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Peter Hitchens: Why you should NOT vote Reform 

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Peter Hitchens on the ‘adult’ choice to vote Tory (even though he wants to destroy them) at UnHerd’s Alternative Hustings.
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@streglof
@streglof 2 месяца назад
Peters is afraid that voting Reform will draw votes away from the Tories. I believe voting for the Tories will draw away votes from Reform.
@jakep5442
@jakep5442 2 месяца назад
It’ll draw seats away from Labour also, Sunderland is just one example 👍🏻
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
Would you care to take a bet on how many seats Reform will get?
@Lothnar5070
@Lothnar5070 2 месяца назад
18 so far
@douglasgeddes5228
@douglasgeddes5228 2 месяца назад
I used to respect you Mr Hitchens, but asking us to vote for a failed Tory government when we know Labour are going to win any way because”better the devil you know”sentiment is crass. If you really want change from the binary choice, then voting Reform in large numbers is the only way to get it.
@latest3dsgames
@latest3dsgames 2 месяца назад
Probably 10 or less. I think everyone who is sane knows the first past the post system is completely outdated and it's exceptionally difficult to break through as a smaller / newer party. Works against the people as they think their vote does not count. Has to change​@@SmileyEmoji42
@brandonatchison4769
@brandonatchison4769 2 месяца назад
I'm sorry, but you don't get to bang on about how the Tory's need to be destroyed for years and then get upset when people actually try to do it. Also, Hitchen's in his usual condescension doesn't take any responsibility for this. He has influenced and inspired a lot of young people, who are now heading towards Reform and are trying to act out what he has been advocating for.
@paulpenfold2352
@paulpenfold2352 2 месяца назад
To be fair, he's also talked about zigging and zagging at election time.
@marklister5519
@marklister5519 2 месяца назад
I agree. He said labour and conservatives are like two corpses propping each other up. One of them has to be destroyed so something new can emerge. When it starts to happen he changes his mind. He is an odd fellow.
@Alex-mj5dv
@Alex-mj5dv 2 месяца назад
Agree to a point. But I can see why it bothers Hitchens (from his perspective), because he’s a traditional conservative. Reform and Farage are pretty neo-liberal Thatcherite (people wrongly assume she was conservative. She was not. At all. She happened to be in the Conservative Party) in quite a radical way. Radical change is the antithesis of Hitchens.
@danzolion8758
@danzolion8758 2 месяца назад
Absolutely, tories are dung so we should stick with dung nit very inspiring Peter
@ianinkster2261
@ianinkster2261 2 месяца назад
"'m sorry, but you don't get to bang on about how the Tory's need to be destroyed for years and then get upset when people actually try to do it." Yes he rightfully does. He's perfectly consistent. He still wants to destroy the Tories, but regards Starmer as a price worse than Brown was.
@baalrog666
@baalrog666 2 месяца назад
I'm not british but from what I've seen all these years with a tory government the UK still have the pride flags on police cars, the diversity quotas, getting rid of white men in the RAF, immigration is the highest it's ever been and so on... How were they any different from a labor government?
@Etcher
@Etcher 2 месяца назад
Great question and one I was pondering only this morning!
@robertholland7558
@robertholland7558 2 месяца назад
How? They are not. Just two cheeks of the same arse! Don’t let then shit on you!
@John-kc4cg
@John-kc4cg 2 месяца назад
They're different because Blair let in less people and was tougher on crime than our current lot. Labour is also actually led by someone British.
@taqiya3504
@taqiya3504 2 месяца назад
The Tories must be replaced by a patriotic party.
@zog97xy
@zog97xy 2 месяца назад
Not reform racists
@maccagrabme
@maccagrabme 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xy Reform only. All other parties are for mad hatters.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
Even in your wildest fantasies, you cannot believe that Reform will win a significant number of seats, and, when Labour win, you will have achieved nothing but increasinhg the time that Labour are in power
@SagaciousFrank
@SagaciousFrank 2 месяца назад
Unfortunately Reform UK are not patriotic.
@Disinterested-jg6pw
@Disinterested-jg6pw 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xy racists? what do you mean?
@PREPPER65
@PREPPER65 2 месяца назад
Me, my 93 year old Mum and her 100 year old friend have just voted REFORM via our postal votes!! We had no choice as no alternative trustworthy parties in Scotland! Convid opened my eyes as an ex SNP member!! #complicit 👵🏻👊👵🏻👊👵🏻👊🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@microfarming8583
@microfarming8583 2 месяца назад
Bravo Scottish family ❤💪🏾
@Woden-96
@Woden-96 2 месяца назад
✊🏻👌🏻👍🏻
@vincentlauria7857
@vincentlauria7857 2 месяца назад
Same. Already voted Reform 🇬🇧
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
Well done girls.
@roddymcniven8734
@roddymcniven8734 2 месяца назад
Good ghirl
@gregoneill990
@gregoneill990 2 месяца назад
A child would go on and on and on interminably, incessantly , ad nauseam about wanting to destroy the Tory Party and then when the opportunity to do so came along would then go 'I've changed my mind now'. That's what a child would do. An attention seeking child.
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 месяца назад
He also changed his mind on the Mystery Juice
@Ryan.90
@Ryan.90 2 месяца назад
​​@@jeffsimon9594That was pathetic, 'I don't want it, but I'm scared if I don't take it, I won't be able to travel' Few months later they lifted the travel restrictions anyway.... But even if they hadn't, you had doctors and nurses prepared to walk away from a career that took them years to build, But Peter was worried about his holiday plans...
@johnkeane1419
@johnkeane1419 2 месяца назад
He's a low IQ clown. Anyone can criticise all day, truly able people step up and do things.
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
Children are the exact ones voting for the Reform COMPANY (it's not even a real party). Hitchens has explained his position very well, he said he only wanted it destroyed after Major and before Cameron won. You should listen. he's telling you the truth. Reform cannot mathmatically win because they don't appeal to centrists (and the Tories are only in this mess because they appealed TOO MUCH to centrists). Moderate swing voters who would NEVER vote Reform are 33% of the country. That's why Reform are dead-on-arrival. Politics isn't a game. It's not a sport. Voting Reform IS VOTING FOR LABOUR, facts do not care about our feelings. Voting Reform - which means Labour - means REAL ethnic replacement immigration designed to reproduce, not the temporary one-off immigration that the Tories did to fix the NHS which has a unique sudden worker shortage due to brexit and covid. No one voted for lesser immigration at the expense of the NHS and care-sectors, or unis. Get out of the echo chamber, Most of the country don't even care about immigration.
@aanomad
@aanomad 2 месяца назад
People who woted tories shuold just vote Reform. Tory-party is finished. Period.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
What odds are you offering on that? because I'm pretty sure that Reform will win a handful of seats at most and you'll just be increasing the length of the Labour rule
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
@@SmileyEmoji42 Still, I'm voting with my heart this time, I'm voting Reform.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
@@sandyno1089 Keir Starmer thanks you for voting with your heart. Would you support a government that ignored reality and governed "with their heart"? If ever there was a time for favouring head over heart, an electioin is that time.
@keithcannon5168
@keithcannon5168 2 месяца назад
​@@SmileyEmoji42Starmer will hate facing Farage in the HOC. Farage will finish him.
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
@@SmileyEmoji42 My head says vote Reform too, and my body and soul also.
@Endtimescounterchurch
@Endtimescounterchurch 2 месяца назад
There's no party worth voting for except Reform. What's he on about? Tories and Labour are two cheeks of the same arse.
@benvids
@benvids 2 месяца назад
Not with Starmer in charge. Starmer’s government is an unknown and from the clues we have it will be worse for us than the Tories have been.
@user-fy9gz9yl7u
@user-fy9gz9yl7u 2 месяца назад
You just quoted George Galloway .... why not vote for his party?
@johnscott-kw3bf
@johnscott-kw3bf 2 месяца назад
You will see the difference after next Thursday.
@methanedirigible
@methanedirigible 2 месяца назад
And reform is the hole in the centre
@brianparsons9368
@brianparsons9368 2 месяца назад
Farage is a private educated city trader and millionaire. Same side of the same coin. Wake up
@Kerygmame
@Kerygmame 2 месяца назад
people are done with the Tories.
@LadyC6953
@LadyC6953 2 месяца назад
Definitely REFORM for me now.
@markkennedy5479
@markkennedy5479 2 месяца назад
Bravo! Children of the U.K., unite. The world will be a better place.
@judiththomas9995
@judiththomas9995 2 месяца назад
Reform may very well get the non-voters back to the ballot box. Plus take the Tory votes
@BreakBeatStu
@BreakBeatStu 2 месяца назад
And some of the Labour vote too! Labour are all about the airy fairy purple hair gang but have betrayed their traditional voters
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
The Tories gave us Brexit and contrary to the Remainer liars, Brexit is going really well. But all those hard-worked trade deals that the TORIES made - the real hard work that Farage couldn't care less about - are going to be thrown out under Starmer. And he will reverse Brexit, the only question is does he do it in his first year so he dodges political fallout, or does he slowly do it.
@Dunnlrs
@Dunnlrs 2 месяца назад
The Tories are finished. If they had any decency they would stand down and allow Reform to prevent a Liebour landslide.
@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob
@HDSPKSRecords-gi1ob 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform. A vote for Tories OR Labour will keep us heading towards disaster.
@jonathanj.7344
@jonathanj.7344 2 месяца назад
A vote for Tories or Labour is worse than a wasted vote. It is a vote to actively empower the enemy.
@billparry7058
@billparry7058 2 месяца назад
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein. Vote Reform 🇬🇧
@NiceLoki
@NiceLoki 2 месяца назад
Zero seats for the elites!
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
How are they elites? lol. All those TORIES who did the HARD WORK to make BREXIT work (from new trade deals to re-writing 100,000s of new regulations), they all have to lose their seats now? Why. They did nothing wrong. They did the REAL WORK whilst Farage just sat their making $$$ in America. Some people have no honour. The Tories will be happy to leave power, they make more money OUT OF POLITICS than in - maybe they think you deserve to CHOKE on Starmer lol. Voting Reform screws ALL OF US. Politics isn't a sport or game.
@coneyisland4568
@coneyisland4568 2 месяца назад
I find it impossible to take Peter seriously. I haven't forgotten how he made a big deal about not getting the jab... then got the jab. 🙄
@paulpenfold2352
@paulpenfold2352 2 месяца назад
He made a big deal about locking the economy down for the best part of two years while at the same time printing billions of pounds for something that was essentially end of life. Anti-jabbers and people who object to partygate are usually those that happily went along with it all, because they fancied a holiday or something, but they want something to feel some angst towards post-covid.
@goodgrief888
@goodgrief888 2 месяца назад
People are allowed to change their minds given new information. However, people with big platforms should be held to higher standards for public opinions that persuade large groups of individuals to follow suite.
@THEOBJECTIVEPERSPECTIVE
@THEOBJECTIVEPERSPECTIVE 2 месяца назад
@@goodgrief888 He didn't change his mind based on 'new information'. He wrote an entire article about taking the jab in The Mail On Sunday. He said he took the jab with 'a heavy heart' because he didn't want to be denied the right to travel.
@coneyisland4568
@coneyisland4568 2 месяца назад
@@goodgrief888 He didn't change his mind because of new information though. He simply wasn't prepared to be exluded from venues or travelling. He openly admitted that much at least.
@goodgrief888
@goodgrief888 2 месяца назад
@@coneyisland4568 Well at least he was honest about it. To be honest, I got the jab in order to be able to get on a plane and visit my terminally ill Mother. So I can’t really blame him for that. I also suffered an injury due to that decision. But I still don’t see how I could have made any other decision at the time given the circumstances. Maybe he had other choices, but I didn’t feel like I did.
@topcat1649
@topcat1649 2 месяца назад
Don't agree with Hitchens. Need to take the short term pain and vote Reform
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
I usually agree with Hitchens, but this time I think he's lost the plot. I'm voting Reform.
@buy.to.let.britain
@buy.to.let.britain 2 месяца назад
yes. a clear out is needed.
@tomwalters2529
@tomwalters2529 2 месяца назад
The "short term pain" is the way to a better political landscape long term. Its about time we had a decent opposition ready to hold MP's to account over their truly reckless and obviously corrupt and immoral policies.
@article10
@article10 2 месяца назад
Christopher was a better Hitchens imo
@Khayyam-vg9fw
@Khayyam-vg9fw 2 месяца назад
@@sandyno1089 Peter Hitchens was always an Establishment gatekeeper.
@kayoss2306
@kayoss2306 2 месяца назад
We can't just keep voting for the same two parties over and over. Nothing will ever change.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
How do you expect a minority party to change anything? Lib Dems had a go a at being the minority in a coalition and their members punished them for it. The size of swing that you are dreaming of cannot possibly happen
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 месяца назад
It's about being realistic. Reform has no regional heartland where it can win many constituent seats--like Lib, Lab, Con. It'll be lucky to win even *one* seat. A vote for Reform is a vote for Labour.
@SmileyEmoji42
@SmileyEmoji42 2 месяца назад
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 A vote for Reform is not a vote for Labour except if its a vote that might otherwise have had a realistic chance of getting an alternative MP elected. If your constituencycurrently has a Labour MP it is never going to swing to the right, Reform or otherwise. 1) Vote for any party that you dislike less than Labour if they have the most realistic chance of winning your constituency. 2) Vote with your heart if (1) does not apply - Your vote won't make an electoral difference but may hav e a miniscule influence on things going forwards. Note that 1 does not include voting Reform in a Conservative seat - This would, almost certainly, require a 100% conversion of Conservative to Reform voters, which is unrealistic.
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 месяца назад
​@@SmileyEmoji42Why would anybody vote for a party that they do not agree with? If there's no party where your vote would be applicable, then don't vote. Choosing to be at the mercy of a less evil government is stupid.
@Lee-ci9pb
@Lee-ci9pb 2 месяца назад
We’re short circuiting the BS Pete and voting in Reform … deal with it
@zog97xy
@zog97xy 2 месяца назад
Racists
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xy Why, because we don't like Labour or Conservative, nothing racist about that.
@SinisterTantru3
@SinisterTantru3 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xyI like being called that buzz word 😂
@joycejnn
@joycejnn 2 месяца назад
Reform UK will get a handful of seats , if lucky , and won’t change anything apart from ensuring Labour get a big majority . They will not be the opposition and will have minimal to zero impact on large Labour government Nigel will get bored and will be off like a shot if Trump gets in and he can secure a position with him . We could have tried to stop Labour by trying to get a Conservative minority or a Conservative hung parliament . Voting Reform UK to punish the Conservatives is cutting of your nose to spite your face !
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
We're all going to have to deal with your angry, emotional choice to vote reform when Labour get their super majority and begin REAL ethnic replacement immigration which never happened under the Tories (you were tricked by Farage). Every Labour MP is going to do real harm to their local areas, especially with illegal migrants who will INCREASE under Labour.
@BodyGuardOfLies1
@BodyGuardOfLies1 2 месяца назад
Not a single argument against voting Reform.
@sanchez501
@sanchez501 2 месяца назад
He did. You just don't agree and that's ok.
@MrPerfectpizza
@MrPerfectpizza 2 месяца назад
Don’t waste your vote on the Tories!
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
Don't waste your vote on Labour either, vote with the landslide, vote Reform.
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 месяца назад
Nonsense. Reform will at best only take a 12% share of the vote, translating into one seat if it's lucky. A vote for Reform is a vote for a Labour government.
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
This just isn't true, mate. Reform is a Hard Right party (I am personally Hard Right myself). That is why disgruntled Tories are voting for them as well as 100,000s of anti-immigrant voters, right? The Tory party contains three wings: Centre-Right, Right-Wing, Hard Right. Most of the Hard Right have gone to Reform according to polling data. In the UK right-wing voters are outnumbered by left-wing voters: that's why the Left can afford to split the vote and still win landslides. The RIGHT on the other hand cannot win an election unless they all UNITE. And even then - they need the UK's swing voters mostly voting for them: they vote lib-dem//labour/conservative so are MODERATES, CENTRISTS and obv. wouldn't touch Reform. Moderate floating voters are 33% of the country. The entire reason the Tories moved too much to the centre is to keep those moderate voters. They went too far. And have learnt their lesson now. BUT only the Tory party can unite ALL the above. Reform will never get most of the right wing vote or the centrists. Reform are a read-on-arrival party. So Voting Reform is voting for Labour. That's the cold reality. People need to get out of their echo chamber. Most of the country just DON'T CARE about immigration - I disagree with them, but that's the reality of the polling.
@pipedreamtv9697
@pipedreamtv9697 2 месяца назад
Voting Conservative is a vote for Labour
@Woden-96
@Woden-96 2 месяца назад
And a vote for labour is a vote for Islam this is why people our voting reform uk enough is enough
@vincentlauria7857
@vincentlauria7857 2 месяца назад
Reform 🇬🇧
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
A vote for Reform is a vote for Reform.
@secondchance6603
@secondchance6603 2 месяца назад
@@Woden-96 Arabic Definition: HIDJAR: No Muslim can occupy a political position in any non-Islamic govt unless it is to secretly sabotage, subvert and infiltrate with other Muslims until Muslims are in the majority.
@terenceretter5049
@terenceretter5049 2 месяца назад
Research the current views and opinions, trends in your own constituency - who is more likely/possible to win- if the Conservatives, particularly if an incumbent has a chance of winning then consider Peter's advice. In this situation a vote for Reform would be assisting Labour.
@Endtimescounterchurch
@Endtimescounterchurch 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform. Build a counter- revolutionary movement. Take the country back.
@OUTBOUND184
@OUTBOUND184 2 месяца назад
He's determined to be a contrarian, whatever it takes.
@goodgrief888
@goodgrief888 2 месяца назад
The Catty Hitchens brothers. Contrarian for the sake of being above the normies.
@ianinkster2261
@ianinkster2261 2 месяца назад
No, he's maintained a steady position since 2003.
@OUTBOUND184
@OUTBOUND184 2 месяца назад
@@ianinkster2261 Lol
@Puffball-ll1ly
@Puffball-ll1ly 2 месяца назад
Didn't he write a book about the need for the Tory party to die?
@mind76
@mind76 2 месяца назад
People are actually going to do to the Tory in 2024 what he said should be done about them in 2010 (and more).
@ianinkster2261
@ianinkster2261 2 месяца назад
Yes, and he's never changed his position. Totally consistent.
@Ryan.90
@Ryan.90 2 месяца назад
Yeah but I'm starting to think this is Peter Hitchens all over, I reckon if he dropped his morning toast and it landed butter side up on the floor he'd flip it over anyway. Pathological malcontent.
@JonVoid37
@JonVoid37 2 месяца назад
He never meant it. He's now shown his true colours when it may actually happen.
@Saccard
@Saccard 2 месяца назад
​@@mind76 I was thinking of that as well. Hopefully the Tories come third or fourth and can't even form an opposition.
@action1976
@action1976 2 месяца назад
I'm voting Reform UK 🇬🇧
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
Me too.
@anglodoomer5995
@anglodoomer5995 2 месяца назад
Voting for anyone but the Tories is the only way Tories will win zero seats
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
ZERO SEATS? So all those TORIES who did the HARD GRAFT to make BREXIT work (from new trade deals to re-writing 100,000s of new regulations), they all have to lose their seats now? Why. They did nothing wrong. They did the REAL WORK whilst Farage just sat their making $$$ in America. Some people have no honour. Englishmen don’t attack their own.
@edwardmiller3859
@edwardmiller3859 2 месяца назад
I will be voting Reform, we have nothing to lose
@zog97xy
@zog97xy 2 месяца назад
Racists
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xy Why, for disliking the Tories and labour🤣🤣🤣🤣
@jeffsimon9594
@jeffsimon9594 2 месяца назад
@@zog97xy Your chip needs replacing
@ash-hy4tf
@ash-hy4tf 2 месяца назад
​@@zog97xypeodphile
@msbecks7004
@msbecks7004 2 месяца назад
Everyone else in the country is wrong, Peter is right 😂
@bobrail733
@bobrail733 2 месяца назад
Full of HIMSELF vote REFORM and F*CK HIM 🐂💩🐂💩
@japfourme381
@japfourme381 2 месяца назад
Still voting REFORM! You will not dissuade us from voting for them, try as hard as you like!!
@joycejnn
@joycejnn 2 месяца назад
Well good luck with the large majority Labour government you have enabled …plonker
@scepteredisle
@scepteredisle 2 месяца назад
That's exactly the way a child thinks. Well done. Are all creey reform voters like this?
@scottmacwhinnie4076
@scottmacwhinnie4076 2 месяца назад
unfortunately the Tories are indistinguishable from Labour and would not even be a meaningful opposition
@unclem7816
@unclem7816 2 месяца назад
Respect his view but he's very wrong. Vote reform. Tories stand down.
@jamesart6568
@jamesart6568 2 месяца назад
he aint wrong about Labour.
@peterwatson3944
@peterwatson3944 2 месяца назад
Let all tories stand down and let Reform win.
@nehakulkarni5009
@nehakulkarni5009 2 месяца назад
I disagree....Reform all the way!
@susanfletcher6498
@susanfletcher6498 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform they have told us what they are going to do
@Rick70567
@Rick70567 2 месяца назад
please save us and vote Reform !
@ajax201000
@ajax201000 2 месяца назад
Hes losing it
@CumbriaPreaching
@CumbriaPreaching 2 месяца назад
It must be side effects of the jab.😂
@sandyno1089
@sandyno1089 2 месяца назад
@@CumbriaPreaching 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 месяца назад
But he is "the official biographer of Britain's demise" and "has been telling people this thing for the past 20 years". 😉😉🤣🤣
@maxcream6726
@maxcream6726 2 месяца назад
VOTE REFORM
@robturvey9156
@robturvey9156 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform if only to irritate the insufferably vain Hitchens.
@RSD763
@RSD763 2 месяца назад
I agree, he is pompous and vastly overrated.
@user-fy9gz9yl7u
@user-fy9gz9yl7u 2 месяца назад
Daft reason.
@Happy-go-luckyno
@Happy-go-luckyno 2 месяца назад
Reform 🇬🇧
@Truthisnow101
@Truthisnow101 2 месяца назад
Vote reform, not the parties that are loyal to the WEF
@Saintash1964
@Saintash1964 2 месяца назад
There is no other alternative for ordinary working class people.
@LordFlashheart1
@LordFlashheart1 2 месяца назад
VOTE REFORM FOR A REVOLUTION. THE TIME IS NOW.
@paulwilliams5013
@paulwilliams5013 2 месяца назад
... they kept going on about 'The Great Reset'..so let's ..king well give them one!
@gillianslater9227
@gillianslater9227 2 месяца назад
TORYS ARE FINISHED, WE KNOW IT HE KNOWS IT. VOTE REFORM.100%.!!
@epictetusghost1369
@epictetusghost1369 2 месяца назад
Zero seats
@JamesSmith-cm7sg
@JamesSmith-cm7sg 2 месяца назад
18 seats, second largest vote
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333
@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 2 месяца назад
​@@JamesSmith-cm7sgNonsense. It's not the amount of votes but parliamentary seats that count. Even the Lib Dems will take more seats than Reform because Liberal Heartlands have multiple constituent seats.
@tomnicholson2115
@tomnicholson2115 2 месяца назад
Thank you Peter, so Reform it is 👍 ..... and now I know im a 68 year old child, so be it!
@platonkarataev550
@platonkarataev550 2 месяца назад
Peter helped clinch it for me, Reform all the way, from a 58 year old child !
@mayormccheese6171
@mayormccheese6171 2 месяца назад
I usually agree with Hitchens, but he's like my dad. He'd rather a problem remain than be solved because of all the joy he gets from whinging about it.
@MrSilverbirch
@MrSilverbirch 2 месяца назад
haha,thats not far off the truth.Ive often thought Ive seen a glint in his eye when talking about the demise of this and that
@DIBBY40
@DIBBY40 2 месяца назад
I just don't understand Peter. Does he really want another 5 years of Tory just to keep Labour out? And then in 5 years Labour win anyway? They are terrible. Labour are terrible. Aaarrrggghh, What a mess! Reform deserve a chance. I will vote for them.
@microfarming8583
@microfarming8583 2 месяца назад
I'm voting Reform 🇬🇧 🚀 💥 💪🏾
@stephenharfield781
@stephenharfield781 2 месяца назад
Please don’t listen to him, vote Reform!
@matttroughton
@matttroughton 2 месяца назад
Sometimes things need to get worse before they get better. Tories delunda est
@vincentlauria7857
@vincentlauria7857 2 месяца назад
Vote REFORM 🇬🇧
@Elizabeth-jd3mn
@Elizabeth-jd3mn 2 месяца назад
Theres nowhere else to go. I like their policies, I don't agree with Labour or the Tories to vote for either.
@ahmadjuwayni6256
@ahmadjuwayni6256 2 месяца назад
Funny it's called Unheard because no one is listening to Hitchens and his forever ranting !
@j94c
@j94c 2 месяца назад
14 years of declining living standards under the Tories but somehow its a labour government we should be afraid of?
@gdfggggg
@gdfggggg 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform. Labour or Tory will screw the country.
@ronharris7335
@ronharris7335 2 месяца назад
Vote REFORM.
@tonywalker8250
@tonywalker8250 2 месяца назад
A Labour government every so often is a good thing as it serves to remind people how s**t they are.
@burtingtune
@burtingtune 2 месяца назад
Hitchens could argue that changing circumstances mean a changed approach but he seems to think that if the Tories win and keep Labour out of office that this isn´t merely kicking the can down the road. If the Tories were re-elected, they would continue the Blair project admittedly at a slower rate than Labour, but Labour would eventually come to power and any alternative conservative voice, which Reform represent, although not perfect, would be finished. He also contradicts himself saying vote for who you think best, but vote tactically. Finally, and this is the one where I think he needs taking to task on, for the last 5 years he has been saying he no longer tries to shape events but merely records them as an obituarist: if this is so, butt out!
@apz202
@apz202 2 месяца назад
tories and labour are two cheeks of the same arse.
@darkokolundzija9050
@darkokolundzija9050 2 месяца назад
"Voting is not civic duty" 1.26..... Nice one Peter. Keep status quo, or better yet let hot heads on left and right vote while rest of us should shrug shoulders and keep on saying oh well.
@alfredpetrie7920
@alfredpetrie7920 2 месяца назад
He has all the answers!!!Another greatest Prime Minister never had!!He will never have to make a decision
@AthelstanEngland
@AthelstanEngland 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform. Some seats hopefully this time but importantly building vote share for next. This guy ain't his brother.
@AndySmith-qf2wd
@AndySmith-qf2wd 2 месяца назад
Hang on a minute. Why do they keep saying that a vote for reform is a vote for Labour? The fact is, a vote for Labour is a vote for Labour. The answer is not vote Tory, the answer is not don’t vote reform, the answer is simple - don’t vote Labour!
@msbecks7004
@msbecks7004 2 месяца назад
Peter your argument is don’t vote labour, not to vote for Tory. Too late, we want change.
@1977ajax
@1977ajax 2 месяца назад
What the UK needs is a massive change if it is not to go under badly, as it continues to do under the Tories and will do even quicker under Labour. If Reform stand any chance of bringing that change about, that's where you have to vote, and every single vote for them increases the chance of the desperately needed change.
@vulkanofnocturne
@vulkanofnocturne 2 месяца назад
Michael Moore did a similar thing at the 2016 election. He spent years of his career talking about corrupt politicians like the Clintons, but when it was time to vote who did he endorse?
@gavwan
@gavwan 2 месяца назад
If Labour are truly going to walk it then the Conservatives need to be told at the voting booth that it is the right side of their party they have lost, not the innaffective Labour-lite. Hold your nose, vote Reform and hope for a credible right wing party in 5 years.
@jessebongo46
@jessebongo46 2 месяца назад
Don't matter one iota which group of puppets is in office they don't make the decisions.
@hiramhackenbacker9096
@hiramhackenbacker9096 2 месяца назад
Almost no Labour member thinks Starmer is more left wing than Corbyn and many hate him for it. Hitchins is wrong.
@tractorshed985
@tractorshed985 2 месяца назад
The government treats me like a child. They constantly tell me what to say, how to think and how to behave. I will therefore be voting like a child.
@tomnicholson2115
@tomnicholson2115 2 месяца назад
Good for you! I will join you in the playground and be voting the same way!
@davidwing288
@davidwing288 2 месяца назад
Is this the guy that had a infantile meltdown on Alex O'Connor?
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 месяца назад
Yes. "He actively dislikes you!" 😉😉
@rock3786
@rock3786 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform this country is in a mess.
@johncatto5019
@johncatto5019 2 месяца назад
I agree that we most certainly do NOT want Labour in government, but we also have to make our opposition to the status quo very clear. We do not want either Labour or Tory's in power and there are two ways to do this, don't vote at all or vote Reform.
@deborahhobbins7131
@deborahhobbins7131 2 месяца назад
FORGET VICTOR MELDREWS CRYSTAL BALL VOTE REFORM!
@Janece-ft2mx
@Janece-ft2mx 2 месяца назад
Bore off Pete. Reform Reform Reform 🇬🇧
@ajd36
@ajd36 2 месяца назад
Absolute tripe. If I take his advice and don't vote for Reform, I just deprive Reform of a vote they would have otherwise had. How does that stop Labour???
@onthemove301
@onthemove301 2 месяца назад
For years Hitchens has been saying Britain is going to the dogs. Problem is, he doesn't have a constructive suggestion(s) to stop it. Farage may not be perfect, nobody is, but at least he might make the so-called Conservative Party remember its roots.
@mariaridler1831
@mariaridler1831 2 месяца назад
I’m voting Reform. This lady’s not for turning 💪
@mmins274
@mmins274 2 месяца назад
Anyone who votes Tories may aswell not vote or.... vote reform
@royspilsbury
@royspilsbury 2 месяца назад
Get them both gone Vote Reform uk
@georgethepatriot2785
@georgethepatriot2785 2 месяца назад
We were never asked nor voted for what has been done to our once wonderful country. Our Politicians whose side are they on? Reform is the answer even the young are working that out
@manuellayburr382
@manuellayburr382 2 месяца назад
Vote Reform! I would but unfortunately no-one is standing in my area.
@Thespian-wp6xq
@Thespian-wp6xq 2 месяца назад
Sorry Peter. You make perfectly valid points but I've had a belly full of the Liblabcon establishment. We really don't have anything left to lose.
@deadinthebed963
@deadinthebed963 2 месяца назад
Rod Liddle wouldn't look out of place in a swamp in the princess bride
@brianwest7344
@brianwest7344 2 месяца назад
no matter what lies you spread I'm still voting reform
@tcichris
@tcichris 2 месяца назад
Peter your eloquence has resulted in an almost 100% support for Reform in the comments.
@jasonuren3479
@jasonuren3479 2 месяца назад
If they told you what they were gonna do you would never vote for them. Never a truer word. 👍
@dna9838
@dna9838 2 месяца назад
Applies wayyyyyyy more to reform, and you know it, or should sense it
@BrianPaterson-f3i
@BrianPaterson-f3i 2 месяца назад
Vote to save the uk vote reform !
@dna9838
@dna9838 2 месяца назад
@@BrianPaterson-f3i ironic that. If reform get in, one of the first things to happen will be Scottish separation. It would be the final straw.
@nigelcheeseman3369
@nigelcheeseman3369 2 месяца назад
Delighted to see the right fighting itself for a change. Cheers fellas.
@alexantor7814
@alexantor7814 2 месяца назад
Vote reform stop thinking short term yes we will have to suffer labour for 5 years but come 2029 reform will be ready
@stevemcgarrett24
@stevemcgarrett24 2 месяца назад
I voted reform party yesterday, via my postal vote.
@martintompkins5481
@martintompkins5481 2 месяца назад
Insult people by calling them children and foolish. Getting worried Peter?
@piggy1600cvh
@piggy1600cvh 2 месяца назад
His argument is more around not voting for Labour, i dont hear a reason not to vote reform,
@WeVotedLeaveEU
@WeVotedLeaveEU 2 месяца назад
Well Peter, this man is voting REFORM.
@RD-000
@RD-000 2 месяца назад
Where did the full video of the debate go? "Alternative Election Hustings"
@alanharper6487
@alanharper6487 2 месяца назад
Hitchens will no doubt be looking for a "nice little earner" from Channel 4?
@Tonymason762
@Tonymason762 2 месяца назад
This election isn’t just about voting for reform, it’s about putting a clear message across to any incumbent government. If you wantonly and recklessly ignore the will of the people who elected you, the public can and in some cases will destroy you. This is, I believe, the purest form of democracy.
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat
@alphabetaxenonzzzcat 2 месяца назад
Peter's track record :- 1990s and 2000s, writing in his column for the Mail on Sunday about how bad the Maastricht and the Lisbon treaty were for the UK, and complaining about German expansionism in the EU. Does a documentary for BBC 4 called "This Sceptred Isle" detailing Britain's relationship with the EU. Then come Brexit referendum decides to abstain. Then after the result calls for "the Norway option". One of the few mainstream journalists to oppose the harmful lockdowns, and debates both Mike Graham and Dan Hodges on Talk Radio about them. Rightly said that during the 1967 Hong Kong Flu outbreak that no lockdown was used. Then takes a highly experimental "treatment" to "be able to travel to see family members", and says "people should just accept these types of restrictions from now on". I'll add as well that he was a foreign correspondent in the former Soviet Union and wrote specifically about the nature of tyranny under that regime, and yet he couldn't see it coming worldwide when the C situation came to the fore. Voiced his opinion many times during the 2000s that the Tories have to be destroyed in order for something to replace them and actually embrace conservative values in numerous columns and media appearances he made. Then come this election, when there's a real chance of that actually happening - says that we must support them otherwise Labour will be much worse. Anyone else starting to get a picture of Hitchens' real character or perhaps his role in the mainstream media landscape now?
@DavidSmith-mo3dk
@DavidSmith-mo3dk 2 месяца назад
Well we'll well how clever of Mr Hitchen we the people who are awake already know this, and, voting the Tories back on office would achieve what exactly .. nothing ... but with Labour in office the revolution will arrive a lot sooner. As for policies and laws that can't be reversed! This is what will drive a revolution laws the people refuse to obey, dictatorial leaders who must be removed by force. Being nice no longer helps anyone.
@piratejack2469
@piratejack2469 2 месяца назад
What Hitchens is saying is don't vote Labour which is logical. Saying don't vote Reform because you will get Labour is completely illogical and some of his rhetoric here on the 1997 Blair victory and consequences as if he was the only one who could see what was coming is a bit too much. A silly little speech more about him than adding anything to the debate. I suppose in years to come he'll say "i told you so!" Yeah roght thanks Peter. Vote Refprm!
@tomnicholson2115
@tomnicholson2115 2 месяца назад
I don't care if he thinks it's childish but I am voting Reform, he mistakes 'Hitchens' with genius because he's not bright enough to see that the word 'Cristopher' is much closer to the mark! and I will be voting Reform!
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