGuy 2 года назад

I'm questioning whether Penn ever was a libertarian. It's easy to have libertarian opinions when things are fine but it requires true convictions to stick to libertarian principles when you're in a difficult nationwide/worldwide phenomenon like a pandemic or have a president who you personally despise.

@giantsr1eva 2 года назад

@George Washburn He was never a true libertarian, he supported Walmart on his Penn and Teller BS show. Walmart is the most anti libertarian store out there. They lobby the government to force their competitors to have higher prices so everyone would shop at Walmart.

@tboyd5150 2 года назад

Good point. When he celebrated Newsome's victory in the recall I knew the old Penn was dead and buried.

@megananderson2618 2 года назад

He even looks like a different person, and not in a good way. 😕

@bdonovable 2 года назад

It's like the left or right people who claim to be free speech advocates until they hear speech they disagree with.

@joelhorton5895 2 года назад

I think he was always a little more of a contrarian and provocateur in the name of comedy and desire for fame

@Graeme_Lastname 2 года назад

Government expertise? It's never happened in my lifetime.

@NathanCline12-21 2 года назад

Or the entire human history

@UmaROMC 2 года назад

You're both wrong. I cannot think of a single organisation, voluntary or itherwise, that is quite so expert at picking the exact wrong things to do fron a rational perspective. So you're wrong in a way that kinda makes you still right 😉

@NathanCline12-21 2 года назад

"Anarchy is no guarantee that some people won't kill,injure, kidnap, defraud, or steal from others. Government is a guarantee that some will. " Gustave de Molinari

@Graeme_Lastname 2 года назад

@@NathanCline12-21 Thank you m8. 😃 👍‍

@McMeatBag 2 года назад

Covid taught us that literally no one in the government is an expert at anything, besides profiting off of their positions.

@kristinaolson77 2 года назад

No policies, just garbage feelings. Losing respect for Penn, and I could care less about Trump.

@Meton2526 2 года назад

You COULD care less, so you do care some for Trump? I'd figure someone would care so little that they could not care less about Trump if they lost respect for Penn over this.

@kristinaolson77 2 года назад

@@Meton2526 His only hatred for Trump is because of his feelings. That's woke BS. Most people in the country especially minorities (which Penn said Trump is a racist) did better under Trump. I'd like to know what policies Penn didn't like. I can't stand Obama, but I liked when he gave all those pardons. I liked that policy. I hated his Healthcare policy. Just want a policy, not feelings.

@Meton2526 2 года назад

@@kristinaolson77 WHOOOOOSH I'm making fun of the fact that you said "I could care less" which is a common mistake of not understanding what "I could NOT care less" means.

@kristinaolson77 2 года назад

@@Meton2526 oooooh. You got me!

@killaken2000 2 года назад

When you become an adult you should have realized "the adults" didn't have everything figured out

@reignman30 2 года назад

Adults are just better at pretending they have everything figured out.

@malachi- 2 года назад

You do know that his daughter decided she was a trans, so then he flipped on everything, right? Now he can't even answer a simple question without an emotional sales pitch, first... if he ever even actually answers the question at all.

@pathacker4963 2 года назад

No didn’t know that.

@tsufordman 2 года назад

Good to know while watching this.

@PurpleHazeVanNederlands 2 года назад

As if true libertarians give a fuck about adults being trans

@Justanotherconsumer 2 года назад

So letting people have control over their own identity is contrary to Libertarian principles? Honestly it sounds like a lot of “libertarians” are just conservatives that don’t want to be called conservatives.

@muskepticsometimes9133 2 года назад

Yup he totally joined trans cult, pretty dad

@jtrocker9976 2 года назад

No. Next question.

@jeffersonianideal 2 года назад

I liked Penn when he was fat and freedom oriented, rather than skinny and scared.

@johnfranklin8319 2 года назад

LMAO….”skinny and scared”….👍

@johnfranklin8319 2 года назад

He’s 67 now, that happens to many people with age, less confidence, doubting yourself because you don’t have the energy and strength you used to, I think he’s pathetic.

@jeffersonianideal 2 года назад

@@johnfranklin8319 Thank you. Old, robust libertarian sell-outs never die, they just get starved of their principles.

@BlastinRope 2 года назад

Atheist meets mortality (gone wrong XXX)

@jeffersonianideal 2 года назад

@@johnfranklin8319 As Dr. Robert Higgs demonstrates in his opus treatise, _Crisis and Leviathan_ , fear is the most powerful human emotion.

@daskalman 2 года назад

Those who'd sacrifice liberty for security deserve neither.

@richctv 2 года назад

"Emotional reaction". He's being honest and frank there. There's no place in entertainment circles unless you embrace the progressive left positions and policies. The emotional reaction being Fear. Fear as a Libertarian he would be labeled Far Right. So he folded like a house of cards on his principles.

@MikeStallings2023 2 года назад

Ah you nailed it. It is hard to make a man disagree with that with which his money depends on. This is so true and I didn't really think about it about it until just now. Of course Gillette is going to become a brain dead liberal otherwise he would be kicked out of the club.

@vladtheimpala5532 2 года назад

It does seem that way. I’m disappointed. I’ve always thought quite highly of him. I frequently disagree with him but I thought he was an honest man. I’m a little disappointed in Nick Gillespie too.

@cfluff6716 2 года назад

@@vladtheimpala5532 Oh Gillespie has been unbearable for a while now

@tallard666 2 года назад

He never "folded". He was delusional and doctrinaire back then too. Most Humanist-adjacent (Humanism the religion) are just as deluded as any other religion. They believe in the Spockish "live long and prosper".

@20mik20 2 года назад

Not mask waering equal to driving drunk? That did not age well. Lol

@temmy9 2 года назад

he's a libertine, not a libertarian. He is defined by his opposition to conservative forms of Christianity

@Nah_Bohdi 2 года назад

Ah, true true, I forgot about all that.

@WillCarter1976 2 года назад

Winner winner chicken dinner! And Nick Gillespie isn't far behind him.

@Aspectt1991 2 года назад

So you cant be a libertarian and not christian?

@spiderqueen601 2 года назад

Since when are libertarians NOT libertines? Christians for small government are conservative Republicans.

@WBKimmons 2 года назад

@@Aspectt1991 what?

@jimthompson5844 2 года назад

When it was his values being shut down he wanted less government when it’s the values he opposed now that the government is pushing his values he has left the movement.

@LikeATreeOnAMountain 2 года назад

"When I am weaker than you, I ask you for freedom because that is according to your principles; when I am stronger than you, I take away your freedom because that is according to my principles. - Harq al-Ada, Children of Dune, misattributed to Louis Veuillot

@justinhart2831 2 года назад

But you would never do that.

@ErdTirdMans 2 года назад

We're all just on sides of a tug-of-rope, pulling the center in our direction. If the center ever moves past your ideal point, you'll "switch sides" too. Right now, the ancaps are my allies. If the day came where we got a classically liberal government and it started veering ancap, I'd be pulling against them

@christiensebastien2442 2 года назад

The dude literally said he'd rather have a socialist completely fuck up than to have a guy like Trump save lives from pulling troops out of a war, provided the guy was thoughtful in his decision to fuck things up. Like what? And of course, Nick just patronized him the whole time, and should've pushed back on that more.

@electrictroy2010 2 года назад

PENN was very disillusioned by Trump because he thought Trump was truly dumb. Penn thought the president should lead by example & wear a mask on tv ,

@dark_mode 2 года назад

Can't blame Penn. He's living the good life shilling for the ruling regime. Cool gig.

@kasimirfreeman 2 года назад

Yes, he's not the one culturally enriched, forced to abandon body autonomy to work, or getting blasted in gun safe zones. He "cares".

@godseed7984 2 года назад

You're not wrong.

@UmaROMC 2 года назад

You can be goddamn sure I'm going to blame him. Just as much as all the people who played ball with commies, nazis, monarchists eyc etc for their own short term narrow gain.

@sanriosonderweg 2 года назад

Would be true if he were young and still building a career, now he bends the knee out of habit, its sad.

@barrydworak 2 года назад

I have self-quarantined three times. Never have gotten a positive COVID test result, but I had some mild symptoms and I work with clients all over the area. I have done everything I could, to avoid putting anyone at risk, at my expense. Do I wear a mask? No, I don't, at least most of the time. Neither empirical studies nor theory, suggest that they are at all effective, with the possible exception of properly worn and frequently disposed-of N95 masks which might have a minimal effect. If I really need to wear a mask, say in a medical office, I wear a rated mask that might possibly be slightly effective. I refuse to wear a costume mask, which includes the surgical masks that they give out -- you breathe right around them, in use. This isn't because I'm a libertarian. It's because I'm skeptical, I do my best to be scientifically informed, and I strive to be authentic. I want freedom for individuals, my values include responsibility, and I also want to see the evidence. That USED to describe Penn.

@fogandwhirlwind 2 года назад

Boom!

@UserNameAnonymous 2 года назад

The effectiveness of surgical masks has been well-documented in peer-reviewed, scientific studies. Surgeons don't wear them for fun.

@barrydworak 2 года назад

@@UserNameAnonymous surgeons don't wear them to prevent the transmission of airborne pathogens.

@UserNameAnonymous 2 года назад

@@barrydworak - Right. They wear them to block microscopic droplets of saliva.

@barrydworak 2 года назад

@@UserNameAnonymous block, not filter. COVID is airborne and spreads from the upper respiratory tract. A properly fitted filter mask like an N95 blocks saliva drops AND filters exhaled air. And to to the best of my knowledge, only this type of mask has been shown to slow the spread of COVID specifically (and then only by about 20% but it's something, anyway).

@mitchrogers544 2 года назад

Penn Jillette is the biggest sell out in libertarianism.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

You might be right about that. He used to be an articulate defender of liberty, actually adding to the philosophy...from that to supporting the worst mass incarcerator in US history, next to Wilson, whose policies set the stage for it...

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@JakeWitmer He was never libertarian, he was contrarian who BELIEVED in science.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@tallard666 I can't really argue against your view, but it's sad and unpleasant. (A hint that you're on the right track, unfortunately...)

@lizard450 2 года назад

No, and he never was

@wade2bosh 2 года назад

yes he was

@vidyanandbapat8032 2 года назад

He was staunch atheist for sure, but a staunch libertarian too? Its difficult to answer in one way or the other.

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@vidyanandbapat8032 He was a superficial vain celebrity seeking atheist who always had blind faith in science. Magicians... sheesh, kiddy food

@qazmko22 2 года назад

I don't get the hate from Libertarians he is currently getting. He has never said government should step in and control people (via. taxes or. regulations) he just takes the "personal responsibility" very seriously. He supports, open borders, free trade, low taxes, small police force, small military, but that means he supports personal responsibility.

@CaedusRising 2 года назад

No. His stance on pronoun nonsense alone disqualifies him

@pmbooks5785 2 года назад

Why, because pronouns are bad?

@tallard666 2 года назад

Exactly. All the Gnu-atheists were fakers and shysters. They had FAITH in "the science" because it made them look good, flattering their ego, no different than Bill Gates narcissism, and going after "gotcha" moments, and low-hanging branches. The Gnu-atheists killed the atheist movement, the same way liberal feminists ruined historical feminism.

@angelozachos8777 2 года назад

@@pmbooks5785 No … pronouns aren’t “bad” … They are superfluous though 🤷‍♂️

@WithstandTheStorm 2 года назад

Answer.....no

@David.Harris 2 года назад

I will save everyone... No. He is not.

@fortusvictus8297 2 года назад

Never was, was always a Libertine. I was told to shut up by another libertarian once many years ago for saying that back when BS was a popular show. Dunno, but to me, he has always been a very obvious libertine.

@anubis1416 2 года назад

Shame, turns out he wants to dictate other peoples lives as much as any one else. Really used to like this guy.

@vincesmith2499 6 месяцев назад

There is no right to infect others. That is not liberty.

@angelozachos8777 Месяц назад

You can’t infect others if you you don’t carry the germ Treating everyone like they are infected with a killer germ for two straight years -when they NEVER has the germ - is the height of lunacy Y’all became fanatical religious zealots

@thomasmacisaac1503 2 года назад

Penn can f*** right off with his drunk driving analogy. In screenwriting, a character's values are illustrated by making difficult decisions under pressure. It's like that in screenwriting because it's like that in life; your character isn't what you _think,_ your character is how you _act,_ and when you act in accordance with your values despite fierce opposition, that's called _integrity._ "Those who lack the courage will always find a philosophy to justify it." -Camus

@medarby3066 2 года назад

I Bet all those pro maskers are anti asking gay people to stop having unprotected sex in massive groups in order to stop the spread of Gaypox.

@RiseToLiberty 2 года назад

Well said.

@tallard666 2 года назад

DD activists are all crazy. Motor vehicles are way more dangerous overall than DD. Anti-DD are pure moral authoritarians.

@JChang0114 2 года назад

If Penn believes in masks why is he not wearing a mask during the interview?

@tom_ad9343 2 года назад

Most/all so called libertarian's masks have come off by now...

@kristinaolson77 2 года назад

Must be on the 6 ft BS bandwagon too

@vidyanandbapat8032 2 года назад

Anyone who supports face Diapers and Vaccines, atleast a mandate for it, cannot be called a libertarian.

@williamkatcher2469 2 года назад

Because it's not 2020 and he is vaccinated.

@JChang0114 2 года назад

@@williamkatcher2469 Vaccinated people can still spread the virus especially if he did not get ALL the multiple boosters. As to it not being 2020, doesn't the flu kill people and won't masks stop it? Now, the flu probably kills less than COVID but it is still risking lives.

@WillCarter1976 2 года назад

Penn jillette has gone from telling jokes, to being the punchline.

@strawbertco 2 года назад

it sucks to think that but yeah

@MC-dn8if 2 года назад

But by embracing the socialist left he gets on TV so has been laughing all the way to the bank. He’s just another sellout.

@LiberatedCastaway1 2 года назад

True sadly.

@WillCarter1976 2 года назад

If the comments section is anything to go by, Nick and Penn are both regretting this episode.

@JoeKnows44 Год назад

Only with the people like you who the majority of us are laughing at.

@ArtofFreeSpeech 2 года назад

Pretty much this entire video made me sad. I used to have such respect for Penn Jillette. As a libertarian atheist myself, he was someone who embodied a lot of my own beliefs, or so I thought. How sad to see him from a libertarian to an authoritarian!?!

@jthemagicrobot3960 2 года назад

Now think how those of who have become ancaps feel

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@jthemagicrobot3960 MIstakenly thinking "ancap" is "ultra-libertarian" or "ultra-moral" is idiotic and delusional, in the extreme. Literally the only thing conferred on someone who is "ancap" is "an inability to implement their stated philosophy." The fact that I'm wrong in the case that AGI institutes ancapism only underscores the fact that humans won't buy into ancapism on their own. As such, it's encouraging motion away from the one philosophy that might save humanity, as a whole.

@DVHeld 2 года назад

Not exactly an authoritarian. More like braindead.

@snex000 2 года назад

@@JakeWitmer Nice rant but ancaps are simply libertarians who take the principles seriously.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@snex000 You are incorrect. "Anarchists" are edge-lords who don't care to implement their principles at the human level. Indeed, by pretending to take principles seriously, they show that they take them less seriously, since they then become non-implementable. "Anarchists" are the easiest people for Bill Redpath (almost certainly the LP's IC "intelligence community" saboteur) to manipulate into neutralizing themselves. (If you know anything about how the IC neutralized AIM, you have a blueprint for how they've neutralized the USA Libertarian Party.) "If your philosophy is good and true, then you owe it to your philosophy to learn how to win." -Morton Blackwell Spooner (not an anarchist, BTW) realized that rhetoric that couldn't be implemented was useless. Thoreau (also not an anarchist) realized the same. The prior is why both people translated their ideas into ideas that were strengthened by juries and the common law, and why both men organized juries to oppose unjust laws. (Which was, by the way, perfectly compatible with the evolved British common law. ...The evolved British common law, BTW, that every single "anarchist" wants upheld when they enter a corrupted court of today.) Ah well, who am I kidding. Impotent edge-lords don't listen. ...And half of them are feds trying to derail any serious movement, and/or entrap gullible idiots. There's no strategic endgame for "anarchism." This is why feds encourage it so much. ...Sadly, the government schools have accomplished their mission...very few people know jack shit about their rights under the common law, nor how it's supposed to work.

@shad2529 2 года назад

Short answer: no Long answer: he never was

@bennyhannah6562 2 года назад

Tell me more

@electrictroy2010 2 года назад

Libertarian =/= anarchist. Even Thomas Jefferson said “No man has a right to harm another” and government should restrain that man from doing harm .

@sheldoniusRex 2 года назад

I don't actually care anymore. He lost me forever the nanosecond he endorsed that vile woman for President of our once great Republic.

@holidaytrout5174 2 года назад

I'm a libertarian and I was pro mask and vaccine, but against a vaccine mandate. I think its fine for businesses to mandate it for entry. I don't really like Trump either. I don't feel like this makes me less libertarian.

@usffan5775 2 года назад

I guess we can ignore how government coerced these companies to do their bidding, so Libertarians like you can talk about how it's all voluntary

@holidaytrout5174 2 года назад

@@usffan5775 i don't think the government should mandate companies to do it

@usffan5775 2 года назад

@@holidaytrout5174 I don't mind a business doing what they want either. 100%. But when I recognize the strong arm pressure that government put on a majority of business to comply with covid madness, I start to side with Republicans like DeSantis who fought against mandates. This way, at least individuals can choose. It's not a perfect solution, but it's the only option we had

@tallard666 2 года назад

There's no distinction. Governments offloading authoritarianism onto businesses so as to remove pressure on themselves is plain dishonest. #BanAllMandates

@angelozachos8777 2 года назад

@@holidaytrout5174 So you think it’s fine for businesses , aka NON STATE ACTORS , to enforce vaccine compliance ? So you are comfortable with someone who is NOT law enforcement , nonetheless requesting our papers and private medical records ? Here in the West, we’ve worked very hard to have confidentiality enshrined in the law ( ie Patient and Doctor or Client and Lawyer privilege ) and have put a lot of effort into safeguarding access to medical records by those not authorized or entitled. This changes now because of a short-lived bad respiratory illness ? 🤷‍♂️ Wow 😯!

@Eagles2777 2 года назад

Being pro-vax but anti-mandate is perfectly consistent with libertarianism. I do wonder why he uses the one group that asked him to speak at a rally as a proxy for all libertarians. He has no way of knowing how representative that group was/is.

@Hibernial 2 года назад

That the corporate press and its sympathizers present a strictly pro or anti view on vaccinations is propaganda through lying by omission. That is not how normal people think nor view things in life across the board. Every opportunity of choice that presents itself to an individual at any given moment is a tradeoff. The fact that record inflation and mandatory lockdowns occurred where at the same time the subsidized manufacturing of State funded vaccines also occurred was deliberate coercion with a first event giving credence to the second. Without the first event there is no scenario where the second follows, and coercion would not be viewed as preferable because it could have no reason to be presented in such a way. That overarching narrative and bending towards it should answer in effect as to how, rather than why, he uses one group as proxy. It's framing, not inquiring.

@weshamner694 2 года назад

It does seem to have become a very vocal group claiming the title of libertarian.

@BryanChandlerStL 2 года назад

Penn is so in love with The Science (tm) that he can't recognize Institutional Capture when it's right in front of his face.

@tubetorpedo 2 года назад

It's better to love scientific method.

@mathman43 2 года назад

@@tubetorpedo Yes and like Richard Feynman said, "the only thing we can say about this theory is that it hasn't been proved wrong yet."

@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад

@@mathman43 except when it comes to the CDC's theories they have ALL been PROVEN WRONG.

@AnonYmous-jf8jj 2 года назад

@@mugsofmirth8101 Those aren't theories. Look up the scientific definition of theory.

@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад

@@AnonYmous-jf8jj I did and your CDC theory is DEBUNKED.

@kendallmay7977 2 года назад

I will save y’all some time. It’s a two hour softball interview where a group of guys who, lean more towards Democrats than anarchists, take turns kneeling and eating the bs that each other defecates.

@foadnwol6684 2 года назад

excellent!

@reignman30 2 года назад

NGL, I knew how it was going to go and decided to read the comments section instead. And I have not been disappointed xD.

@mikenagy938 2 года назад

As soon as he starts talking about how wonderful wearing a mask is I know he has lost any ability to reason. The virus is 17 times smaller than the weave of a mask and how many times were we told they don't work? Yet he carries on with the line. No respect.

@tubetorpedo 2 года назад

You should just wear few more mask on top of each other. That'll help for sure. Let's call them _booster masks._

@dejectedfrogcat2840 2 года назад

I'm against mask mandate. But you really got how these masks work wrong. Imagine you're a bird trying to fly through a dense forest as fast as you could. The gap between the trees are several times bigger than you are. But if you just fly straight through, you're most definitely going to hit a tree and not make it out of the other side. That's basically how a PROPERLY FITTED mask works (anything else are just costume pieces). And depend on the type, the mask could also be statically charged and actively attracts particles as air moves through.

@aleclievens8769 2 года назад

It's spread through water droplets that get caught on the mask

@bradhartliep879 2 года назад

Stop #Lying to the People and Try talking to a REAL DOCTOR - Masks have been PROVEN to work if you wear them properly .. You don't understand the SCIENCE of WHY they work ..

@joecoolioness6399 2 года назад

You are aware that you have mucus and saliva and that is what you expel when you breath, cough, or sneeze. The virus is contained in those droplets which is what the mask is capturing. I shake my head when people like you spout this complete lack of understanding. Masks, when properly used, prevent the spread of disease. I am against the mandates just to be clear, this should be left up to the individual to choose. But at the same time, business owners should have the choice to not let you in their store if you are not wearing one. At 7-Eleven it says "no shirt, no shoes, no service". Does that mean 7-Eleven is forcing you to wear a shirt? No. It just means if you choose not to wear one they will not serve you.

@bui77 2 года назад

I'm sorry Nick but you're losing me on this you don't have to lie about him the guy was an ass but don't lie about him

@ruskininja6168 2 года назад

Nick's line about him not liking Trump because of his rhetoric against Mexicans infuriated me. The only way to make that argument is to cut a single excerpt out of context. If you look at Hispanic polling (and anecdotal conversations), Mexican-Americans have only grown and to continue to grow in their approval of him. Nick is a picturesque example of the "caring white liberal" that Thomas Sewell and Malcolm X warned about; being angry on behalf of those poor, stupid minorities. To quote a previous Reason skit... "please quit making me defend Trump." Push against what he actually screwed up instead of attacking the strawman. There is plenty of good criticism to make, but he decided to poison the well with that fallacious opening critique.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@ruskininja6168 It's perfectly reasonable "being angry on behalf of those poor, stupid minorities." ...The smallest minority is one. ...And...look around you...you can't argue that Americans of any political minority aren't "poor and stupid." Whether "unwittingly self-destructive" because of bad schooling or natural lack of processing power, the outcome is the same.

@cucubanana4226 2 года назад

Noooo ! For those who pay attention, pretty much from when he had the health scare, and became a vegan, he changed. And went to the left more and more.

@noblephoenix6151 2 года назад

Maybe all the soy got to him.....

@chadpyle 2 года назад

Undiagnosed brain damage, maybe

@jt5747 2 года назад

Sounds like a scared old man. He's trying to assuage those feelings by trying to control others. If he can just do that, he can feel safe. Typical, and sad.

@spiderqueen601 2 года назад

I’m shocked by how much these dudes believe media spin rather than the words out of Trump’s mouth. These guys should know how misquotes and edits work.

@routinelyrandom9409 2 года назад

When Trump went on national television and advocated for red flag laws and bigger stimulus checks the media wouldn't even bring it up - they just kept talking about Russia

@paulgeorge315 2 года назад

They honestly believe that Trump called all Mexicans "rapists". The difference between "they're" and "their" completely changes the meaning.

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

@@paulgeorge315 i dont watch the reasontv guy a lot, but was shocked when he implied trump said all mexican immigrants were grapists. thought he would have a more reasonable take on that like... possibly going back to the direct quote instead of media shaded quotes

@badmofaux 2 года назад

I’ll hold Gillette to the higher standard here, given that he at one point at least positioned himself as some form of skeptic. (Whereas Gillespie is merely the self-described libertarian). In either case though they really oughta know better than to indulge their biases so plainly. They go with the interpretation which suits their argument and don’t think twice about it.

@lancegrandis6230 2 года назад

@@paulgeorge315 no the instance everyone clings to claiming Trump called them rapists being false is not due to possessive pronouns but rather it is the subject - he clearly was talking about ms-13, not Mexicans. Also, and how these guys never even seem to be aware of this which blows my mind, is how do they think Trump has brought so many Hispanics over to his side, to unprecedented levels which is nearing 50%?

@nate7jedi 2 года назад

Ironically my wife was watching an old episode of a show he showed up on yesterday and I told her, "yeah, kind of sucks that he's no longer a libertarian anymore." Watching the episode with Doc Dixon outfoxing both Penn & Teller, and Doc using a libertarian joke that went right over Penns head....

@barrydworak 2 года назад

I guess he was always just one bad cold away from collectivist authoritarianism.

@darwinkilledgod 2 года назад

You have a clip of that?

@nate7jedi 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0l8fWBQopNI.html

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

Link? I've seen similar but this sounds worth watching...

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@barrydworak He always was! His shtick about being a contrarian was ALWAYS superficial and as an atheist libertarian activist he was never profound, always going after low hanging fruit. As a lifelong atheist I always disliked him.

@555Trout 2 года назад

Who cares? Oh Reason, how you have fallen.

@parker5287 2 года назад

Completely missing the point that most people made, which was that you should have the independent right to choose what to put in your body, not that nobody should ever get it the vaccine. Completely different views.

@annekeckler8479 2 года назад

To be fair, I saw a lot of libertarians throwing insults at anyone who got a Covid vaccine.

@parker5287 2 года назад

@@annekeckler8479 only the ones that made it a big deal.

@reignman30 2 года назад

My body my choice, until it's not my body xD.

@ShinAkuma204 2 года назад

This is an amazing interview for all the wrong reasons. We have a group of people who seemingly think they got it together, repeating objectively verifiable lies. (Trump/Mexicans) Penn has been an icon of reason and scrutiny for decades, yet is incapable of pursuing actual truth. This is not a defense of Trump, he has many flaws, but there is an antireality that "intellectuals" believe in that is shocking. Even Penn's views on libertarianism is kinda wack. This is wild and completely reveals that these (Penn was a hero of mine) people are not nearly as intelligent, or has it together, as we have been led to believe. I will give them credit for recognizing that Trump was less of a warmonger than previous admins. Has it always been this way and we just never noticed? Think about how Penn ends this off - He would rather have a "sane" person making bad policy decisions, for example killing innocent people in the middle east, than a "lunatic" making good policy decision, not killing people innocent people in the middle east. There is never been a more antilogic position than that. The voice of reason is now mute.

@rosselliot8971 2 года назад

" He would rather have a "sane" person making bad policy decisions, for example killing innocent people in the middle east, than a "lunatic" making good policy decision" That's actually the definition of Trump Derangement Syndrome. In 2020 many knew Biden was a disaster in the making but openly said they'd rather have him than Trump regardless of the policies each advocated. It's also called cultural suicide.

@MikeStallings2023 2 года назад

That's what I'm saying. All they had to do was watch the full unedited videos for themselves. If they are that lazy then they deserve to be stupid. It is scary isn't it. Because we also were once stupid, apparently. I'm starting to believe that it has always been this way. Trump's true legacy was teaching us that news, and even most history, is all fake. I now have to reevaluate everything I ever believed since I thought as was an intellectual college student, many years ago.

@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад

Penn was only touted as a "voice of reason" by his atheist/leftist comrades for obvious reasons.

@wesjones6370 2 года назад

George Orwell once said "There are some ideas so stupid only intellectuals believe them." The concept of bad decisions coming from echo chambers is very understood in psychology today. It can lead a room full of intelligent men to all agree that launching the bay of pigs attack was a good idea, even though virtually every one of them realized how profoundly foolish and stupid it was years later. A lot of people in show business are detached from reality, and have lost all sense of life for people as a result. It leads to much of what we see. The voice of reason is mute indeed...because we elevate the views of these people so disconnected from reality.

@tallard666 2 года назад

Penn wasn't an icon of science. He BELIEVED in the science, he's a trickster, which makes him no different than any other person of faith.

@johnfranklin8319 2 года назад

I can’t get over how they are ranting on about Trump so much, at a time of the current Wreck that in the White House now.

@shanek6582 2 года назад

His example of the guy running through town shooting people, the answer actually was more freedom, freedom for everyone he’s shooting at to be allowed to carry and shoot back.

@chadpyle 2 года назад

It was that moment I realized he actually thinks like a liberal

@reignman30 2 года назад

Yeah there's nobody running through town shooting people if the other people armed. I mean even though everyone hates cops, you never see a mass shooting at a police station xD.

@robertcaccavalla6469 2 года назад

Jillett never has demonstrated an academic argument. Just his opinion or interpretation.

@darthsmolin 2 года назад

Would you call him an academic? He literally graduated from Clown College. XD

@robertcaccavalla6469 2 года назад

@@darthsmolin ah yes haaa. True 👍. I forgot about that 😅

@lucristianx Год назад

Vaccinated 5x and I lean libertarian. You never had the right to infect.

@DogeMcLovin 2 года назад

Is ReasonTV still libertarian?

@barfo281 2 года назад

Nope.

@SniperDizzyJohny 2 года назад

Is ReasonTV Not RetardTV

@NeonAnimeDreams 2 года назад

Not really, more like liberal with slight libertarian leanings.

@ModeratelyAmused 2 года назад

When the pandemic was in full swing before the vaccine roll out, I was happy to wear a mask when indoors visiting my local grocery store or shopping for other necessities. While I was doing that, what I saw were people wearing loose fitted cloth masks. People letting the mask droop below their nose. Touching their masks constantly. Lowering their mask to be heard clearly and putting it back up. Touching their masks constantly to adjust them. Hugging each other with masks on. Masks could have been a tiny bit effective when done properly. Proper fit, proper type, proper usage but MOST importantly, with social distancing when indoors. You had reporters being caught putting on the mask when they were about to go live. You had activist groups out in mass and being told by the news "it's OK to not wear a mask if you are protesting." WTF? So 6 months into the pandemic, people were seeing the same thing and realizing these masks were about control than about saving lives. You have teachers in states that still require masks for children, taking group pictures where only the children have masks on. Hearing the excuse that "if you are vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask." No talks about how temporary the immunity lasts. Literally becoming a pandemic of the vaccinated. Penn Gillette is a star-bellied sneech.

@kevin735 2 года назад

Even the best-worn cloth mask will do nothing to stop an airborne virus. Neither will a correctly worn surgical mask. You need OSHA rated gear for any hope of slowing down airborne illnesses. It's simple science.

@blackonblack...9244 2 года назад

It was all a sham, if you ask me. They were lockdowns. Even though when I got the rona, I didn't feel like it was the end of the world. In fact, I just tried to treat the symptoms at the very least. It really weird me out that people are worried about others getting under the weather when the best think we should try to do is just get better. What's gotten me is that when I look for jobs they are still asking about my fauci ouchi status when I don't even live near them and it's for a 100% remote IT position.

@CharlesLumia 2 года назад

Well said buddy.

@lwgalletta 2 года назад

“You suck like a leech You want everyone to act like you Kiss ass while you bitch So you can get rich” -Jello Biafra

@SniperDizzyJohny 2 года назад

"Blm protests are not spreading covid" Never forget that. NEVER

@anteeko 2 года назад

The point of comparing "not wearing a mask" and driving drunk... I don't know, some countries had zero mask mandate and actually dealt with the pandemic very well (Sweden) IMO the pandemic has been made worst by liberty-restriction law and actions.

@JChang0114 2 года назад

Driving drunk requires the person to be at or over a BAC in their blood. The mask mandate doesn't even require a person to have COVID to be required to wear a mask. One could make an argument for wearing a mask for a COVID positive case but Penn wants everyone that visits a place where alcohol is sold to be banned from driving.

@anteeko 2 года назад

@@JChang0114 interesting take, thks

@Justanotherconsumer 2 года назад

Sweden’s success was definitely mixed. Honestly they approached it more as “we’re going to trust people to follow the evidence and do the right thing.” The problem in the US is that defying the mandates became a form of virtue signaling where to fit in to the community you had to comply with the community’s demand to not wear a mask. It ceased to be about whether masks worked and became entirely about what “team” people were on.

@sebastianjovancic9814 2 года назад

Even though we never had a mask mandate in Sweden, it was highly encouraged and expected, institutionally and socially, and most people (in Stockholm at least) wore masks during the peaks.

@barrydworak 2 года назад

@@Justanotherconsumer That happened everywhere except in the real world. At no time, in Idaho at that, did I ever feel the slightest bit of social pressure not to wear a mask, even from people who are adamantly opposed to being made to wear them.

@GatoradeAppreciator 2 года назад

I've never heard someone say absolutely nothing so articulately.

@JoeKnows44 Год назад

I'm sure you have and just don't remember.

@NigelNquande Год назад

Other than yourself, no doubt ...

@Elonbust 2 года назад

This is a guy who can see the bottom of the hill comming fast and is willing to sacrifice your liberties for his longevity.

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

and i think thats fine for him honestly, just hopefully people see it for what it is and people have the balls to call out this boomer and every other boomer continuing to screw over everyone else. unfortunately, he has the helping hand of mainstream media and establishment politicians

@tallard666 2 года назад

100% An atheist who fears death is always a dishonest atheist, and he was always like that. He gives credence to the old saying : "No atheist in a foxhole" A true atheist doesn"t believe in souls, and death should not induce fear unless he fears hell...

@tupacalypse88 2 года назад

@@tallard666 well that's not true at all always been an atheist also 12 years clean I've had multiple o.d. it was scary as hell thinking I'm dieing.

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@tupacalypse88 cuz you kept your religious values/fears, which is what Gnu-atheist converts tend to do. I was raised faith-free, so I never even went to such a brain space.

@0eyesopen065 2 года назад

well said... and he'll get neither

@ItzBreeschanel 2 года назад

Had to stop listening to this. Both are full of crap.

@watchdealer11 2 года назад

Why do we never hear from Teller? 😂

@karozans 2 года назад

Probably doesn't have much to say.

@victorfox9623 2 года назад

Teller is smart enough to keep his mouth shut and take the money.

@lsh3rd 2 года назад

He should do a podcast... 45 minutes of silence.

@barryfortier6377 2 года назад

He played the father of Amy on the big bang theory, several episodes, a handful of lines. Also showed up (and spoke several lines) in one of the atlas shrugged series of episodic movies.

@MusicGunn 2 года назад

I became a Libertarian around 2012 after leaving the Republican party. In part due to Penn being a Libertarian, I decided to look into Libertarianism. While I appreciate many aspects of Libertarianism, I do not like some of the associations with people that I find to be dangerous. I'm not talking about official party associations, but the embracement of Libertarianism by fringe groups. I don't see myself ever going back to being a Republican, or be a Democrat, but I am really more independent now. I'm sorry but Libertarians have no chance in national politics, which is a fault of the 2 party system. Therefore, until this wave of absolute nuttery of the GOP these days is defeated, I will have to vote Democrat to try to do my part in defeating this wave of stupidity. EVERYONE should be united in defeating this shit.

@ArtofFreeSpeech 2 года назад

There's a difference between a libertarian and a Libertarian. The latter refers to people in the Libertarian party (which, FWIW, has changed since the Mises caucus, for the better IMO). The former refers only to people with the philosophy. There's a big difference. You didn't say otherwise or anything, but I wanted to point out your misuse of the capital L Libertarian. As far as fringe groups adopting libertarianism, well, it is the ultimate celebration of individual liberties and minorities (and as Ayn Rand so astutely put it, the individual is the smallest minority), and fringe groups are small minorities. One can support the right for people to believe as they please and not support what they believe at the same time.

@MusicGunn 2 года назад

@@ArtofFreeSpeech Without the clear and constant condemnation of these groups by the Libertarian party and the libertarians in it, I can't sign on to any part of it. I can't stop them from thinking their bullshit, but I can insist on societal isolationism.

@ArtofFreeSpeech 2 года назад

@@MusicGunn You can condemn the groups, but still not condemn their right to free speech. They're not the same thing, which is what I was saying. For instance, I abhor both the KKK AND Antifa equally, but I would support both of their rights to free speech. The people in the Mises caucus HAVE condemned hate groups on both sides, and they STILL support the rights of these groups to free speech. Just which group, specifically, have you found saying they're capital L libertarians?

@MusicGunn 2 года назад

@@ArtofFreeSpeech It isn't just one group, but take White Christian Nationalism. Also, this isn't about free speech. No one can take that away from them, with some limits. What you may not understand is that every right has limits. Free speech has its limits too. Example: You can yell fire in a crowded theater and if no one gets hurt in the panic that follows, you will most likely not face charges, if someone dies, you could and should face charges. Speech that endangers others lives, is not and should not be protected by the 1st Amendment. White Christian Nationalism and their agenda of hate is a threat to society, if you do not see that then I suggest you open your eyes.

@ArtofFreeSpeech 2 года назад

@@MusicGunn I can't find anything linking WCN and the Libertarian party. I also don't believe White Nationalism is any kind of major threat to the U.S., but by that I mean I don't believe the tiny fringe groups like the KKK are serious threats. This leads me to ask, however, when you say White Nationalist, are you referring to KKK like groups? Or are you referring to Western Culture in general? That is, are you one of those who claims we live in white supremacist patriarchal capitalist society and that Western society is a problem and inherently racist, etc...? Or are you referring to the tiny fringe hate groups?

@RickDeckard2 2 года назад

His mask argument is kinda funny, one time I saw his show in Vegas and he did this whole thing on the TSA. Couldn’t you use all the safety arguments for mask for the TSA?

@NeonAnimeDreams 2 года назад

Yea he contradicts him self alot, definitely not a consistent libertarian

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

also, we are aware the common surgical masks and cloth are not really that effective for covid, right? and frequent touching of mask and face to adjust the mask is bad. n95 masks are great sure, but we dont have n95 mask mandates and probably dont even have the supply of them if we wanted to. and even if we could force 24/7 safe and effective n95 mask wearing its fine for people that want to do that, but there are many tradeoffs including social development of our most important demographic (children), use of unspoken language and microexpressions on the face, as well as the fact that masks were outlawed for good reason because it makes it harder to identify the person, as well as improper handling of masks, as well as the waste of masks which are made out of a plastic fabric, and using the mask as a visual cue to "othering" people there are so many negatives that are not even considered, let alone the conflict with mandates and actual libertarianism

@NeonAnimeDreams 2 года назад

@@chrisjohnson-tn3gl all good points, which just goes to show you liberals are not that smart and they don't look into things.

@ErdTirdMans 2 года назад

Well, no. The TSA doesn't even reach the 12-20% effectiveness that masks had for the early COVID variants. If your argument is that something needs to be 100% effective to be justified, then you're the one who's kinda funny

@NeonAnimeDreams 2 года назад

@@ErdTirdMans 12 to 20%? Are you joking? Show the actual factual evidence of this or get out here with that non sense, covid is a tiny virus, doesn't matter the variant, they're all small, they can EASLY slip through the fabric of masks, masks are 99.5% infective. These types of masks are to prevent airborne bacterial, fungal and allergens such as pollen from entering your lungs, not viruses!

@voluntaryjerry9835 2 года назад

@edwinj5205 2 года назад

I wonder how much would be different if Trump had given him the win on the apprentice.

@invisibleazn9330 2 года назад

So trump asked Jillette to support him. Penn said he couldn't. Then Trump didn't pick him to win. These 2 grown men (trump and jillette) are acting like children in my view.

@lsh3rd 2 года назад

@@invisibleazn9330 How is Jillette not supporting Trump "acting like children"?

@invisibleazn9330 2 года назад

@@lsh3rd Supporting Hillary Clinton to me is acting like a child, maybe worse. She is someone he'd never have backed in the past. But because he got so emotional (like a child) about trump, that drove him to vote for the wicked witch. Voting for trump in 2016 sure I can see why people would think that insane. However voting for Killery is beyond insane. I don't know why he couldnt just support the libertarian candidate.

@barrydworak 2 года назад

@@lsh3rd Not failing to support Trump, necessarily, but actively supporting his demonstrably criminal opponent in the election. A libertarian atheist, like me, would be expected to abstain, anyway. But supporting Hillary Clinton? That's different.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@invisibleazn9330 ...with millions of innocent lives in the balance, unfortunately

@Eversca 2 года назад

All of the big atheists I grew up listening to, and who I thought looked at things objectively and rationally, all ended up basically going insane. None of these people exist in reality any more since trump happened. I guess they didn't worship God, but they certainly had a lot of faith in whatever comfortable collective mirage ended in 2016. I guess we all worship something, whether we choose to see it or not.

@BlastinRope 2 года назад

Atheists are intellectual light weights to begin with

@mugsofmirth8101 2 года назад

Makes sense since atheism is a fundamental component of all communist dictatorships

@tallard666 2 года назад

I wished we discussed this more. There are two types of atheists: people who never had faith, raised faith-free (very few of us) and people who rebelled against their religious parents (who still have religious values to a great extent, like on morality, but reject god and some conservative religious views). Socially, there have been two generations of atheist activism: early activism which was secularist (separation of church and state, legal battles against religion in schools, on money, in business), à la Madelyn Murray O'Hare, and Gnu-atheism, the showy celebrity naval-gazing atheists who made up the "four horsemen of atheism" crowd, who rarely did the legal battles, they were more interested in low-hanging branches and lazy "gotcha" moments, as the early content creators they were, repping for their income and followers. Chris Hitchens was the last worthy atheist activist As for the magician crowd, they are tricksters, never understood why anyone adulates them.

@gabrielleangelica1977 9 дней назад

Everyone believes in God. They just call Him by a different name, Science, Love, Hashem, Money etc.

@alexbeltran9525 2 года назад

After listening to this I think Penn is like the smartest guy who still fully believes what is said on establishment media. { New York Times; CNN; MSNBC }

@chrisjohnson-tn3gl 2 года назад

i dont really know anything about this boomer other than he did like magic tricks with that other guy, is he actually really smart? and if he still believes everything the establishment media is telling him after all the lies have been uncovered and incestuous relationship between media and politicians, was he ever?

@pathacker4963 2 года назад

Isn’t that an oxymoron?

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@pathacker4963 bigtime

@reignman30 2 года назад

I don't know why, but that reminds of the line from Dr. Manhattan, "The world's smartest man poses no more threat to me than does its smartest termite." The smartest guy who still watches CNN isn't much smarter than the smartest termite who still watches CNN lol.

@ScienceSleuths89 2 года назад

the short answer is no. the long answer is no he is not.

@jwtlucky 2 года назад

When given the option between Larry Elder and Gavin Newsom, he got on stage and campaigned with Gavin. I had the misfortune of living under the rule of that piece of trash from 2019 until a month ago. I don’t need to bother listening to any defense of Penn, his actions spoke louder.

@tommyanomaly6193 2 года назад

Libertarians shouldn't be voting for either one

@jwtlucky 2 года назад

@@tommyanomaly6193 shocking…. the no real libertarian argument. Yeah I’ll take the man who talks about Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams being his biggest influence over any of the 20 something other people that put their names on the ballot, especially considering that Elder was the only one with the name recognition to actually to have a chance at winning.

@Hibernial 2 года назад

@@tommyanomaly6193 Libertarians should be taking after the ideas of Hoppe, where gaining political traction at the local level and then privatizing services that way where a political approach is opted for by liberty-minded people and communities. It's merely binary thinking to only view the act of voting as how its is promoted and packaged to be within a strict system.

@frankiel3767 2 года назад

@Manish Mims And it isn't Elder either.

@drdeesnutts48 2 года назад

@@frankiel3767 How so?

@TheTicktockman321 2 года назад

Aren't these guys in their 60's? How can you be a grown man and still believe so much of the BS that they are just tossing out there as facts? It is disappointing. I can see the 20-somethings being this lazy but at some point you need to evolve. These guys shouldn't be insulting anyone else's intelligence.

@DanHowardMtl 2 года назад

Worst cases of TDS I've heard in a long time. Seek help!

@MS-ig7ku Год назад

It is so pathetic.

@fretpound 2 года назад

I’d love for Penn to sit down and have a conversation with Bret Weinstein.

@tallard666 2 года назад

Two germophobes commiserating about "good" authoritarianism!

@ThieleMobile 2 года назад

One cannot be butt buddies with Gavin Newsom and be a libertarian

@malachi- 2 года назад

Same as Howard Stern, they get so rich and successful that they want to be accepted by that crowd, so they happily submit.

@drdeesnutts48 2 года назад

There's a saying that you become conservative about things you become more attached to. It would seem he's now more attached to his wealth and celebrity than he is to the freedom of his youth.

@danielhopkins296 2 года назад

None of them appear to claim they are libertarian but they spend a lot of time talk about libertarian: strange

@miguelacevedo4691 2 года назад

Man, Ben Affleck really gain weight!

@kenhiett5266 2 года назад

Penn is no longer the capable critical thinker he used to be. Like Chomsky, age has not been kind the parts of his mind that do logic and reason independently. Following those mistakenly held in esteem is what's left for both of them. Oh well, c'est la vie.

@robfromvan 2 года назад

Ken Hiett, you should forget about Noam Chomsky, he never was reasonable. He’s an apologist for Pol Pot. Look up Thomas Sowell.

@JDG-hq8gy 2 года назад

@@robfromvan How’s he a Pot apologist?

@kenhiett5266 2 года назад

@@robfromvan As a conservative minded Libertarian, I don't agree with Chomsky or Penn politically. I mentioned Chomsky specifically because he wrote Manufacturing Consent, which is an excellent representation of the propagandistic U.S. media, regardless of his political ideologies. He of all people should know better, but he was still captured by the media lies regarding Covid.

@flinch622 2 года назад

Here's the tell: "I get scared". Fear is the realm of the statists and control freaks: its what they sell, knowing you [if buying in] will give them more power to "make it stop" - a moment that is almost never produced. Anyway, he'll make up his own mind as always. If I could point one thing out it is that fear and faith cannot occupy the same space at the same time. As we all get older, that sometimes helps sort out a few things.

@robfromvan 2 года назад

@@kenhiett5266 not to mention that the entire news media is on the side of the political left so they always spin it from that side; I know he did that documentary but it’s hard to take it seriously when he appears to just spout propaganda himself. He’s an apologist for Pol Pot after all, and other leftists who killed a lot of people, just because they “meant well.”

@Nah_Bohdi 2 года назад

Jesus...his political lens is that of a teenager, reminds me of my late teens.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

there's an awesome Nolan chart meme that shows a yammerhead kid saying "I used to be a libertarian, then I became a post-modernist neo-marxist furry, then I became a republican, then I joined the SDS and became a social Democrat..." He's asked how old he is, and he says "14" ...and when you realize that many human brains are just plain idiotic and self-contradictory in exactly that way, a lot of the picture comes into focus

@tallard666 2 года назад

He's always been that way. I was quite involved in the atheist community in the 70s, 80s, 90s, 00s, and quit the atheist community because of the dominance of his kind of superficial "gotcha" atheism which was not improvement of society related, but self-aggrandising. A magician is always just a trickster.

@edmckay8001 2 года назад

How did your teens die?

@electrictroy2010 2 года назад

Libertarian =/= anarchist. Even Thomas Jefferson said “No man has a right to harm another” and government should restrain that man from doing harm .

@NeonAnimeDreams Год назад

@electrictroy2010 Jefferson was a proto libertarian anarchist in the making for sure, if only more presidents had been like him....

@grahamsmith5396 Год назад

Penn Jillete supported Biden in the 2020 election, and said he didn't care about taxes or bad regulations as long as Biden loves the Trump voters. And Reason magazine says Jillete is still an libertarian. Geez ,good thing I don't waste my time on voting anymore for anyone, it's just virtue signaling.

@mikhaelis 2 года назад

Penn has never been a libertarian. He has always been a progressive atheist and tells anyone who will listen the same.

@drdeesnutts48 2 года назад

He's very much in the same line of libertarian as Gary Johnson basically a progressive by any other name.

@mikhaelis 2 года назад

@@michaelashby9654 there used to be before libertarians becams a 3 ring circus and were taken over by commies.

@badmofaux 2 года назад

@@michaelashby9654 The foundation would be to maximize freedom and minimize government intrusion. Pretty simple really. That being said there’s plenty of room left for a more right or left leaning worldview at the level of the individual, provided that everyone agrees to adhere to the aforementioned as much as possible. Progressives on the other hand believe in stuff like centralized authority and the perfectibility of human nature through various forms of coercion. So do conservatives for that matter, but nobody’s gonna call Gillette a conservative.

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@michaelashby9654 The trouble is libertarianism has come to be associated with Conservatism, which makes no bloody sense, since conservatism is historically the playground of authoritarian religious morality. The only "libertarian" aspect of conservatives is their general adulation of "free markets", further demonstrating their blindness to reality, because there's nothing "free market" about the capitalism we see in the Western World this century. Our "capitalism" is ENTIRELY planned by billionaire commettees who price fix, supply fix, and they often spend more on marketing than product and research because they know that even demand is flexible, because human minds are highly groomable. What the documentary Century Of Self to understand how feeble the human mind is in most people. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DnPmg0R1M04.html

@Nothingtoya 2 года назад

This is hard to watch. He's an old man with insane thoughts. What use to be, is no more.

@HVACSoldier 2 года назад

Trump is the most libertarian President, but being 10% libertarian, when the previous Presidents are 9% libertarian isn’t saying much. Trump won because Hillary was the Democratic nominee. Trump might win the Republican nomination, but I don’t think he’ll win the election.

@gmmakesmehurl 2 года назад

Weve had 0% Libertarian presidents. Trump was a zero.

@HVACSoldier 2 года назад

@@gmmakesmehurl I wouldn’t say any of them were “zero,” but none of them did much to move government away from power. Any time a politician (or a Washington bureaucrat) gives up power, someone gets upset.

@barfo281 2 года назад

@Dave Davis - Trump is to the left of Obama and he governed to the left of Obama.

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@barfo281 wow comment ;)

@nicedream92 2 года назад

Penn Jillette did a good job of calling out the "libertarians" who think private business owners shouldn't be able to enforce masks on their property if they want to.

@josephmoore5949 2 года назад

Yes, but he also was in favor of government mandating it. That was not very libertarian of him.

@tallard666 2 года назад

Governments fearful of losing votes transfer their anti-science woke performance to the private sector. It's dirty and post-modernist BS no matter if it's government of corporate. Same bs.

@nicedream92 2 года назад

@@tallard666 yes, but at the end of the day -- from a property rights perspective -- the private business should call the shots

@tallard666 2 года назад

@@nicedream92 as a libertarian, authoritarianism doesn't care if it's government or private, it's nasty and anti-libertarian. This is where libertarians have gone wrong. There's no difference between government property and other properties. It's just a thing, no matter who owns it.

@nicedream92 2 года назад

@@tallard666 agree to disagree

@TomkatCEO 2 года назад

Lost ALL respect for Penn. Preaching about how opposed to the anti-science movement he is, yet was completely unaware of any of the science you mentioned. And what was with his weird puppet master sitting on the couch next to you? On a side note, I was incredibly impressed with your performance, Nick.

@elc7795 2 года назад

To Penn, Did Trump ever restrict your Constitutional protected right or violate the limitations on the government set through the Constitution? With COVID, would you suggest the Constitution be suspended?

@barrydworak 2 года назад

Is TDS ever rational? Can anyone infected with it, explain their reasoning? I haven't seen it. If he KNOWS Trump well, can he not actually explain where he's coming from? He has an emotional reaction to Trump, and that's fine. But emotions aren't arguments. One needs to be able to explain WHY he feels something, if he hopes to persuade someone who doesn't have strong emotions about Trump, either way, and never did. Like you @ELC I look at Trump and his presidency with an empirical lens, and whatever my feelings, I can say that we were far better off with Trump than either his predecessor or his successor. And yes, this is part of empiricism: comparing Trump with a Platonic ideal President, as opposed to a real one -- any real one.

@barfo281 2 года назад

@ELC - RINO Trump threatened states if they did not impose lockdowns. Even Trump-worshiping Newsmax reported on it. RINO Trump did more socialism, more gun control, more debt, bigger deficits, more nanny state policies, more growth of government, than Obama....and you cheered.

@glenlewis3831 2 года назад

It doesn't matter who the president is. The system was designed to protect itself, so one man cannot change it.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

One man could...but not with a servile gov-schooled population...so...maybe you're right depending on your meaning...

@DM-mb3uz 2 года назад

Canpaigns for Gavin Newsom: “I’m still a libertarian!” Yeah. Ok…

@matthewschwartz6607 Год назад

Newsom is highly respected . What is wrong with that?

@gnomatic Год назад

Makes more sense than libertarians for Trump. California does have legal weed, abortion rights, and supports freedom of movement compared to Republican states. If he was pro gun, I would suck that man's penis.

@_notofthisearth 2 года назад

You die a hero, or live long enough to become a villain.

@LazyPirate8 Год назад

Penn always was a villain

@Ghost-fe1vp 2 года назад

His argument that a guy with a gun not being allowed to kill people is reduction in freedom is wrong, its an increase in freedom taking him out because others would be free by taking him out. I wish he was caught up on that terrible argument.

@Ghost-fe1vp 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika They take freedom from people not give it.

@tallard666 2 года назад

@Down with Corporate Amerika Guaranteed access to the Medical Industrial Complex increases the number of days worked by workers and profits corporations.

@JosephGamacheKD0AHS 2 года назад

On masks, it's not a matter of 'I shouldn't be forced to wear one to protect others,' it's a matter of 'no one should be forced to wear one to protect me, and as a natural result that extends to me as well.' I choose to wear a mask around those who ask me to, because I respect them. I chose to wear masks with pithy slogans when I was compelled to wear them, because the words on the mask were a protest of the mask mandates.

@tallard666 2 года назад

It's ridiculous to perform something that is meaningless and counter to evidence.

@JakeWitmer 2 года назад

@@tallard666 Yes. No compromise. Peterson is shaping up to be a good celebritarian...but they will always let us down...

@matt291 Год назад

I can't listen to his cope anymore. It makes me sad to see how far he will twist his ideals to justify his hatred of one man.

@pdd60absorbed12 2 года назад

Penn and company are "emotional" wrecks, having abandoned reason.

@kenhiett5266 2 года назад

After watching more of this interview, now I'm wondering if Penn was always a dummy. Anyone who even scratched the surface of virology and epidemiology or bothered to read an occasional study, knew our health establishment was being controlled by pharma. He still doesn't know...lol. Penn's persona of being a thoughtful person was all b.s., wasn't it. How funny.

@sanriosonderweg 2 года назад

Much skeptic/atheism of that era was simply anti christian leftism. They've become very quiet about evolution now that the regime requires lysenkoist faith in equality. It was all pretext, and what he backs is so fragile that it suppresses what can be even mentioned in this comment section without triggering the algorithm.

@drdeesnutts48 2 года назад

He's a standard Koch style corpo "libertarian" basically Reason in a nutshell. I hope the Mises caucaus completely outs all these types from the movement like MAGA is attempting with the GOP's Neocons. I'm not even a libertarian but this corpo shit needs to end.

@posterlion 2 года назад

I don't hate Trump, although he was a little embarrassing at times, no biggie. Trump is pure awesomeness to have gotten anything done at all. Imagine being President and blockaded on all sides. That was his Presidency and he still kicked some ass.