Petrol BEATS Electric! 

Can a petrol car be cheaper to operate than an electric vehicle? We tackle this in this highly scientific take on Bench Torque.😀 *Get your fullBOOST merch!* 👉 shop.fullboost.com.au

All I took from this was "hopefully it's a ghost shit so there's no wiping!" 😂

Why didn’t they test a VN V6? The extra mang helps on the freeway and you can get free petrol too when you drive off from the servo without paying!

It would have been amazing to have included a prev model year 730d also, just to add some extra salt in that wound. The meltdown would have been even more epic.

Imagine we lived in a world where all cars were EVs, and then along comes a new invention, the "Internal Combustion Engine"! Think how well they would sell: A vehicle half the weight, half the price that will almost quarter the damage done to the road. A vehicle that can be refuelled in 1/10th of the time and has a range of up to 4 times the distance in all weather conditions. It does not rely on the environmentally damaging use of non-renewable rare earth elements to power it, and use far less steel and other materials. Just think how excited people would be for such technology, it would sell like hot cakes!!!

Mitsubishi outback ready ev, because the outback in Australia is full of power points.

One of my bosses has an EQC400. He's had it for a couple of years now and has done numerous trips between Sydney and Melbourne. After his most recent trip he came into the office and declared he's getting rid of the EQC and getting a hybrid. Has to plan his trip based on distance between chargers and hope that the charger is actually operational. At freeway speeds he can't even get from Albury to Melbourne without having to charge in something that is supposed to have a 400km range. On the last trip it took him 6h to get from Albury to Melbourne because there was only 1 charger available when he needed to top up and there was a queue of cars in front of him.

Can we talk about the fact that LPG is a relative clean burning fuel, cheap to make as it's just a by-product of extracting oil and the fact that the Australian Gov't encouraged people to get it installed 20 years ago with a rebate. Why is LPG disappearing from servo's? I heard word that Ford had to derate the power output of the dedicated LPG models in the B and F series falcons so that they could still sell the xr6's. The LPG models could make far more power stock from factory that the petrol model. My old mans BA wagon with 430,000 kms with aftermarket injected gas made more power on the dyno than petrol with a mild tune up. Yes I am aware that LPG has about 30% less energy than petrol, so more is needed to go the same distance as petrol, but surely more development would help bump up these figures. Anyway great video lads, love the humour and the cut scenes , that made it hilarious 👌

Free charging at home is girl maths.

I do 40k kms a year in the bush… Your boys favourite 3.2 5pot bt50 with a stick shift carry’s me round like a magic carpet… bounces the Roos off the front and panels like a boss. 320,000 on her and she growls every start up… and as you know… pulls like a fuckin TRACTOR!

"We knew it was rigged from the start" had me spit out my coffee.

Both these bmw’s have nothing on a hand forged by Jesus Toyota 4.5ltr v8 diesel

Mind blowing how some people cannot accept that EV's have a specific use case when considering time. Great for urban travel and not so great for rural travel unless you have time to spare and have access to charging stations in the region in which you're travelling. Very simple in my opinion. I would absolutely own an EV if I could justify the expense for a dedicated urban vehicle. On the topic of average KMs, the point was spot on. Weekly average (non holiday) driving for me is approximately 10Km, some weekends I can travel 500Km and some months I can travel 5000km. An EV does not suit my use case for all scenarios. Until then, I wait. Thanks for the content

You made the first video that doesn't bash the 7-Series' look 😁

Also, highway ghost shits never end as you hope 😂

Agree with the last bit. Not everyone can afford a 70k+ new car then another 10k+ solar system to charge it 'free'. 90% of the political influences jamming it down our throats wouldn't even own one personally.

Some people just can't be told. I daily drive a Bogan spec 2017 R8 LSA, it's a total Bogan chariot, I can accept that, and not get butt hurt and accept it as a fact. Thanks for the vid. Always love your guys content, also ride or die since pre-RU-vids.

Is that what those flash lookin parking bays are for? I thought they were vacuums or something. Maybe I should stop parking my DIESEL Patrol in them.

You know what no one is talking about “LPG” at less than 80 cents per litre!!!

Excellent video . I have a Tesla model 3 performance, I didn’t buy it to be green but so I could drag off most exotic, big turbo skylines, barras and from the lights . Although I love the technology, acceleration etc it’s actually inconvenient for highway country driving. Recently was planning a business trip to kalgoorlie from Perth and read that a charger was down and another with possible damage . Although I could most likely make it with one top up charge I just couldn’t risk the anxiety attack that was looming. I decided to take my Kawasaki ninja 1000sx . Petrol stations everywhere and top up in 2 mins with piss as well . Ev’s and Country Australia don’t blend very well.

Lmao, great video guys. They didn’t need to put fuel in the petrol car to get to Sydney. He planned the stop for where they charged, it’s just that the range reduced on the fly and he only just made it.

Another great one fellas! Laughing like a kid on a Sunday morning!

Anyone staunch enough to do a highway servo ghost shit with no wipe?

We have a Pajero Sport for road trips and a EX30 on order for around town, I'm completely unbiased I think there is pros and cons for ICE and EV and think in a geographically dispersed country like Australia there's a case for both to coexist

Omg " hopefully its a Ghost shit no wiping " 😂😂😂

I love you gents! Keeping it real & take the silly emotion out Keep doing what your doing!

Great video lads . I wrote a comment on that Car expert video that imagine they used the 30D instead of the B58 petty motor it would have ben a blood bath for the EV. Joe Achilles , who drove one of those in the test, took his 30d from the centre of London to his intended destination at the south of France I think it was and did over 1100 miles on one tank and had 90 miles left!

Thank you gentlemen for covering this one and showing that the EV crowd are not happy Jan, should we buy them a box of Kleenex tissues just a suggestion.

The Memes are over the top hilariously 😂😂😂😂

Awesome 👌 Now we wait for the EV fan people 😂

My wife has a BYD ev as a work car. We can't charge it at home because the boss can't reimburse her. Our power bill can't separate the cost. So she has to go to a Tesla charger 20ks away and sit there for 45mins. That's if there's nobody else there. There are no chargers within 20mins of our house. It's a pain in the butt.

how many rental properties have solar and would even be big enough to have any left for the car charge when it gets home from work in winter 6pm? it's not charging on solar unless it's home all day if it hasn't got a power wall installed also. the difference in price on that BMW is a house deposit probably for most people.

I reckon the Batteries in EV's will get a lot better and will make them much more viable. But as it sits right now, that Car Expert Video really showed what plenty of people already realized. EV's just aren't that good. I like the idea of having a car that costs less money to own. But electricity ain't free and this showed how expensive it can be. Where EV's will be good is that they'll require less maintenance (although some people enjoy that kind of thing). If electricity becomes cheaper and more readily available over the course EV's will become the car of choice.

Another thing never mentioned is how often Tesla and other battery manufacturers have been caught out dumping dangerous chemicals and fouling local water supplies.

Ah the good ol ghost shit ...wipe twice cause ya think ya missed ya ass on the first wipe it was so clean 😂😂😂😂

This was news to not many of us, but I still enjoyed both the Carexpert video and the bonus Bench Torque. EVs are simply not the answer, and wishful thinking doesn't change that. Love you guys' work - but hope you didn't order too many full charge shirts...

Your T-shirt tho bro ...😂😂Perfect 😉

Two points EV people like, -EV is faster -EV is more efficient if you drive slower

Entertaining as always.

Nailed it. 14:05 Its the people earning less (and/or spending less) than a million dollars a year who are the problem

The conversation real car enthusiasts should be having is WTF is happening at BMW design, again. They'd almost put their Bangle era behind them. Look at those 7 Series, ugh.

the most impressive part of that test with the BMWs was the 3L twin turbo straight 6 in a 2100kg car averaged low 6L 100kms and only filled up at the end to calculate the cost it could have done another 250kms also has anyone else noticed how slow fuel pumps at servos pump now i remember 10 years ago it took like 2min to pump 50L of petrol took over 10min to fill my trition with 78L of petrol the other day are fuel bowsers being RIGGED to make electric cars look slightly more attractive

Funniest fart based humor from you fellas. Gold. Cranking one out like a super charge battery. And... ghosty turd saves on paper. Lmfao

This is fun to watch play out. At the end of the day the real issue is change, fear or not. I'm sure the same arguments of being able to take a piss while riding your horse or how your horse could refuel anywhere without needing a petrol station. I love a Turbo Barrow with 1100 Kw but the reality is we're moving on. I've heard some weird emotional arguments for ICE as much as I've heard for EV's. I dumped petrol and converted my 80's commodore to straight gas, never had to worry about range because believe it or not the market accepted LPG and we now have LPG at every station :) Same is coming for EV.

Solar only works when it’s clear sky’s between 10am and 2pm. If you live in Melbourne, how often does that happen? Also take into consideration what your house uses, there’s not much left to change a car. EV are great, but we’re just not there yet. I wouldn’t get an EV until I had 15kw of solar and 30kwh battery with 35amp car charger.

Great video, I have sed for years I would put myRX8 Sll up against a tesla of the same year, on a trip around NZ , or top to bottom, I'm sure I would leve it for dead even at the speed limits, on time and cost. Would love to have the chance to have a go. Just don't have the money to waste. 😊 Love your work

I’m using a mates Tesla at the moment. It lost 7% battery parked in the driveway overnight. I’d be annoyed if I lost that much petrol overnight. Also home charging is slow AF.

Thanks for the stickers with the T shirt lads. 👍

The earth will continue to produce to oil regardless of people use it or not. By definition oil is renewable.

Has anyone looked into the cost and everything that goes into making the cars with everything that is involved start to finish and then cost of everything involved to maintain set up the house with cost for the charging station, and then a two week trip for cost and efficiency on both

😂 my free solar system cost me$50k😢takes around 10 years to break even

All so to mention EV are much heavier which results in Tyres wearing out much quicker and the tyres themself are designed differently to cope with the weight so theses EV tyres cost more in every way more than a petrol car.

TIME IS MONEY wouldnt stop for a coffee on a 300 mile run unless we need to detour through maccas. if you have a coffee And a full tank, why stop? just keep her lit. TIME IS MONEY

Reminds me of the feud between Ford and Chevrolet owners...many of the parts are made by same subs using the same machines.

You have to love the choice of cars. Anyone that would buy either of these new would not give a rats about the running costs. I’m sure both are lovely cars but the nose dive in value will be rivalled only by shares in Boeing. Can you think of anyone in their right mind that would want to own this after it’s warranty?

Best definition of an average: place one foot in a bucket of boiling water and the other foot in a bucket of near freezing water; According to the average, you're comfortable.

Electric car enthusiasts are just about a dictionary definition of Cognitive Dissonance. A very common condition these days.

Do when you factor in that you install solar for 20k plus a car that cost an extra 80k.....that's a hell of a lot of fuel you can buy. Also a petrol car will last 10+ years. You will be lucky to get 10 years out of a battery. Fuck I can't get four years out of my mobile phone. 🤔

Well i understand that your solar panels set up etc If you have a house with solar energy. Yeah na he has a point, Yeah what's petroleum going to cost in 5 years from now , 5 NZ per litre?

Love this channel. You guys are true blue hero’s. The truth is out there..

Love this episode Boyz 👍👍👍

In the real world Unicorn Farts can not power the earth.

It's not just the charging though, it's the battery life too. So you need to include the battery cost. I'd like to see a long term comparison between fuel refills and charging/replacement battery costs. P.s. if I could reasonably swap my classic over to EV I would do it, but it just doesn't make $$$$$ sense.

Depending on how you drive daily, the ICE car + a solar installation for the price difference between buying the EV or ICE version of the car, the ICE car and the solar installation could be better for the environment then buying the more expensive EV and not being able to afford the solar installation. Also every KW that goes into the EV could have been used to cook a meal or heat a house instead, so charging will never be free. My next car is 90% sure going to be an EV, but the many false claims from EV drivers still piss me off.

Always loved the T1000 head in the background.. another good laugh fellas, cheers.

Bench Torque! Love it

I’m just glad it’s all free 😂😂😂

Nice work guys..! Furthermore cementing my distain for EV's. One point no one is talking about however and imo quite literally the "elephant" in the room, weight..! In the instance of a crash that extra 800kgs is a huge concern. Could imagine one of those EV 7's fully loaded would flatten your average punters coal burner. Wonder how the 2 stack up in a crash test..

We fkn love these videos. ❤

You guys are right on the money. At last, somebody that understands and makes sense! A lot of these evs are being charged at night at home using gas and coal fired power….. there is no solar at night!

I pass Tesla's on the way to work in the freeway. They sit at 80 in the 110 zone. Is it a range anxiety thing?

Who else just decides to go on a 500km drive randomly? 😂

Good work boys 😊

The best test will be when they do a test towing a caravan around a 1000km round trip and then a trip from Sydney to Perth.

There was another EV vs ICE race in the UK. They bought a $12000 deisel BMW of FB market place and raced it against a EV Porche. The BMW won obviously but they also worked out that in the time the race took the Porche had depreciated $12000 in value.

...And "the more you buy, the more you save" tag-line is all that's missing from Team-EV🙆😂

Always get a laugh lads. Full noise.

So as a summary: EV Model: BMW i7 M70 EV Vehicle Price: $344,900 EV Energy Cost: $131.92 EV Wait Time: 2hr 8min ICE Model: BMW 740i ICE Vehicle Price: $272,900 ICE Energy Cost: $117.88 ICE Wait Time: 0hr 6min Total Trip Distance: 873km In summary: EV costs ~70k more to buy ~12% more to run ~2000% longer to refill When compared to the equivalent ICE vehicle.

Love this vid as an EV owner, carby V8 owner and a diesel owner. People get so triggered on both sides.

The cost of putting in solar power and wind turbines Wind turbines are hi maintenance short life span and not to mention all of the bird life they kill We’re is the rspca and the greens on that

I usually last 2.5 hours between toilet stops but like you say it’s a splash and go And my 12 year old 520 does 1200 km Highway driving I’m the week point That’s from my front door to the city and back twice with left over fuel I think the test was pretty fair really but how it should have been was both left at the same time and just drive to the finish in their time to see time to journey and cost to journey I said they should have used Hyundai konas

Won’t somebody please think of the children!!!!!!!!

What no one raises is they still have not started taxing EV's with road tax like they tax fuel, when that happens EVs will be way more expensive..

I run my old td42 powered patrol on waste cooking oil. I challenge any EV to a running cost comparison. Both tanks full my patrol has a range of 1200km. Try that in your battery on wheels 😂

Pure Gold 😊

The banter's incredible as always but let's not forget that petrol cars, while still being objectively better than EV's at this current state, will only last as long as fossil fuels are still around to be processed. However the argument of cost savings regarding EV's isn't specifically stuck in regards to the charging costs if whether or not your house has a solar panel installed or not (granny chargers exists), there's other variables such as vehicle maintentance and gas prices compared to owning a petrol vehicle. While yes, EV's suffer from range anxiety despite the advancements done with lithium batteries, there's still hope if Solid State Batteries would find it's way into the customer market (more energy dense and longer lasting) I don't mind alternative fuels such as Hydrogen though that would generally require an overhaul to the already existing Petrol engine, and possibly leading to a radical change in automation on a similar scale how we adopted the petrol vehicle in early 20th century. My best suggestion would be for a company to produce drop-in replacement, synthetic fuel that would mimick the ordinary petrol as a way to keep older cars alive and around. Other than that I've been digging this type of video format, looking forward to some more!

How about they start the test with both tanks empty. Dunno about you but half if not most of my long trips I fill up the tank the morning I leave.

BMW would not have let them do it without retaining some form of control. There is no way BMW would hand over these cars for this "experiment" without a few "conditions".

Can't beat my Lpg Prius for running costs compared with EV or Petrol

We need to invest in STEM and increase the level of technical literacy in the nation.

My solar panels have paid them self off in a few years, they are great for my electricity bills and would only get better if i had a battery. I dont get fuck all back from the energy i put into the grid but im still paying 1/4 of what i did 3 years ago every 3 months so im saving money. EVs are going to be the future, but not until we have better battery technology than Lithium. Lithium is dangerous, it cant be rebuilt like a motor and cost 20-40k to replace a battery in a car every 5-10 years if you lucky! If i was younger and still rode motor cross id be considering the new stark dirt bike.. When all the retired and current pro SX riders are saying they actually LOVE it, then i want one.. And at a mx/sx track you pump out 20 laps until you cant hang onto the the handle bars anymore, charge it for 40 mins while u rest and have another 20 mins full rip. If your a slower rider/weekend warrior then expect 40 laps Either way my sugarcane feed barra ute will shit on the BMWS... might burn 60litires of fuel in a few minutes but also get me from melb to Heathcote and back to melb on a single tank if i dont run it and just spectate/help mates out

On the petrol v electric debate, I get passionate when EV’s are claimed to be the magic bullet for global warming. It isn’t. Now for performance, it can become an interesting argument. A Tesla isn’t, and never will be a performance car. A heavy car, will always feel like a heavy car through the corners. Now, electric hasn’t reached its real potential down that path. Think about it, the first motor car was built in 1886, and look at what it can do today. What will EV’s do with that same period of development? A hint is the McMurty Speirling. It broke the Goodwood record in 2020.. and it’s actually LIGHT (looking at you Tesla with your electric elephants) 1000kg. That’s lighter than a MX5.

Love a good ghost shit 🤣👍🍻

Should put it up agains a ba-bf-fg that’s dedicated lpg

Gotta love a no wipe shit!

I'm immediately going online ✍️✍️👇 🤣 It's free!

Don't forget that for an EV your 'fuel tank' will shrink by a few percent every year

Fellas…… ok let’s make this real! You go get ya self Tesla and I’ll bring my stock as a rock 1973 Holden LJ Torana powered by an awesome 173ci and see who gets to Sydney first!

Just a marketing stunt from Carexpert how many people can afford a 7 series

Ok internet, that's enough with the cut scenes. It's sooo F'ing annoying. Just have a conversation without the bullshit ffs