As far as I know, the skater here demonstrating the double push technique is French skater, Pascal Briand. I have seen the whole video once. Double push was and is still in fashion in in line speed skating world, but the its efficiency has not been persuasively presented yet. (There was an attempt.) Here the narrator says the technical point is "never stopping the engine" but conventional ice skating stride too never stops the engine, if you do it correctly.
@btbbuilder Curling was in the Olympics at 1924 a demo sport in 1932,1988,1992 and officially in Nagano in 1998. It's also the oldest Winter Sport in existence.
I stopped speed skating when our club folded around 1989 and took up bicycle racing, I still get out my quad skates and do some cross training on them, usually after I have done 130 km's including racing at A grade level. I found these videos after doing some research on inline skates, as I plan to purchase some inline speed skates and start racing once more.
I used to have the same problem, so I went to exercise more on a parking lot. I tried to keep the left foot off the ground as long as possible, rolling on one foot, thus exercising my balance also. Later the cross-over was just a by-product.
I have been doing double push on my quad skates since the late 80's, I learned this when training with the then Australia womens junior speed skater around a 480 metre oval, she had been shown it by a Italian speed skater coach. I had to first loosen my pivot rubbers right up so that I was able to swap directions on the skate very easily, it took a bit of time to get used to the very responsive turning of the skate at high speeds. But in a short time my lap times were falling.
That sure does sound like Eddy Matzger doing the narration. What an amazing person. His clinics are really transforming experiences. The really cool thing about the double push is that it is REALLY fun to do! It makes skating even more dance-like. It is so fluid, and so much fun. I do long-track ice as well, and classic ice technique is more elegant. But double push on in-lines is more exciting. Joremooog doesn't know what he is missing! :)
If you knew how to double push, I think you would love it! I prefer ice to in-line (skeeler) and you can not double push on ice, but it is a lot of fun to do, and it makes you faster and more efficient on skeelers. It also improves your skill at using the outside edges on your ice skates! If you learn the double push, you will have more confidence on outside edges on ice skates! Things change. Change is hard to accept, especially as we age. There will always be purists who will not change.
thanks for a very instructive video. I would call the second push in the double push, a push made possible by a pendulum effect brought about by the recovering leg, the weight shift, the outer fall, and of course gravity. if you see it this way, what you call the double push is nothing but an dramatically shrunk long-track speed skating cycle.
great demonstration but in fact the 1st push is on the kicked foot by outside edge and you bend your knee, then the 2nd push is happens when you transfer body weight to another foot, stretch up your knee and move the 1st foot to the rear (push by inside edge) Explanation : the double push is means one action force for two pushes, by this way the engine is never be stopped.
So you are going online on every clip you see and bull**** about how much you think you understand, I advise you to make your own videos and show us your true skating skills instad of wasting our time over dumb RU-vid comments Good luck
That's not quite fair to aggro skating. There are just as many amazing aggro athletes with some tremendous skills. It's just different, but equally cool IMO.
LOL.. but I'm afraid he succeed!! "Without good positioning..... and a good first push we stand a great chance of only swing a simple leg pull or pasage onto the outside edge instead of what should be a strong propelling second push"
wellia fruitbooter, and i agree this is pointless shit. but, tbh, ive been trying to push my speed recently and this WILL help, if downhill anyways. useless for agressive tho
woa woa. i can't really tell whether that guy at the start is going fast or not, but haha yea really nice double push there... one amazing thing abt double push is that it allows a 15 year old with 80mm wheels to keep up with 30 year olds with 90mm wheels :D
That so called technique is only a myth world champions skate in a totally different manner if you double push in that way in a long race your dead man! they are selling a fantasy, check a world championship and discover the difference this is an over exaggeration, in a short skate it is theatrical rather than technical !
@btbbuilder It may not seem like a hard sport,, but if you think about it curling is actually a really hard sport, those rocks they push are pretty heavy and its on ice, the slightest turn of the rock will ruin the whole plan, and to add on that the sweeping of the ice can determine how far the rock goes and how the rock turns so you have to know how long and how to sweep the ice in order for it to go where you want it to go.
You are right, of course, but I teach ice and in-line skating, and for most skaters learning the double push on in-lines gives you more solid outside edges when you go back to ice. And it is true, on average, sk8rboy, that as we age we have a harder time learning new things. Sorry to break the news to you! Double push is also fun for most skaters I know of who have learned it. I wish more ice skaters did in-line and more in-liners did ice. I think it improves your performance in both sports!
I can imagine doing this and my legs coming out from underneath me cause I didn't manage to change the direction of my wheels in time. Seeing as my only experience of inline skating is about walking speed when I was a kid, I'd probably like to master the single 'herringbone style' push before I started doing this. One of those techniques that's easier at speed but the penalty is also greater
