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Pentacon Six TL - they're everywhere, but are they any good?? 

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First things first - I will be giving this camera away to one lucky viewer! Find out how you can win this in the next video that I upload!
Ok, down to business. Pentacon Six TL... I see the everywhere, they're pretty popular and they're pretty easy to find, but does that mean that they're good? Or just common?
Well... I don't want to spoil the surprise finding that I discovered. But it turns out... now wait for it... it turns out that if you use a good lens, you get decent pictures. And if you use a crap lens, you don't.
Don't all come rushing to me at once now, I know this is a remarkable revelation.
Seriously though, Carl Zeiss Biometar 80mm f2.8 - good lens. Carl Zeiss Flektogon 50mm f4 - good lens. Carl Zeiss Sonnar 180mm f2.8 - good lens.
Meyer-Optik 400mm f5.5 - not good lens. Or at least not the version I was using. Nothing I did with that lens made the images any better. But there we are, you can't win them all.
But this does bring me on to an important point, and that is that a camera 'review' if you want to call it that, is on'y partly about the camera, and a lot about the lens.
The good news here is that the Pentacon Six is a competent camera, that's for sure. Some issues here and there, but for the most part, it's a good camera.
And its greatest strength is the lenses that are available for it. That's not to say that they are the best lenses in the whole world, just that there are a LOT of them! So there is loads to choose from.
Aaaaanyway, what do you think of the Pentacon Six? Have you tried one? Drop me a comment below and give me your thoughts!
Useful link to Trevor's amazing website: www.pentaconsix.com

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@galganphoto
@galganphoto 8 дней назад
I have 2 pieces of this camera and I love them . I upgraded them with new split focusing screens. They are plastic but seem to be brighter than original ground glass. Both were repaired by local camera repair specialist. One of them had problem with overlapping frames so i got it modified, the film advance lever only crank the shutter but i advance the film manually from the bottom (red glass window on the back of the camera has been added so i can see the numbers on the film backing paper). I actually love this modification, I can easily make double exposures etc..
@yuliyapanchenko
@yuliyapanchenko 5 месяцев назад
You are getting me addicted to this channel 😍 Learning so much!
@tedphillips2951
@tedphillips2951 5 месяцев назад
Another good video. I had a Pentacon Six & I really prefer the Kiev 60. The Carl Zeiss lenses for this mount, as you mentioned, are really very good. When it comes to bring home the bacon I prefer the Pentax 645n
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Totally agree with you there, given the choice I would probably pick the Kiev over the Pentacon. But for reliability neither of them are going touch your Pentax. Nice camera that!
@SteyrM1912
@SteyrM1912 5 месяцев назад
The Mir-38B 65mm wide angle from the Kiev system seems excellent, as well as the Carl Zeiss Jena 50mm Flektogon. There is a tension spring on the feed side of the camera that seems to need adjustment to help keep frame spacing proper midway through the roll, if the spring is out of adjustment it stops putting pressure on the feed roll and you seem to get some frame spacing inconsistency. Noticed on a second body I picked up that some rolls have frame overlap and it seems to be related, this spring can be adjusted by just pulling gently on the end until it takes a new set. My first Pentacon Six body never had frame spacing issues, provided I load it with proper tension initially, the only difference between both seems to be that spring. Fantastic camera. It'll do 27 or possibly even 28 shots on a roll of 220 as well.
@TrailchaserSD
@TrailchaserSD 5 месяцев назад
A lens worth mentioning is the Arsat Zodiak 8, a 30 mm / 3.5 fisheye. Huge, bulky, heavy, but excellent image qualtity!
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
I've seen one in action before, they really are wonderful lenses, and give you some crazy images. I've never owned one though!
@maf421
@maf421 5 месяцев назад
Crazy great lens at 1/10 or 1/20 the price of the Hasselblad Zeiss equivalent!
@danienelphoto
@danienelphoto 5 месяцев назад
Oooohhhh, I wish I can win your little give away. You can then deliver in person in South Africa and I can buy you a beer! I really like the camera. It reminds me of the Pentax 67 in terms of ergonomics, except that it is a top view. Some lovely shots.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
I'd be all over that! You may have to spot me the air fare though........ definitely looks like a Pentax 67, doesn't feel the same though. If you were blindfold and shot both cameras, you wouldn't have any doubt about which one was the premium camera and which was the budget friendly one!
@danienelphoto
@danienelphoto 5 месяцев назад
@@the120ist I can well believe that the Pentax would feel superior. On the air fare - let me see what I can do about the exchange rate between the Pound Sterling and the SA Rand to quadruple the value of the Rand. I will just need to make a few calls and manipulate an election in April. But sure, shortly after.
5 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review. I have 2 of these and a kiev66 which uses the same mount. I like the P6 for its size and good affordable lenses. There are issues with film spacing and stuck apperture blades. But otherwise a really good system.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Yep, I've had a P6 where the spacing was a little off sometimes, and my other 180mm f2.8 is stuck open at 2.8, blades won't move. It's sitting here waiting on me repairing it! But for the money, the system overall is great value, if you can avoid the problems!
5 месяцев назад
The thing is that because of the low price, I am not afraid to take these lenses apart. I have fixed a flektagon 50, a biometar 120 and a sonar 180mm. They are also big and easy to work on.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
@ true! Did you take a 180mm sonnar apart? I went in to try to fix the stuck aperture blades, but couldn't seem to figure out how to access the blades. I got to a certain point, and the blades and mechanism are housed inside a sort of metal cylinder under the lens housing, and I couldn't find any way to access it! Not sure if something unscrews, but I wasn't applying enough force... in the end I stopped, because I didn't want to do any damage, and put the lens back together again, and just use it at 2.8!! Any ideas?
@Jennifer_Prentice
@Jennifer_Prentice 5 месяцев назад
Cool.. I currently only have one medium format camera system .. I need to expand :). I love watching your videos and look forward to seeing the fujifilm ..
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Oh goodness..... You need to expand? Dangerous words. I feel that you are standing on the edge of a precipice, and the void is calling you to jump! Do it... do it... buy ALL the cameras!! How will you know which one you like unless you own the ALL??? Enabler? Me?
@Jennifer_Prentice
@Jennifer_Prentice 5 месяцев назад
@@the120ist Haha :) Thanks
@maf421
@maf421 5 месяцев назад
Fomapan 200. An Iron Wall film for an Iron Wall camera. I like my Kiev 60, the Soviet equivalent. I also got a Pentacon in a deal with a CZJ 80, 50 & 180 2.8 - but I haven't tried it out yet. I do know my Pentax 6x7 back in the 80s gave me more problems than my Kiev has.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Wasn't super thrilled with the foma 200... don't use that film much and I got the dreaded "foma spots", although I didn't go into that in the vid. But if you look closely at the negs there are the characteristic tiny purple spots all over them. Annoying. The Pentacon is a good camera, I enjoyed using it, but given the choice I'd probably go for the Kiev.
@maf421
@maf421 5 месяцев назад
@@the120ist yeah. I have a hate-hate relationship with foma films. They're good for test rolls and Holgas,
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
@@maf421ha ha! Hate hate is about right. It's such a shame that they have such QC issues, the films are good, and the price is great. But for what you save it's usually not worth it.
@captainbackflash
@captainbackflash 5 месяцев назад
The Pentacon is a wonderfull camera!
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
I definitely enjoyed using it. And the fact that I have somehow ended up with a boat load of lenses for it, without really trying, says something about the affordability of it all. Amazing.
@studiojege287
@studiojege287 5 месяцев назад
Good review, well done!
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Glad you're enjoying the vids!
@jmcgonnell
@jmcgonnell 5 месяцев назад
really classy looking camera. nice review!
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! Do you like the look? Prefer it to the long-body Hasselblad / Bronica layout??
@jmcgonnell
@jmcgonnell 5 месяцев назад
i got a bronica etrsi back in the summer... i really like the waist level finder experience but there is something about the standard slr type layout that ultimately i think does too much right that when its not there i really notice it.@@the120ist
@JanneRanta
@JanneRanta 5 месяцев назад
I bought one of these. Then it turns out the shop inventory system had an error and they didn't have the camera. Blessing in discuise. Because I then proceeded to buy my bronica system part by part. Took awhile but definately worth it.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Whilst I really liked this Pentacon, I would go for any of the Bronica systems first, personally. Some people really like this upright SLR form, but I totally prefer the Hasselblad / Bronica layout. Personal preference of course.
@ChrisRowe
@ChrisRowe 3 месяца назад
Best lens for it by far is the Schneider-Kreuznach 80mm f2.8 Xenotar MF... if you can find one
@MarcoRoepers
@MarcoRoepers 5 месяцев назад
Wondering if the Reveni Labs remote control will work with the Pentacon or is the camera too tough?
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
It will definitely work. The cable release I was using didn't need any pressure at all really. It's a big chunky camera, but the mechanics are smooth enough.
@SeanMcGown
@SeanMcGown 5 месяцев назад
In your video description, you have a typo: Ok, down to business. Pentacon Six TL... I see the everywhere..."I see THEM everywhere".
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Good spot, thank you! I shalll fix that now.
@bartlevenson7851
@bartlevenson7851 3 месяца назад
Old Ross Yerkes of Los Angeles works on Pentacon, Kowa, Norita.
@chriscard6544
@chriscard6544 5 месяцев назад
fun
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
I enjoyed the camera, for sure! Definitely worth trying, if you haven't already!
@SeanMcGown
@SeanMcGown 5 месяцев назад
I have one of these and am looking for a good repair shop/person. Anybody?
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Whereabouts in the world are you? There are a few places in the UK that will work on them.
@legionchef
@legionchef Месяц назад
PPP repairs is the youngest and most talented repair man I know of in the UK. Send him a message on his website.
@bernardkealey6449
@bernardkealey6449 5 месяцев назад
Nice vid; chonky boi, it’s a pity they didn’t make it a 67… couldn’t the central planning committee have foreseen how much more cool they would have been perceived by weirdo analogue medium format folk 60 years later if they had done that…
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Ha haaa! Such an oversight. Oh to be able to go back to 1968 East Germany and teach them a thing or two....
@bernardkealey6449
@bernardkealey6449 5 месяцев назад
Imagine having half a million Jena Zeiss lenses that with a converter would fit a Pentax 67…
@maf421
@maf421 5 месяцев назад
@@bernardkealey6449 but with the simple adapter, they will fit and focus on a Pentax 645. You just don't have an auto stopdown aperture
@bernardkealey6449
@bernardkealey6449 5 месяцев назад
@@maf421 I get that, but I’m after 67 or larger. If I had the nous myself I’d spend 5 years making a 6x9 SLR 😂
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
@@bernardkealey6449 now that would be enticing! The lenses are more than up to the job. But I suspect that the flange-focal distance of the cameras will be very similar, so no chance to adapt. If only!
@jjalcock
@jjalcock Месяц назад
Everytime you talk to the camera down by the dock it makes my teeth itch you didn't shoot that weirdly symetrical kiosk thing behind you.
@the120ist
@the120ist 20 дней назад
Well damn... I've just gone back to the video to see what you're talking about, and I can confirm that my brain never even registered that. And this is why I am such a terrible landscape photographer. Making my own teeth itch now. Thanks for pointing it out!!!!
@TrailchaserSD
@TrailchaserSD 5 месяцев назад
Yes, DDR stands for Deutsche Demokratische Republik, which translates GDR.
@the120ist
@the120ist 5 месяцев назад
Aaah, I knew it was something like that. Thanks for clarifying!
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