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Another great review thanks. I was ready to press the "Buy" button when Citroen announced their ë-C4 which seems to be a step up even though it's built on the same platform. I can't wait for you to get your hands on one and give us the low down.
Got my E2008 at the end of October and I love it. It was close between getting this E208 and the E2008. In the end just went with the slighter bigger car.
I bought the Corsa at the end. This one looks better, but the Corsa's interior makes more sense, more usable and is not wannabe futuristic with lots of shiny plastic
I think the Corsa looks better inside AND OUT. . Don't like the dents in the side of the Pug. Shame as i'm a Pug fan and don't normally like any Vauxhalls
Thanks for the review. For me, it looks as though it has been supplied pre-shunted. Furthermore, it's cluttered in design, all around, and the black wheel arch surround makes it look as though the arches are far too big. The front seats also seem to be quite claustrophobic, but that might be a camera effect. You also seemed to be very cramped for foot space around those apparently offset pedals. At least we agree about the nasty piano black plastic and the ridiculous glove box which would struggle to contain a pair of gloves! From a usability perspective, it's generally not bad at all, and the range is adequate.
Won't be an option I suspect in Australia but still love to see your reviews. Hope you and Harry will do more of your road trip adventures in future well when you can obviously. Also your RU-vid banner you should update with your new EV just noticed it was your old EV(Leaf).
TassieEV1 I think that there will be a special "coal fired" Auzzie version soon. Some of your politicians don't seem to be embracing an EV future, at all. Hopefully that will change. Cheers.
Something I'll say is we need more of a metric when EVM comes to the end of his review videos. A new EV is VERY exciting but this video tails off at the end. Buy it, shortlist it, consider it, avoid it or whatever metric is needed but something at the end to help us see, in EVMs opinion, how he rates it definitely.. just a thought
Not a bad idea - some kind of score in say 8 categories. Range per dollar, Performance, Charging, Safety, Entertainment and Navigation, Cargo space, Interior room and comfort and then give an overall value figure derived from that. In the end buying a car is a bit more of a personal like and dislike thing but a basic “scoring” system when it comes to comparing similar vehicles would be helpful. It mean’s Adrian can pull out the whiteboard at the end of each video : )
Iv never been into Peugeots at all but this seems rather nicer than the vw ID.3 but too expensive. The renault zoe seems the cheapest but its a females car from the name.
Best looking hatch on the market? Cheap plastic wheel arcs, huge front air intake that serves no purpose and childish claw DRLs. It looks like it borrowed something from ugly DS3/DS4. Both are French so I guess that's understandable. Hardly a contender for something like Mercedes A class.
Last Peugeot I had was the first and the last, things just kept dropping off it or failing 308sw never again, although this looks OK. Tesla is clearly the best.
@only1andrews I just picked up a 1 year old GT model for £27k. The new ones have something like 15 miles extra range, but not much else has been added. In fact, the new ones probably won't a have wireless charging mat.
Wait till I tell you I got my e208 brand new with 10 inch touch, all the piano keys, all the bells and whistles ... for £22,500. From a Barnsley dealer who couldn't tell the difference between KWh and Ohms
@@sheldonv8 It's a completely different car... why is it okay to tell people across the internet that you think your car is better than theirs? It's like saying a detached house is "better" than a townhouse. It depends entirely on your reasons for buying a house.
Agreed - really love the styling of this. Never have considered a Peugeot before ...but would with this. Longer range version would be nicer - and likely still affordable (ish). Plus a hot hatch version.
@Andrew Battersby I'm in my 50's so I can remember cars that would be classed as classic cars now. I can honestly say ride quality is one area that hadn't got better over the years, in fact it's got worse. BL had Hydragas, Citroen had hydropneumatic...and they both worked well. Just imagine an Austin 1100 a cheap car for the masses had Hydrolastic suspension and a fully independent rear suspension...no torsion beams here!.
As you've got one and are probably far more tech-savvy than me, could you add your fourpenny'sworth in answer to the three queries I've raised with Ian, above? Thanks.
Ian, re the Peugeot e208, bearing in mind I'm a technophobe please can you clarify three things for me in the simplest terms, as follows: 1) when coming to a halt at, say, traffic lights, do I have to employ the P brake in ADDITION to the electronic brake each and every time? 2) still on the subject of that front P button, must it also be pressed each time the gear toggle is moved from, for instance, B to N mode? 3) that speed limiter (forget cruise control), which in my opinion is stupidly placed behind rather than on the steering wheel - how precisely does that facility work when you can't see the darn thing? After the simplicity of my Zoe, the Pug's functionality in these things seems complex and bewildering. HELP!
As far as design is concerned, in my opinion, Peugeot are the world leaders ! The Hyundai Ioniq in my view is also basically a good looking car, but the grill of the e-version thereof is positively UGLY ! It seems to me that people who are capable of engineering a good car aren’t always capable of designing a good looking car ! Having said that, the Peugeot 3008, especially the new facelift thereof, is the best looking compact SUV on the market, but it’s big sister, the 5008 looks like someone made a botched attempt at plastic surgery on the 3008 ! Similarly, the Mazda CX-3 is a beautiful car, but the CX-5 is not in the same league as far as looks is concerned. It’s a pity that some designers seem to be blind in that respect.
Just had a test drive. Absolutely hated it. The steering response was nice but that was it. The suspension is horrible especially compared to the Honda-e and even the Mini SE. The infotainment is boring and feels really outdated. The materials in the car seems very plasticky and this is the e208 GT I tested. To be honest I felt the Honda-e and even the Mini electric felt like a big upgrade compared to this car. How it won the car of the year, I will never know.
Pretty car but do you go for the Corsa same car cheaper and you get knobs! Then the ID3 arrived and then the 500E. Trouble is all these cars are 30K plus. Still Dacia will come along and give you one for half the price.
I used to enjoy EV spotting when on a trip somewhere. It was easy to recognise a LEAF, an i3, a Tesla. I always had trouble telling Zoes from Clios but Souls weren't too hard to tell apart from their combustion version (probably because I had an EV one myself). I can't keep up with all of these new cars, though. That's doubly true when we have these cars that are near identical between their EV and fossil variants. Great that there are so many new EVs on the road but I'm a bit sad that my days of EV spotting are perhaps not over but certainly a lot trickier!
Ahhhhh,.... The range. The second biggest reason I chose the Zoe over this (number 1 was the cramped and comically small rear seats). My ZE50 Zoe gets and absolutely guaranteed and rock solid 220 miles in summer and you have to really push it to get under 180 in winter (so far). For a car with a 50KWH battery, the e208 just doesn't have the range that it SHOULD. The ZE40 Zoe went further and it had 10KWH LESS capacity. And is three years old. Nope. Looks lovely though
French car electrics are legendary for their poor quality, they used to say that if you wanted to scrap your Pug/Citroen, just have the engine bay steam cleaned. I had a 306 from back when Peugeot actually made a car that was worth the hassle of owning one, and that got to a point where going over a minor bump would randomly turn off/on/disconnect one two of the following...... The wipers, the headlights, the tail lights, the ignition coils, the lambda sensor or just the entire ECU.
I just wish they would stop with the stupid 'Let's make them look over the steering wheel to see the instruments'. There's a reason nobody else does that - it's pants especially if you're around 5'10"
it seems to be still a 207 underneath and that's ok for people with young children or no friend's the back seats are torture for any one over 3 years old my 106 is more comfortable for passengers on a long trip
I think the presenter is mistaken. The 'e' in the e-208 does NOT stand for 'electric.' Rather, I have to assume that the major shareholders of Peugot cars are now from Yorkshire. Hence: 'E - 208 - it's grand. Great for putting loads of stuff int' boot. It drives great. In fact, it's more than grand. It's CHAMPION..!'
Have been looking at EV's recently, the e-208 GT is a great car, price compared to the competition is excellent. Test drove already, going to purchase on my company as soon as I get a new contract.
Do you hate where the drive modes are? It's on the passenger side and not the driver side I know it's a little niggle... But they didn't swap it over.. Also what's the range like
I was dithering between this and the Corsa-e but the poverty spec e-208 is worse than the lower-spec Corsa-e. The conventional controls on the Corsa and I that I managed to get a corsa-e at a good price without having to haggle made me go that way. You can get a base-spec Corsa-e in a rather dull blue metalic for £23500 without any haggling if you know where to look.
Started watching your channel from the beginning when you was electric leaf man. No intention of getting a leaf but was interested in the technology. this will be my first EV, it gets delivered tomorrow.
i think it is nice for people who want a smaller car. i recently saw the registration numbers in germany last month and the e-208 is far behind the zoe. i don't know why. is the production capacity limited?
i acually love the cruise control handle .. seems PSA sticks with this handle for many years my 307SW from 2005 had it .. my newer Expert has it .. don't have to reads whats on it .. i can feel it :-) Cruise control on the steering itself i don't like
It is October 23rd 2021, and I've ordered one, not as a GT but as the Allure Premium (here it's called Allure + Pack). The downside is that I'll have to wait till next Easter for delivery. I have decided on the e208 by following such reviews from EVM and others. The other option in my budget range was the Zoe Z.E. 50 although I would have splashed for the GT line to have some really decent options. Thanks EVM.
I tried this car and I really liked it. In the end I opted for an MGZS simply because I thought the 208 might be too small for our needs and the main gripe was no dealer within 60 miles plus Peugeot have a questionable reputation for customer service. That was enough to sway me away from what appears to be a good little car.
3:15 That trim around the wheel arch makes out look like a tiny wheel in a black void. 10:45 Looks like centre console is not made for RHD, as the cup holders would be on the left and the buttons on the right. 18:30 *thinks of Ace Ventura driving in the jungle* 😉
Me a French person: Wait, this is not how the glove box is on my c... Oh shit, they really shit on right-hand drive conception so much they just don't make actual good gloveboxes for yall because they just wanna be able to switch the wheel and contrls, right ? Ugh
Bonnet looks too long compared to rest of car for me. EVs can be made more compact. Really hope the SUV thing dies out soon as it's producing too many oversized cars with massive front bonnets that are dangerous for pedestrians.
I Would love to know your opinion on the Polestar 2, or even better a review and drive if you ever get your hands on one. I have booked a test drive for the performance edition which if all goes ok should hopefully pre-order one for March delivery.
Heavy cars ride better than lighter versions because the ‘load’ % is smaller and thus suspension tuning doesn’t have to be as compromised. Why BEVs are regarded as only having acceptable ride is a mystery to me.
How would you compare the boot of both cars? Comparing the Zoe's boot (338L) to the Corsa-e (267L), my folding bike only barely fits in the latter (and it could even touch the rear window) - but is just fine - with space to spare - in a Zoe ZE40. Oddly, the e-208 boot (311L) seems to be larger than the Corsa's on paper... no idea how that works.
@@nigelrowe2204 well yes, exactly: I actually *put* my folding bike in 2 of the 3 cars I mentioned: that's practical not theoretical size for me. Just haven't had the chance to try a e-208... yet.
If you compare it to it's direct competition it hits a nice balance handling wise, it would have to compromise the mass market ride quality to get more from it. I've taken mine for "spirited" drives up Irish mountain roads and it's never disappointed as long as I remember that it's not intended to be a GTi. That being said, I'll be on the list for a GTi/Peugeot Sport version if they can get one to market and I think you are right that they need to do it.
One thing the zoe does well is 22kw charging on fast chargers. That is often overlooked and gives it useful ability to charge on a wider range of chargers if you find the rapids are occupied
@@enyaq_gorm I’m sorry but it doesn’t compared to a modern rapid charge. I average 115kW and although it is on a supercharger, other EVs are catching up, as are chargers themselves. 4/5 times faster makes a colossal difference. Instavolt and the new BP rapids don’t have AC. Neither do the new Ecotricity units.
A very very well done review. The people involved with making the external and internal design of the latest generation of Peugoets are working wonders. The 3008 and 5008 are wonderful to look at. My wish is I hope those engineers and designers are given another lets say 3-5k euros in selling price point to play with in the next generation of models to make them flawless - no cheap plastics in interior - glove box fuse box switch on rhd cars - no ugly stalks - adaptable flap on cup holder to adapt to circumference of bottle/cup - remove gloss black arches and in the interior - Panaramic roof on middle specced cara and not just top of the line GT specced models. These pano roofs are game changers imo just not enough people have yet to experience them to notice how nice a feature they are relative to a blocked out roof liner. All in all love the direction Peugeot bave been steering the last 2 or 3 years. You have a great well explained review here and im so pleased you are able to get your hands on one as one of the "little guys" at your subscriber level as opposed to the likes of autocar, evo & topgear who just smoke cigars and waffle on about the handling of cars like all buyers do is buy every single car on earth to see how it handles on a track. Thumbs up, a comment and a click of the bell for the YT algorithyms.
To be fair, people who haven’t a clue or are dull as dishwater drive Skodas... loving Peugeot’s new design language very much - so much more interesting and new compared to anything German, a friend has a new 508’s and it’s genuinely nice. Great review of a cool car
Good review. What does crack me up is that this style of review of cars was given up on by top gear 20+ years ago as it was considered boring and had little entertainment value. Yet in 2020 RU-vid is full of videos like these. Again not a dig at this video in particular, just an observation of the genre as a whole now.
Maybe EVM isn't trying to entertain you, but to educate you with a real-world review. If you want non-factual, opinion-over-substance reviews, call Jeremy Clarkson.
@@wilsonhitchings6687 i know, it wasnt a dig just an observation of the genre. Although ironically id guess that 90% of the people viewing already own an EV as is the case for most EV videos too (another irony). I remember the fully charged event and it was preaching to an audience of EV Evangelists about why they should buy an EV when they already had one.
Excellent review yet again, you’re my go to electric vehicle man, I’m same as a lot of folk out there most of us are still learning and it’s great to see these videos. Thanks for sharing your views it’s much appreciated
Correct. Its just a case of scale. When Peugeot put a contract out for say 500 million euros worth of battery instead of say for example 50 million euros worth of battery contract per annum the price will drop and they will be able to drop the rrp of the e cars whilst still maintaining a pleasant margin. Its just a case of taking more people to intend on purchasing electric motor cars as opposed to piston motor cars in a big big way. Wait another 3 years and see either the cars improve quite a bit in spec for the same money or thr same spec decrease in price slightly.
I have the DS3 E-Tense which looks so similar to the E208, and the battery and motor are the same so real world range at 70mph will give you a poor 125 miles in the summer, unlike the lies they will tell you of over 200 miles. I have done 12k miles in my ds3 and at 56mph I can get 175 miles but then at 150 I need to look for a charger. I am giving back the DS3 as its a motability car for my autistic son and spending so long charging, when we can find chargers that are working, its just not practical so I am going to a Peugeot 2008 Diesel as they really do look amazing. I will in 3 years, when it comes to the time I hand back the next motability car check how the electric cars and chargers are doing. We are so limited on the motability scheme for decent range BEV's, there are none, yet..
Enjoyed the review as always but was surprised you were non-plussed by the handling. Bjorn Nyland’s review a few months back had given me the impression that it was a good “drivers” car but maybe that’s relative and has changed now the Mini e is out...
Every reviewers I saw that drove the left hand drive version praised the handling, but the reviewers driving the right hand drive version did not like the handling
I think they look great, especially in the blue or the yellow. The side profile is very reminiscent of the 205GTi. I'm slightly disappointed to hear that it's not brilliant to drive - that seems like a missed opportunity. If I had to swap my Zoe (40) for something, it would probably be this, but the price to change is too significant - you could get a Zoe for around 17k a few years ago and now everything in the segment is >23k. On charging - what is the taper like? It's all very well having a headline of 100kW, but if it tapers quickly then that's meaningless.
It's fine to drive, really, always a bit of a personal thing though. I drive a BMW (petrol) at the moment, great car but not electric. Tried the e208, thought it was absolutely fine. Preferred the Mini, but it's a bit small... Give it a go if you're interested!
@Electric Vehicle Man, yep they've hinted at it a bit over the last year and car magazine had a bit of an article on why the next GTi would be an EV. I've a GT line spec e-208 and I'd definitely go up to a GTi spec when our pcp is up
Nice review, but saying it slaps competition in the face, I don't think so. The e208 was one of the options for a Fiesta replacement and the Zoe came first. Fair enough the interior isn't quite as well crafted and refined but there's certainly more space in the Zoe. I also found the infotainment system easier to use, with a much better Nav system. As for range, Zoe wins as well with easily 230 miles during the summer, and the power doesn't tail off above 50, it keeps giving. As you mentioned we're all different but from a family perspective the Renault wins with the Peugeot second. At the end of the day it came down to internal space and range.
Definitely need to make an alternative to gloss black plastic. Everything looks covered in dust and you've only had it a short while. You'll need to clean it on a daily basis. I know the camera is probably going to make things look worse but that'll show up scuffs, scratches, anything. I had a phone made from similar material and after 6 months it looked like I'd taken a knife to it on purpose.
sorry but 170 miles less panic buffer, say realistic usable range of 130 is unacceptable for 2021 onward - if it was a £20k town car, usable 130 is ok - Next yr there will be many alternatives offering above 250 real range from mid £20k
@@ElectricVehicleMan Cars like the MG5 will no doubt be upgraded + others will start to compete in this sector through necessity as the worlds ev production outgrows demand capability
Rear doors access to rear seats are impossible unless your a very thin person under 5’5”. Lip into boot over bumper massive. Prices still too expensive v Zoe, MGZ&5, Mazda, Mini, Corsa, etc. Stupid and way too fussy steering wheel-dash pinnacle Trying too hard Pug!
What do you mean you won't go on long journeys in this? All cars of all designs MUST be able to ferry five lock forwards from Lands End to John O'Groats in total comfort, non stop at the drop of a hat! How dare you suggest that a small hatchback isn't designed for this! Etc. Seriously, had this been available at the right time and price when I needed to replace my last car earlier this year, I would have chosen it over the Zoe I got, it's just... nicer. Not that the Zoe is a bad car.
I have only hired Peugeot never owned but I have owned loads of Vauxhall’s. needless to say I bought a Corsa e. The dealer (Perrys) gave me a good deal on my Juke and threw in another 2k on top with a free Pod-Point. I don’t like the e208 front grill and positivity hate those glossy wheel arches. I do like the technology. Liquid cooled 100kW charging ( I have seen it at 98kW), So air cooled cars stood no chance for me. I did test drive a leaf, nice car but expensive and with air cooling. Great honest review but you have confirmed that I made the right choice.
I love the look of this little car, I currently drive a mk3 Skoda Fabia, which is a great first car, in my opinion. I would love to drive this and I'm desperate to get an EV, it's just sad, personally, that my finances don't currently line up and I'm loathed to get this or any car on PCP or HP, not keen on the interest rates.
I hope to buy an EV within the next few months, but most of the ‘affordable’ ones have less range than I would like. Hopefully next year there will be new models with a real world range between 250 and 300 miles. Another thing that puts me off is the public charging network. I read so many stories of chargers not working, and not enough rapid chargers. As I live in a flat with no access to charging I would have to rely on public charging. So I guess I’ll have to hang on to my ‘ gas guzzler’ for a little while longer.
I am at the moment I am between the ID3, leaf and e208 like the e208 but really worried about the range. The life drives well but is so dull what’s you opinion?
Peugeot nailed it with the 205... the 206 and the 208 .. I personally dislike the 207.. I would love a 205Gti one day.. and perhaps a e208 as a daily driver .. owned a (one) 206 for many many many many km... (almost 400.000)
So the manual fits nearest the passenger door in the right hand drive car in the slot designed for the owners manual and no need to put in the storage bin part. But then Head for thinking and feet for dancing. You might expect an experienced car reviewer to think...
It was to highlight the crap size of the glove box, not a statement as to where it goes. Didn’t think I had to make it that obvious. As for experienced reviewer. It’s a free RU-vid channel, not Autoexpress.
@@ElectricVehicleMan what you said is there to listen too, no point getting narked when pointed out. As to not a professional journalist you are still earning from it.
You have not read the memo. The new normal in 2020 is that everyone will be forced to permanently wear masks and gloves so the gloss black surfaces are safe. It is just the covid bling interior spec...
A few dubious design decisions both inside and out, range is a bit anaemic likewise acceleration so not really a motorway mile muncher. But price is pretty fair. So not perfect, but maybe just a mid-generation upgrade off being ideal
I have been driving the 3008 in London, most roads now are 20mph but cruise control won’t work below 30mph, is it the same with this car? Ioniq can be set at 20mph and with adaptive cruise control will follow the car in front and match the speed down to 5mph.
Put another identical motor in, albeit at the back. Sorted. Also, Honda worked out that the shiny plastic on the display behind the steering wheel of the gen 8 Civic was getting scratched to buggery, so come facelift time, they changed to a textured sort - Peugeot should take note.
Looks cool but them frogs dont sell 'em here! How is the trip planning/maps? How are the seats, they look cool. Sound system? Tech package like phone integration, remote functions etc?
I have the petrol 130bhp and the engine is great. The steering seems quite responsive to me, no lighter than a VW Polo and the Seat Ibiza steering is overrated.
Biggest downside for me its to much similar to a petrol car, would much rather have the id3 but its far more expensive also for same price as the e208 you can get the Zs ev which i think sels better in the uk.
Hmm.... I think those pillars front and rear are a no no for me. I’m short, so need the seat forward that then brings the A pillar too much in my line of sight, especially at junctions. It’s not uncommon in modern cars. Otherwise I quite like it.
@@ElectricVehicleMan not earning enough pal to warrant spending that kind of money, catch twenty two situation at minute, keep up the quality reviews pal I reyt enjoy them 👍
I run a fleet of 15 vehicles (Driving School), 2 Kona Electric, 1 e-208, the rest Ford Fiesta 1.5TDCi and one new "hybrid" manual just come out; Over appr. 200k miles the Kona is appr. £10.000 and the e-208 appr. £15.000 cheaper than the Fiesta, that's ALL costs considered incl. re-sale value. Especially for high mileage such as private hire or driving school (for those who do automatic), well worth it! Get a bank loan if you can, that's what we did and 2 years after we got the first Kona no regrets whatsoever - it's done 36k miles now despite lockdowns, brake pads are still 0% worn and the car is sooooo relaxing to spend the day in, nice and warm in the morning, no need for defrosting ...
I really hate gloss black; put me off getting a Golf a few years back. Partner has a Tesla Model 3 and we had to get a vinyl kit to cover the gloss black.
