Philly Sour with Brettanomyces | Anvil Foundry | EP37

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Brettanomyces goes hand in hand with sour beer so it was only a matter of time before I had to try it. What happens when you copitch philly sour yeast and brett?
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@midman112 2 года назад

I did a sour saison earlier this year with Philly Sour followed by White Labs French Saison after 3 days of fermentation. Turned out really well. The tart bite in addition to the saison spice notes and complexity really made it an enjoyable beer.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Brilliant! I gotta try that

@manueljulianrodriguez1705 2 года назад

Philly sour + brett + hoppy beer? That goes on my check list

@TheApartmentBrewer 2 года назад

Love it! Mixed fermentation is lots of fun. Still have my Brett Saison and its continuing to develop character as it ages.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Still blows my mind! All those little bugs working together to make me make mediocre decisions lol

@AllianceOfCalgon 2 года назад

Awesome. Look forward to watching.

@davyboy555 2 года назад

Thanks for yet another awesome video

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Cheers! 🍻

@Marceloluizz 2 года назад

One more great vid. Brett is always wonderful. Nice tip about to lift basket and stir. I recently have some issue about mash temp. Tks! 🍻

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Thanks! Cheers 🍻

@TTweten77 2 года назад

Something that Brett really likes is left over dextrins, they produce different esters and a very fine carbonation like champagne when its bottle conditioned. Doing a turbid mash can really elevate a Brett beer when you let it bottle condition and age ❤️🍻

@Dlabanec64 2 года назад

When I saw the amount of hops, I could only think that this really is hops & gnarly beer :D

@stevenbrown63 2 года назад

Great tip about lifting the grain during mash. I never thought about doing that!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

A lot of people mentioned it in the Anvil Foundry Facebook group and after trying it I can see why. And on this 6.5 it’s super easy too

@Alternboy 2 года назад

I copitched philly sour with french saison from Mangrove Jack's äter three days. It turned out fantastic!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Sounds delicious!

@Alternboy 2 года назад

I also used loral hops. It was one of my all time great beers.

@shaggaroo 2 года назад

Very cool, thanks!

@paultidsy4019 2 года назад

This Philly sour is a really fun yeast. I brewed a batch with a "Belgian Blond-Ish" malt bill, pitched Philly Sour, then after 3 days pitched WLP530 Abbey Ale. I like that extra layer of something, but would have liked a bit more impact from the Abbey yeast. Might try it again but pitch a day earlier. Great vid!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Sounds great! Yea now I’m wondering what would happen if you pitched both at the same time

@paultidsy4019 2 года назад

@@HopsANDgnarly I wondered the same thing but Lallemand say Philly sour is easily out-competed by other yeasts. As soon as another yeast turns up at the party it just lays down and stops doing it’s thing.

@tuandjbambu 2 года назад

We recently co pitched Philly with WLP300 on a Hefe and it turned out amazing. We only let it sour for a few days, just enough to give it a tropical finish but still have the banana and clove aroma. It really messes with your head but delicious!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Sounds great!

@thebird36 2 года назад

i still need to try brett beers. Doing a philly sour beer this weekend!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

A Brett only pale or ipa is a must try! 🍻

@thethrashcorp 2 года назад

Quality production man! Great content! If you have not, a possible suggestion, to split the batch, pitch different yeasts and after fermentation blending. Keep up the good work.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Thanks! Great suggestion! 🍻

@anythingplants4434 2 года назад

I wish you would add the recipe in the description!

@alvaradobrewhouse6387 2 года назад

I'm really digging your videos man, good stuff. I'm just now starting to jump in to souring my homebrew so great timing. my next brew is Rapsberry Sour using philly sour but the co-pitching opps are endless. Next up after that Sour IPA...

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Thanks man! Sounds like a great plan! Sours are so dang fun

@AllianceOfCalgon 2 года назад

If you want to turn a Brett beer around fast search fast modern funky sour. I think you would enjoy this method. Cheers

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Just checked it out - I think I’d enjoy that too. And I needed one more beer for this season! Let’s do it

@jakecummings2838 2 года назад

When I first started brewing. I coptiched a hef strain with a saison strain. I did it out of sheer ignorance. But I got a delicous flavor bomb. Since you asked

@manueljulianrodriguez1705 2 года назад

Sounds like a cool combination

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Sounds awesome! I’ve actually never brewed a hefe but love the style and I’m working on a recipe

@filmbandit6664 2 года назад

Amazing. I did a Philly Sour and Brett and wish I had seen this earlier. I did loads of cranberries in my secondary and bottled a bit too early at 2 months they really foam hah. The Brett kept fermenting wayyyyy longer then I expected (I suspect left over cranberry bits). Gets better every month!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Great minds! This beer was so much fun

@SuperRS2008 2 года назад

Any other long time watchers that get the songs Gnarly uses stuck in their heads!?

@sebastiaanreynhardt2607 2 года назад

I just love your episodes dude. I’ll try this one later in the year.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Stoked you like them! 🤘🏼🍻

@Jango1989 2 года назад

Brilliant video. Love bret so much and it goes so well with sours. A Hefeweizen co-pitch with Philly sour would be great to see. I imagine it would make a really nice fruited beer.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

I gotta try it!

@PartyTimeBrewing 2 года назад

Haven't tried any co-pitching or anything interesting like that, but looking forward to trying out a philly sour and a brett fermentation. Cheers!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Future video?! Cheers man! 🤘🏼🍻

@ashleysutton16 2 года назад

I co pitched a Hefe strain with great results in my Blackberry Gose. I still get the green apple from this yeast though that I don't like.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

I think I need to try a hefe Philly combo! I get a distinct flavor from it as well. It’s hard to compete with the clean acidity you get from quick souring for certain styles

@stevermair 2 года назад

Should be cool to see how this one evolves. Maybe bottle a bit of this and let it go longer?

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Absolutely! I’ll set a few aside and we can taste in a future video

@helloiamlost 2 года назад

Great video. I noticed that you had a whirlpool arm/racking cane type thing in your setup. Where did you find that whirlpool arm with disconnects? Such a cool piece of kit.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Thanks! The whirlpool arm is from brewhardware.com and it works great 🤘🏼🍻

@leehaseley7608 2 года назад

Looks and sounds a great beer, brother! I would be interested to see how, if at all, the finished product would differ if the Brett had been pitched at the start.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

I’m curious about this too!

@Vykk_Draygo 2 года назад

Lallemand don't recommend concurrent pitching with Philly Sour, since it's not particularly competitive. Might work with Brett, since it's generally rather slow going too.

@leehaseley7608 2 года назад

@@Vykk_Draygo that was my thought process. Slow working Brett would not out-compete, or not out-compete by much, the Philly Sour.

@KungfuCarnivore 2 года назад

What was your PH you were shooting for pre Philly sour? Been thinking about the same combo today, maybe co pitch Philly with a saison as well. Funny had a bottle of Epic brewing Elder Brett 2 days ago and was thinking how I could get similar results. Philly sour is a perfect co pitch. And perfect timing for this video!

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Pre Philly sour 5.2 then around 3.5 when adding the Brett. Super fun! If you try it out let me know how it goes 🍻

@korymiller5416 Год назад

Hey Dan, around the 3 minute, 24 second mark you have a small basket that I think you pour the hops into. Is that something homemade, or did you purchase it? Thanks!

@HopsANDgnarly Год назад

Something I purchased. I think most people call them hop spiders and I’d really only suggest using one with a plate chiller

@deckling823 2 года назад

I wonder, why did you dry hop and pitch brett at the same time? how long after pitching brett did you try the beer? it sounds like brett didn't do anything here, unless you age it.

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

I did the first dry hop and Brett at the same time mostly because the fermenter was open but also was hoping it’d benefit from some biotransformation. Hard to tell if it did but you could easily save all the hops for the end if that how you like to do it. I did another DH before kegging. The Brett only had maybe 3 weeks before I started sampling and it was present but certainly not mature like an aged sour or Brett saison. Still I hope I illustrated the concept and inspired a few people to try combining yeasts with Philly sour 🤘🏼🍻

@manueljulianrodriguez1705 2 года назад

Talking about sours, what happened with the solera project? I want to know how is it going

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Episode 40! We’ll find out real soon 🤙🏼🍻

@jaggersbrewingco 2 года назад

Great video! How long did it take for it to "finish" from pitch to taste test?

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Thanks! It was around 28 days

@jaggersbrewingco 2 года назад

@@HopsANDgnarly Did you nice if you had a pellicle or not? I have only just started playing with sour beers/ ales in the last sixish months. I have been mostly using bottle drags so who knows what all is in there. But the last sour I made was with Coast to Coast that is a blend of yeast and Brett. It had no pellicle, which up to that point was odd to me. Anyways keep up the good work!

@Dlabanec64 2 года назад

How did you package the beer? Are you planning on aging some portion?

@HopsANDgnarly 2 года назад

Right now it’s in a keg but that will get moved to cans. I will be sure to set some cans aside to see how things evolve

@DingusD862 14 дней назад

How long did you let it go on the brett?

@Murlockingqc Год назад

Never used Brett, I'm gonna contaminate all my brewing equipment with it?

@HopsANDgnarly Год назад

(knock on wood!) I've never had a contamination and I don't keep separate equipment, keg lines, or anything. But you definitely have to have a good sanitation practice in place and avoid cheap plastics

@Murlockingqc Год назад

@@HopsANDgnarly Thank you, have a good new year !