Giants fan here. If Pete beat his wife, had an alcohol problem, did drugs or had a gambling addiction to anything other than baseball, he would be in the HOF. He made a mistake, but he's paid for it 20 times over. Pete Rose deserves to be in Cooperstown.
Pete will not go to the Hall, he won't do it their way which is begging and pleading. Besides, baseball keeps referring to rehabilitation and Rose which no Commissioner has ever defined. When there is money involved like this there is no rules, no integrity, just a bunch of filthy rich bullshiters trying to get top dollar for a worn out form of sports entertainment. How many people have gone to a sporting event and said this price is reasonable? The only thing they don't charge you for is using the bathroom. Maybe they should then fans could take a shit on the field, stands, even on players.
None of those things threaten the integrity of the game, which is essential to the perpetuation of the league. I dont get how people dont see that. Same reason Joe Jackson was banned.
Tim Johnson I have gone to a game and said this price was reasonable. Go to a rangers game in Texas, buy the Chilula( don’t know if that’s the right name) seats. Anywhere from 32-60$ for all you can eat, burgers, chicken,popcorn,hotdogs,nachos,peanuts,soda and ac. To be honest, those tickets are way to low for all you get. So don’t say everything is overpriced or you have to pay for everything. We didn’t pay for parking either, we just parked at six flags because we have free parking there.
@@allcinionexplainsitall5869 He should say that not only did he bet on baseball but he bet on the Reds. He should say that he realize that that means when he didn’t bet on the Reds that gamblers knew to bet against the Reds. He should admit to lying his ass off for years and years and years and years and years about betting on baseball and the Reds. He should say that by betting on the Reds he may have hurt careers by overworking starters or treating a May 5 game like the World Series. He doesn’t say that. He just kisses up to Bench and Perez and Morgan. I’m sure we’ll never find out if he threw meaningless September games to payback gamblers. But given that he lied about everything else and that he was a degenerate gambler, it seems likely that he did.
Rose is the hit master. Fine, don't put him in the HOF as a manager. He played harder than anyone else that I ever saw, and I'm a Yankees fan. But first and foremost I'm a baseball fan, and Rose epitomized the spirit of playing baseball. He deserves to be in the HOF as a player.
I agree.... Rose deserves to be in HOF for what he achieved as a player But I think he also deserves to be banned from all other matters involving baseball but HOF, specially managing a team because of his gambling problem.
@@_1ben Most Reds Fans,No Actually Most Baseball Fans Disagree With You!!!,The HitKing Belongs In The Major League Baseball Hall of Fame!!!,Without a Doubt
@@rgarrison1819 I agree with most of your statement except for this "without a doubt " maybe I could see if we get ride of codes, ethics, laws and allow pedophiles in as well
The Greatest Player to not be in the Hall of Fame is more iconic than to just be in the Hall of Fame. Pete Rose is more discussed to this day more than most Hall of Famers in Cooperstown!
Your close .... the 1927 New York YANKEES led by the greatest baseball player ever, Babe Ruth, was the greatest team. "Murderer's Row" Lazzeri, Lou Gehrig, and the Babe.
@@LordofDublin4 Sure, before the integration of MLB, however, post MLB integration, it's the '75 & '76 Cincinnati Reds, which carries allot more weight, just my opinion...
Great speech! I’m an Expos fan; and we got to lose to Pete’s Phillies in the playoffs in 1980, got to beat Pete’s Phillies in the playoffs in 1981 and had Pete in our lineup in 1985 for his 4,000th hit at home at the Big “O”. Watching it live, I was thinking “Is this really happening? Or am I dreaming?” Pete Rose in an Expos uni hitting his 4,000th hit at home in front of a capacity crowd. Living Legend Pete Rose!
I'm 56 I grew up in Columbus then later in Hamilton and the Big Red Machine brought so much enjoyment watching them play. Pete Rose is truly student of the game, a walking encyclopedia!!!!
I don’t know that I agree with you on this one. I believe Pete should be in the HOF. Just listened to Johnny on Dan Patrick’s show, and he, Joe Morgan, and Tony Perez tried to negotiate with Peter Uberroth, who said if certain conditions weren’t met, he was out for life. They went to Pete, and he told em, “I’m gonna beat this.” And, he didn’t. Giamatti hung him out to dry. Which was his right as commissioner. I’m a lifelong Reds fan. Watched this lineup many times as a teenager and young adult. Respect all of them as the greatest players in my lifetime so far. This was one situation where Pete wasn’t gonna beat it, he should’ve admitted what he did, been an ambassador to the minors, telling them what gambling does to their career(tarnishes it for life) then, I personally believe he’d been reinstated by now and eligible for the HOF.
The Great Imposter So what?! Explain why betting on games as a manager should keep him out of the Hall of Fame. You seem to think it’s self-evident. It’s not.,It makes no sense. Joe Jackson belongs in the Hall, too. The Hall is for great players. They were great players. They belong there. He was punished when he was kicked out of professional baseball. But what’s gambling as a manager got to do with his greatness as a player? Nothing!
@@syourke3 I believe he should be in the HOF as a player, but since you asked to explain why gambling as a Manager should keep him out, I'll explain. Who's to say he always bet on his team to win... What if he bet on his team to lose? That'd be a problem...
What an injustice to baseball and the fans not to have Back in the game. And in the Hall of Fame. He has served his time out of the game. The fans of this great game Deserve to have in the Hall.
I grew up on the Big Red Machine . They came through San Diego many times and it was a pleasure to watch them. What a lineup to deal with for a pitcher. They rarely made a mistake and won me $200 from my boss when they swept the Yankees in 76. Thank You Cincinnati.
This is a good part of the Pete Rose Statue Ceremony because it has Reds announcer and Red players from 1960's, 1970's 1980's. 1990's and Reds players of today in dugout. Mostly it has the Fans. See, that is what smart aleck national cable sports media don't understand. Look at the hometown fans in this. These fans deserve this. Not everything ever in baseball happened in New York and Boston. OK, do you get that. The Fans of Cincinnati deserved this.
Absolutely. So many so-called small market teams have an amazing tradition and have had some of the greatest baseball players to ever play the game. Cincinnati is second to none. They happened to be priveleged with a team in the mid-seventies that will always be in the conversation of greatest teams of all time. Pete Rose was just someone you didnt want to see as an opponent. I believe if Johnny Bench hadn't been injured and had surgery after his MVP campaign that there is no telling what he may have accomplished and he still went on to be a hall of fame. He was never the same after that injury. He may have posted 500 home runs and won several more MVP awards had he avoided injury. Cincinnati definitely has a history worth celebrating and it's so important that each new generation of fans is taught about the greats of days gone by.
This shit makes me want to be a reds fan. That's how amazing Rose is. If he isnt in the hall by the time he dies I vow to never watch another (non Cardinals) baseball game for the rest of my life.
Z Y the greatest number 14. If he can pass cobb than he deserves to be in baseballs hall of fame for sure. Not just the Cincinnati Reds. I had the great pleasure of meeting him on April 8th in Virginia at the Dulles Expo Center. He really didnt talk much but i was number 77 in line so he was probally tired but he gladly signed my 1941 Reds hat and took a picture with me. He personally made the hat out to me. He wrote “Chris.. a great fan. Pete Rose” and smiled and shook my hand and that is something i will always be greatful to him for. He deserves to be in the MLB hall of fame. If the Reds can forgive him for his past then its time the MLB should too. I am and will always be a Pete Rose fan.
If the Nation polled the people on whether Pete should be in the H.O.F. It would be a landslide on the YES side. No doubt in my mind. You will get there Pete..The Best Ever...⚾️👍
I met Pete Rose in March of 2019 at a signing event in Ft Lauderdale and he was so gracious. I was like a kid in Disney World. I said to him that I was so glad that in the country that I was born in Latin America baseball was the King Sport and that's how I got to be a fan of The Reds because that's the first team I rooted for in 1976 when I was 8 years old. So then he asked me where I was born and I said Nicaragua and then he goes "Dennis Martinez!" He signed me a baseball, an 8×10 photo with the inscription to my name and then he added "A Great Fan" and another 8x10 photo taken of me and him which he didn't have to. I'll never forget that day.
I was there that day my grandfather won tickets in a bet at golf I was 5 whene we went I am older now not saying my age you can figure that out on your own we got really good seats
Pete Rose is one of the top 3 players ever in my book! I know some talk about him but that's ok. I remember 4192 some have forgotten that great moment. But Pete Rose I will always remember 🙂
This was in 2015. I was at the game the night before. The Reds honored all members of the Great 8: Pete Rose, Joe Morgan, George Foster, David Concepcion, Johnny Bench, Cesar Geronimo, Ken Griffey, Sr., and Tony Perez. The weather was really hot and sticky, and the 2015 Reds lost by a huge margin, but it was great to be there. I think the Reds also honored other members of the 1975 and 1976 clubs who were there. Joe Morgan was honored, but was unable to attend.
My God I want to visit this stadium and be a part of this team. I never saw Pete play at all but he is my favorite athlete of all time. Greatest attitude towards life ever, I would kill to be his son for one day to learn the greatest life lessons and attitude toward life. This man is inspirational.
TRK - You sound too young to have seen Pete Rose play in person.... but you would have enjoyed EVERY minute of watching him play baseball, every minute!
Ennis Whalen Oh man I just get chills and excitement watching highlights of him playing. I know baseball will never come across a man like this ever again. So elegant and so full of life amazing Guy.
Pete really loves the Reds. I was happy we got to see him play in Philly for 5 years. I loved reading about all those dives he took into 2nd base in the Philadelphia Daily News.
While everyone in Baseball will always associate Pete Rose with the Cincinnati Reds, I will always think of him more with Philadelphia because he was definitely The Key to the Phillies FIRST EVER WORLD SERIES CHAMPIONSHIP in 1980.
You're absolutely correct. When he went to Philadelphia, he turned them into a World Series contender immediately. I enjoy watching Pete during his days in Philly as much as any time in his career. He was simply awesome and that time in his career is often overlooked. What he did in Philadelphia proves beyond any question just how good he was and how VALUABLE he was to a baseball team. He is just a winner. Period. And his respect and desire for baseball and for winning was contagious.
hey Mr Rose if you never read this i will understand bless your heart for being who you are dont change anything for no man because you are the man.#1. to so many Reds fans me being one i should know.i watch you as a kid where your #on the inside of my hat,and Johnny#as well.because every time i watched a game there where two #i always wanted to see and you was #one two me .thanks for the memories#14
I agree with all the positive comments made about this great hitter. I've made more mistakes than I care to remember. Who hasn't made mistakes in life, we all have, but, some are so full of pride, they would never admit to it.. He deserves to be in The Hall of Fame in Cooperstown. If Ty Cobb is there, so should Pete Rose. He has my vote with admiration, just to add, I've been a Cincinnati Reds fan since 1959 and the same goes for the Boston Red Sox. In the crunch, head to head, I take Cincinnati.
Pirates fan here. Oh how great are the Reds vs Pirates confrontations, the rivalry and Pete Rose made that happen with his courageos play to win. A rival who deserve respect. Put Pete Rose in the HOF. You blew it with Ron Santo and wasn't inducted in life. Don't make the same mistake with Pete.
Daveyboy _ He’s paid first his mistakes 20 times and then some. This shouldn’t be a cat and mouse game. He didn’t take PED’s, he bet. It’s different. Put him in the hall, and things will be good for all
@@rxyzer7688 yep u said it - he bet- which is worse . Why would i or anyone pay to see a baseball game when the outcome is already decided because the mngr already bet on the outcome ? Would u do want to do that ?
Thanks Cinncy for lending Pete to us for five years. Philly would have never won their first World Series in 97 years without him in 1980. The next to last out in the final Game Six vs. The Royals was pure Rose.
It’s time to put Pete Rose into the Hall of Fame. Can we petition the veterans committee to get him in the ballot to see how they would vote. The Hall of Fame is not even associated with MLB, it is a museum about all of baseball. Growing up, he was the best player to watch. I remember getting the paper every day to read the box score the closer he got to Cobb. Great speech Pete.
I'm a fifty year old Red Sox fan who grew up watching Pete Rose play baseball harder than anyone else. His numbers are so incredible they defy belief and logic, yet he remains out of the H.O.F. If Ty Cobb can get into the H. O.F. , why can't Pete?
It’s funny how when people go to ask Johnny Bench for an interview, the first thing that comes up is Pete Rose and the Hall of Fame, not so much on Bench’s career
I was born in 1968 and started collecting BB cards and following BB at age 5 or maybe even a little before that. I was a Jr Ranger living in Plano Tx outside of Dallas from 1975 to 1978, but the Reds were my favorite team by far. My best friend was 2 yrs older and his brother about 5 yrs older, and I did everything with their family. Even after moving to So CA I would go back every summer. They were a major sports family and would go to see Earl Campbell and Johnny Lam Jones at the Cottom Bowl etc, and in 1976 they went to see the Reds play the Astros in Houston and they stayed at the Marriot where the Reds were staying and got most of their autographs. I was damn jealous! 1976 was also my 1st yr in little league, and another friend of mines mom took us to see the Bad News Bears, and it's funny because I saw that movie recently for the first time since then and aside from the kids drinking beer in the dugout the movie is not that far fetched, and anyone who grew up playing football and baseball in the 70s would probably agree. There was NOT a lot of political correctness going on then and you could get your butt chewed by a coach or even another parent, and it didn't take much, but as much as that sucked at times I would take that over growing up in this candy assed politically correct marsh mellow world we live in today!
Great speech but kind of bothered me that he acknowledged 6 of his great 8 counterparts and didn't mention the great center fielder with a cannon of an arm, Cesar Geronimo.
Yes, put Pete Rose in the hall of fame, and #14 deserves to be in the hall, and all the time I go to Williamstown Wv To Parkersburg Wv I reflect on Pete Rose because his number was 14, and Rt 14 runs from Parkersburg to Williamstown and forks of the right at Williamstown while you turn left to go Marietta via the Williamstown Wv. BRIDGE.
Pete Rose made a mistake betting on baseball, no question. But he has paid the price more than enough. It's time for Pete to be in the Hall of Fame. He played the game harder than anyone. He's the all time MLB Hits Leader and he more than earned his place with baseballs greatest. I'm a life long Yankees fan, over 60 years, and It is time for Pete ! ⚾️⚾️⚾️🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Pete should refuse if the hall ever tries to have him come in. He does not need a bust in the hall, he has a bust in the heats of all of the tristate, as a kid playing baseball in the 90's I used to run like a deer. My coach said you remind me of Charlie hustle. As a young kid I asked my dad a Pittsburgh native and pirates fan what that meant he said son it is about the greatest complement you can receive as a baseball player. Like I said no need to be in a building this guy is in our hearts.
At age 75 and watching 70 years of tremendous memories , i have given up on MLB not baseball I havent seen anything that wants me to renew my contract Perhaps put Pete Rose back where he belongs , renew my trust in a game with honesty , and make the players earn their right to be involved in who what they represent , Pete Rose made mistakes and has been punished enough
If there's anyone else than conjures as much emotion still to this day in the game of baseball? Please, for fuck's sake, put this man in the HOF before his time on Earth is up!!
6:07 well considering that they’re first in their division, got a record of 50-41, and they got the best player in the League with Elly De La Cruz, I can quite confidently say that the Reds may have a phenomenal season!!!! You were right, Rose. You were right.
