Phil Jackson on Michael Jordan in conversation with John Salley (Live Talks Los Angeles 

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@@Bluebirdfalling Who do you think the GOAT is?

@@zinnn.8842 Wilt is the GOAT. WIlt is tied with MJ in points per game and is #1 in rebounds. Wilt also has the highest points per game season and rebounds per game. 37? laugh, Wilt had 50. MJ never once was the best shooter. Wilt was. And no, Wilt did not just dunk the ball, most of his shots were fadeway jumpers.

You forgot shaq. A man he enjoyed playing with.

Robert Horry played Hakeem Duncan Shaq

@@2005mssmsm what does that have to do with anything

What a life to live

All true, Sal was a super role player. You need guys like that to win, great coaches understand this. Rodman, Draymond Green type guys, Charles Oakey, and Ben Wallace. They may not light up a score board, but they contribute in ways you cant see.

Jerry west.. but he also says MJ is the goat

Kobe is definitely not in that conversation

@@user-ir3th6fd8g how could you possibly say kobe is not in the goat conversation he was the closest thing to Jordan but you have your opinion

@@user-ir3th6fd8g Kobe is thee most skilled player in NBA history. How the hell he’s not in the GOAT conversation?

@@darioja2469 thats not even true how you figure he is more skilled than mj or KD just because you hear people say that dont make it facts kobe is not top 10 he is top 15 but not in the goat convo

Phil coach both Kobe and MJ so he doesn't one to really put one over the other but he knows MJ to him is the greatest. Kobe lost him two titles. He's undefeated with MJ and knows if he had MJ in 94-95 chances are he would have a four or five peat with MJ.

@@supratrd900 True he Loves both Jordan & kobe period

@@supratrd900 I think they’ve won 8 straight.

Lefrauds gonna quit. He'll rob a mud on Phils legacy. He still switches teams for super teams till this day and still falls short on achievements. He's good at trading his teammates behind their back wow dude might trade his son too lol

​@@afambasil753uhhhhhh!🤭 touchy about something???

Lebron would not win more even w/ Phil. the problem is Lebron himself. he doesn't want to be coached. that's the reason he jump from one team to another. Lebron cold have won more at Miami, a super team and a champion team already. specially under Pat Riley. don't you know why he left?, coz he want the coach fired! imagine the audacity.. he went to Miami to win chips, when he can only have 2 out of 4, he then demanded the organization under Pat to fire the coach. im sorry but if anything, LBJ hasn't accomplished anything solid to this day but stats padding...

or phil got his coaching career's first and probably last layoff by the real ceo

Lebron's gonna cry because Phil wouldn't trust him with final and winning shots, remember Pippen said he was lebron before lebron james haha

Wilt was GOD!!!

@@llwells1 wilt chamberlain Choked in the championships.not a God a legend

@@mikemills8568 He was always too gentle of a giant. Dudes should've been scared to get in his way, but they knew if they took some charges from him, HE would back off. Wilt should've broke some bodies! They wouldn't be so quick to get in his way after he runs over them! He didn't want to hurt no one tho.

me?

@@nomadcompany That's what I understood

theres a me in team

“Yeah but there’s an ME in that mother fucker” - Kobe

@@drewtap You beat me to it

Dr J's flare and athleticism was MJ's blueprint, and MJ became Kobe's, D-Wade's, LeBron's, and others after him. MJ was the best in his era. He was a beast. He was the most athletic player, and one of the tallest at his position in that time. Aside from Drexler (Devin Booker), Steve Smith (DeMar DeRozan), Kendall Gill (Zach Levine), Reggie Miller (Rat Allen), competition was either too small or if they were taller and bigger, they moved like Frankensteins outside of the paint and he'd blow by them. In past eras where he'd have countless players who could match him step for step, similarly athletic despite their sizes with the best players in the league being bigger and taller in stature (KD, LeBron, Antetekumpo, Dirk, Kawhi, Kobe, Harden and even players closer to his stature like Ginobli, Devin Booker, Westbrook, D-Wade, Steph, Kobe, Klay, T-Mac, Jimmy Butler, D-Rose, Lillard), giving a defense playing MJ problems that he didn't have to worry about in his era on a nightly basis. Not saying MJ wouldn't have given eras after his problems as well, but objectively speaking it's small sighted to say that because MJ dominated an era that didn't have players as versitile and talented as players after his era, he's still the GOAT.

@@mobetta2092 -- You have to remember a couple of other things too. In the 80's and 90's, there were True Center and PF's. The 90's was voted the "Era of the Big Man" by either SC or ESPN, can't remember which. They compared Era's and the 90's was voted #1. That means that when Jordan drove to the Basket, he had Oakley and Ewing in their primes, at their Peaks, waiting for him. Then the next night, he had Hakeem waiting for him. Another game, Mutombo right there waiting for him. Next game, D.Robinson. Another game, Rodman and Laimbeer. Back then, Defense was still allowed. In today's NBA, Jordan would average MORE points. Defense has been BANNED. In today's game, players are not even allowed to Touch the player on offense! Add that to the fact that the Post is void of true "Big Men" of the past. All the post players of today are on the perimeter, so it would be a Paradise for a Player like Jordan. You can't touch him.......AND the post is all alone! OMG. Because defense has been banned, today's game is paced so much faster. Because of that, teams are averaging 25 more shots per game. Can you imagine Jordan with 12+ more shots in a league with no defense and no bigs???? Jordan's scoring average goes beyond 45+ ppg while still winning titles. You put ANY player from back in the day in today's game, their scoring average also goes up. Imagine Dr. J in today's game. Even players like Chris Mullin would go up at least one tier.

@@MasterSpade certainly the 80s and 90s were the eras of the big men, no arguments there. Jordan was ahead of his time, which is no knock on him. That just goes to my point of how perimeter players weren't as competitive for MJ as perimeter players would be for him today. Bigs were the best players and they were like lumbering Frankensteins who were no threat whatsoever outside of the paint. By the time MJ was on his way to the basket they had little to no options. In this era, MJ would have his work cut out for him with players who'd make him work on the defensive end and bigs are more athletic. Not saying MJ would be shutdown, but he wouldn't be as dominant as he was in his era....too small.

@@mobetta2092 -- Jordan, along with everyone else from back then, would be MORE Dominant in today's NBA. Back then, players were allowed to play Defense, and even "Thug Ball". Go watch videos of MJ getting past Dumars, then dunking on Rodman and Laimbeer. All while they were raping him. If he can score 30+ppg in a Thug Ball league, imagine in today's NBA where defenders...........are not allowed to defend. They seriously cannot even TOUCH the player on Offense. The only time players of today hit the floor is when they Flop! Today's NBA is nothing more than a 3pt shooting contest where Defense has been banned. Imagine putting Harden or Durant in the league in that 1984 Draft. Have them play the Bad Boys. Have them play those knicks teams. Have them play the pacers with the Davis brothers. They'd cry "toto....I don't think we're in our soft NBA anymore". Now, put players that were not Superstar players back then, but were good players, in today's league. Players like Toni Kukoc, Detlef Schrempf, and Arvydas Sabonis. They would thrive in today's league. They were used to playing this style. They would go up at least 1 tier as players. They weren't too good at Defense, but today's league doesn't allow that anyway. Bottom line, the league needs to bring back DEFENSE. At the very least, allow Hand-Checking. I'm not advocating to bring back "Thug Ball", but real true Defense. Until then, the NBA has become unwatchable.

@@MasterSpade there were lot of big men, but mostly dormant.. let that sink in.

Is it about the NY Knicks?

He has

His bags are already packed 🤣 He doesn't need more money

Frostshokula - nobody cares about scoring titles except delusional fans, who think scoring titles have some kind of divine, special meaning. So please explain to us why a scoring title is so special.

@@adolphdooley3632 you're the one who is delusional. In basketball, winners are determined by which team scored higher at the end of regulation. Obviously, a scoring champ or title indicates a player's ability to score. Although, it doesn't always translate to winning the chip. Unfortunately for LeFraud's fans, MJ won 10 scoring tittles in 11 full seasons with the Bulls, 6 of those are during his 6 rings and 6 FMVPs. 9 of those scoring tittles, he also won 1st defensive awards, simply proves he's as great on offense as on defense. Compared to LeBum's only 1 scoring title, MJ is definitely on a different stratosphere.

@@adolphdooley3632 if you need a explanation of why being the best scorer in a league of the best players the you need to stop watching basketball. The point of the game is to score more points than anyone.

incredible916 - MJ fan Clowns like to boast about MJ’s scoring titles he’s won, but nobody cares about scoring titles but Clowns! All of you MJ fan Clowns, need to quit Clowning around. You Clowns hate LeBron James for being such a great player. A bunch of Clown player haters. Nobody cares about scoring titles but Clowns!

Adolph Dooley This dude probably values scoring less than assists (the most overrated stat in the game) Name another good stat that a high school point guard could easily get in the NBA.

lol XD

Where did Phil Jordan go?

Get that Michael Jackson nonsense outta here.

Wtf 😍😝

@J J MJ 23, you know I'm Bad, I'm Bad......and the whole world got the answer right now just to tell you once again I'm Bad.

wow amazing alrighty then

He was a good ego manager..I wouldn’t call him a great Xs and Os coach. He only won with the best players ever

Once upon a time there was a guy named Kawhi...

nope.

Nope, Wilt is the GOAT.

Totally agreed. I've said this in most channel. When I watched MJ saying to Phil, "I never gave up, I never gave up..." in the last episode of winning his last final, I swear it's so inspirational I had chills. This is the greatness mentality that not any 'great player' could ever achieved. #MJ the 🐐

@@mrloop1530 vice versa

​@@jeypo85 it was also raw. Just plain what mj and Phil said

He can help you solve your problem, he helped me bring my ex-lover back

It is a clip from this longer video also in the channel, but here it is: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LhsJde3W1Qc.html

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I just wish he turned out to be even 1/2 GOAT team president.

@@spinedoc18 Not everyone can achieve what Jerry West did - be succesfull on both roles . Even MJ was unable to get it right.

@@spinedoc18 Micheal is a bum chairman but he is the goat of basketball

oh yeah? bwahhaaaahahahhaaa. wow.

Bird and Magic had better teams out of the gate. Check all of their teammates as rookies.

Bird and magic came in with hall of famer teammates Jordan came in with no all stars stop it

He needs to acknowledge JORDAN as the GOAT! Rodman already has!

@@emedina73 All day. I agree. He gives that credit to Pippen. Pip is top ten in my book but even Pip will tell you MJ reigns supreme.

I agree! I also think Bird was better then LBJ. His new highlight video is great.

media propaganda

As great as Kobe was, after 3-peating while still a young and healthy player, the Kobe led Lakers teams went through seasons where they were nearly punching bags of the league. After his 2nd season, whenever LeBron was healthy, no matter the personnel, his team was never in the bottoms.

@@mobetta2092 Yeah Kobe 3peated at 22 years of age. #lmao. Kobe's lakers went through a dry period after shack left from 2005 to 2007. Thats 3 years of not making the Finals. In 2008, Kobe was back in the Finals yet again and won again in 2009 & 2010 to add to his WINNING FINALS RECORD of 5-2. Thats 5 Championships. Lebron only has 4 with a Losing Finals Record. Kobe has a 3peat and Lebron has No 3peat. Kobe has a Dynasty and Lebron has No Dynasty. #lmao

@@jaydubb2005 this. As good as lebron is, he never seems to take the team on his shoulders unless he has great teammates to make him look better. Kobe never was afraid of dragging his team to the win in any way, and he was willing to fight his way to the top instead of trade to it

Harper, Jordan, Pippen, Rodman, Shaq. That'd be an even more unstoppable team than they already were

Z Moe they would have been unstoppable for sure but I think Shaq would of taken away some of mj’s greatness

@@clam741 nah, the best way to compliment a good shooting guard is to have a good center...MJ would've averaged more points and gotten more assists.

Bulls lost a coin toss for rights to draft Magic. Rod Thorn usually called "tails" out of basketball superstition but that night he called "heads" and the Lakers ended up getting the greatest point guard of all time

He did not need him. He got the best companion Scottie Pippen.He is also one of the best player of all time.

How? Lebron has more points than him.

signor pops lebron has more trips to the finals too right thats why hes goat :P

Charles Tan yes but to be the greatest you never should lost a finals appearance. And MJ did that. Simple. Period. Lol! Your QUEEN also started younger. Any logic? Lol

MJ accepted the triangle offense because of Phil.

phil made MJ a winner. players put up stats, teams put up banners.

Yudo NeidaNo well Phil without MJ didnt put up any banner until MJ came back. Lol Phil and the Bulls were 31-34 in 95 before MJ came back

@@ealicer81 phil needed players around him just like jordan did. jordan would have been the best player in the league with or without phil. what phil gave to jordan was the know-how to win and to get the most out of his team mates by actually trusting them to play their role. at the end of the day, you can't win by yourself.

I disagree. MJ would have been great regardless. But these 2 teaming up maxed out both of their abilities as coach and player.The Perfect storm for dominance.

I think you misunderstood what Phil said. Phil was talking about MJ's teammates, not MJ.

Good argument.

All day.

Without the triangle they dont have 6 rings

Before Phil Jackson MJ led teams couldn’t get out of the first round in the playoff. There is a reason why MJ is known for only 6 years of his career 15 year NBA career.

How many rings Phil won as a coach before getting Michael? Zero.

@@Hinshu85 Phil didn't get Michael. Michael and Scottie were already on the Bulls and Phil was an assistant before being promoted to HC after Doug Collins was let go.

Jordan's first MVP season came in 1988 (Before Phil Headchoaching the Bulls). He led the Chicago Bulls to a 50-win season. He played all 82 games, led the league in scoring (35.0 points), minutes (40.4), and steals (3.2). He became the first player to ever win the MVP and DPOY award the same season.

@@arielgarcia2642 Yes he was a great player before Phil. No doubt inner circle HOF trajectory. But Phil helped him become the GOAT.

@@iloveresses7277 No doubt my man. I was just point it out.

Wtf

Why? Messi doesn’t have World Cup. Neither does C Ronaldo. Maradona only has one. Doesn’t mean they can’t be seen as one of the best or the goat. Same with basketball. MJ has 2 Olympic golds which is once every 4 years. If he wanted to be on the 1996 team, he would have been. He won an NCAA title. Team trophies is different to individual awards and MJ has more