What even competes with the new dumbbells, lol. Those other companies are just praying their prospective customers haven't heard of REP Fitness. Also the FAQ says a stand is in development, too.
The comparison of the new Rep/Pepin dumbbells to the Quick Draws as being the same as the Ares v1 to Ares v2 is misplaced. The new dumbbells are not meant to replace the Quick Draws. For some, 40,50 or 60lbs is all they'll ever need and they will spend half of what the Rep Pepins cost. One is not replacing the other. And also, Rep announced well in advance of this release that they'd be releasing a heavier version of adjustable dumbbells. As for the Ares, I agree that I can understand people being upset (especially those that just bought version 1) that version 2 came out. But all the flaws of version 1 were already well known (that the low row pulley was too low for some, that you couldn't do incline bench inside the rack, etc). Those that bought that version decided they wanted the system anyway presumably knowing those drawbacks existed. Others intentionally held back waiting (and hoping) that those issues would be addressed. I really don't blame Rep for improving the product. No one seems to complain when Apple releases a new version of their iPhone every year. It's what innovation is all about and I applaud Rep for listening to the feedback and making adjustments. For me, I would love it if Rep would make a fully adjustable low row similar to what Prime had done with its Prodigy racks. I know Rep claims you can use a bench (instead of sitting on the floor) but I'm not sure using the decline of a bench would be comfortable for me.
I have no issue with innovation but if you look at manufacturing in general companies don't like to make things that last . Exercise equipment is built to last .These companies selling fitness equipment make good solid products but they want return customers so they put out equipment that they know have some deficiencies that they are already working on before they release the initial product . THAT would be my issue with all of these companies . They will boast in their ad - our team of engineers have spent X amount of time creating what we think is the ultimate in etc etc . But upon release in a matter of weeks the buying public have noticed these issues because they are actually using them . Wouldn't you think the brilliant product engineers would have discovered these issues/concerns while they were spending that supposedly long amount of time designing the product BEFORE releasing it for sale ? They don't give a damn because they know if they build it eliminating those deficiencies people will buy it yet again .. While its true that not all equipment will work well for every person , the height and size of a user might alter the equipments effectiveness of course but if they quickly "fix ' the issue to address those problems I have to question just how much did the engineers really think about the public they were selling to ? Your comparison to Apple is not truly fair as the Apple phone can be used year after year -they create a new phone but nothing is wrong with the previous model . Its not the same as the flaws you describe being unable to perform incline work inside the rack . How did they NOT pick up on that before hand ?
Not really. Quickdraws are a different price point from the Reppin and are for those that don't need more than 60 lb. They are a choice. With Ares, they are both the same price and the same function and would be geared toward the exact same buyer.
@@GarageGymRadio The vertical pulling motion is one of the only movements that can't be easily replicated with free weights. My space is 12'x4' and I made sure I have enough room to fit one in.
Cannot wait to put hands on the Repin DBs at HGC, which may or may not lead to a preorder. Hoping they bring 125s and want to sell them after the event..
I love Rep, and these adjustables, but I really think people miss out on how much better fixed dumbbells are compared to adjustable. Fixed allow multiple people to lift at the same time, and I find the experience to be overall so much better. If you have the space I’d say fixed all day. Edit: fair enough to all the comments. For me personally upgrading to fixed over powerblocks has been the best decision I’ve made in the home gym game. It allows my wife to workout with me, and the ability to run the rack for drop sets is awesome. Also cost savings by going in 10 pound increments is always an option.
Also good to consider that the 5-125 urethane dbs from rep runs like $8700 before storage racks and space are considered. Could always buy 2 pairs of adjustable unless the feel of fixed is that much better for you
Cost of fixed is so hard to stomach. Even in CAD, $1500'ish for 105 lb dumbbell set? Amazing. Set of 5-50 is ~$1,000 CAD (storage not included). Nice urethane double that. Just the 85-105 range is more than this, I think.
I lift by myself and prefer adjustables, not just for the space savings but because warmups and just picking up the DB’s between sets is more efficient when I just have to grab them from the stand right in front of my bench that is a convenient height. I never have to pull 100lb db’s off the bottom tier or pick them up off the floor any more. Don’t miss my prostyles at all.
Agree, not sure what kurtlocker was saying--yeah, there's lots of lat pull and low rows already out there, and adjustable cable columns. But not in one unit.
@@rjm656 yeah, other than the Prime version and some knockoffs from China, I’m not sure that any other brand makes something quite like the Adonis. Rogue does have the CT-1x2 where you can get a 1:1 pull by combining the two exit points. But that’s basically a beefed up version of other two cable single stacks.
From the blog, lower start weight (10vs20lbs) adjustable cradle is the same for all 3 ranges. Goes up to 125. Plus much lower cost at all weights. Otherwise seems pretty much the same
Next I want to see Rep partner with Bulletproof. I would argue that Bulletproof is even more innovative than Rep, but they lack the resources and ability to bring products to market at an affordable price that Rep has. For the Home Gym consumer it would be glorious
To get BPF designs at REP prices would be awesome but I personally don’t think Larry would go that route. He seems like he prefers to control every aspect of the process and I don’t know if REP would give him that control.
Even if I had unlimited space, I would still go full Rep Rep has better standalone functional trainer Rogue only has an Assault bike, while Rep is looking to offer a full suite of cardio machines, Finally, Rep innovates over and over, while Rogue sits on it's arse
I don’t agree that Rep has a better standalone functional trainer. The FT-1 is a beast of a trainer. If space and money were not object, I’d pick that over Rep’s. I think it is fair to say Rep has better value (price versus performance) for their functional trainer.
@@GarageGymRadio I prefer the Squatmax MD to Rhino, and really nothing that Rogue offers these days isn't rivaled by someone else, plus other companies are constantly innovating and improving, while Rogue does nothing
@@fwiffo42 Also if you need a giant Functional trainer, get a dual Adonis with Pegasus and storage, for less than the FT-1 For me the FT-1 would cost nearly 8 Thousand dollars (with shipping and taxes) For that price, I could get a Wide seat Blackwing, a Pegasus seat, dual Adonis with storage and the new PepinXRep 125LBS dumbbells
