RU-vid is full of 40minutess nonsense video guides with close to zero effeciency , but here you managed to put all the vital info to 5 minutes. Thank you most kindly, sir.
ROUTER * WiFi 6 router preferred. * Separate the 5 Ghz and 2.4Ghz WiFi. Pico 4 will use the 5Ghz network. Turn off 5Ghz from your home network if possible. * Set the router to the best channel (use the WifiAnalyzer app to look for the least congested channel). * WiFi Mode: - WiFi 6 router: 11ac/ax - WiFi 5 router: 11 a/n/ac * Bandwidth: 80MHz (Pico 4 cannot use 160 MHz) * Network mode: Access Point Tip: Keep the WiFi router as close to your Pico 4 as possible. STREAMING * Bitrate: 75-100 Mbps (Not much difference between 100 and 150) * SSW: Off * Video buffering: Off (if lots of frame drops, turn on) SETTINGS * Environment Quality: Low * Frame Rate: 60 FPS * Desktop bitrate: 30 Mbps PERFORMANCE OVERLAY Game: Time taken for your PC to generate the image Encoding: Time taken to compress the image Networking: Time taken from your PC to your headset Decoding: Time taken to uncompress the image Tip: Click both thumb-sticks at the same time to view the overlay Tip: Test different quality settings and in-game quality settings to get the right balance between performance and quality.
My router was maxing out its CPU on the new H264+ encoding, switching my router from router mode to access point mode changed my experience from unplayable to perfect, thank you very much
Thank you very much for this video. I've been searching for specific information for hours, and I finally came across it here. Short, clear, and to the point.
Just wanted to thank you so much for this video. No joke (and as amateur as this may sound) I couldn’t for the life of me find any followable way to split a router in order to optimize my spendy gear for vr with VD. This was so clear, concise and helpful. You made my year lol. Thank you!!
Thank you for the feedback! My channel has been a bit slow with interest recently, so it is nice to know the content still helps people and that it is worth it to keep going! You've brightened up my morning! Really glad it helped 👍
For me it the game changer was my 2.4/5GHz wifi and thanks to this video i noticed it often connected to the 2.4GHz and not using the 5GHz, seperated the wifis. Works like a charm (y)
I tried out the desktop mobile hotspot trick and it does work very well with my experience for airlink. I just need to get better wifi antenna for my PC to get a line of sight for the quest 2. :)
I don't feel like I truly need less latency, but I'll play around with the settings a bit. If I could turn down bitrate to 100 and fix things up a bit by changing a few settings, it could make for a nice improvement. Turning in some games does feel a bit off, so perhaps this may fix that issue (it's not a dealbreaker, just very slight).
Video buffering will add to smoothness to wireless streaming and generally advised by VD to keep on as the latency difference would be minimal and stop any network introduced frame drops
Interesting, I found at worst case it added around 15ms of latency when on, and if you have a good network you shouldn't need it. If you can't get rid of the issue causing the frame drops then it is definitely the way to go 👍
Get a 6 ghz access point for your Quest 3. It's pure magic and gets 0 interference from any other signals in your area since it doesn't penetrate walls.
@Day Dreamer VR can you help. So im doing research on this to get better performance on my quest 3 if i buy a router dedicated for quest and plug directly into my PC how would i then plug my home router into my pc for online games? Am i missing something about how the dedicated router which will be an access point? Will it be plugged in via ethernet to my pc. So my question is how do i connect a new router to my pc for the quest to connect to and then how do i plug my ethernet lead that comes from my main ISP router? Not found any videos explaining
So you would need to plug your new dedicated router into your pc with an ethernet cable, and connect your Quest 3 to the 5ghz band of that new dedicated router. Then connect your old router which has internet into your new router by ethernet cable to provide Internet to your dedicated router. Your new router would be best to be setup as an access point. Hope that helps 👍 this image is a good example smartglasseshub.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/virtual-desktop-separate-router-setup.jpg
Will try this thax a lot I would like to know how all settings with mfs would be at the best possible way to enjoy the flight with shadow pc and virtual desktop running pico 4 and how to optimize the shadow pc settings would be optimized! I would love to hear from you m8 ❤❤❤ iw been struggling with get everything going but now I'm on good path of enjoyment Thx to your help Mr.🙏
I hope this guide helps. I haven't used a shadow pc myself, but I would recommend trying it with the bitrate set to about 50Mbps, and graphics settings turned down, then monitor the latency, and increase the settings bit by bit. If you are online gaming with other I wouldn't recommend the latency being any higher than around 45ms, the lower the better, but if playing a game just on your own then I find it okay up to a maximum of around 60ms. Hope you get it working okay for you👍
Were is this Virtual Desktop interface? I know I have seen it when using my PC/Meta Quest 3, but mine only shows Virtual Desktop Streamer app showing Accounts/Bindings/Options/Media/About? How can I see this tab with Computer/Environments/Games/Input/Settings etc etc?
Hi, so you need to download the app on your PC and when you open it you will need to add your meta user name onto it. Then you need to buy the virtual desktop app in the Meta store on your headset. Then when you open the app in the headset, and whilst having it open on your PC, the app in your headset should show your pc is available to connect to. The app on the headset them has all of those settings etc. Hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR I use it all the time (playing HL:Alyx at the mo') but I cannot find this UI again .. ha ha! I know I'm missing something simple as I have seen it before!
@@DayDreamerVR Got it! .. You have to start the Virtual desktop App inside your Meta Quest 3 , but not the desktop app, to be able to edit the settings/Streaming! Phew! EDIT> Actually, it may be there even with the desktop app running .. I think the UI with Settings/Streaming etc hides itself almost instantly after first loading and to make it appear again you have to click the settings/3 lines button on your left Meta controller!
@@coolmacatrain9434 it does hide it 😃 if you are in a game or something, long press that same button and it will take you back to the virtual desktop view/settings, enjoy 👍
I take it that you are using virtual desktop? What are your individual latencies for game, encoding, network and decoding? Could be worth going on the virtual desktop discord if the tips in this video don't help, happy to help if I can though
@@matthewfryer5723 Not a problem at all. Those numbers seem quite reasonable, as they are fluctuating, is that the worst it gets to or about the best? With those numbers what is the overall latency? Do you experience stuttering or delay when gaming? The network latency seems good, so the only way to reduce latency further would be to reduce the resolution or in game settings, but those numbers do look okay, unless you are experience stuttering etc. Just odd the overall latency was up to 90ms-would be good to know what the numbers are when it fluctuates that high/higher than 50ms
I have a quest 3, tp-link ac1200 mesh (Archer C6) router, Ryzen 5 1500X and GTX 1650S. I have set the router on ap and 5ghz mode. So far both airlink and steam link have been terrible experiences. they caused bad performance and constantly crashed while playing. VD has been much more stable, however i don't feel like i'm having 72fps while playing. It feels more like 40-50 frames, even though it shows 72 on overlay most of the time and it's stuttering every 10 seconds. What should i do to have a smooth experience?
Have you had a look at fpsvr? I would get that app on steam, and run it when using Steamvr through Virtual desktop. I would put synchronous space warp always on, and probably keep the resolution setting as low as it goes in in virtual desktop to start. Then go into steamvr, bring up the fpsvr overlay, and check what the cpu and gpu usage is. Bring up the virtual desktop performance overlay, and check all of the frame times and latency. If everything is showing as running well and keeping 36/72fps (it might show 36 due to having synchronous spacewarp (ssw)/reprojection on) try and launch your game, then monitor cpu and gpu usage, and if you get a bad experience or if the cpu/gpu usage and frame times are too high, then reduce all settings and try again. 1650s might struggle with VR, but with ssw on, and settings low you might have a chance. Hope you manage to get it running smoother 👍
They don't have to be, don't worry, does it still connect? It is just advising you in case you thought you were connected to the same network, connecting through two separate networks will transfer the data between them, and will require a good connection between the two, and could add latency 👍
Thx but in other videos i saw they were connected. I have a 500k net and i use tplink repeater as accesspoint for the quest 3 and shadow with my old laptop. Shadow has so much potential but it doesnt work good for me 😮💨
@Privat846 What is your latency like over the network, and are you on a fiber connection I take it? Could be worth going onto the Virtual Desktop discord to see if they can help diagnose any issues. Hope you manage to sort it👍
@@privateklingel by connecting the link cable to the launcher, do you mean connecting the link cable to your laptop? That would get rid of some latency this side of the network. Other options would be to turn down bitrate, lower the resolution quality setting, don't have asynchronous space warp on, make sure your laptop is connected to your router by an ethernet cable, have a higher refresh rate on your headset in VD if the shadow pc can manage it, that will all help keep the latency down 👍
My main house router is in an office away from the bedrooms that have Quest 3's. I want to have a dedicated router for virtual desktop for each bedroom, does the dedicated router need to be plugged into the main house router? I would not be able to plug the bedroom PC's into the dedicated router via Ethernet if so, it would be too far away. What's the best solution here?
It all depends on what games you are playing, if you are playing offline games then you don't need to connect your dedicated routers to your main router with ethernet, but you would need to connect your PC to your VR router with an ethernet cable. If you are playing online multilayer type games then it is best to connect your vr dedicated router to your main router with an ethernet cable, as well as an ethernet cable to your PC. If you don't connect your VR dedicated routers to your main router with ethernet, then they would need to be setup so they use WiFi to connect to your main router. Hopefully I've understood correctly, and hope you find a solution 👍
Cant go any further in Bitrate than 85mbps and I have the whole cake setup, Gigabit Ethernet + dedicated Wifi 5Ghz AP mode (866mbps and close 1m away from the router). (saw in your video you have 75mbps, so now Im thinking its everything is ok). HEVC 10bit Quest 2
75Mbps is a good amount to keep latency low with an okay image, but you should still be able to get higher. Have you split the 2.4ghz and 5ghz bands on your router with different names? This is so you know you are connected to the 5ghz band? Although 866Mbps connection indicates your connection bandwidth is fine, so you should be able to get a higher bitrate. When you say you have gigabit ethernet, I take it that is directly between your dedicated router and your PC? HEVC does have a lower maximum bitrate, whilst H264 has a higher max bitrate. For image quality, a 75Mbps HEVC will be better than 75Mbps H264. The virtual desktop discord is also really good for advice if needed discord.com/invite/ydavZEmW Hope you manage to sort it/are happy with what you can get it to 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Tks for the reply, i will follow your channel and watch it deeply. My setup is (PC ethernet (1,000mps gigabit) -> "Internet Router" -> on cable to 5Ghz (Dedicated 866mbps) in AP mode. So I was reading that my 5Ghz is only 10/100mbps then probably this bootleneck my connection, BUT EVEN if I connect Quest straight to 5ghz through the Internet Router, I cant get more than 85mbps in both scenarios. (PS: The "internet router" I leave the 5ghz signal OFF so I have only 1 5ghz in my home (the other router dedicated). (Yes, I use the 5ghz dedicated signal, just Quest 2 use this alone on the "second" router).
@@GoMArkkrAM The best way to try it is PC--->dedicated vr router--->Internet router. This is because you are sending your signal straight between the dedicated router and pc, without it needing to go through another router. The Internet router transfering/processing the data could be the bottleneck between your dedicated one and your PC, I hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR i will buy a wifi 6 soon as some bucks left, or a 1.000mbps 5ghz to connect it straight and out of any co-relation with that internet router). (Ps. Even connecting on the internet 5ghz router and doing everything on only 1 router i get same results (but i have a bunch of devices hanging on 2.4ghz on that router, i thinks because it i cant get good results. But i still have totally acceptable 75/80mbps high settings, pretty much a crispy image must say!
will it turning water into wine 🍷 graphically speaking (and even performance) if i upgrade to wifi 6 AX1800? My fear is to spent a budget which is tight at the moment and not experience a great change/upgrade in image. (If ya can put it in how % i can gain) thanks so much pal
I haven't actually tried that whilst monitoring latency. I think you can switch that setting on/off in game. Put up the performance overlay on and then try it on/off in game, I'd be interested to know how it impacts latency. I would have thought it adds a slight bit of latency, but will try it myself asap 👍
Hey boss, can you let me know what wifi analyzer app you used? I've searched the apple app store, none of them show interference or present channels being used. I know there's options for Windows, but I don't have a network adaptor to use it. If you used an iphone for this, I'd appreciate a link!
Hi, sorry I am on Android. I use this one, but I don't know if it is available for iPhone:play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=abdelrahman.wifianalyzerpro
Hello, I have a question that I hope you can help me with. My coumputer is now on Wifi, can't get it to ethernet. If I buy a router with wifi 6 and connect it to my computer via cable, and in pico via wifi, even that in this router there will be no conection and my PC will still be connected via wifi. Will it work properly? Thanks.
If you get a router and connect it to your PC with an ethernet cable, and set that router as a repeater (it connects to your WiFi network and passes the Internet access on) then you should be able to connect your headset to that router, and everything between your headset and computer should work well 👍
I did a video here which might helpb ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7ycwzv3XpKU.html If you can't solve it then it might be worth going on the virtual desktop discord channel, they are really helpful and it is easier to problem solve there. Hope you manage to sort it 👍
Glad you are pleased with it 👍I found it brilliant for the Quest 2, but unfortunately found the signal strength varied when using the PICO 4, that could have just been the PICO 4 not having as strong a signal as the Quest 2, which is a shame as I loved the small form factor
until today i have the message that my pc's not wired in ethernet, but it is, and in the same wifi, any idea? i've done nothing and virtual desktop don't recognize my ethernet connection now?
Is your PC showing as connected by ethernet? I'm not aware of what could be causing this, it could be worth going onto the Virtual Desktop Discord channel, they're really helpful. Hope you manage to get it sorted 👍
@@DayDreamerVR thanks for reply, yes my pc is recognized as connected with ethernet. my box is connected on the wan port to the router and the pc is connected on the lan port of the router with 1gb ethernet cable. It was fully functional and today it show ethernet pc: NO on my VD streamer.
Question, I have my pc connected to wifi, and my room has no ethernet ports. I am currently using virtual desktop to run games like gorilla tag on steam vr. When in virtual desktop, it does warn me that performance will suffer due to not having an ethernet cable plugged in. I am planning on getting a dedicated router just for myself, because of the high networking and latency issues. Can you give me some good choices for a router and how to go about connecting it to my pc via ethernet, and have steam vr lag less?
Hi, so whatever router you get, it will be best to set it up as an extender - or you might even get away with just getting a wifi extender that has an ethernet port for your PC. Virtual desktop recommends the following routers: Sole/Upgrade (AX) - Asus RT-AX86U ($300 US) Dedicated (AXE - Wifi 6e *) - TP-Link AXE5400/AXE75 ($160-$200) Dedicated (AX) - Netgear WAX202 ($60 US) Portable (AC) - Opal GL-SFT1200 ($50 US) Dedicated (AC) - TP-Link Archer C6 or A6 ($40 US) Hope that helps 👍
@@DayDreamerVR Thanks! Sorry to ask for help again, but do you know of anything that will lead to less latency during gaming? I had a networking problem, but should be solved when I get one of those new routers. Still getting some minor encoding issues and high latency issues(around 80ms)
@@DayDreamerVRi think im using oculus streamer and not I'm connected to my pc with a USB and im using virtual desktop. I didint know it was possible to connect quest 2 to pc with an ethernet cable because there's not plug in for it. I just have my router and my pc connected with ethernet
@@jeffbutt4350 sorry, still a bit confused, if you are using oculus link with a USB cable then you shouldn't have any lag, try reducing all of your graphics settings to see if that helps. If you are using virtual desktop wirelessly then I would recommend going on to the virtual desktop discord as they may be able to help, hope you manage to sort it 👍
@@jeffbutt4350 connect your headset to your PC with a USB cable, then open the Oculus app on PC. Then go onto your headset and it will ask if you want to enable link. If it doesn't ask you, then go to the settings and find oculus link to enable it. It should then take you to another environment, a bit like steam vr. Once set up, you will still have some latency, but it can be slightly less than wireless
Would love if VD actually worked, since i bought it for 20 dollars. But it doesn't work with antivirus programs, which makes VD useless, since i'm not dumb enough to turn off a firewall and generel protection.
What antivirus do you run? I haven't had to turn off the standard windows firewall etc. Have you been to the Discord server, they're very helpful, hope you get it sorted 🤞
Lol, I've had that comment before, can't remember if it was on this video or another, but 192.168.1.... Is an internal only ip, and everyone has that as the internal ip (which isn't accessible from the Internet). You have an external one which you don't want to give out as that can be accessed 👍
