Peter Hitchens: ‘I have never seen a war where there has been so little effort to end it’ 

Should the UK be doing more to try and get peace in Ukraine?

As long as the cash registers are still ringing there will be no urge to even begin to end this war.

It’s my jet I paid for it and the answer is no! I hope the other people who paid for these jets agree with me!

'Far right' is the latest throw about name calling exercise at anyone not agreeing with the establishment. Just like 'covidiot' , 'anti vaxxer', 'TERF', etc. Sooooo boring 😴.

War means more money for the rich and powerful...A no brainer really.... Tony cuenca

'We should focus on our own defense.' The English Channel is undefended and the result is clear.

Ask Boris why the peace treaty was not signed!

The plan is for it not to end anytime soon

There will only be an end when it’s negotiated. There is no one even attempting this. Why?

Where are the millions who marched against the Gulf War? Where are the Peace Not War/CND people who used to stand in our town centres? Where are the people who campaign against the UK sale of military equipment to other countries? Where are the people who protested at American bases in the UK?

When I stick up for my country I am defined as right wing , when I don't believe what Boris and Zelensky are telling us I am all of a sudden left wing and should go and live Russia?.

Almost like 'they' never want it to end. 🤔

Ukraine have already got more equipment than our troops have

We should not be sending planes to Ukraine.. we should be looking after our own border's..

Peter is right, now is the time to negotiate for peace, if it goes any further I think we’re all in trouble!

After more than 70 years we have failed to review the purpose (if there is one) of our allegiance to American foreign policy. It is time we did so, the world order is obviously shifting.

Hahaha, as you get older the number of things you're not allowed to do is not much greater than the things you cannot do. -Hitchens

The Ukraine war is really shocking - its got a the feel of a Vietnam war in Europe, except that we are fighting a nuclear armed power. What is worse is that the EU is supposed to stand up for Europe, rather has acted as a door mat for US interests.

The U.K. is sliding down into miserable irrelevance. What was once a reasonable country to live in, is now the most awful cold war U.S.S.R. distopia.

It's all about money with America nothing else

walking with my wife in the Peak District today...walked pass 2 women....obviously said " morning ladies " my wife said " what if they don't want you to say that ?"...I answered " I'm 58 years old...there ladies , and I'm polite

First of all ,I'm English and proud of my heritage . And because I said a shortened name for a person from another country of origin ,for grooming young WHITE girls and abused his status as a councillor .I've got to appear in court .The other criminal offence was apparently urging far right to take weapons and paint to attack CARE 4 CALAIS ,being as my original text was ,to take these things to protect themselves from the brutal Territorial Support Group . Not to assault C4 Calais although my personal opinion is that this charity is complicit in people smuggling as well as the gangs operating in Europe. You can't be A patriot in England , the system we find ourselves in today is that the establishment seem to Erasing thoughts of the English .And don't forget ENGLAND is still a country at the moment .

All about American interests - removing Europe’s cheap energy supplier so the can sell their LNG to Europe at 4/5 times the price.

The whole Judicial system needs to be overhauled. Prevent was never a good idea, from the start it was problematic in its system of dealing with terrorists or those associated with terrorism.

These two gentlemen are a breath of fresh air ! Peter has a wealth of knowledge ! A privilege listening to this man

The UK doesn't have any 'jets' to send!

Peter Hitchin. This is all the new way of our world now. There is no room now for goodness and kindness in unusual circumstances

Where is the international statesman who is sensible enough and courageous enough to want to try to negotiate an end to the Ukraine/Russian war?

I dont agree with giving ,jets to ,Ukraine we have ,already helped with tanks and I think Zelensky coming over and asking for more help is taking liberties with our good nature

Peter H says what no one else does. Yes why are we not talking about ending war Ukraine ! 🙏

The UK needsto get out of involvement in the Ukraine war

Peter Hitchens has a great outlook for his foreign policy.

Void the act of union and return England to the English Constitution.

British defence is at an all time low ..to the point we need every bit of equipment we have….no equipment should be sent without replacing our depleted RESORCES Uk first 🇬🇧🇬🇧👍🇬🇧👍

Definitely not we’ve given them enough how can our government keep giving to other countries when we can’t help our own people.

If Peter Hitchens was PM we would be in a lot better place

Top geezer Hitchens!

Peter, could it be that it suits a certain section of society to let the Ukraine war carry on longer than was necessary. That way the world leaders, possibly even member of the WEF could use the results of this war, higher fuel costs, rare earth materials and food shortages. It would not surprise me that the powers that be, would so dispassionate to allow such an appalling loss of life on both sides, in order to expedite their vision of 'a great reset'. The powers that be, should be ashamed.

The rich and powerful are also, almost by definition, experts in human psychology. They gave us toys and distractions and we bought it all. We don't have people who march for anything any longer. Too busy with a phone jammed in our faces searching for adoration and products.

I’ve never seen a war with so little tv footage. On the other hand there’s been a balloon or two floating around and we’ve seen those.

There is a Rage against the war event in Washington DC on the 19th February. George Galloway has a anti war, anti NATO event planned for the 25th February in London.

The arms manufacturers don't want the war to end.

Thank you for having an actual conversation and letting Peter speak unlike a certain member of your team.

Can someone please explain to me why Russia HAS to be our enemy?

We needent wonder what would happen ,. We just need to look at Dover invasion over the last two summer,s, where we did nothing to stop .

Absolutely Not !

Lots of vested interest in keeping this war going.

Its not a “war”. Its WEF theatre….

NO WE SHOULD NOT SEND JETS TO ZELENSKY....

We should be sending jets to the English channel. 🤔

And so little parliamentary debate about measures. Sunak spaffs money and resources we havent got and no one in parliament queries this insane response to a foreign war that is nothing to do with us. Perhaps he will be happy when he gets WW3.

Perfectly put

I believe that on the list of extremist terrorist groups in Europe, after Islamic terrorism, comes left-wing extremism. Right-wing extremism is/was listed around 4th on the list, after various separatist groups, last time I checked. Odd though isn’t it, that we never, ever hear about left wing terrorists/extremism on any level, yet the narrative about the existence and threat of right-wing extremism, is pushed from so many quarters. I can’t even count the amount of TV series and films I’ve watched, that end up revolving around this relative non-issue. But, wasn’t it Goebbels that said, "repeat a lie often enough, and it becomes truth"?

It has never been Russia v Ukraine. Wake up

It’s like we want the war to last as long as possible 🤔

NO more WAR!

Jacob Rees Mogg,Melanie Phillips,Rod Liddle and Douglas Murray are four of our most articulate,intelligent personalities,I highly regard them ! That must make me deplorably ‘far right’ according to the far left ,I assume !

Western weapons cannot eliminate Russia's strategic dominance in Ukraine, which is why negotiations and a peace deal is the only way out of this horror for the Ukranian people..... The problem with Nato military support for Ukraine is that while it might give Ukraine a localised tactical victory here or there it doesnt make a dent on Russia's unassailable strategic advantage over its neighbour. This essentially means Russia in Ukraine has an 'escalatory dominance Ukraine can never hope to achieve, a strategic supremacy that all the tanks and missiles in western inventories simply cant eliminate and for a very simple reason. Russian tanks and missiles can attack anywhere in Ukraine, at will. Ukranian tanks and missiles cant openly attack an inch of Russia. Russia attacking Ukrainian soil cant start a world war. Ukraine attacking Russian soil can. This means regardless of how advanced the weapon systems the US sends the Ukranian army the scope to unleash their full power is severely constrained. Russia on the other hand suffers no such limitations as to the punishment it can inflict on Ukraine Put in another way if Ukraine launches a missile attack on Moscow that destroys Vladimir Putin and the entire Russian government, the consequences are - we are in World War 3 territory. On the other hand, If Vladimir Putin orders a missile strike on Kiev that kills Zelensky, the consequences are - Nato will call a press conference! And possibly tighten a few sanctions making it more difficult for Russian housewives to get hold of their favourite gucci hand bags. On the battlefield itself strategic weakness detracts from tactical advantage. Whats the point having the best tanks if they cant cross the Russian border to destroy the logistical systems and arteries that enable the Russian armies occupation of the Donbas. Where is the sense in having advanced F -16 fighters if they can be shot down by Russian air defences based in Russian territory which the F-16s are prevented from attacking. A constraint Russan jets dont face in attacking Ukraine. There is no example in millitary history where tactical acumen has ever overidden a wholly unfavourable strategic situation similar to the one Ukraine currently faces How can the 300,000 Russian troops currently occupying eastern Ukraine be pushed out when the strategic situation prevents Ukraine from attacking their supply bases, logistical centres and command posts which are situated beyond their strategic reach in Russia. If the allies had not been able to bomb, at will, the entire breadth of Germany during the second world war, destroying bridges, dams, railway hubs, supply bases and the entirety of the conplex network of production and supply nodes and routes that make modern war possible, the Normandy invasion would have ended up at the bottom of the English channel.Ukraine has not got the ability, the strategic depth to do to Russia, what Russia is doing to Ukraine. This means all it can do is give its assailant a bloody nose, which might be enough if Russia did not see this struggle as exustential. Unfortunately for Ukraine they do. Which means defeat for the Kremlin is not an option To win a war you need more than weapons. You need a strategy. Supplying weapons regardless of how advanced is not a strategy. The west currently has no serious strategy in Ukraine, a critical weakness being concealed by Churchillian bluster and endless weapons supplies from its dwindling stocks. The war has consumed the lives of hundreds of thousands of Ukranian soldiers lives as the Russians sit back to preserve their soldiers while using its overwhelming advantage in long range firepower to bleed the Ukranian army white. Russias strategic dominance has not been seriously affected by western support for a nation that cant match the blows of its enemies, so is forced to sacrifice its youth in a futile struggle that increasingly seems to be serving the geo political objectives of its backers, stress Russia and test new weapons rather than preserve the sovereignty of a country that has become little more than a pawn on the international chess board of power politics. A peace deal is the only way out of this horrific ordeal for the Ukranian people.

Great discussion. Peter Hitchens is always sensible.

Government: an organised institution of self serving egotists that creates problems that never existed and then, applies extremely expensive, protracted solutions that don't work.

It’s consuming the best bree ding stock on both sides. We’ve seen the playbook before.

Thanks

In the old days the socialists were out spoken but today it is the conservatives who are out spoken.

Common sense as usual my hero

Thank you, well said 👏🏻 👍

Give peace a chance

We all live in Clown 🤡 world

.. Like lockdown, the general public bought this story, without question

No we should be protecting our shores from being invaded.

hell no

Only man who actually knows what he’s talking about. Make him prime minister instead of one useless plonker after another that we have these days.

“This is not simply a matter of good and evil” - Hitchens referring to the war in Ukraine. He then goes on to vilify the Russian invasion. Which is it Mr Hitchens? In my opinion though, the evil is coming from the supposedly harmless comedian who is carrying himself with so much dignity, that you refer to. The government of Ukraine, by admission of the US State Department web site, is corrupt.

I don't agree with Hitchens on much but on this I do - the silence has been deafening when it comes to peace and diplomacy... the blood lust is strong.

The uk and nato must end all military support for ukraine that would leave zelensky no choice but to go to the negotiating table or sacrifice his people.

Zelensky must have spent about thirty bob of Ukraine’s money, so far.

This is not our fight 😤

War is too lucrative to give up . Its the biggest transfer of cash from the taxpayers to a few individuals who ownd and run the arms corporations. And the man on the street has to pay the bill , sometimes for generations to come.

The center ground is the interplay point between discussing the advantages and disadvantages of proposals. That way things are evolved and progressed. The converse is true - extreme positions don't progress, embed failures. The proponent puts forward the hypothesis. The sceptic shoots holes. The back and forward sorts out the problems.

Oh, no! I have read many Douglas Murray and Hitchens books. Both brothers. Should I be polishing up my jack boots?

Spring starts at the end of March. So much for being a know it all

Should UK send jets to Ukraine? No!

Hitchens: "We should achieve a peace agreement that will guarantee lasting peace in that region". HOW, Peter? HOW? Give us some details! How do we get such a peace? What should it contain? Come on, oh wise one, tell!

Thing about war, and no one seems to have learned this lesson from the history of violence is that it's a deeply ironic enterprise. You very rarely get what you expect. Additionally, has anyone thought about what exactly victory looks like? I've heard some people in Washington talk about wanting to get rid of Putin. Great. Whom do you think would replace him? Can you guarantee that they're better? In sum, we're careening full speed in the dark, and I pray that we don't trip into life ending catastrophe. I've gotta be honest. I don't think Ukrainian sovereignty is worth risking all organised life on this planet. There. I wrote it. Call me a white nationalist or homophobe or whatever other nonsense now...but that's what I think.

No,but I fear our involvement is inevitable.

We need to protect our own borders

Ah, Peter, the man whom states the bleeding obvious but, bizarrely, that no other twit dares to say.

The UK support for Ukraine is an exercise in bleeding Russia; politically, economically & militarily -- to include both material, as well as manpower. It's part of a game that has been in progress for hundreds of years. In fact, funding & support for our enemies in the middle-east has been coming from Russia and what you are seeing now is payback.

Uk needs alternative parties and politicians.

So true

Why does pudgy keep interrupting?

A whole country fights tooth and nail for regaining its territory..that is a lot of effort to end a war.

No! That’s a big emphatic No!

No no no no no and no!

Hitchens: England should have averted WW2 by surrended to Nazi Germany in 1939

During the 1930s, we did nothing to stop Hitler's march over Europe; instead, we stood by and did nothing as he conquered nation after nation. There was a death toll of 85 million people as a direct result of the lack of action taken to stop Hitler. Let's not make the same mistake twice, okay? The people of Ukraine deserve our assistance, and if providing them with jets is a prerequisite for that assistance, then we must provide them with jets so they can continue the fight.

NO . We've Got troubles of our own we are falling apart at the seams

I love how Peter says 'Morning.'

Its amazing and refreshing to hear two people talk in a manner that makes sense. I haven't a clue what's happening in the world right now but fuck me it's nice hearing some sanity.

No we shouldn’t send anything to Ukraine never mind aircraft

This interview was a real meeting of the mind