Pentecostals 🤍 white garment churches? | RELATIONSHIP vs RELIGION | Oyedepo SETS AN EXAMPLE 

Trust me also when I say God is doing something in the white-garment churches. Beyond the decay that seems to be obvious on the surface, there are REMNANTS in the white-garment churches.

You said it all wow you are 💯 correct remain blessed.

Truth!

You are right. But why did you left the Celestial Church sir

I would also like to add that your comment confirmed that you need serious deliverance like any other person coming from the background of these 'spiritual houses' called white garment churches as it is clear that you are yet to be totally free. Satan never let any of his captives go totally free. You may even think that you have left all the paraphernalia of satanic and occultic worship like the white garments, candles, incense etc behind and no longer use them but what about everything that has been deposited into you through your bare feet on the floor of the so-called church, the so-called 'holy water, perfumes, incense fumes, etc and your submission to demonic angels etc. This is talking from experience. You will need to look for genuine deliverance ministers that are very effective and may also try to look for some of your ex- 'wo leaders' -that is, those that are now 'GENUINELY born again and talk to them about what they went through in trying to break the hold of satan over their lives after they got born again. Shalom.

Bible said churches should be perfect

My thoughts exactly. 🙌

Makes sense

Corrections please the CAC Christ Apostolic Church ..... Is not and has never been a white garment church....

@daviswilmot3217 I wasn't saying cac was a white garment church, they share similar yoruba background, the use of bells to pray.. also they emerge around the same time similar prayer movements came out in the west

To repent and the light. Jesus's mission is for all to be save; but not all are force to be save

Having nothing to do with the unfruitful work of darkness, but reproving them All.

Olumba Olumba Obu aka Brotherhood of the Cross and Star is an occultic group. For a 'church' that worships its leader as God, anyone with his/her right senses should run away from that place. I tell you, thousands in that demonic place stand the risk of going to hell if they don't find Christ soon enough.

Do you mean deeperlife church. That was true anyway. Oschoffa did. I wonder why he allowed him since he was not born again under his ministry

Don't misinterpret what the Lord Jesus Christ and the Apostle Paul said because they never referred to people who have occultic practices but use the name of Jesus in their worship.

@mushimbwakafuta4083 explain the spokesman for Jesus it is only you who understand The Bible

@@Tv-zeggay Had you read and understood what the Lord Jesus Christ and Apostle Paul you quoted meant by do not stop anyone who is teaching and healing in the name of Jesus you wouldn't be saying this. Let me give you this example, there are native doctors and other people who practice shamanism who use the name of Jesus Christ in their practices, how is that okay because light and darkness do not and can never mix no matter how you feel about it. That's exactly what I meant when I told you not to misinterpret what the Lord Jesus Christ and Apostle Paul meant. If light and darkness do mix then the Lord Jesus Christ Himself would not have said what He said in Matthew 7:21-23. So you are deceiving yourself if you think it's okay to mix voodoo, shamanism etc. and the teachings of Jesus Christ.

@mushimbwakafuta4083 didn't you hear that he said to the workers don't take the good from the bad leave them let them all grow together and even if they are bad ones are you the one to take it out I think now some of you want to do the work of the lord so continue 🤣🤣 even Jesus preaches peace as the man said in his video that's why I commented because always it's only the Christian fighting against themselves 🤣🤣 Jesus said leave them to leave them to leave them let them grow together leave them let them grow together so masa the spokesman of Jesus Christ please leave them to let them grow together 🤣🤣🤣

@@Tv-zeggaySo leaving them to grow together means not saying anything when false doctrines are being preached. I see that's where you have missed it because even in the Bible the Lord Jesus Christ warned the Israelites about the Pharisees and the Apostles warned about false prophets. In the old Testament whenever the Jews turned away from God, He would send the Prophets to warn them to turn away from their sins. It's also very clear that you are good at misinterpreting the scriptures in the Bible because you think God said that the weeds shouldn't be pulled out means that He said nobody should warn anyone about false teachers of the Gospel and their doctrines when that simply means that the weeds shouldn't be pulled out and punished with hell fire because the time for judgement has not yet come when all the wicked will be punished please read Matthew 13:24-30 properly and understand it as it is. There is nowhere were it's written in the Bible that people shouldn't speak out when false doctrines are taught. If it's written like that provide those scriptures and I will gladly read them. Since you are against people being warned about false doctrines then who will warn them because it's not like the Lord Jesus Christ will come back to teach the Gospel because at His second coming He is coming to judge the world. So if you are this offended about what BRG and I am saying then you will be more offended once the two witnesses spoken about in Revelation 11:1-14 come to proclaim God's message, if you will be alive at that time.

Oh!! That’s a backup page actually and I posted there first thinking it’s here 🫡. Either ways I shared … good to see you

You don’t need to correct what is obvious. I don’t need to say what is obvious. That’s why I play the videos 🫡

No reason to say that because it's pure ignorance.

If you look for the bad in any denomination you will find it… it’s a fact. The question is, is any denomination cancelled and who cancelled them? If WGC is cancelled is Oyedepo ignorant? Think

@@BeingRealGeorge I'm not here to defend or support anybody and you should also know I'm Cameroonian and we don't have white garment churches here but my problem is we always turn to use this statement (you will only find a problem if you are looking for one) in our defense forgetting to know that sometimes people always notice wrong when they know right and not because they were looking for an error. Like for example if your Bible knowledge is sound ( discernment ) and you come across error, you will immediately notice it, not because you were looking for it.

@@sabelunivers I said clearly in this video that there is NO PERFECT CHURCH. investigating the statement of Ibiyeomie is intentionally trying to prove his assertions and yes there are videos here and testimonies of former white garment church members saying same… that’s Kumuyi saying he was not born again while in WGC. There is NOTHING to investigate in his claims when he is someone of influence saying that and there is ANOTHER musician of influence with his reservations…. As someone of influence saying your truth , your congregation already has a mindset from you… so if Oyedepo is praying for the growth of the same denomination because of his family ties and associates with them, does the same denomination have good? I am looking at the ACTS OF INFLUENCIAL PEOPLE HERE… I was the one talking would you care of my opinion without facts?

​@@BeingRealGeorgethanks for making this video and exposing the the hypocrisies of thoes Pentecostal churches. White garment churches are bad but they are good enough to produce the fathers of the Pentecostal moments. Papa Oyedepo, Papa Adegboye and Papa Kumuyi all have their personal and ministerial origin from the movement of God through the african white garmet churches. I said they are hypocrites becauses they deny the manifestation of God power that raised them from their early childhood and preserved them until they grew to understand that the white garmet churches were diabolical and not good enough for them to continue. Even though they still interact with the white garmet churches because it is part of their history. Yet they have rules and standards entrenched in the operations of their Pentecostal setup against the white garmet churches and members coming from them ~~~ i am taking from experiences. They will not come out bold and plan against WGC, This is why i call them political and hypocritical Pentecostal fathers. David ibiyome on the other hand is a mediocre Pastor, lack knowledge, wisdom and understsnding on ministerial etiquette. He is not worthy of the platform he is standing and misleading many unguarded members under him. He is just like his brother Paul in Abuja.

David Ibiyeomie, renowned for his gift of teaching the word and also as an astute Sunday School teacher parted ways with the Eternal Sacred Order of the Cherubim and Seraphim in Port Harcourt years ago, over issues bothering on how ordinations were administered at that time without due reference to the track records of the ordained officers . This departure wasn't tied to the church's practices or doctrines per se . In truth, many of today's revered spiritual leaders, often hailed as "God's generals," trace their lineage back to the White Garment Churches, notably the Cherubim and Seraphim Church founded by Moses Orimolade Tunuolase. Membership in these churches opens individuals to profound spiritual experiences. One can enter as a novice with a need (may be healing , or deliverance from demonic oppression for their loved ones and emerge the next day endowed with the power of healing, prophetic vision, divine knowledge, and various manifestations of God's spirit, without direct mentorship from a clergy member, as God resides inherently within the community. However, doctrinally, most white garment churches, such as ESOC&S, prohibit charging money for ministering with these gifts. Consequently, when some sought wealth through their God-given abilities, influenced by doctrines of prosperity and affluence from American church leaders, they found alignment with the Pentecostal movement. This shift was also fueled by a desire for a larger audience comprising members with influence and of high social class, as the majority of the membership at that time were farmers, peasants, and those of the lower class. Truth be told, Christ is also preached in some of these White garment Churches with the main focus being making heaven and less attachment to worldly possession and affluence. Hence, when most former members got exposed to teachings from the Pentecostal pastors, especially as it has to do with 'making it big in life' while still being a Christian it felt like a new gospel. Many then would say 'I have seen the light' when asked why they don't attend church anymore. While it's also worth noting that a lot of Yoruba traditional worship practices found their way into some of these churches as well as the use of extra-biblical books, it's essential to clarify that these practices are not upheld by the doctrines and liturgy of some of these churches. Rather, some dubious individuals parading themselves as prophets secretly practice these things that the Bible outrightly condemns. Speaking from the perspective of the Eternal Sacred Order of C&S of which I was a member of for more than 20years , I am sorry I can't comment on Cele and some so-called C&S movements,Sabbath etc because some of those are led by Babalawo and ritualists, unfortunately. By their fruits you shall know them

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What is popular in Nigeria/Africa is what I talk about … I talk about trends remember

Indeed a relative

The whine yourself for their . Knowing that Pastor E.A Adeboye , Kumuyi, David Ibiyeomie , Oyedepo, Wale Oke and the rest of them that you know and might not know has a foundation from this so-called white garment churches does that void the gospel they have been preaching or the souls that has been won to Christ by virtue of their callings ?

Our foundation is Jesus, not denominations.

​@@BeingRealGeorgeThe old man that died is a brother to oyedepo's mother. As a Matter of fact, Bishop oyedepo is the host but the man is the leader in C&S and that is why C&S took over.

@@jideadekanye6516 I am aware …

Ibiyoemie was never feed and growed up in white garment, bcuz he didn't find the truth there, it is where he saw salvation that he was feed from, and again go listen to what he said again, he is a man of God and has been there, he has seen the errors and ways they conduct in spirituality, using some material and other native ways to conduct miracles, when you are in Christ be only in Christ don't miss it with juju or occultism

@@treasurefriday3619 so many things can not be understood by ibioyome that is why he tag them ocultic miracles. Except he finds the real WGC that worship God truely and come closer to them. Then can he understand those things he calls ocultic. Am sorry for the Pastor Ibioyome because he talks and lead his people with ignorance

Celestial church is demonic, believe it.

About white garments, leadership is the issue and they all know what they do in the dark not the members.

Who is papa?

He criticized tb Joshua many times and american pastors

@@GiftJerome I have been attending his church for close to 20 years. He stopped the testimony of someone who spoke against TB Joshua. So you know nothing about him.

@@kehindeadetiloye2221 I am a former salvation ministry miracle squad member if you don't know he yabs tb Joshua without calling his name when he yabs prophets staying close to water in Lagos it's tb Joshua

​@@kehindeadetiloye2221He really doesn't know him. Just based his judgement on hear say

No that’s not why… he wear that because he does not what to think of what to wear

Do you believe there are good white garments church or they are all occultist, witchcraft or mixture?

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That response to that singer is heavy.

​@@AO.1328. The singer is someone I followed and I listened to his song almost everyday, he has performed at several white garment churches and events, he has been featured and he has featured white garment singers as well. Though maybe he has issues with a few white garment churches but surely I know his not condemning all white garment churches

If you follow the video. You will see where Papa attended Esther Ajayi church or event. BRG @BeingRealGeorge is a detailed video with more than ine evidences. Dont limit your comment to his extended uncle

He has, u can search for them!

Passerby’s like this keep ranting about the only reason they follow me. When I post videos not about religion they become deaf and dumb and also blind 😎… they see the notification and scroll past. Only to come when it’s religious to ask questions as if they are new to BRG. Ogbeni you see what you like NOT what I post

I mean he watches preachers videos 24h but only searching for their mistake to tell the world. Remember that no human being can stop Christianity

@mannemo5053 Pele! Whatever you mean, there are many youtube channels, why not go there to watch Whatever you like. Block ursef off this channel, and stop hurting ursef. Has any human being stop Islam and Hindu? Even the traditionalist that Christians criticize every day, has it been stopped? Stop ranting on another person's channel, take a walk!

@@ayodeleayodele6500 please Judge or George should stop hunting pastors and christian.i know he has lot of demons followers they should walk pass Christian.

“This guy” is not your regular ode. If you don’t know where you are, ask questions. Don’t be acting like mumu