Phil Hellmuth said THIS about Alec Torelli | Hand of the Day presented by BetRivers 

Phil seems to be getting alot more likeable in his old age

@@evanmannion3276 Look, I like his burst outs like many of us. But as the years go by, you know that is the way Phil is. He is like a friend with flaws, you have learnt to accept because he is a great guy.

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I like your analysis good sir 👍

You don’t think people raise open ended straight draws?

@@Opxbest Not 2nd to act, on that board.

What do you make of J 10s or 10 9s? Holloway was the guy calling the action. Assuming he plays like suited connectors that make two pair on the flop. Isn't that both a raise to protect against giving the re-raiser draws on like QQ, KK, AQs, AKs, 88 or 77 while also gaining a lot more information by raising whether he's possibly running into a flopped set (or Torelli playing like KQ?)? Information that could save him money on the turn and river, also a raise that could win him the pot right on the flop, a raise that could win him more money in case he hits a full house (or has runner-runner to a flush with SUITED connectors) and a reasonable wager in order to gain all that information in case he gets re-raised on the flop and has to fold? Apart from traditional/rather cautious play, there's also the chance of getting called by AJ, top pair with a straight draw so any blank 2-6 also helps him, especially if it's the same suit as the one he holds. Assuming the most likely scenario, a fold from at least Deeb, Holloway also buys himself position for turn and river play with the raise. Back to Torelli: first I want to consider pre-flop action. You talked about made hands that are way ahead of his. That would only be JJ, 10 10 (both highly unlikely given preflop play), Q8 (a bit unlikely to call both the raise and the re-raise), 8 7 and KQ. KQ is the only hand here that is both realistic and way ahead of 9 9 once we factor in pre-flop action. 8 7 is possible but unlikely. And even against K Q, Torelli got 7 outs plus runner-runner to full house left. I think a flat call and pot control on turn and river also makes sense. The second to last big factor in determining whether to call or fold here is the opponent for me. If it's a tight-aggressive player, I'm definitely leaning fold. Against loose-aggressive, I'm 99% ruling out a bluff into two pre-flop raisers out of position on this board. Against loose-aggressive, I'd assume a medium-strong starting hand that turned into a made hand on the flop as the most likely scenario. That range includes K Q and 8 7. But it also includes Q J, J 10, 10 9, K J if it's a loose-aggressive player. I gotta ask myself here whether I'm willing to possibly risk a lot of chips on turn and river - but I would evaluate the situation as likely being ahead on the flop, with lots of potentially dangerous cards on the river. Anything from K to 8 are scare cards for me here. 2-7 and A are not against a loose-aggressive player (ain't just calling AJ or AQ pre-flop and ain't raising A8, A9 or A10 on the flop against two guys who raised pre-flop). Odds are better than 50/50 to hit a good turn and river in which case it's check-call/pot control for me. What's more, runner-runner with a 'blank' (22,33,44,55,66) is check-call on the turn and then a value bet on the river or a check-raise/check-check - for a huge payday against the ENTIRE realistic range. Even if the opponent folds against the value bet or it's check-check, I'm good. 7 on the turn is a bit problematic but I wouldn't be too scared of it. While a loose player could have 10 8s or J 8s or 8 8 in his range, that's extremely loose/nuts to raise on the flop, I wouldn't believe it. 7-7 runner-runner is another great outcome. 7-8 on turn and river would be problematic and one of the few hands that costs me more than just the call on the flop. But short: I'm leaning call and pot control/seeing what cards hit on turn and river vs a loose-aggressive player. It gets trickier vs players who are capable of anything/mix up style of play a lot. The final factor: my own image at the table. How likely is it that the opponent confronts my aggressive play with a more aggressive one? What happened before? Was he strong in those situations or not? Did I punish him for being too aggressive? Did I re-raise? Did he fold to it, call, shove? Probably a very minor factor in this situation as the players seem to be pretty deep in stacks/early in the tournament.

A10 of spades doesn't raise there? Or any Pair/Open ended Straight draw/Backdoor Flush combo draw? Without the context i am assuming this guy was just a turbo nit in that case much easier fold and wasn't thinking this deep lol

Right? Lol I couldn't stand him at the last 2 tables at the wsop so annoying.

Agreed. Was hoping he would get knocked out and the announcers were making fun of him as well. If you search him, he was a little rat in a poker session that was aired. Hiding chips.

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@@evanmannion3276 Helmuth is a ring game donkey wtf u on?

"He called with Queen Ten, Hon!"

@@Gruvs33 he went all in with 9,10, 2 pair at wsop and got busted by higher 2 pair at Wsop main event this year. He would've never folded a set. He just wants everyone else he plays to fold to him, so he encourages for everyone else to fold. He isn't fooling us.

he has made big fold before folds that you wouldn’t do, so stfu !!! you are a casual poker player and he made millions playing poker, maybe that reality hurts you 😎 when you match his achievements then you would feel a bit better about yourself 😂😂😂😂😂😂 and no I never read replies 😎

The answer to this one is actually quite simple. King queen raised because he knew that to really had a strong hand especially if you're leading out first to act. You have to think king queen doesn't want to worry about the board pairing and then be put in a bad spot

​​@@JoseSantana-pq3uconly 1 outta 3 times KQo gonna loose to a set on that flop. You don't suppose to play scared man, when odds are in your favor. He should just call imo to extract more value. Alec folded there because that guy is a weak player and he will find better spots to win against him.

Over bet

It's good to know that you would call such a high percentage of the pot more than your equity to pair the board... If you think he has the straight it is an easy fold. That said, I probably would not have given him credit for the straight yet, but then again I have no feel for how the villain has been playing.

The guy must have a reputation as a nit who would only dare raise a bet with the nuts.

You have to think about the reverse implied odds. Not to mention what if he is up against an opponent that had Jack 10 on that board?? And then the turn is another 10 or Jack now it makes it hard to call off with bottom full house.

@@JoseSantana-pq3uc that would be a spot where you are way ahead and worried only about their outs. Right? If you think your opponent is making this move with 2 pair and you are folding your sets you’re gonna lose a lot of money I think…

It's a 3 bet pot. He gets raised on a v wet board after betting out with a player still to act behind. What hands do this? TT, JJ, KQ and I guess JQ might - so you're either beat or running against super high equity. He figured he was behind so he folded

@@samrizza8785 people don't bluff?

@@Tsl4Lf what's a good hand to bluff with in this spot? If you're struggling to think of many, you have to look toward value. Also, you have to map the hand over future streets. What are you doing if another overcard hits? Or an 8? How happy are you continuing? It's a v tight fold, but it's understandable and possibly correct in theory when you take all these factors into account

@samrizza8785 I still don't get why you fold such a strong hand unless you knew somehow he was 100% beat.

@@Tsl4Lf and he’s not even 100% beat here. Bad fold

Does anyone look upset.... no.... you know why because everyone knows he is just playing with them. There is no one at that table taking any offense to what Phil was saying.

Hellmuth is the best tournament player of all time. Nobody gives him respect even after 17 bracelets

​@@_Coffee4Closersit's not because they think he's playing with them, it's because everyone knows he's a self absorbed moron and nobody at the table respects him

@@BenDover-kb2thhe’s the best NL tournament player of all time and that’s excluding the high roller and super high roller events.

@@_Coffee4Closers Sure they are. They just know that’s what he does. He basically said “Most of you are stupid”. Hellmuth is entertaining as hell and it’s not the end of the world, but he’s being an A$$.

Exactly. Why not see the turn and evaluate?

66 on button in 1/3. Preflop bet to 15, call. Flop is KK6. Check check, turn is Q. Check, I bet 25, he snap raises to like 200. Instafold face up and he’s like what??? Shows KQ. We were pretty deep towards the end of the night, but I wasn’t risking the other 1k+ with bottom boat

Reminds me of the Doug Polk fold w/the same hand and board

Have you ever done similar folds and been wrong?

How do you end up playing a trash hand such as 10-7?

@@fullor9395 maybe bb?

What massive overbet?

A good player might have made the same bet on a semi bluff.... it is just polarization sizing.

3x is a massive overbet?

It’s a shame for everybody else that you haven’t played in years if you think a 3x flop raise is a “massive overbet” lol

agreed. This is the only negative thing I see about Torelli and yet ppl hate him. I dont get it.

He doesn’t get to see the opponent’s hole cards when he is at the table, so he doesn’t know he has 35%. He could be drawing to 1 out for all he knows.

Straight draw is not raising. Bigger set most likely or maybe 2 pair

@@Dialectic42 yeah I know how it works. I’m saying that when you have a set you have at least 35% against everything other than a bigger set..

@@CurleyJeffersonS Really +35% against a potential straight or flush??!!!

Where does Phil get all his gambling money from because it surely can't be from poker....

@@bo3iii He still has a few lucrative endorsements under his belt, I'm sure.

@@willvella3043 My comment was sarcasm. Phil has won around $1.3M this year alone after deducting his buy-ins.

@@bo3iii Gotcha...but Helmuth is still a blowhard and a tool.

He's not an angler. Polk made you believe that. Don't be so gullible

@@ribletroblet there was and is plenty of content on what took place, outside of Doug’s videos. Dude is a worm and annoying even if he didn’t angle.

Because his opponent may have had 10-J and his 9’s full would have lost. The point is he knew the only hand that he beats that raises there (possibly raises) is 10-J. Good lay down.

Folded a three 9s to the nut straight. But if he calls and the board pairs he wins

@@Goldensimba815 why did he fold 3 9's?

If he could see the straight he’s up against… what if he’s up against TT or JJ?

Then hè shouldn’t play 99 to hit set and then fold