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Philip Pullman & Philip Goff in conversation: Galileo's Error, consciousness & philosophy 

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Philip Goff, a leading philosopher of mind, and His Dark Materials author Philip Pullman discuss a radically new picture of consciousness - panpsychism - and its relation to literature.
Galileo's Error: amzn.to/2PUj1Wj | The Secret Commonwealth : amzn.to/2K1g5n4
Understanding how brains produce consciousness is one of the great scientific challenges of our age. Some philosophers argue that consciousness is something “extra,” beyond the physical workings of the brain. Others think that if we persist in our standard scientific methods, our questions about consciousness will eventually be answered. Some even suggest that the mystery is so deep that it will never be solved. Decades have been spent in trying to explain consciousness from within our current scientific paradigm, but little progress has been made.
Now, Philip Goff offers an exciting alternative that could pave the way forward. Rooted in an analysis of the philosophical underpinnings of modern science and based on the early 20th century work of Arthur Eddington and Bertrand Russell, Goff makes the case for panpsychism, a theory which posits that consciousness is not confined to biological entities but is a fundamental feature of all physical matter-from subatomic particles to the human brain. In Galileo's Error, he has taken the first step on a new path toward the final theory of human consciousness.
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Philip Pullman is one of the most highly respected children's authors writing today. Winner of many prestigious awards, including the Carnegie of Carnegies and the Whitbread Award, Pullman’s epic fantasy trilogy His Dark Materials has been acclaimed as a modern classic. It has sold 17.5 million copies worldwide and been translated into 40 languages. In 2005 he was awarded the Astrid Lindgren Memorial Award.
The Secret Commonwealth is truly a book for our times; a powerful adventure and a thought-provoking look at what it is to understand yourself, to grow up and make sense of the world around you. This is storytelling at its very best from one of our greatest writers.
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@WillFrancis
@WillFrancis 4 года назад
Love how the host checks he is in fact experiencing consciousness from 0:00:39 😂
@luke28
@luke28 4 года назад
I love this concept; creating a crossover between philosophy/science and literature/fiction. Highly interesting, would love to see more of these kind of videos!
@bookchaser1103
@bookchaser1103 4 года назад
Definitely more! Love these two gentlemen!
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
anything but the religious explanation?
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
Artists make things look beautiful, and create valuable communication.
@HeyItsKora
@HeyItsKora 4 года назад
ended up skipping the potential spoiler and watched the whole thing. oh wow... what a wonderful discussion between two fascinating characters. I love Philip Pullman so much, I'm so in awe of him when he talks... I hope to meet him someday. Maybe at the release of the third BoD book I can head over to Oxford and catch him at a talk or a book signing... Ohh how that'd be a moment to treasure...
@lyndao7356
@lyndao7356 4 года назад
Wowee. I'm so grateful to have found this, I've been skirting around the consciousness, materialist, quantitative \qualitative business for a very long time and hoping someone would put it together like this. (I'm a hobbyist in the field; no credentials at all) It's beautifully described by Pullman and Goff. Lots more to discover of course but this is what I've been waiting for. Thank you! All respect.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
🐟 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: Consciousness means “that which knows” or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). There is BOTH a localized knowing and a Universal Awareness, as explicated in the following paragraphs. Higher species of animal life have sufficient cognitive ability to know themselves and their environment, at least to a measurable degree. HOWEVER, in recent years, the term has been used in esoteric spiritual circles (usually capitalised) to refer to a far more Universal Consciousness (“puruṣa”, in Sanskrit), due to the fact that the English language doesn’t include a single word denoting the universal Ground of Being (for instance “Brahman”, “Tao”, in other tongues). The word “Awareness” (capitalized) is arguably a more apposite term for this concept. The typical person believes that the apparatus which knows the external world is his mind (via the five senses), but more perceptive individuals understand that the mind itself is cognizable by the intellect. Wise souls recognize that the sense of self (the pseudo-ego) is the perceiver of their intellects, whereas awakened persons have realized that the true self/Self is the witness of ALL these temporal phenomena. The true self is synonymous with Consciousness, or with Infinite Awareness, or the Undifferentiated Unified Field (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit). The Tao (The Reality [lit. The Way]) which can be expressed in language is not the REAL Tao. All concepts are, by nature, relative, and at most, can merely point to the Absolute. That explains why some branches of theology use the apophatic method of discerning The Infinite (“neti neti”, [not this, not that], in Sanskrit). Also known in Latin as “via negativa” or “via negationis” theology, this philosophical approach to discovering the essential nature of Reality, gradually negates each description about Ultimate Reality, but not Reality Itself. The brain is merely a conduit or TRANSDUCER of Universal Consciousness, explaining why the more intelligent the animal, the more it can understand its own existence (or at least be aware of more of its environment - just see how amazingly-complex dolphin behaviour can be, compared with other aquatic species), and the reason why it is asserted that a truly enlightened human must possess a far higher level of intelligence than the average person. See Chapter 17 to understand the distinction between enlightenment and mere awakening. The brain is COMPARATIVELY equivalent to computer hardware, Universal Awareness is akin to the operating system, whilst individuated consciousness is analogous to the software programme, using deoxyribonucleic acid as the memory chip. A person who is comatosed has lost any semblance of personal consciousness, yet is being kept alive by the presence of Universal Consciousness (here, the word “coma” is not to be taken by its etymological definition of “deep sleep”, but the medical condition of a persistent vegetative state). An apt analogy for Universal Consciousness is the manner in which electricity powers a variety of appliances and gadgets, according to the use and COMPLEXITY of the said device. Electricity powers a washing machine in a very simple manner, to drive a large spindle for laundering clothes. However, the very same electrical power may be used to operate a computer to manifest an astonishing range of outputs, such as playing audiovisual tracks, communication tasks and performing extremely advanced mathematical computations, depending on the computer's software and hardware. The more advanced/complex the device, the more complex its manifestation of the same electricity. So, then, one could complain: “That's not fair - why can only a genius be enlightened?” (as defined in Chapter 17). The answer is: first of all, as stated above, every species of animal has its own level of intelligence on a wide-ranging scale. Therefore, a pig or a dog could (if possible) ask: “That's unfair - why can only a human being be enlightened?” Secondly, it is INDEED a fact that life is unfair, because there is no “tit for tat” law of action and reaction, even if many supposedly-great religious preceptors have stated so. They said so because they were preaching to wicked miscreants who refused to quit their evil ways, and needed to be chastized in a forceful manner. It is not possible to speak gentle words to a rabid dog to prevent it from biting you. There is evidence of Consciousness being a universal field, in SAVANT SYNDROME, a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrate certain abilities far in excess of the norm, such as superhuman rapid mathematical calculation, mind-reading, blind-seeing, or astounding musical aptitude. Such behaviour suggests that there is a universal field (possibly in holographic form) from which one can access information. Even simple artistic inspiration could be attributed to this phenomenon. The great British singer-songwriter, Sir James Paul McCartney, one day woke with the complete tune of the song, “Yesterday”, in his mind, after hearing it in a dream. American composer, Paul Simon, had a similar experience when the chorus of his sublime masterpiece, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, simply popped into his head. Three states of awareness are experienced by humans and possibly all other species of mammals: the waking state (“jāgrata”, in Sanskrit), dreaming (“svapna”, in Sanskrit), and deep-sleep (“suṣupti”, in Sanskrit). Beyond these three temporal states is the fourth 'state' (“turīya” or “caturīya”, in Sanskrit). That is the unconditioned, eternal 'state', which underlies the other three. So, in actual fact, the fourth state is not a state, but the Unconditioned Ground of Being (or to put it simply, YOU, the real self/Self). Perhaps the main purpose of dreams is so that we can understand that the waking-state is practically indistinguishable to the dream-state, and thereby come to see the ILLUSION of this ephemeral world. Both our waking-state experiences and our dream-state experiences occur solely within the mental faculties (refer to Chapter 04 for an elucidation of this phenomenon). If somebody in one of your dreams were to ask your dream-state character if the dream was real, you (playing the part of that character) would most likely say, “yes, of course this is real!”. Similarly, if someone were to ask your waking-state character if this world is real, you would almost undoubtedly respond in kind. The Ultimate Reality (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) alone is real - 'real' in the sense that it is the never-mutable substratum of ALL existence. The wisest of the sages of ancient India distinguished the 'real' from the 'unreal' (“sat/asat”, in Sanskrit) by whether or not the 'thing' was eternal or temporal (Cf. Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 1:3:28, Bhagavad-gītā 2:16, et altri). Gross material objects (such as one's own body) and subtle material objects (such as thoughts) are always changing, and therefore not 'real'. Reality is clearly seen by those self-realized persons who have experienced spiritual awakenings, yet only intellectually understood by those who have merely studied spiritual topics (that is, those who have practiced one of the four systems of religion described in Chapter 16). “Consciousness must first be there, before anything else can BE. All inquiry of the seeker of truth, must therefore, relate to this consciousness, this sense of conscious presence, which as such, has no personal reference to any individual.” ************* “Insofar as you keep watching the mind and discover yourself as its witness, nothing else can project itself on the screen of consciousness. This is so, because two things cannot occupy the attention, at the same moment. Therefore, delve within and find out where thoughts arise. Seek the source of all thought and acquire the Self-knowledge, which is the awakening of Truth.” ************* “If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state. This is abolished in the dream state. The dream state disappears, when you are in deep sleep. The three states come and go, but you are always there. Your real state, that of Consciousness itself, continues to exist always and forever and it is the only Reality.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Spirit. This Spirit is the matrix of all matter.” ************* “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, German Theoretical Physicist.
@philippullman2091
@philippullman2091 3 года назад
I appreciate you for being a big fan. it means alot to me . I want you to send me a direct message via Hangouts using my personal email that will be indicated below. Also endeavor to add your name to the text so I can know you are the one texting because I don't respond unnecessary messages. Hangouts mail: brinkbernhard35@gmail.com
@TommyLikeTom
@TommyLikeTom 4 года назад
I also said the problem of consciousness was irresolvable in my final philosophy paper but I got good marks for it and it was actually one of the possible choices for us, so things have changed. I don't know if anyone here has taken LSD but my experience on it was that I was an avatar of a spirit who chose my life as a specific challenge, and that it was my job to overcome my shortcomings or face the consequences.
@lisaa3082
@lisaa3082 4 года назад
Was lucky to be lectured by Philip Goff at the University of Liverpool a number of years back.
@miiketookit
@miiketookit 3 года назад
That is awesome. How was that? (apologies for asking ten months later haha)
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
Lmao
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
Dear Philip, look into the work of Dan Winter. A cross section of our DNA braiding looks like a rose! Waiting ever so keenly for your next book.
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
Believe anything, consider everything, deny nothing, poetry can be consciousness breaking through, in spite of ego.
@valq10
@valq10 4 года назад
If consciousness is illusion then what is being tricked? Dennett's view isn't even a coherent hypothesis.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
🐟 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: Consciousness means “that which knows” or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). There is BOTH a localized knowing and a Universal Awareness, as explicated in the following paragraphs. Higher species of animal life have sufficient cognitive ability to know themselves and their environment, at least to a measurable degree. HOWEVER, in recent years, the term has been used in esoteric spiritual circles (usually capitalised) to refer to a far more Universal Consciousness (“puruṣa”, in Sanskrit), due to the fact that the English language doesn’t include a single word denoting the universal Ground of Being (for instance “Brahman”, “Tao”, in other tongues). The word “Awareness” (capitalized) is arguably a more apposite term for this concept. The typical person believes that the apparatus which knows the external world is his mind (via the five senses), but more perceptive individuals understand that the mind itself is cognizable by the intellect. Wise souls recognize that the sense of self (the pseudo-ego) is the perceiver of their intellects, whereas awakened persons have realized that the true self/Self is the witness of ALL these temporal phenomena. The true self is synonymous with Consciousness, or with Infinite Awareness, or the Undifferentiated Unified Field (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit). The Tao (The Reality [lit. The Way]) which can be expressed in language is not the REAL Tao. All concepts are, by nature, relative, and at most, can merely point to the Absolute. That explains why some branches of theology use the apophatic method of discerning The Infinite (“neti neti”, [not this, not that], in Sanskrit). Also known in Latin as “via negativa” or “via negationis” theology, this philosophical approach to discovering the essential nature of Reality, gradually negates each description about Ultimate Reality, but not Reality Itself. The brain is merely a conduit or TRANSDUCER of Universal Consciousness, explaining why the more intelligent the animal, the more it can understand its own existence (or at least be aware of more of its environment - just see how amazingly-complex dolphin behaviour can be, compared with other aquatic species), and the reason why it is asserted that a truly enlightened human must possess a far higher level of intelligence than the average person. See Chapter 17 to understand the distinction between enlightenment and mere awakening. The brain is COMPARATIVELY equivalent to computer hardware, Universal Awareness is akin to the operating system, whilst individuated consciousness is analogous to the software programme, using deoxyribonucleic acid as the memory chip. A person who is comatosed has lost any semblance of personal consciousness, yet is being kept alive by the presence of Universal Consciousness (here, the word “coma” is not to be taken by its etymological definition of “deep sleep”, but the medical condition of a persistent vegetative state). An apt analogy for Universal Consciousness is the manner in which electricity powers a variety of appliances and gadgets, according to the use and COMPLEXITY of the said device. Electricity powers a washing machine in a very simple manner, to drive a large spindle for laundering clothes. However, the very same electrical power may be used to operate a computer to manifest an astonishing range of outputs, such as playing audiovisual tracks, communication tasks and performing extremely advanced mathematical computations, depending on the computer's software and hardware. The more advanced/complex the device, the more complex its manifestation of the same electricity. So, then, one could complain: “That's not fair - why can only a genius be enlightened?” (as defined in Chapter 17). The answer is: first of all, as stated above, every species of animal has its own level of intelligence on a wide-ranging scale. Therefore, a pig or a dog could (if possible) ask: “That's unfair - why can only a human being be enlightened?” Secondly, it is INDEED a fact that life is unfair, because there is no “tit for tat” law of action and reaction, even if many supposedly-great religious preceptors have stated so. They said so because they were preaching to wicked miscreants who refused to quit their evil ways, and needed to be chastized in a forceful manner. It is not possible to speak gentle words to a rabid dog to prevent it from biting you. There is evidence of Consciousness being a universal field, in SAVANT SYNDROME, a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrate certain abilities far in excess of the norm, such as superhuman rapid mathematical calculation, mind-reading, blind-seeing, or astounding musical aptitude. Such behaviour suggests that there is a universal field (possibly in holographic form) from which one can access information. Even simple artistic inspiration could be attributed to this phenomenon. The great British singer-songwriter, Sir James Paul McCartney, one day woke with the complete tune of the song, “Yesterday”, in his mind, after hearing it in a dream. American composer, Paul Simon, had a similar experience when the chorus of his sublime masterpiece, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, simply popped into his head. Three states of awareness are experienced by humans and possibly all other species of mammals: the waking state (“jāgrata”, in Sanskrit), dreaming (“svapna”, in Sanskrit), and deep-sleep (“suṣupti”, in Sanskrit). Beyond these three temporal states is the fourth 'state' (“turīya” or “caturīya”, in Sanskrit). That is the unconditioned, eternal 'state', which underlies the other three. So, in actual fact, the fourth state is not a state, but the Unconditioned Ground of Being (or to put it simply, YOU, the real self/Self). Perhaps the main purpose of dreams is so that we can understand that the waking-state is practically indistinguishable to the dream-state, and thereby come to see the ILLUSION of this ephemeral world. Both our waking-state experiences and our dream-state experiences occur solely within the mental faculties (refer to Chapter 04 for an elucidation of this phenomenon). If somebody in one of your dreams were to ask your dream-state character if the dream was real, you (playing the part of that character) would most likely say, “yes, of course this is real!”. Similarly, if someone were to ask your waking-state character if this world is real, you would almost undoubtedly respond in kind. The Ultimate Reality (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) alone is real - 'real' in the sense that it is the never-mutable substratum of ALL existence. The wisest of the sages of ancient India distinguished the 'real' from the 'unreal' (“sat/asat”, in Sanskrit) by whether or not the 'thing' was eternal or temporal (Cf. Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 1:3:28, Bhagavad-gītā 2:16, et altri). Gross material objects (such as one's own body) and subtle material objects (such as thoughts) are always changing, and therefore not 'real'. Reality is clearly seen by those self-realized persons who have experienced spiritual awakenings, yet only intellectually understood by those who have merely studied spiritual topics (that is, those who have practiced one of the four systems of religion described in Chapter 16). “Consciousness must first be there, before anything else can BE. All inquiry of the seeker of truth, must therefore, relate to this consciousness, this sense of conscious presence, which as such, has no personal reference to any individual.” ************* “Insofar as you keep watching the mind and discover yourself as its witness, nothing else can project itself on the screen of consciousness. This is so, because two things cannot occupy the attention, at the same moment. Therefore, delve within and find out where thoughts arise. Seek the source of all thought and acquire the Self-knowledge, which is the awakening of Truth.” ************* “If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state. This is abolished in the dream state. The dream state disappears, when you are in deep sleep. The three states come and go, but you are always there. Your real state, that of Consciousness itself, continues to exist always and forever and it is the only Reality.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Spirit. This Spirit is the matrix of all matter.” ************* “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, German Theoretical Physicist.
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
For interviewer, dust becomes attracted to things through the concentrated attention of the humans or other like beings who interact with. .... consider? Remember in the Amber Spyglass, the Mulefa describe dust to Mary Malone as "like" the reflection of light on water. To me, from that, it seems like minute mirrors of light, flecks of awareness, attracted to matter, by/ through the attention from a conscious being.
@seanwatson9310
@seanwatson9310 3 года назад
Blackwell's! I miss that place!
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
That D friend yes, P nailed it - the psychopathy of the soulless.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
🐟 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: Consciousness means “that which knows” or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). There is BOTH a localized knowing and a Universal Awareness, as explicated in the following paragraphs. Higher species of animal life have sufficient cognitive ability to know themselves and their environment, at least to a measurable degree. HOWEVER, in recent years, the term has been used in esoteric spiritual circles (usually capitalised) to refer to a far more Universal Consciousness (“puruṣa”, in Sanskrit), due to the fact that the English language doesn’t include a single word denoting the universal Ground of Being (for instance “Brahman”, “Tao”, in other tongues). The word “Awareness” (capitalized) is arguably a more apposite term for this concept. The typical person believes that the apparatus which knows the external world is his mind (via the five senses), but more perceptive individuals understand that the mind itself is cognizable by the intellect. Wise souls recognize that the sense of self (the pseudo-ego) is the perceiver of their intellects, whereas awakened persons have realized that the true self/Self is the witness of ALL these temporal phenomena. The true self is synonymous with Consciousness, or with Infinite Awareness, or the Undifferentiated Unified Field (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit). The Tao (The Reality [lit. The Way]) which can be expressed in language is not the REAL Tao. All concepts are, by nature, relative, and at most, can merely point to the Absolute. That explains why some branches of theology use the apophatic method of discerning The Infinite (“neti neti”, [not this, not that], in Sanskrit). Also known in Latin as “via negativa” or “via negationis” theology, this philosophical approach to discovering the essential nature of Reality, gradually negates each description about Ultimate Reality, but not Reality Itself. The brain is merely a conduit or TRANSDUCER of Universal Consciousness, explaining why the more intelligent the animal, the more it can understand its own existence (or at least be aware of more of its environment - just see how amazingly-complex dolphin behaviour can be, compared with other aquatic species), and the reason why it is asserted that a truly enlightened human must possess a far higher level of intelligence than the average person. See Chapter 17 to understand the distinction between enlightenment and mere awakening. The brain is COMPARATIVELY equivalent to computer hardware, Universal Awareness is akin to the operating system, whilst individuated consciousness is analogous to the software programme, using deoxyribonucleic acid as the memory chip. A person who is comatosed has lost any semblance of personal consciousness, yet is being kept alive by the presence of Universal Consciousness (here, the word “coma” is not to be taken by its etymological definition of “deep sleep”, but the medical condition of a persistent vegetative state). An apt analogy for Universal Consciousness is the manner in which electricity powers a variety of appliances and gadgets, according to the use and COMPLEXITY of the said device. Electricity powers a washing machine in a very simple manner, to drive a large spindle for laundering clothes. However, the very same electrical power may be used to operate a computer to manifest an astonishing range of outputs, such as playing audiovisual tracks, communication tasks and performing extremely advanced mathematical computations, depending on the computer's software and hardware. The more advanced/complex the device, the more complex its manifestation of the same electricity. So, then, one could complain: “That's not fair - why can only a genius be enlightened?” (as defined in Chapter 17). The answer is: first of all, as stated above, every species of animal has its own level of intelligence on a wide-ranging scale. Therefore, a pig or a dog could (if possible) ask: “That's unfair - why can only a human being be enlightened?” Secondly, it is INDEED a fact that life is unfair, because there is no “tit for tat” law of action and reaction, even if many supposedly-great religious preceptors have stated so. They said so because they were preaching to wicked miscreants who refused to quit their evil ways, and needed to be chastized in a forceful manner. It is not possible to speak gentle words to a rabid dog to prevent it from biting you. There is evidence of Consciousness being a universal field, in SAVANT SYNDROME, a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrate certain abilities far in excess of the norm, such as superhuman rapid mathematical calculation, mind-reading, blind-seeing, or astounding musical aptitude. Such behaviour suggests that there is a universal field (possibly in holographic form) from which one can access information. Even simple artistic inspiration could be attributed to this phenomenon. The great British singer-songwriter, Sir James Paul McCartney, one day woke with the complete tune of the song, “Yesterday”, in his mind, after hearing it in a dream. American composer, Paul Simon, had a similar experience when the chorus of his sublime masterpiece, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, simply popped into his head. Three states of awareness are experienced by humans and possibly all other species of mammals: the waking state (“jāgrata”, in Sanskrit), dreaming (“svapna”, in Sanskrit), and deep-sleep (“suṣupti”, in Sanskrit). Beyond these three temporal states is the fourth 'state' (“turīya” or “caturīya”, in Sanskrit). That is the unconditioned, eternal 'state', which underlies the other three. So, in actual fact, the fourth state is not a state, but the Unconditioned Ground of Being (or to put it simply, YOU, the real self/Self). Perhaps the main purpose of dreams is so that we can understand that the waking-state is practically indistinguishable to the dream-state, and thereby come to see the ILLUSION of this ephemeral world. Both our waking-state experiences and our dream-state experiences occur solely within the mental faculties (refer to Chapter 04 for an elucidation of this phenomenon). If somebody in one of your dreams were to ask your dream-state character if the dream was real, you (playing the part of that character) would most likely say, “yes, of course this is real!”. Similarly, if someone were to ask your waking-state character if this world is real, you would almost undoubtedly respond in kind. The Ultimate Reality (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) alone is real - 'real' in the sense that it is the never-mutable substratum of ALL existence. The wisest of the sages of ancient India distinguished the 'real' from the 'unreal' (“sat/asat”, in Sanskrit) by whether or not the 'thing' was eternal or temporal (Cf. Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 1:3:28, Bhagavad-gītā 2:16, et altri). Gross material objects (such as one's own body) and subtle material objects (such as thoughts) are always changing, and therefore not 'real'. Reality is clearly seen by those self-realized persons who have experienced spiritual awakenings, yet only intellectually understood by those who have merely studied spiritual topics (that is, those who have practiced one of the four systems of religion described in Chapter 16). “Consciousness must first be there, before anything else can BE. All inquiry of the seeker of truth, must therefore, relate to this consciousness, this sense of conscious presence, which as such, has no personal reference to any individual.” ************* “Insofar as you keep watching the mind and discover yourself as its witness, nothing else can project itself on the screen of consciousness. This is so, because two things cannot occupy the attention, at the same moment. Therefore, delve within and find out where thoughts arise. Seek the source of all thought and acquire the Self-knowledge, which is the awakening of Truth.” ************* “If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state. This is abolished in the dream state. The dream state disappears, when you are in deep sleep. The three states come and go, but you are always there. Your real state, that of Consciousness itself, continues to exist always and forever and it is the only Reality.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Spirit. This Spirit is the matrix of all matter.” ************* “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, German Theoretical Physicist.
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 4 года назад
Panpsychists are admirable people who mean well but for all the world they remind me of that episode in the Fall and Rise of Reginald Perrin where Reggie suddenly realises he hasn't mapped out the sales areas for his reps Tony and David so grabs his secretary Joan's handbag, bangs it onto the Ordnance Survey 1:50.000 and stencils out a very handbag-shaped sales area using a marker pen. The "hole" in scientific theory between material quantity and material quality is Reggie's failure to plan ahead; the handbag is "consciousness", and the handbag-shaped sales area is panpsychist theory. But Reggie also grabbed his umbrella (and did the same thing for the other sales rep) - what is that? It can't be consciousness too. Maybe it could be space-time (Riemannian) geometry? And then there could have been a third rep - what then? Etc., etc.
@vidasmick
@vidasmick Год назад
Panpsychism assumes that consciousness is a fundamental property of the Universe. This rises a question: are these elementary building blocks of consciousness obeying even more fundamental laws of the Universe, or they are forming the laws?
@rebekahlevy4562
@rebekahlevy4562 2 года назад
Long-time reader of Pullman; have been reading "Galileo's Error." I suspect it's because Goff doesn't want to attract too many "mystical" woo-woos...but an extremely obvious (to me)-but-unspoken way of looking at what's currently being called panpsychism is to perceive how its perspectives on consciousness are actually a re-examination and return (hopefully with growing respect) to the earliest roots (Pullman said it himself, when he mentioned prehistoric cave paintings) of what eventually became institutionalized, dogmatic "religion;" i.e., the way Pygmy peoples and Australian Aborigines (before their habitats and culture were polluted) used to experience the world, and what they actually meant when they would try to tell us that "everything is alive." Except that they didn't/don't ponder it in their head-minds so much; they EMBODIED it, SENSED it. It is my fervent hope that a critical mass of us "modern" humans, with our overgrown, DETACHED intellects and arrogant worship of "Only The Rational, Measurable, and Quantifiable Can Be True" will finally train those overdeveloped intellects on the subject matter of this video...that our collective Head will finally rejoin our collective Body, and finally begin to address the REAL problem: our Heart, which is being pulled apart by both extremes, but which is also the only part of us that comprehends both extremes. OMG I like what I've written and I am going to try to find a way to send this to Goff.
@artandculture5262
@artandculture5262 4 года назад
Often in my experience, the higher the education the more distance from being a vulnerable human being.
@juntus89
@juntus89 4 года назад
Not at all. Education has zero to do with vulnerability.
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
It can provide a shield to hide behind, and escape ongoing questioning. However, there are many not so educated who use other things for the same purpose. It's an individual personality stance. The education system is increasingly teaching what not how to think, sadly.
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
We are God’s creation and these “geniuses” think they can search for all of the answers as of it matters. We all grow old and will return to God.
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 Год назад
Cliche, cliche. And seldom true, in my experience.
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 Год назад
It seems to me that panpsychism posits something we know not what to explain 'conscious awareness'. But surely this has no explanatory value? It's simply a placeholder for whatever 'consciousness' turns out to be. Or we may simply be asking 'what is Life', or what is Free Will', assuming there are such things in themselves, and requiring attaching somehow to us as 'mere' physical beings. But there is no such thing as 'life' separate from certain configurations of matter. Similarly with will - free or expensive.
@lucassiccardi8764
@lucassiccardi8764 4 года назад
It's not Descartes Goff should be opposing to Dennett, but Husserl.
@awuma
@awuma 4 года назад
1:32 Physical science is not just quantitative. Morphological classification has long been used in biology and astronomy, for example, and it has taken a long time to develop algorithms to quantify and extend it (e.g. using artificial intelligence). In astronomy, classification of stellar spectra and galaxy shapes was for a century entirely a question of matching by eye. Of course, the relationship and sequencing of different classes are totally differently understood than they were at first, though the classification systems still remain, improved in detail as samples grow in number, space and time, and as the underlying physics is better modelled.
@HeyItsKora
@HeyItsKora 4 года назад
poo, I'm 8:55 in and can't risk going any further, I *haven't* finished the secret commonwealth yet... I'm around chapter 15. Can't risk spoilers..... Q_Q I was really enjoying this...
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 4 года назад
I've finished 'The sSecret Commonwealth', & can assure you no spoilers are in the rest of the video! Feel free to watch the entire thing.
@davidwright8432
@davidwright8432 Год назад
You needn't worry! I've finished the book, and nothing in the rest of the presentation here is a spoiler - tho there are of course references to various characters. But that's more in terms of what they are, rather than what they do do affect the 'narrative arc' of the story. Or, you could simply finish the book then watch the rest of the presentation.
@phlearze
@phlearze 2 года назад
@32:20 😂 Gold!
@fantastick7662
@fantastick7662 2 года назад
What if consciousness is life but not in the literal, breathing aspect of it where the universe and everything within works intricately in different planes of reality to satisfy a balance we’re not privy to. If you go to the lower level of shape and form (atom), perhaps the behaviours of action from atoms is based on the randomness level from the material and environment. Consciousness can be experiential but does not mean that it starts first with experience. Perhaps the complexity of anything requires consciousness to act the behaviours which science and math test and analyze. Crazy topic to digest it’s damn near impossible to give it a definite meaning without losing yourself in the explanation
@jamesskinnercouk
@jamesskinnercouk 4 года назад
If consciousness is an illusion then what are these illusions that are being experienced, are illusions illusions
@BugRib
@BugRib 4 года назад
Just be honest with yourself. Sure, you’re having an experience. I mean, it would be CRAZY to argue otherwise! CRAZY, I tell you! But just admit to yourself that you’re not _really_ having an experience. Actually, you’re currently experiencing the _illusion_ of having an experience. But don’t trust that experience, because it doesn’t _really_ exist. Your experience of having an illusory experience is just an illusion. You’re not _really_ experiencing the illusion of having an experience. You just think you are because it’s a powerful illusion. DON’T TRUST THE ILLUSION!
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
🐟 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: Consciousness means “that which knows” or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). There is BOTH a localized knowing and a Universal Awareness, as explicated in the following paragraphs. Higher species of animal life have sufficient cognitive ability to know themselves and their environment, at least to a measurable degree. HOWEVER, in recent years, the term has been used in esoteric spiritual circles (usually capitalised) to refer to a far more Universal Consciousness (“puruṣa”, in Sanskrit), due to the fact that the English language doesn’t include a single word denoting the universal Ground of Being (for instance “Brahman”, “Tao”, in other tongues). The word “Awareness” (capitalized) is arguably a more apposite term for this concept. The typical person believes that the apparatus which knows the external world is his mind (via the five senses), but more perceptive individuals understand that the mind itself is cognizable by the intellect. Wise souls recognize that the sense of self (the pseudo-ego) is the perceiver of their intellects, whereas awakened persons have realized that the true self/Self is the witness of ALL these temporal phenomena. The true self is synonymous with Consciousness, or with Infinite Awareness, or the Undifferentiated Unified Field (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit). The Tao (The Reality [lit. The Way]) which can be expressed in language is not the REAL Tao. All concepts are, by nature, relative, and at most, can merely point to the Absolute. That explains why some branches of theology use the apophatic method of discerning The Infinite (“neti neti”, [not this, not that], in Sanskrit). Also known in Latin as “via negativa” or “via negationis” theology, this philosophical approach to discovering the essential nature of Reality, gradually negates each description about Ultimate Reality, but not Reality Itself. The brain is merely a conduit or TRANSDUCER of Universal Consciousness, explaining why the more intelligent the animal, the more it can understand its own existence (or at least be aware of more of its environment - just see how amazingly-complex dolphin behaviour can be, compared with other aquatic species), and the reason why it is asserted that a truly enlightened human must possess a far higher level of intelligence than the average person. See Chapter 17 to understand the distinction between enlightenment and mere awakening. The brain is COMPARATIVELY equivalent to computer hardware, Universal Awareness is akin to the operating system, whilst individuated consciousness is analogous to the software programme, using deoxyribonucleic acid as the memory chip. A person who is comatosed has lost any semblance of personal consciousness, yet is being kept alive by the presence of Universal Consciousness (here, the word “coma” is not to be taken by its etymological definition of “deep sleep”, but the medical condition of a persistent vegetative state). An apt analogy for Universal Consciousness is the manner in which electricity powers a variety of appliances and gadgets, according to the use and COMPLEXITY of the said device. Electricity powers a washing machine in a very simple manner, to drive a large spindle for laundering clothes. However, the very same electrical power may be used to operate a computer to manifest an astonishing range of outputs, such as playing audiovisual tracks, communication tasks and performing extremely advanced mathematical computations, depending on the computer's software and hardware. The more advanced/complex the device, the more complex its manifestation of the same electricity. So, then, one could complain: “That's not fair - why can only a genius be enlightened?” (as defined in Chapter 17). The answer is: first of all, as stated above, every species of animal has its own level of intelligence on a wide-ranging scale. Therefore, a pig or a dog could (if possible) ask: “That's unfair - why can only a human being be enlightened?” Secondly, it is INDEED a fact that life is unfair, because there is no “tit for tat” law of action and reaction, even if many supposedly-great religious preceptors have stated so. They said so because they were preaching to wicked miscreants who refused to quit their evil ways, and needed to be chastized in a forceful manner. It is not possible to speak gentle words to a rabid dog to prevent it from biting you. There is evidence of Consciousness being a universal field, in SAVANT SYNDROME, a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrate certain abilities far in excess of the norm, such as superhuman rapid mathematical calculation, mind-reading, blind-seeing, or astounding musical aptitude. Such behaviour suggests that there is a universal field (possibly in holographic form) from which one can access information. Even simple artistic inspiration could be attributed to this phenomenon. The great British singer-songwriter, Sir James Paul McCartney, one day woke with the complete tune of the song, “Yesterday”, in his mind, after hearing it in a dream. American composer, Paul Simon, had a similar experience when the chorus of his sublime masterpiece, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, simply popped into his head. Three states of awareness are experienced by humans and possibly all other species of mammals: the waking state (“jāgrata”, in Sanskrit), dreaming (“svapna”, in Sanskrit), and deep-sleep (“suṣupti”, in Sanskrit). Beyond these three temporal states is the fourth 'state' (“turīya” or “caturīya”, in Sanskrit). That is the unconditioned, eternal 'state', which underlies the other three. So, in actual fact, the fourth state is not a state, but the Unconditioned Ground of Being (or to put it simply, YOU, the real self/Self). Perhaps the main purpose of dreams is so that we can understand that the waking-state is practically indistinguishable to the dream-state, and thereby come to see the ILLUSION of this ephemeral world. Both our waking-state experiences and our dream-state experiences occur solely within the mental faculties (refer to Chapter 04 for an elucidation of this phenomenon). If somebody in one of your dreams were to ask your dream-state character if the dream was real, you (playing the part of that character) would most likely say, “yes, of course this is real!”. Similarly, if someone were to ask your waking-state character if this world is real, you would almost undoubtedly respond in kind. The Ultimate Reality (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) alone is real - 'real' in the sense that it is the never-mutable substratum of ALL existence. The wisest of the sages of ancient India distinguished the 'real' from the 'unreal' (“sat/asat”, in Sanskrit) by whether or not the 'thing' was eternal or temporal (Cf. Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 1:3:28, Bhagavad-gītā 2:16, et altri). Gross material objects (such as one's own body) and subtle material objects (such as thoughts) are always changing, and therefore not 'real'. Reality is clearly seen by those self-realized persons who have experienced spiritual awakenings, yet only intellectually understood by those who have merely studied spiritual topics (that is, those who have practiced one of the four systems of religion described in Chapter 16). “Consciousness must first be there, before anything else can BE. All inquiry of the seeker of truth, must therefore, relate to this consciousness, this sense of conscious presence, which as such, has no personal reference to any individual.” ************* “Insofar as you keep watching the mind and discover yourself as its witness, nothing else can project itself on the screen of consciousness. This is so, because two things cannot occupy the attention, at the same moment. Therefore, delve within and find out where thoughts arise. Seek the source of all thought and acquire the Self-knowledge, which is the awakening of Truth.” ************* “If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state. This is abolished in the dream state. The dream state disappears, when you are in deep sleep. The three states come and go, but you are always there. Your real state, that of Consciousness itself, continues to exist always and forever and it is the only Reality.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Spirit. This Spirit is the matrix of all matter.” ************* “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, German Theoretical Physicist.
@robertlacamp4731
@robertlacamp4731 4 года назад
Panpsychism/Dust........ hmmmmm........Did, perhaps, the Chinese find out about this 4 or 5 thousand years ago?
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 4 года назад
2.500 years ago, yes.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
@AAH Replies 🐟 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS: Consciousness means “that which knows” or “the state of being aware”, from the Latin prefix “con” (with), the stem “scire” (to know) and the suffix “osus” (characterized by). There is BOTH a localized knowing and a Universal Awareness, as explicated in the following paragraphs. Higher species of animal life have sufficient cognitive ability to know themselves and their environment, at least to a measurable degree. HOWEVER, in recent years, the term has been used in esoteric spiritual circles (usually capitalised) to refer to a far more Universal Consciousness (“puruṣa”, in Sanskrit), due to the fact that the English language doesn’t include a single word denoting the universal Ground of Being (for instance “Brahman”, “Tao”, in other tongues). The word “Awareness” (capitalized) is arguably a more apposite term for this concept. The typical person believes that the apparatus which knows the external world is his mind (via the five senses), but more perceptive individuals understand that the mind itself is cognizable by the intellect. Wise souls recognize that the sense of self (the pseudo-ego) is the perceiver of their intellects, whereas awakened persons have realized that the true self/Self is the witness of ALL these temporal phenomena. The true self is synonymous with Consciousness, or with Infinite Awareness, or the Undifferentiated Unified Field (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit). The Tao (The Reality [lit. The Way]) which can be expressed in language is not the REAL Tao. All concepts are, by nature, relative, and at most, can merely point to the Absolute. That explains why some branches of theology use the apophatic method of discerning The Infinite (“neti neti”, [not this, not that], in Sanskrit). Also known in Latin as “via negativa” or “via negationis” theology, this philosophical approach to discovering the essential nature of Reality, gradually negates each description about Ultimate Reality, but not Reality Itself. The brain is merely a conduit or TRANSDUCER of Universal Consciousness, explaining why the more intelligent the animal, the more it can understand its own existence (or at least be aware of more of its environment - just see how amazingly-complex dolphin behaviour can be, compared with other aquatic species), and the reason why it is asserted that a truly enlightened human must possess a far higher level of intelligence than the average person. See Chapter 17 to understand the distinction between enlightenment and mere awakening. The brain is COMPARATIVELY equivalent to computer hardware, Universal Awareness is akin to the operating system, whilst individuated consciousness is analogous to the software programme, using deoxyribonucleic acid as the memory chip. A person who is comatosed has lost any semblance of personal consciousness, yet is being kept alive by the presence of Universal Consciousness (here, the word “coma” is not to be taken by its etymological definition of “deep sleep”, but the medical condition of a persistent vegetative state). An apt analogy for Universal Consciousness is the manner in which electricity powers a variety of appliances and gadgets, according to the use and COMPLEXITY of the said device. Electricity powers a washing machine in a very simple manner, to drive a large spindle for laundering clothes. However, the very same electrical power may be used to operate a computer to manifest an astonishing range of outputs, such as playing audiovisual tracks, communication tasks and performing extremely advanced mathematical computations, depending on the computer's software and hardware. The more advanced/complex the device, the more complex its manifestation of the same electricity. So, then, one could complain: “That's not fair - why can only a genius be enlightened?” (as defined in Chapter 17). The answer is: first of all, as stated above, every species of animal has its own level of intelligence on a wide-ranging scale. Therefore, a pig or a dog could (if possible) ask: “That's unfair - why can only a human being be enlightened?” Secondly, it is INDEED a fact that life is unfair, because there is no “tit for tat” law of action and reaction, even if many supposedly-great religious preceptors have stated so. They said so because they were preaching to wicked miscreants who refused to quit their evil ways, and needed to be chastized in a forceful manner. It is not possible to speak gentle words to a rabid dog to prevent it from biting you. There is evidence of Consciousness being a universal field, in SAVANT SYNDROME, a condition in which someone with significant mental disabilities demonstrate certain abilities far in excess of the norm, such as superhuman rapid mathematical calculation, mind-reading, blind-seeing, or astounding musical aptitude. Such behaviour suggests that there is a universal field (possibly in holographic form) from which one can access information. Even simple artistic inspiration could be attributed to this phenomenon. The great British singer-songwriter, Sir James Paul McCartney, one day woke with the complete tune of the song, “Yesterday”, in his mind, after hearing it in a dream. American composer, Paul Simon, had a similar experience when the chorus of his sublime masterpiece, “Bridge Over Troubled Water”, simply popped into his head. Three states of awareness are experienced by humans and possibly all other species of mammals: the waking state (“jāgrata”, in Sanskrit), dreaming (“svapna”, in Sanskrit), and deep-sleep (“suṣupti”, in Sanskrit). Beyond these three temporal states is the fourth 'state' (“turīya” or “caturīya”, in Sanskrit). That is the unconditioned, eternal 'state', which underlies the other three. So, in actual fact, the fourth state is not a state, but the Unconditioned Ground of Being (or to put it simply, YOU, the real self/Self). Perhaps the main purpose of dreams is so that we can understand that the waking-state is practically indistinguishable to the dream-state, and thereby come to see the ILLUSION of this ephemeral world. Both our waking-state experiences and our dream-state experiences occur solely within the mental faculties (refer to Chapter 04 for an elucidation of this phenomenon). If somebody in one of your dreams were to ask your dream-state character if the dream was real, you (playing the part of that character) would most likely say, “yes, of course this is real!”. Similarly, if someone were to ask your waking-state character if this world is real, you would almost undoubtedly respond in kind. The Ultimate Reality (“Brahman”, in Sanskrit) alone is real - 'real' in the sense that it is the never-mutable substratum of ALL existence. The wisest of the sages of ancient India distinguished the 'real' from the 'unreal' (“sat/asat”, in Sanskrit) by whether or not the 'thing' was eternal or temporal (Cf. Bṛhadāraṇyaka Upaniṣad 1:3:28, Bhagavad-gītā 2:16, et altri). Gross material objects (such as one's own body) and subtle material objects (such as thoughts) are always changing, and therefore not 'real'. Reality is clearly seen by those self-realized persons who have experienced spiritual awakenings, yet only intellectually understood by those who have merely studied spiritual topics (that is, those who have practiced one of the four systems of religion described in Chapter 16). “Consciousness must first be there, before anything else can BE. All inquiry of the seeker of truth, must therefore, relate to this consciousness, this sense of conscious presence, which as such, has no personal reference to any individual.” ************* “Insofar as you keep watching the mind and discover yourself as its witness, nothing else can project itself on the screen of consciousness. This is so, because two things cannot occupy the attention, at the same moment. Therefore, delve within and find out where thoughts arise. Seek the source of all thought and acquire the Self-knowledge, which is the awakening of Truth.” ************* “If you remain as you are now, you are in the wakeful state. This is abolished in the dream state. The dream state disappears, when you are in deep sleep. The three states come and go, but you are always there. Your real state, that of Consciousness itself, continues to exist always and forever and it is the only Reality.” Ramesh Balsekar, Indian Spiritual Teacher. “As a man who has devoted his whole life to the most clearheaded science, to the study of matter, I can tell you as a result of my research about the atoms this much: There is no matter as such! All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force which brings the particles of an atom to vibration and holds this most minute solar system of the atom together. We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Spirit. This Spirit is the matrix of all matter.” ************* “I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness.” Max Karl Ernst Ludwig Planck, German Theoretical Physicist.
@TheWorldTeacher
@TheWorldTeacher 3 года назад
@AAH Replies Gautam Sachdeva?🤔 To read the remaining chapters of “A Final Instruction Sheet for Humanity”, which are the most authoritative, accurate and complete spiritual precepts so far in human history, Email: prophet4god@icloud.com with the acronym “FISH” in the subject field. 🐟 “The gateway to KNOWLEDGE is ignorance”. 🤓 CONTENTS: 00. PROLOGUE 01. PREFACE 02. A BRIEF SYNOPSIS OF “LIFE” 03. CONCEPTS Vs THE TRUTH 04. SCIENCE Vs RELIGION 05. THE PHENOMENAL UNIVERSE 06. CONSCIOUSNESS/AWARENESS 07. GOD (OR NOT) 08. KARMA (ACTION & REACTION) 09. REINCARNATION (OR NOT) 10. EGO (THE SENSE OF SELF): 11. FREE-WILL Vs DETERMINISM 12. LAW, MORALITY, & ETHICS 13. SIN (MISSING THE MARK) 14. DIVINE & DEMONIC NATURES 15. SUFFERING & HAPPINESS 16. YOGA/RELIGION 17. AWAKENING, LIBERATION, & ENLIGHTENMENT 18. THE THREE MODES 19. THE FOUR SOCIAL CLASSES 20. THE PRIESTHOOD 21. THE MONARCHY 22. ILLEGITIMATE GOVERNANCES 23. THE BUSINESS OWNERS 24. THE WORKING-CLASS 25. THE ROLE OF FEMALES 26. FEMINISM 27. MARRIAGE & THE FAMILY 28. SEX & TRANSVESTISM 29. SOCIAL ETIQUETTE 30. FOOD AND DIET
@rael1999
@rael1999 4 года назад
I feel consciousness is deeply affected by the experiences we go through in life and the type of person we are. Deep thinkers will always ask themselves 'why is that' and as you get older I think you look a little deeper into the world, it's working and our part in it. The 'C' changes we go through seem to shift that perception. I also feel that we become aware or question where our consciousness comes from, is it like a daemon, detached from us but somehow connected, or is it just thought patterns coming from the brain. Perhaps consciousness is our daemon, our inner self that we regularly discuss, argue and debate with on many things including consciousness itself. Perhaps like daemons we experience all our senses through this 'entity' that is our consciousness. There is a lot we don't yet know and it always amuses me to think we're that arrogant we think all the answers lie within our species. In terms of our knowledge of things, if the knowledge of the worlds were an encyclopaedia then we may well be only on the first chapter of the first book. And as we know from reading books or books our understanding and perception of what we thought was set in stone changes. The one great thing about consciousness, is it reminds us we're alive.
@lyndaoreilly1727
@lyndaoreilly1727 4 года назад
'There is a lot we don't yet know and it always amuses me to think we're that arrogant we think all the answers lie within our species.' Yes, arrogance is usually based in ignorance and our species still feels we're at the top. There's so much more to find and it's exhilarating. Our 'sophisticated' brains may get closer to discovering what's really up between materials and consciousness but we're not making it, we're finding it, and its something that's always been there, all pervasive...takes my breathe away, it does. 'The one great thing about consciousness, is it reminds us we're alive.' My curiosity and wonder are the only things that make me wish I could live forever.
@rael1999
@rael1999 4 года назад
@@lyndaoreilly1727 ....That last line sums my feeling up about life...I love it now as much as I ever have and am sad to think I won't be around to see and experience the many wonders that will be discovered after I'm gone. Although wasn't it Hans Christian Andersen that said "The whole world is a series of miracles, but we're so use to them, we call them ordinary things" Wonder is everywhere we look !
@ValChronification
@ValChronification 3 года назад
ok, triggered immediately at 2:30. "I mean how can you judge that?" He just did. Some people it seems just CANNOT understand their own being. Unless of course they are in fact NOT conscious. But as someone who toddled around in a non-self reflective conscious state for 20 some years, I don't think it's that. It's a failure to grasp the significance of the qualia of "redness". The literal appearance of RED in your field of vision. The scientific quantitative explanations will not account for it, and there is no reason for them to predict such an accompanying experiential qualia to an internal observer to match the physical happenings in the brain. It just appears to me the host would read the above and not understand what I'm actually getting at.
@juntus89
@juntus89 4 года назад
No disrespect but who's idea was it have two NON scientists discuss science? One author has a degree in English, the other in Philosophy. Yet they affirm over matters of which they know nothing about. Pulman remained bemused for years by the basic physiological happening of vergence, upon noticing that his singular finger was seemingly in to places at once. Phil Gof is more interested in attacking the field of Physical Sciences and its proponents rather than taking the time to study it. I would presume he has studied it, only to find himself lacking when it comes to comprehension. Imo, it would be helpful if experts spent their energy discussing matters within their own field instead of embarrassing themselves through displays of ignorance.
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
Water, can hold consciousness, look at work of Japanese scientist Masuro Emoto.
@Oldhandlewasabitcringe
@Oldhandlewasabitcringe 3 года назад
That work has been absolutely and completely debunked, even a layperson reading the work can see that much
@catonamushroom1019
@catonamushroom1019 3 года назад
@@Oldhandlewasabitcringe - can they?
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
These dudes are saying a bunch of stuff without actually saying anything at all.
@jareddavis4980
@jareddavis4980 2 года назад
I've been shouting the answer forever, but it's a terrible mental burden to accept, so most ignore it. The answer is this: It is impossible to be unconscious from your own perspective.. Now think of everything that implies!
@shilpashivadasan5115
@shilpashivadasan5115 Год назад
Jared Davis - What does it imply? Please do reply
@TheRivensongInitiative
@TheRivensongInitiative 3 года назад
Maybe this is somewhat unrelated to the content of the interview but the interviewer's body language is so obviously biased towards Pullman 95% of the time. Interesting to observe in lieu of bringing consciousness to consciousness. Lol
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
Lmao
@wikedwhich1
@wikedwhich1 3 года назад
I do find all this stuff talked about here unsatisfactory. It really doesn't reach the point of spirituality ...which Dust seems to open up to initially and yet falls short of expanding into a deeper awareness of NO-MIND consciousness. So its 2 dimensional isnt it...Its not attractive for me it does not really throw light on real bi-location, the power of Ki/Prana, timelessness, reincarnation as just four aspects of a huge area of what could be involved in this discussion. I suppose the subject is never going to discuss such things...But why is GOD/All-that-is so out of the picture? This seems at the heart of all consciousness? Its too mental and not opening to real Presence.
@philippullman2091
@philippullman2091 3 года назад
I appreciate you for being a big fan. it means alot to me . I want you to send me a direct message via Hangouts using my personal email that will be indicated below. Also endeavor to add your name to the text so I can know you are the one texting because I don't respond unnecessary messages. Hangouts mail: brinkbernhard35@gmail.com
@InspirebyKhan
@InspirebyKhan 2 года назад
Bunch of atheists trying to explain the meaning of life by using a bunch of big words over and over again. This cycle of Humans trying to explain things they will never understand has been going on for years and these fools think they are pioneers lmao
@ilovecharlie4979
@ilovecharlie4979 2 года назад
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