Penuel The Black Pen In Conversation with Rutendo Matinyarare, ANC, EFF, DA, VBS Bank, 2024 Election 

THE PENUEL SHOW WITH RUTENDO MATINYARARE 00:00 - INTRO 01:00 - Show begins 01:05 - Appreciation to Rutendo 02:55 - How have you been 06:34 - Working with Gov. & ZanuPF 07:52 - Sanctions 12:07 - South African banks imposed sanctions 15:05 - Zimbabwean loans from South African banks 18:25 - Zim Gov, DRC & Rwanda conflicts 33:40 - SA Gov. deals with other governments 38:08 - Possibilities of a SADC war 39:55 - What's the link between Zim, DRC & Rwanda 47:20 - Speaking out for & against countries 52:20 - Political violence & sanctions 56:05 - Different types of violence 59:05 - Weaponised sex (Mavuso) & smear campaigns 1:07:25 - Racial economic sanctions 1:10:35 - ANC 1:15:35 - How long should black people continue to blame white people 1:18:30 - How should black people move forward 1:22:50 - Sitdown with Adv. Ike Khumalo 1:25:00 - What do you think lead to the increase in coups in Africa 1:30:15 - What is a coup 1:31:15 - Understanding coups 1:32:35 - Zimbabwean elections 1:40:10 - DA leadership 1:41:26 - DA & EFF coalition 1:44:45 - DA governance 1:47:54 - 2024 elections 1:51:25 - Do black leaders have the capability to govern 1:58:55 - Do you support welfare states 2:03:55 - Nigerians in South Africa 2:06:03 - How Singapore got it right/survivors mindset 2:16:05 - Closing comments 2:18:40 - ENDS Created by Khwezi Ndlovu.

This guys Rutendo is very special,I'm from Rwanda but the way he explain things for those who don't understand how west work he is very well informed.

I was literally crying throughout the interview and then I realized that I can also change the situation where I am. Facing reality is hard but I keep growing from these conversations and I apply different strategies in my life.

I'm a black American with virtually zero knowledge of South African geo politics but the parallels of corrupt leadership is uncanny ... I will def subscribe to this channel and these 2 articulate gentlemen. Thank you for this important work, enlightening a global audience.

Big ups to the technical team. The visuals and sound are amazing. Thanks Penz for the great show.

This is what need to be included in the history curriculum 💥

Do we even take a moment to admire the lighting, coordinated colours & cinematic cameras? Man we are rolling 💪 today. Nice conversation

How i wish these kinds of talks can go viral.

I have to be honest, all the questions I’ve had growing up about African underdevelopment most of them have been answered here through this podcast with Rutendo as a guest. Some of them have been answered by Mam Arikana Chihombori-Quao. Thanks pen for your podcast. 🇿🇦

we are really inspired by this guy. we are learning a lot as ordinary south africans. thank you so much for the knowledge. i don't think ive attended school before, i don't know what else the degree i possess does for me other than to help me get financial credit. because wow, knowledge is power. We able to question things now, analyse, make better decisions, influnce those around us, teach our kids to pay attention to things that matters. what a time to be alive really, i'm grateful. Thanks Pen and your guest.

Really Rutendo keeps giving me more and more reasons to love him this man is amaizing I cant wait for another episode with him again

happy for you blessed team Rutendo do you know that you are a Prophet!!!!!! you are a saviour, a merntal saviour... The Gods of Africa and the God of the African people will bless you and will always be with you. You a a well celebrated Liberation fighter in the mauld of Tongogara and Chitepo etc... We in Zimbabwe are proud of you. You are a blessing to us and to our land and to all Africa.

I want to congratulate both of you for a well needed and thought provoking conversation. Every second of the semi debate had me holding on to my chair and eagerly anticipating what would be said next. We global Africans have a lot of work to do. In the words of Marcus Garvey “ Africa for the African at Home and Abroad”.

The second half of this sit down all the way to the end is easily a top 3 discussion of the Penuel Show, and I've seen a lot. Powerful.

I like it when someone is as articulate as this guy. I have been wondering about certain things which have been happening down here in the south and he plugged some of those holes now, thanks bro. I'm sure to join this channel, very informative.

I've been positively motivated ever since I started following this show your guests are incredible and one I wish you would be mentor Mr Black Pen🎉from small town Greytown

Wow . Thank you for this guy such a beautiful mind … my perspective of the ANC has been altered a bit and I must say a lot of things I wasn’t mindful of

This is what education is supposed to do. Produce thought leadership like Rutendo and you Penuel. This is what i want to hear in my life

10 mins in and my mind is blown🤯 Rutendo's episodes are always full of valuable information.

So reawakening.. are these conversations. Thank you guys.

I've learned a lot of history from Rutendo thank God you keep calling him back!

What a strong South Africa. Africa can stand firm at any point. Stand for Africans and their rights. We hope it will be getting better for Zimbabwe.

Give Penuel his flowers guys. He is a good at interviewing his guests.

What a great show. Thanks Penuel. Rutendo you have redirected my vote back to the ANC with warts and all🎉

Thanks for bringing in Rutendo definetely learned a lot ; all I want is a peaceful country and nation but now I see that as an African and a South African we need to put in a lot of work as the young generation to create a great peaceful nation for SA and for the African Nation.

Eish mafethu, I'm at work, please. I can't wait to listen to Rutendo and Pen yemunyama, to be honest I have learnt a lot from Rutendo, he changed the way I see things ,and my understanding of the geo politics has vastly improved, keep up the great work gents

Mr Rutendo, thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us🙏 I thought I was aware of what’s happening around me, but clearly I’m not😔

I love it when you two have a conversation

I have never seen a very well read, articulate and very confused person like this guy, the more he's given airtime to speak the more he messes everything, he's a narrowed, blinkered and biased person who deliberately see things from one perspective him and Maponga same team... I will come here for history lessons and not his opinions...as far as the history is concerned i salute him

I may not agree with Rutendo in everything he says, but I truly believe that he is a voice that must be always heard, every after a while ❤❤❤

Military for black people there I agree with you 100%, I have been saying this!

Eye opening conversation. Several points that really force us to have a reality check. Thank you for doing your part, Black Pen and your esteemed guest. May we continue fighting the good fight. ✊🏾

This mans brain is outstanding. He uses it to good effect. Putting action to words

Two powerful minds thanks Penzo for bringing Rutendo again

Tjo Rutendo u are an eye opener you are Zimbambian and you warning us not to hate of course but telling the truth viva Rutendo spread the love and truth my brother.

Rutendo has uplifted my life and spirit from the first day I got to know him and Penuel recently showed up to enforce that Lion 🦁 mentality and am a giant in my own sphere... Keep up the good work Black Pen🎉

Penuel, I was honoured to see you today at Gateway and actually shake your hand. It's something else to see you with my own eyes.

Awesome 💯 Guys like Rutendo should be given SADC and run with it as they look into the developmental status of this region. It will bring us together as people, it must be a mini-cluster of all Southern countries. Fix trade, fix visas, fix education, fix security, fix the economy, fix health, fix justice, fix sports, fix prisons,

GOLD. Thanks for another GOLD sir. I appreciate this insightful knowledge through conversation. You are the best.

Rutendo does articulate brilliantly. I recommend you take everything he says with a pinch of salt.

Credits to Rutendo we need more of you. Somethings he say might be personal or emotional attached, so some might not agree, but they are eye opener and makes one think critically and question for the better what they think or know or feel is. Credits to Penuel for your type of interviewing skills, the way you add comments, engage the guest and how you keep it all alive. Keep doing what you do and DO NOT CHANGE YOUR STYLE.

Interesting talk, love the analysis and how you bring back history to current terms

Thanks Penuel for bringing Mr. Matinyarare. Always learning something new by listening to him. He is a well of wisdom. PLEASE, PLEASE next time when you invite him, please let him break down the JSE as you have intended from the two previously sitting with him. I know he is going bring new and fresh information that most of us are not aware.

You are doing a wonderful job Rutendo Matinyarare!!! Keep up enlightening the masses!!! May the Almighty God be with you!!! Lots of ❤

Happy Monday. Shoutout to DJ Sbu, who is currently working in the USA! Hope you all had a great weekend, and will enjoy our latest episode. Thank you to all our viewers, subscribers and - most importantly - OUR PAYING MEMBERS. We love you 🙏🏽❤️

I am subscribed just to get notified when Rutendo comes back and J Maponga . These guys come to interviews prepared ... love it !

I stayed glued too ma phone till the end ,thanks again Pen we continue to learn eveytime u drop n to Rutendo aaaaai salute very informative guy n articulate in his points.

Rutendo is very well articulated and is well of knowledge and wisdom. Each time he comes on I always learn alot. That I'll give to him. But as a Zambian, living in Zambia. I can strongly confirm no protests have happened concerning Zimbabwe recently. About the Africom story. The government has denied it 😂😂(as they do about alot of other things)but we the people are vigilant and we do not forget. We use our voices in the ballot. His a good orator but alot of what he says needs to be sourced and fact checked, just to add more credibility to him and make sure we know what his saying is the truth. Otherwise very informative as usual big ups to team! Keep this man.

Rutendo is a force! As a South African, I'd say protect him! Few can do what he is doing.. God Bless him and the host

i like this man and every things he say i got inspired me since i started to follow this podcast

Sometimes I came to this page not to listen the guest but just to see pictures of this show, everything is coordinating your guys at the backstage they doing a very great job I feel like we deserve picture of this quality

Today i just want to appreciate the guys who are behind this platform with good visuals and quality sound,not forgetting the insane lightning system

Well done Rutendo. You're an educationist. People just need to understand your logic.

True am here because of Rutendo… big up from Oman 🇴🇲

If any intelligent African leader listens to Rutendo will thrive their economy. Africa and the world is saved from economic injustices by Rutendo Matinyarare.

🙌to you Rutendo we are selfish with you my brother may the high power keep you alive,Africans need articulate brothers like you

I understand why Rutendo has become a regular on the Penual Show ...he's very informative .The PS is the real edutainment...i won't be surprised if this channel reaches 500K to mil subs...the production and guest are at world class...so kudos 👏 to them ...tbh I most watch the Western/ American or European content

Im always game for a Rutendo interview

Thank you Penual , wonderful and riveting show. Rutando is the right person AU needs. Someone like him to be president of one Africa

Hey bro keep up the good spirit of liberating people's minds ,am from Zambia but my heart is in zimbabwe ,pamberi ne hondo

Pen plz get us a tax person to teach us about history of tax lik3 how it started and why, how we are taxed etc. I think it woupd be another dope convo Dope apisode as always🔥🔥🔥

Rutendo is just a historian who is so immersed in the past that he is oblivious of what`s good for the majority of Black Zimbabweans. He is the perfect example of what it means to use historical knowledge to push ZANU PF propaganda. He never talks about government corruption and incompetence, which still remains the major cause of African Strife

Free thinkers like Rutendo are needed at every university in Africa.

Thank you for introducing me to Rutendo Penuel ✊🏾

As a Zambian. This man is delusional.😂😂😂

Let's share these podcasts on our social platforms as much as possible. Our people need to hear these conversations.

An edutaining and challenging interview indeed. I have enjoyed it fully. Well done to Rutendo and Pen🥳

Thankyou guys what a lesson this was very informative

Always a good watch with Rutendo and as always, thumbs up to Pen

Before I listen to Rutendo I need to remind myself that I am not from Zim. I should not allow myself to get triggered by this man and has his gaslighting ways. 🤐

Insightful episode, so much info I’ll need to watch again…

Penuel I love your work !! -- more power bro from your Nigerian brother in America

Most Zimbabweans i have met here in Eswatini get agitated when you mention the name Rutendo. Their view is that he is pushing a propaganda narrative. Its a small sample of 9 Zimbabweans.

Rutendo very informed human being appreciate you sharing the knowledge!!

I have enjoyed this conversation very much.

I love these necessary conversations

Dear Penuel as your channel and platform keeps growing. I think it is high time you get a research team (that is if you dont have one already), they will prepare some facts and verifiable details regarding the questions you want to ask your guests. This will also help you to be equipped for each episode and also help with fact checking. So that your platform becomes a very educative and not just discursive platform. Last time u brought Ike Khumalo and allowed him spew is his "house negro" facts. Rutendo is well versed in Some African history and it is good that he is fighting for the lifting of sanctions against Zim, But he can not at the same time tell us that ZANU is the Answer once sanctions are lifted. Maybe in it's early formations ZANU had bright ideas but it has completely lost its way and needs to be called out. This has nothing to do with western influence. One can still call it's government out when it is not doing well for it's people even with the little it has.

Penuel my brother I must confess I didn't really like what you were doing and your show, but truth be told I'm more drawn to your show now. I wish you could have more sit downs with people like Rutendo who is a genius and well informed and informative to me at least. Keep up good work my brother

I feel happy when brothers dwell in harmony and discuss just like you do.

Thoroughly enjoyed this show! Big up Rutendo!

Rutendo's turning the sanctions issue as a opposed to Zanu PF's fuckups into a scapegoat will go down as one of the greatest marketing turnarounds in history. It shows that with the right spin any product can be sold

Probably one of the best interviews ive seen!

Rutendo u are a champion and penuel u are a hero boss love u guys for bringing light to us!

Thank alot Mr Black pen for a nice and fruitfull shower❤😊

Rutendo, always reminds me, how hard we must work as a South African, to remove ANC from power. ANC deligitimised itself to an extent that it can't fight back, when it's government is subverted. ACTIONS SA, PATRIOTIC ALLIANCE, ARISE, AND DA, must co-govern.

Whether Rutendo is right or wrong I will learn something from this conversation.

Brilliant discourse. Very insightful.

So educational ❤ and amazing interview

My IQ grows every time I watch Rutendo, especially on the Penuel show. What a library. Thank you Gentlemen.

Thanks guys,that was a good conversation,I always learn from you, keep it up ❤

“If this is not manufactured by my brother or sister , I’m not buying it “….. I felt that 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🥺

Thank you Rutendo. You are sharp and on point.

I told you guys! This Rutendo guy is Mnangagwa's golden boy! He is Zanu- PF at heart and he is very dangerous to Zimbabwen people and their future! He doesn't paint the real issues faced by Zimbabwen people.

This conversation was both intriguing and entertaining. I had never found current affairs programs enjoyable before, but now I am thoroughly enjoying your line up of guests. Matinyarare's ability to bring out events and connect them is truly eye-opening. I am particularly interested in your plan to include other nationalities in these discussions. I am eagerly anticipating hearing narratives from other SADC nations' perspectives.

Yhey today's conversation was so powerful and moving. It got me thinking a lot of things about this country and also the hard truth that South Africans are lazy to work and are a bit classist because of the comfortability that we have acquired from our democracy. I have a huge liking for Rutendo and for all the education that he has provided us with.

I'm 16 years old been following such things since I was 15 Unfortunately my youth doesn't care about this I'm worried about our up coming future.

@penuel please get Hopewell on your podcast,we all witnessed Zanu Pf threating PPL at the polls

@penuel you have to invite Rutendo at least once a week, whenever the guy comes to the show I always learn.

Very insightful!!! Thank you!!

This truly meaningful conversations. Tanks you giys.