Agreed! Gone immediately. Also, the argumentative, out of control, poor losers who attack other players and how they played their hand. Man up or get kicked out, no exceptions.
@@janehedgehog1016 well i started playing in 2002 read tons of books my first year and after Chris won the ME. Tons of fish started playing. I was no shark but the difference in skill of the average table was very noticeable. Now its not the same but plenty of bad players out there that make good games easy to find
I didn't know these two were such good friends. I've seen them play against each other a ton, but didn't know they'd call one another after bad beats and such.
Cream rises to the top where Barry and Phil deserve to be. Rare treat watching these gentlemen play, even if just on TV. These interviews are priceless. Thank you so much for everything you both do and stand for.
This was such a great interview. I started playing myself in 02 and Ivey was the man we all wanted to emulate and was blown away by in the "early" days (speaking from my generation, no shade thrown to the earlier legends), with you Barry always being the solid player that I looked up to and of course went through Ace on the River cover to cover many times. It's just amazing so many years later to look at this interview, with polar opposite playstyles but both making it, knowing all you guys' Bobbys room history and all that. Just a great piece having Ìvey open up like this and that phonecall you brought up. Him justifying taking a card of the flop with his 99 vs AQ Moneymaker hand (which intuitively seemed right to me as well for different reasons). Just a gold episode, can't express enough how much I enjoyed it. Insane cooler but still fun to hear both you guys talk about it.
@@nickmorton2354 I know. People don't talk about him like a legend though. That we'll see that jersey forever is awesome. He was playing in China with an icepack taped to his leg at the end.
Damn man, that is one thing that I have always hated at the table. People who turn on the dealer (for whatever reason) are absolute fucking pricks. I always feel bad when that happens. But I also naturally try to capitalize on players who show their frustrations at the same time. Most players playing 2/5 (live) aren't exactly GTO. At least where I live.
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 i mean it really comes with the job..like daily BS in every other job. Just give a fuck about it and hope you cooler him again🤣🤣
@@getmeoutofsanfrancisco9917 Dealer abuse is one of the reasons I quit being a dealer. And the casino never protected us; they always let the abuser slide. I really got to hating poker players when I was a dealer, and only started enjoying playing poker again when I finally quit.
I was a dealer for 11 years and I obv agree with Phil. But part of me wonders how sincere he is. I know poker staff who have told me Phil isn't the most friendly person
Bumped into Mr. Ivey during vacation years ago at Bellagio, LV on a Wed night, I believe he was on his way to the weekly 3k Buy-In game back then. He was in a big rush but still managed to speak briefly and took a picture with me before literally running off to the poker room. I followed and also saw Gus Hansen and Scotty Nguyen....What a night, and it was the ONLY picture I kept from that ancient phone...Been a fan for decades and counting...
If Ivey would have folded the 99 on the flop, I wouldn't be a professional poker player these days. I'm very thankful for his decision. It changed my life
3:00 Yes!! So good he agrees with this. I’m sick of seeing online sports betting in every TV ad, but I can’t play poker for money online in the US. Nuts! I also agree with his sentiment about rules for not abusing dealers.
The crazy thing is that Ivey losing that hand to Moneymaker probably made Ivey tens of millions of dollars more in the long run than he would have made had he won the hand.
I sometimes forget how far poker strategy has come since 2004. The best to ever do it putting his opponent on exactly AQ and calling to try and hit his 2 outer on the turn is pretty funny.
Phil Ivey is the "Tiger Woods" of poker - I would love to see a program with both of them together playing golf and having a chat - that wd be great viewing and bring big ratings :)
Have an option to play with a shot clock. One reason I got out of poker is when I started playing bigger everyone started taking several minutes on every decision to the point I just couldn't take it.
@@mak.lee_pnw5098 If you actually watch the video, dummy, you will see they talk at length about changes to the game to make it better for recreational players.
Totally agree with Ivey on not regretting past decisions. Put it like this, your past self was doing the best it could to make the correct decision in the moment, there are all sorts of mitigating factors that will play into the decision making process at the time, not least of which previous hands.... so there is no point being overly critical of ones decisions, you should instead try to learn from it, not regret or criticize yourself but work out how you may have been more or less objective in the moment. Often times you'll realise though there is nothing you could have done better, you have to be thinking about the situation playing out many times and not be results orientated. I am a trader and the exact same process is present on reflection of past trades. There is nothing wrong with analysing and working out how or if you could do better next time but never regret a decision you made, it just isn't constructive. It's overly critical to your past self and your mind is a sensitive construct it can just rebel if beaten up too much, which can lead to analysis paralysis. Would you criticize someone else for a decision they made that cost them dearly, probably not unless you're an unempathetic and highly critical person, and you should treat yourself with the same respect.
Oh man......if Moneymaker lost on that river, Ivey would have probably won the 2003 Main Event for $2.5 Million. Instead, Ivey lost the hand and poker exploded, probably netting Ivey at least $50 Million in cash game action.
The movie 'Rounders' was the linchpin of poker exploding. It was a slow burn as the movie bombed in theaters and really took off in 2002 with a inspirational cult following.
No other game out of all the poker games blew-up. I would love for my local poker room to have something different. I don't care what. Omaha is just 4 instead of 2. There's so many more WTF. 5 card double draw is now a game in the pit. Doesn't count. Lets play poker. All kinds, im not gonna sit here and start naming off games. You know what they are.
Watching the poker vids, training the game all while listening to music that makes me sharp and able to achieve. I like Delta Parole, AFi, etc as music, what you guys listen to focus I am curious?
Music is reaaally annoying. Don't add music to everything like that, it's obnoxious af. That being said thanks for the interview. Ivey is such a smart and decent guy.
Barry is a smooth operator as well. Underrated by some I think. I remember watching Dwan catch a flush against Barry AA for a mil on high stakes poker. Another bad beat. Dwan had more outs than money maker did with the Ivey hand but still bad none the less.
I agree with Phil. What happened in that moment was suppose to happen. Also think about the millions that Phil ended up winning because of the poker boom. If Moneymaker had not won the tournament would the poker boom have happened? That might not be a fair or correct question either. I think the poker boom would have happened, but with Moneymaker winning it happened a whole lot sooner. It was literally an over night boom once he won. The long term effect of it that all of the known and established poker professions benefitted from it was pretty significant.
Barry: “I would not have called the flop" Hmm, QQ6 flop and Phil was holding 99; Money Maker only bet 1/3 pot; Phil made a good call. Barry is great, but % sides with Phil's call there.
of course you call once and reevaluate on the turn. if he doesnt hit that 9 he can fold. he got all the chips in good and thats all u can do as a poker player.
It was 3 handed on flop so fold is probably best. If 2 handed it's a def call with a backdoor flush draw. But it seems like Ivey had thought Moneymaker's range was face up so played an exploitable strategy.
Some dealers are horrible in many ways!!!!!!!! I blame my if its a bad play on me or im up against a donk 🤣🤣🤣... At most ill blame the machine unless it's a dealer error caused by not paying attention nor doing their job! But I still agree to a certain extent!
@@iHeavnx It helped Ivey get better and more critical v winning and not getting as good as fast as he did. He "solved the game" better after and made more than he lost. I think that's what op meant.
Ivey might have lost that hand 99 vs AQ - he ultimately may have gone on to win the Main Event had it held, but the outcome was undoubtedly more lucrative. Moneymaker, the man with the PERFECT name for poker, goes on to win coupled with his cinderella story of turning a satellite seat into $2.5M. This adds jet fuel to the poker boom fire and it explodes. Ivey would go on to become a partner in start-up Full Tilt Poker and make $800k/mo as an owner in distributions plus another $20M+ in online winnings.
Been a dealer for 15 years while these dont dealer abuse, they do some stuff. Was dealing to Ivey and he hit a bad down swing during my 30min in the box. Lots of strong 2nd place hands that went to showdown. After his 3rd big river loss he just stared daggers at me. That was awkward lol. Barry won a huge pot in razz, his hand was tabled while everyone else's was mucked. Was trying to push him the pot but his cards were in the way. So i grabbed them to move to the side, and he snatched it out of my hands and said to never move it. So i pushed him this giant pot and fished his cards out of that messy pile. Still love these 2.
I understand the logic, but his was the only tabled hand. Its not like I can push it to anyone else. Hes just being a stickler, when it wasnt warranted.
*Interviewer asks him a question* *Phil Ivey answers. Asks interviewer his thoughts* “Oh it’s a hypothetical why even answer those types of questions nothing will ever change” Um why tf ask him then
on the subject of dealers in poker, a LOT of people don't understand that dealers play a HUGE role in collusion in poker, yes the casinos give each dealer about ten minutes per table to limit any damage they could do "If" they're colluding but ten minutes is a s#@t ton of time to do a s#@t ton of damage for a LOT of money. Online poker unfortunately and I saw this so much back when I played poker online is that poker sites just like any other site can be hacked and they WERE hacked on many many occasions and that alone is what played maybe 98% of why online poker is illegal now. I know some casinos have beefed up their security to the point where nobody can twitch their nose without it being caught on camera and someone saying "Is he cheating?" and yes they will do something about it even if it was just an innocent twitch, they'll still do something. Smart Devices of any kind and head and ear pieces of any kind should be banned completely from poker and yes sunglasses hats should be banned from poker forever