Interesting video, thanks! I’m definitely thinking to pick one up for long (25+ meter) ascents. If it saves a bit of energy then it instantly becomes worth it… SRT into and out of a cave is exhausting so a cheap piece of effective equipment to improve efficiency is definitely interesting. I’ll be trying it out.
I have one, like it very much. Just never lose the silver coloured part. Petzl will have you buy a totally new one, as the don't sell that part seperately :-(
My own experience is that, rather than helping to correct bad form, the Pantin just enables bad form to still function with some reasonably level of efficiency. As my form as improved, due to some intentionality, lots of squats, and running that has made me thin, I've found I have no need of one. It seems like cavers with a higher center of mass simply cannot achieve ideal form, and for them a Pantin would be a godsend.
Great review! I just received my pantin in the mail and showed it to a friend who promptly told me that they eat up the rope (she hasnt used one but has heard this from other cavers) I did some digging and didnt find those direct words, but did read that the slippage can be hard on a rope sheath when you dont have the safety catch on, which makes sense. What is your experience with this? I havent gotten to get my pantin on rope yet, but Im thinking it will be worth it to order the safety catch just for the sake of rope wear.
I have heard the theory that foot ascenders can damage the rope by the teeth "picking" at the sheath, but I've never experienced this myself. It almost certainly would if it were slipping, but it should not slip, and I've never experienced or heard of them slipping. Whether there is picking or slippage (again, never experienced these), neither of these should be affected by the safety catch. The safety catch just prevents the ascender from coming off the rope accidentally, but should have no affect on rope wear. The safety catch for the Petzl Pantin is only $5 and you can decide later whether there's any advantage in having it or not, so it's probably worth picking one up to try. Static caving rope wears over time and eventually needs to be replaced. There seem to be a lot of theories as to what causes this and in most cases it's probably a combination of many factors.
@@DerekBristol Thanks for the thorough answer and insight! Ive found cavers... at least on my end of the country tend to be hard-headed with strong opinions about gear. One group of caving friends will decide a certain piece of gear is bad and go as far as to look down on other cavers who use the gear they dont like. It boggles my mind! I think the key is knowing how to properly use any piece of gear you own, and always inspecting your gear (including ropes) for wear! Hope you're staying safe and healthy during quarantine!
This is true for some, but not all. It seems to depend on climbing technique and position as well... and some cavers famously wear out their chest ascenders above the cam rather than below.
@@ulrickburdette617 Definitely not. Traditionally you’d have a footloop on the left foot and a Pantin on the right foot. They are used together and the Pantin just helps with efficiency, but is not a replacement.
Под каким психотропным препаратом должен быть талантливый инженер уважаемой Petzl, что бы ВСЕ. КАРЛ. ВСЕ лямки, на изделие которое будут одевать на НОГУ- изготовить из белоснежной силовой ленты?
