its my current palace, i hope the next one will be better. i'm tired to set that machines to "lunch time" and trigger a 30s cutscene -.- EVERY TIME!!!!
I always picture decarabia as being super resistant to attacks, and I forget that in 1/2 of the SMT games he's just super weak to gun/phys. Maybe it's just the tetrakarn that gets me.
Gryffen snyder-chavez "I see you were trying to conserve SP here, would be quite a shame if you...... *were forced to use magic instead of physical attacks* " o3o
Magenta Magenta I beat it in 1 day on hard if you have sp adhesive 3 for every party member ranked up a few confidants to get their abilities and then have personas that block or repel physical damage which you can get from this palace it becomes a cake walk and I for one actually really enjoyed its level design and music boss is kinda meh though if you even call it a boss fight
sequoyachu98 I had to use it for the fight with... I'm not gonna say it since it's a huge spoiler and I don't want to ruin it for other people but it's after the palace that is after this.
Joker: Mona, I’m really glad that you found Haru when you did, truly. But where, when, and how did you get her a fake Axe and a Model Grenade Launcher? Noir: ...Fake? Oh! Do you use model weapons here in the metaverse? Joker: ...
What she says about the chocolates when you do harem valentines day is actually pretty scary. She goes: "take my chocolate please...before I crush it" in the creepiest tone of voice
Did anybody else go into P5 expecting Haru to be this confident and imposing character who perhaps let the power go to her head a little too much? Such a 180 from what I expected. Still love her tho.
i expected futaba to be a villiain before playing the game,during the gameplay i expected her to be the real medjed,my expectations were right,but not in the way i was thinking
The best part of this Palace to me is how eerily relatable it is. Anyone who's worked for a big company, even a decent one has probably still seen fucked up shit that instantly takes them to this Palace. And for the developers to capture it in such vivid and realistic detail is just astonishing.
@@King_RowletNot realistic? You live in a very ignorant mindset if you don’t think sweatshops and overworking and underpaid workers isn’t a very real work issue. More so overseas where labor laws are a lot less strict.
I just looked up Milady. She basically lies, tricks, seduces, and murders men for revenge, power, and money. Its ironic that, with Milady's background of marrying one of the three musketeers Athos, who was Milady's first husband, that Haru wears a musketeer's outfit. Could this irony be that Haru will be faithful to whomever she marries, yet she rebels against her own father?
I don't know if Atlus put too much thought into the fact that Milady de Winter is a VILLAIN in Three Musketeers. She's a pretty horrible person. I think they just liked the idea of a Musketeer design for Haru, and...well..Milady IS the most famous female character from that book, even if she's one of the bad guys.
MrMrMrprofessor People view Haru as a liar, most likely because of her father. That’s reflected in her outfit and Persona. The whole point of the costumes and Personas is so that they take off the mask that society gives them. That’s why she literally takes off the mask on her suit to summon her Persona.
Okumura: You will never defeat me! Hahahahahaha!!! *summons waves upon waves of mooks* *mooks get defeated* Okumura: I will not be defeated easily!!! Joker: *taps shoulder* Okumura: *dies*
I beat it in one day, _and_ beat that bitch Okumura without any grinding. Those brain gymnastics... _Profuse sweating_ Honestly though, I loved this Palace! Finally something willing to _kick_ my ass! :D (Have yet to finish the game, am just past this Palace.)
@@BlaizeTheDragon yeah but it made the boss a lot worse. Honestly I was only scared for Okumura's fight because there are like 28462 tutorials for this palace on yt 🤣
@@LFCBinzy As someone who went up against Okumura, on Hard, on a Solo Joker run, the fear is 100% justified. I got my ass handed to me so many times that I switched to Merciless just so I could do enough damage in Royal.
Do you know what’s especially scary about Okumura’s palace (Aside from the difficulty, amirite)? The cognition of Haru’s fiancé is literally no different from the real life version of him. Okumura _knew_ how awful he was, and yet he intended on selling Haru off to him anyway. That scene alone made me hate him.
Okumura before his change of heart is literally one of the worst fathers one can be. He didn't even view Haru as a person, only as an asset that he could employ any way he wanted.
Define "sweatshop": A factory where workers are employed at a very low wage and work long hours under poor conditions. That fits this Palace and the ruler pretty well. Almost too well.
i already knew this, but reading this and not thniking it makes me wanna cry. (keep in mind my empathy is super low) I mean can you blame me? Persona 5 is deep af.
To anyone having trouble in this Palace: For the first part of the dungeon (collecting ID cards), make sure to always have Ann and Morgana in your party as the little robots in this section are weak to wind and fire so eliminating them is your first priority before you attack the main chief of the fight. Make sure you are always using skills that begin with "Ma," since they attack multiple foes at once. When you take out the smaller robots, the chief will repeatedly summon one, while he is doing this you want to always take it out so he's stuck in an endless cycle of summoning a robot while your other two party members are focusing on damaging him. Second part (dealing with the moving pads, along with the 30 second time limit), make sure to at least eliminate the mobs that block your way otherwise you will just end up getting attacked, and ambushed while sprinting to your next pad. This part is fairly easy since there are no real robots to deal with. Third part (reaching the end of the pads, and encountering the small golden robots similar to the one from the first part), make sure to bring Yusuke along as these robots in particular are weak to ice. Every turn he will hit their weak point which will cause him to engage in constant +1 more moves, making it very easy to deal with these foes. Fourth (airport flying, or whatever), I have nothing for this since I pretty much figured it out on my own with a bit of backtracking. Fifth (boss fight), for this all you need to remember the color of the robots so you can make out what they are weak to. I don't remember what the tall red and blue robots were weak to, but I know the giant, green one is weak to Psy? The fight after that will be the executive chief, keep in mind that this specific boss has no real weakness (or I don't think it does since I never hit a weak spot on it), and actually takes time to beat with patience. After you fight him, you will finally face-off Okumura who can be defeated in 1-2 turns. A lot of people here probably finished the Palace but I just wanted to throw that out there, good luck. :)
@@egg8404this banger of a theme must have been put in Okumura's Palace because the devs knew it was going to be even more suffering than it already is otherwise. I may lose half of my mind, but at least I get to listen to some dang good beats while Im losing it.
I think they went for the full atmosphere thing here. Since the shadows come from how Okumura sees his workers, of course most of them will be a lot more used to physical stuff if working so hard physically is the norm for them. Things like that are why I actually really like this palace loads. Or why you've gotta go through just mobs and mobs of enemy shadows. Okumura sees them as expendable and replenishable. Sounds a bit counterintuitive, but the fact that the palace furthered the theme of Okumura so much, it's got its memorable and sensible parts cause of it
Miguel Carvalho Is not really that bad, in fact is one of my favorite because of the ambience, I think that the principal reason why People hate so much this palace, are the enemies of this palace.
Okumara's palace is extremely underrated. The theme sounded, the shadows moved, the personas attacked, the puzzles were puzzles, and Okumara was a boss. This is truly one of the palaces in the game hands down.
@@superluigifanful I personally hate it because it overstays its welcome fast with how resistant each enemy is and how annoying the puzzles are. I got stuck on one of the puzzles in particular for an hour. Plus, its theme is really repetitive. Sweatshop is one of the only songs in this game I just don’t like.
@Allustar Plays fair tbh I put on my favorite show while doing the keycard part in the og p5 and in royal they made it better also I really like the theme so I guess I just didn't suffer from the issues
My only complaint about this palace is that this one was the only one that didn't take place in a classic heist location. Palaces like the castle and the art gallery (I'll avoid pointing out the later ones to avoid spoilers) are usually targets in heists and fit well with the gentleman thief motif. This one was really out there and didn't fit well with the rest of the game. I did like the puzzles though.
There's a reason why it didn't seem like it fit with the rest of the game. That's a story spoiler though, considering what happens when you beat this palace, and all the things you learn about the palace owner, and the reason why they are the target that's chosen. The game throws this palace as a curveball because that's its purpose, to throw you off. It fulfills its role perfectly and the game doesn't ever suffer from it, it's so good how the game plays out.
I agreed with that at first when reading it, but given the music, the space station, and the gentleman theif theme...It gave me a Cowboy Bebop feel. The Shadow costume RUINED IT, but I would argue that it could be an homage to all the sci-fi tropes where they make Space Westerns...even Trigun could fit in that category. Youre right, the execution was kinda garbage. Anticlimactic for the end... But listen to this and then Cowboy Bebop Jupiter Jazz.. I think this is what they were after
Soulnfinity Stealing the Death Star plans??? there's lots on theivery of the Empire in star wars. Okumura is a clearly dart Vader (altered voice and lite Brite chest.)
this was the only palace i absolutely despised because the scenery was so boring.......... i did it in one in-game day and felt dead inside afterwards because my brain hadn't been stimulated at all. it was just gray and sad and the music had no major dynamics to it but at the same time... maybe that represents the monotony of the workers?? and the lives they lived?
She kinda was though. 1. Senpai 2. Empress Arcana 3. Filthy rich, inherits a business 4. Engaged to a guy she doesn't want to marry, can get together with MC instead 5. Father is killed by the traitor
I think one of the most insulting points on this SP-conservation nightmare of a Palace is that the fucking Lilims can use Spirit Drain. They knew. They KNEW this Palace would be an absolute bitch to finish in one day because of the amount of SP you need. Thinking about it, maybe thats the point of this palace. A sweatshop that slowly drains your mental fortitude, but unlike the Thieves who can head out for the day or two and recover, the poor employees under Okumura dont have that option, forced to work themselves to the point of physical and mental collapse.
Well,if we're getting technical here, the guy was just using the food industry as a stepping stone to get into politics. So he didn't exactly care about his company anymore.
This is why the dungeon emotionally disturbed me so much. The analogies it uses can be applied strongly to real-world counterparts, try as I may not to dwell on it or on what world we live in >_< It's why I appreciated this game so much more, though.
I absolutely adore Haru, but she was introduced much too late for her to be useful. I didn't have enough time to finish her confidant, and I didn't have time to properly max her out. I used Ryuji and Makoto, and Haru's gun skills complimented the team nicely. But she was just underpowered (on NG+ when you don't have to worry about social stats, she's a lot better). So when Akechi joined the party I was really fucking happy, he was of a great power level, and his Bless, Curse, and Almighty skills worked perfectly. But we all know how that turned out...
Jamie Metcalfe Seriously ,Akechi was OP as hell. I wish he had stayed for a longer time so it wouldn't arouse suspicions of him that easily. Would love to have used Robin Hood more than I did!
I felt like every time I used him, he wouls die from a stray mudo skill. Especially when I went farming in mementos, I would have to revive his butt. And that's why you never have a weakness to hama/mudo skills, kids.
You mean the part where you find out that Akechi was pure evil? That he doesn't deserve respect, symparthy, empathy, or even forgiveness? Yes! Akechi deserved to die in the end, after all the people he killed, including Oracle's mom and Noir's dad. And no, Shido is just a client, Akechi is the hitman directly responsible for the murders.
Idk man, I thought this palace was terrible & super tedious when I played P5. They made it a lot shorter & more tolerable in P5R, but after playing Persona 4's never-ending grind fest dungeons - I really don't mind the OG Space Port at all.
In this Palace right now. I don't know how I feel about the gimmicks so far, but the idea of us exploring a SPACE STATION is super cool to me, and this music sets the theme. It's a very neat setting.
Shawn Peterson Yeah imo the space station aspect was really cool and I enjoyed the air lock puzzles, if only for the fact that you were floating through space.
The only thing I really didn't like were the massive amounts of physical resistant enemies. The puzzles were some of the best in the game and the music is amazing.
Tora Kyte Oh god yeah, ran out of sp really quickly in this one, I think this was around the first time I actually needed to swap out my party members.
fuck royal's okumura fight. genuinely fought him like 8 times before I beat him, that fight was asinine. IT WASN'T EVEN DIFFICULT MAN IT WAS JUST TEDIOUS AS FUCK.
I feel like Haru is a sadist underneath the fluffy exterior. Her comments in Mementos has convinced me of that, and seeing the background of her initial persona Milady, I can only fathom the thought of Akira enduring hell if he romances with her, since the confidant explanation says that he becomes her new fiance.
"The treasure is just passed this door" (or something similar to that quote) Oh man the false sense of hope Persona 5 gave me. Despite that being said a couple of times I still believed it was true so it hurt more when I was hit with airlock puzzles. Even though i could come back another day refreshed but you know once I enter I don't come out until ive secured the route to the treasure. it would be an inconvenience to the time I need to spend with confidants
I probably would have killed myself about a third of the way through this palace if not for mah boi Mitra (or was it mithra?). Those Makougas made the elephants almost bearable.
This is probably my favorite palace theme so far. I liked the palace, but that Morgana troll moment kind of got me. "The treasure's right through this door!" *Had to make three more long trips and bring SP drinks*
This Palace may get a lot of hate for how tedious and unforgiving it can be if you're not prepared (don't even get me STARTED on the boss fight), but you cannot deny that this theme absolutely SLAPS.
@@ProfessorGopher2030 Yeah! This fight feels like it was just meant to be taken in one way and only one way only. If you try to use any other strat you just can't get past this fight at all almost like most of the secret bosses in persona style. It doesn't help that the robots have higher health compared to the ones you fight before.
Honestly...I've been through Tartarus. And I've played Persona 1. AND I compulsively breed Pokemon for perfect IVs and ev train them. For hundreds of hours at a time. This dungeon is nowhere near tedious.
Mannequin Victoria Chase Its not just that, people usually go physical because it has more mileage when it comes to clearing dungeons quickly due to SP costs of healing < SP cost of attack magic So being forced to use attack magic more often than not makes the dungeon artificially longer (and note that alot of people already found it tedious with its puzzles and navigation)
XxKyKiske2007xX the only bad part of the casino one was the panels and dark Maze Imo. Some of the ideas were really cool. Maybe I just love casino levels...
Me: Man! This game is way too easy with SP Adhesive 3s! I can use my Arts freely and Attack to recharge. So glad there’s no enemies resistant to physical attacks. Okumura’s Palace: *Physical repelling enemies exist* Me: Oh crap...
@@XenotamaZenith I always made sure to pick up a few of these from Shiroku Store in P4 (especially when it was raining); they're a lifesaver early in the game.
One of my fondest moments of this game was when I first entered Okumura’s dungeon and this theme started playing...it was 3am, nobody was awake....and I got up and danced shamelessly for a good 10 minutes.
Haru telling about the abuse and neglect she has faced and coming to reconcile with that as well with how awful her father really is. The background music absolutely going off!
That Airlock part... Actually, i wanted to go into the airlock part of the palace ever since i saw it in trailers. It was the part of the game i waited for since beginning of playing it. ...I kinda loved it.
I will have 2 big bang burgers, a big bang burger large, a Saturn potato with extra dip, a moon burger, 2 earth burgers, one with cheese and a large soda
The boss of this place goes to show how much Frontline workers take a beating from the public. What's better is that these enemies resist physical damage🙏🏾
Okumura's boss fight was among the best in the game as it actually demanded you to think about your moves. People be blasting Okumura's palace and boss fight when Kaneshiro exists.
@@ProfessorGopher2030i mean it very easy if you know how to do but a 30 minutes remain is a stupid thing, even if you strategy but if time over ? I play in Hard Mode for the first play and it give me 💩 while take so long to fight all their robot.
This palace sucks, the level design is boring, and the enemy's are stupidly annoying *cough cough* ghirimekala, but the theme is fire so I like it Edit: well they fixed the palace in Royal, but now Okumura is way too annoying, god damn it Atlas
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