Penn & Teller: Fool Us - Siegfried Tieber 

Siegfried, you’re awesome.

Siegfried, you look remarkably like a very good friend of mine, so I'm inclined to like you immediately, but the fact that you are a very talented performer, and have a very good stage presence, even in your non-native tongue, makes you a joy to watch.

man Penn was right you used the middle 2 cards 8and8 for a point where to stop and give them the cards peace of cake the thing is they should get the award back for you lying to them about their suggestion with the waterfall

Was this intimate knowledge of a fresh deck coupled with gaze from Penn after allowing them to study that half deck?

Alison I'm still on you, right?

I'll take it! My goal is to become that uncle!

@@SiegfriedTieber Hell no! I would rather get a proper clown.

I have a South American uncle? SWEET!

@@davidking1426 Whats wrong with you

@@davidking1426 thats a bit much. Clowns were made to make people laugh and entertain. It may be what this guy does but if youd prefer a clown than a person who is genuinely funny and skilled then i have to ask what is wrong with you.

2 tips. No shuffling at start and 2:08. :P they been fooled like kids. For cheapest trick. I noticed while watching first time.

@@japonieczpolski2903 what exactly did he do at 2:08? 🤔

He looked at next card after 2 cards they took. Deck was prepared and memorised before trick. Thats why he raising hand.

@@japonieczpolski2903 it was that simple? fck me 😑

@@japonieczpolski2903 he was looking at Alison the whole time

That's what I thought. Based on his other performance, that could definitely be the method. Which makes it even more impressive because to memorise a sequence of 52 and then be able to know at what point of the deck you stop, that's insane.

Axel Lessio agree. Probably the are in a easy order like all the same numbers together (both were 8) but even like that requires practice and talent to know the exact card you’re just stoping the fall in any specific place. It’s very impressive. Tricks like this that are talent and practice sometimes are better than sneaky tricks

Axel Lessio makes me remember Kostya Kimlat’s trick (who actually didn’t fool them) when he’s capable of take the card from a fall knowing where the card is. Without any sneaky. Just practice and like Penn said “he’s just that good” and that’s more impressive than other effects you can create with misdirection or sneaky moves and stuff that maybe looks better but isn’t that hard like this kind of things

I know right! I am so surprised Teller didn't know about this effect! And I LOVED the improvement to the trick that allows him to show the deck face up too! Great stuff

Be careful and not sure if we're allowed to say man anymore. I think they just changed the law to sentient being🍍🕴🤷🤷

@@unbroken1010 Are you okay? Or is your acid trip going south?

Shhhh!

No way. He's not even tiny. Just kinda small.

@@eschelar he's not tiny man Frodo in disguise 🤷

Hey man! THANKS for your kind comment, I appreciate it.

@@SiegfriedTieber One of the best trick conducted by one of the best contestant that have ever been on Penn and Teller show! Thank you :D

Lol it sounds like hans landa

@@aliffothmanmuhammadasri-9035 Don't forget the creme 😉

Yeah he is a giga chad for that

I was pleasantly surprised by that because the ending wasnt spoiled

Way to spoil it chief.

Yes! Deep respect.

So many of these uploads have incredibly cringy titles and this one was completely professional, loved it.

The trick is easier. 2:08 While staring at Alison, he showed the deck's top half bottom card to the camera, looking at it on the screen he mentioned when asking Pen & Teller not to show it to, behind Alison.

Nah you're wrong. I actually tried this trick like 4 years ago. At first I tried laying out a pattern in excel then I realized something. Right now gonna be honest i am still trying to rememeber how i did it. But as I remember there is no memorization involve just a pattern

Very simple you can do this trick so many ways nomanica,force ,key card even a crimp it does not matter how he did it because thay all will look the same

it was a mnemonic order 4c, 2h, 7d, 3c, 4h, 6d, As, ... and unnecessary. 8 of Diamonds is after 3 H and before 5c, 8 of Hearts is after Qc and before 6s Excellent presentation, but a very easy trick to figure out.

How does any of this explain the cuts? Using a pattern with cuts introduces a chance that the trick goes wrong

I think it worked so well because of the waterfall force. That was the most obvious force of all time. It just isn't what he did.

@@kunruh651 what?

@@austinlogan4247 Penn & Teller are assuming that the trick is based on a force - this is when the choice of the card appears random but it was actually influenced by the performer. For instance, when you say "stop" he actually stops on the card he wants you to choose but does it so quickly that it appears to be the card you said stop at. He could do this during the "waterfall" of the cards when Penn says Stop, ensuring that Penn took a specific card he knew would be taken. The "force" was a red herring here as Penn truly does have free choice of the card. However, the deck is memorized by the performer and once he knows which card Penn's was next to he then knows Penn's card (and therefore, Teller's card since it was right next to Penn's). It's actually really smart that he takes a peek while Penn and Teller are choosing their cards, using Allison's eye contact as a fake proof that he can't see their card - he doesn't need to see their card he just needs to see where in the deck they chose from! If Penn & Teller had asked if he could do the trick again except this time have them shuffle instead of cut the deck, or ask him to do the trick with a deck that they shuffled beforehand it would be a 100% fool me. Instead, I believe he just has excellent memorization skills and great stage presence.

@@TexasEx7 I thought I invented this trick. There is no force at all, obviously. Him needing to watch the cards says it all.

@Jason Fry You know 90% of it, but there's that sliver 10% that actually did fool you. I will just say that you (as many of us in the first 20 times) fell for one of the "false clues" he smartly implement in the routine.

Haha, he used Alternative Energy just so he can use the words 'Waterfall' and 'Force'. Waterfall refers to the Waterfall Flourish that he did. Where he drops cards from one half of the pile into another, like a waterfall. And Force is... Well, that's a term used in Magic Tricks lol.

@@Cakemagic1 I thought ‘force’ might have meant something about *how* he was doing the waterfall. Like maybe he squeezed the cards more towards where he wanted Penn to say stop. Just a layperson guess at the lingo. I also thought Penn was going to suggest that Siegfried’s stage energy could solve the global energy crisis.

@@GQSmoos In magic "force" is where you are making it seem like your audience participant is freely choosing something but in reality you've made sure that they are picking what you want them to.

@@GQSmoos Force means "forcing" a card on the spectator. In this case Penn implied no matter where he said stop, Tieber would have "forced" the red 8s on Penn and Teller.

"fuck you got me or haha nope" I'm dead

I also got it because forces are the most important part of tricks so I memorized them.

@@DaihatsuCharade1993 I’m proud of you bud

well saying waterfallFORCE isnt really that much of a code is it xD Edit: to be fair tho, when watching fool us for like the first few episodes you wouldnt get it most likely

What does it mean?

@@tendopain2291 to be most fair pen tried to describe it differently but it didn't work so he went for a pretty direct way :o

I appreciate that. Thanks for watching and for your kind comment!

And isn't a cynical, racist interpretation coming from an arsehole.

@@tzuyd Thats kinda the point. (That’s what satire and stereotypes are for. For comedy) But thats just my opinion and I respect yours.

I swear to god i was about to write the exact same comment so glad im not alone

@@imarknutt5638 Siegfried gets the point. Apparently you don't.

@@tzuyd Chill dude that’s why comedy is subjective. Like I said it was my opinion. Didn’t mean it personally.

Ha, I hear you. Thanks for noticing!

Underrated comment

this comment implied the ending so yeah you kinda spoiled it bro 😔

I mean, c'mon man, don't check out the comment section if you don't want to get spoiled on any video ahah

@@bastienlaloe3125 on mobile a comment always shows up and its my bad luck that its this one lol, anyways i was still entertained by the video so siegfried wins

And I love you ✌🏼❤️

@@SiegfriedTieber i got it

Ahaha I agree!! 😂😂😂

Hands down, I usually don't like the "over the top" acting stuff like he does, widening his eyes and stuff. Somehow he still kept me interested. Such an upbeat guy, indeed fun to watch and listen to

Thanks so much! Yes indeed, my take on "Neither Blind nor Stupid" by Señor Tamariz.

🖒🙂👍

@@SiegfriedTieber And us noobs can perform the waterfall one ! Thank you :)

It blows my mind you dared to show them the 4 of clubs at the beginning, bold move

I was unfamiliar with that trick name, but that method is what I would have guessed before the waterfall force. I was unsure of the stack, but figured it had to be (particularly by choosing 2 cards together). It was very well done, and very entertaining. 😎

That makes me immensely happy. Thank you for mentioning it!

Translator note : cojones means balls All according to kekakku

Exactly.. I dont understand why couldnt they figure it out..

Wow, yeah.

He doesn't peek at the card, the trick is performed by Juan Tamariz and doesn't involve peeking at all.

@@serenalaurence1492 how is it done

@@neeko2198 The trick that Juan Tamariz performs is called 'Neither Blind Nor Stupid', and the variation Seigfried uses utilises another advanced method developed by Juan Tamariz and Aronson. Time for some googling :)

I think you are correct. He did not shuffle before hand.

So how come they had diamond and heart? It wasn't shuffled was it?

@@theepicmemes9891 They were shuffled, but then he memorized the pattern, and then did not shuffle after that.

@@theepicmemes9891 he said diamond after picking the first card, and with that information he new the next card was heart.

do penn and teller get a single guess? Maybe the winning strategy would be making a trick that seemed to be done in an obvious way but that was actualy done in another, slightly less obvious way haha

Me too. Which made me so completely and utterly unimpressed. It's a force. They can do whatever they want with the decks because he looks through them and picks the cards. .... but it wasn't a force..... so now I'm impressed.

I don't think it was a force, but rather some oil added to the water

@@goffe2282 Ah now I understand what waterfall force means. It's like when Penn forces a three of clubs by letting the audience say stop is it. I see

@@v4eCTR oil and water could have something to do with it, but the main move that gives him the knowledge he needs is something totally different and before he would be able to use oil and water

The trick is too easy if it were force. So it's good it isn't.

That’s insane. I’d have trouble remembering the order of 5-10 cards. 52? And then the 2 new decks? Crazy

Nice! Thats it!

Someone played slaps lol

Got a peak at the card above the two when they were reinserted. Waved the card at an angle when he was talking to allison. Another thought also could have flashed the card to someone in the audience who would signal to him the card.

@@pahjammer9173 that's exactly how I think it was done (after rewatching several times). Awesome performance!

I think you mean Penn's face?

Or he just had someone in the crowd and when they both select the cards he shows the card on top of pen and tellers cards to the crowd. the guy just tells him. i think his hair is hidding an ear radio.

@@kraljerik Audience plants are not allowed in tricks. Before the show tricks are explained to a 3rd party magician who judges if Penn and Teller got it correct.

I was thinking of the CHSD deck but obviously you dont take that on for Fool Us but I'm sure it is a variation with different numbers / suit order, resembles a CHSD based trick but still very impressive

I think you forgot that he never looked at half the cards after splitting them up. The method you described could do a different, possibly related trick, but not this one. Also, it's extremely impolite to reveal secrets to the general public.

@@jamessarrett4169 Well if it is a set order, then he only needs to know one card since Teller's card would be the next one in the order. Had he found Teller's card in the first set, he'd have to go one back to get Penn's

The deck could be marked with tiny numbers to represent an order.

He folded the card when penn returned the card to deck. It is visible when teller puts card on top. Once he knows penn's card, its easy to know tellers card. since he remembers the order. He never shuffled before penn picked the card. Thats why he had to look at penn's card and not teller's card

Uh because penn chose stop n teller had to take the one below it...n at the end he says he can do it anywhere in the deck

It wasn’t forced.

He knows what the card is before hand. There’s a reason he does the waterfall instead of pick a card any card

@@bradc7056 That's literally what he said it wasn't when Penn guessed.

Looks like he peaks the bottom card in his left hand when talking to Allison, hope it's not the case though

he didn’t look at tellers deck tho so your answer doesn’t solve that one, does it

@@billsalcido7878 prearranged deck. . . Once he knows Penns card he knows the next one that was under it. The order of the two cards was switched when they replaced the cards. Cutting the cards does not alter the deck cycle. After he had divided the deck, he knew that the card that didn’t belong in each stack were the chosen cards. Against knowing penns card knows tellers card. But there were not any peeks required. He really didn’t know what the card was until he looked through the deck split and pulled out the one that didn’t belong in there that was penns chosen card.

I kind of see the resemblance, but i forgot i have no eyes.

yohohohohooooo

By the way, the poofy hair is fantastic

I learned a trick like that a long time ago and while it's also my best guess, I have to wonder if that's really what he did. Either way, his presentation was great and really sold the trick.

I think that was the worst map of Europe I ever saw

Oh man I didn’t even go back and watch and I know what you are talking about

That's a lovely thing to hear. THANKS, I appreciate it immensely!

@@SiegfriedTieber Hope you are doing well man It was soooo coool

@@SiegfriedTieber You should do it once again

I appreciate that immensely! Good luck and lots of fun in your journey.

One of the greatest books ever written

Very nice 👍

Did he ever do an initial shuffle? If he didn't then they would have been in sequential order and teller would have had either the 7 or 9 of diamonds. If he did know the order of the cards on the the first shuffle by practicing perfect shuffles of fresh cards he could remember the possible out comes then work it from there. But the amount of cuts he did, while letting Penn and teller also cut would be near impossible to remember the order of the cards. Oh well, it was a cool trick.

@@dbongoloid9541 there was no shuffle and cutting the deck however many times always preserves the order of the cards.

@@JManu3 OK, but then how did he know which cards were theirs?

@@dbongoloid9541 I'd bet if you memorize the order of your cards and see one was placed in at the wrong position it gives you the indicator. Even random cuts the cards stay in sequences and one should stick out. Very clever trick!

I dont think deck was stacked because theres a moment you can catch what he is doing. Its waaay more simple than this explanation and its brilliant. He didnt need stacked deck at all.

2:08. So funny they didnt noticed. I was sure they know.

You are missing on crucial moment , one very simple moment that's the most important part of the trick. If you rewatch it again and kist pay attention to his eyes you will figure it out

I guess Teller would be his Perry the Platypus...

Yes! Exactly what I thought! That's a bingo!

But it's more subtle than that. I believe it is critical that there are 2 cards.

@@medleyshift1325 Sometimes the best tricks are the easiest tricks. There is a reason he hasn't shuffled the cards or you would get them to shuffle the cards to prove the order is random. The fact he could have picked a card from anywhere is clear evidence that the deck had to be stacked.

Probably not. My guess is that he has memorized the order of the deck. When penn and teller took their cards they switched them around and when he split the deck into two it was easy to see which card was out of place.

@@otsokivivuori7726 here was shuffling. No chance. He checked next card for sure.

@@japonieczpolski2903 He never did shuffle them. In the beginning he did the waterfall which doesnt change the order, and after P&T chose their cards he only did cuts which don't really change the order, it just swithces which one starts the deck.

@@otsokivivuori7726 i rewatched. They putted away card in that same order they took. I was watching hand. He do not switched order. (Edit) Oh sh*t, true, switched. So i just found second way he could do that, or u found. xD

Every little action these magicians do is rehearsed again and again and again. He exposed that card and shook it on purpose - definitely the method he used

or a marked deck

Yeah you're right, how Penn couldn't think that option, i really surprised because he always has doubts about decks order

I thought at first, you might be right. But this doesn't explain how he knew what Teller's card was before he even looked at the second half of the deck.

The cards were not shuffled before the waterfall at all and when he spreads them out on the table you can clearly see the two red 8s next to each other roughly in the middle of the deck before the waterfall. Only thing I can think of is he knew the entire order and, if you look at the cards laid out at 1:16 there are a lot of patterns to the pairings of cards next to each other. It would not matter where it was stopped if he knew the entire pattern and was able to identify exactly where the stop was. I do not think it mattered where the stop was, he knew the card order and knew what 2 cards were picked no matter where the stop was and had some way of identifying the exact stop point. The trick was in being able to identify the stop point and knowing the order of the cards. No card force needed. The entire performance was spot on and the presentation was great.

@@Terpe75 It's a lot easier actually. When he spreads out half of the pack to ask whose card is in that half, you can see than Penn's card is above the 6 of spades. When Penn and Teller were choosing their cards, that was the card at the bottom of the pack he had in his hand. He caught a glimpse of it. The rest of the trick is simple.

You might solve it on yr own nonetheless we still love his.

Yeah, come on, Penn! It was a free selection indeed :)

@@SiegfriedTieber I agree. I know how the trick was done and it's not a force. Simple but also a fooler :D Congrats!

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sxP-tu10ulM.html&ab_channel=ChrisRamsay Think again.

Not only Penn, Teller too!

Mathematics 👍

@@oddreviews7645 Of course. Many of us can do this trick with the same procedure without preparing the cards before the performance ... but it is interesting that Penn chose a diagnosis that is completely outside the scope of this trick, and it visibly amused the magician himself. This opens up more questions ...

Siegfried is a great performer and I guess P&T just wanted him in their show, so they went for the easiest possible method first.

Very clever mental misdirection the way he gets you thinking about the positions of the cards in the deck, nevermind that he refuses to shuffle at any point ;) and generally very well done! I wonder if P&T more didn't know how to suggest change of order without ruining the trick for the audience as well? "When I do magic I like to know that everything is right where I expect it to be. If I look and something is out of place, I know it must have been moved by someone else." maybe with some fluff?? Or maybe the closeup stage presence genuinely distracted them and they thought something about the waterfall would be more important..

1:16 Doesn't seem like an order to me, but could have been that he remembered a totally random pile of cards in order to perform that trick without any order.

@@JB_46 Hi JB, I was not suggesting that his deck was in any ‘numerical’ type order (as per my simple illustration). There are quite a few standard ways of memorising a deck order, such that, when spread out, they do appear very random. However, I doubt if he used one of the standard ones, because P&T would almost instantly have recognised it when he spread the cards. If you are new to memorising a deck quite easily, then try searching online, or in RU-vid, for one of the easiest which begins “Eight Kings threatened to save .......”. Hope that helps. Ken.

​@@jkm1479 Thanks you very interesting!

This was one of the first tricks I learned from a book. Very simplistic trick with a grand payoff, you are clean the entire time, no funky movements, nothing to perfect but your mind and your mouth. His presentation was immaculate, too. I strive to be this charismatic.