Phos is Worthless 

Kamimashita: Warning, Wall of Text. Short Answer: The gems canonically call each other ‘he’ and I will make this point clear even though I’m aware it doesn’t matter, especially since the only confirmed female doesn’t talk like a girl. --- Long answer: The way the gems refer to each other is actually really simple, it’s the fans or those just getting interested in Hnk because it has a ‘gay non-binary cast’ or ‘cute gem girls’ that are making it difficult. The gems refer to each other in masculine terms, calling each other ‘kare’(he) and variations of Brother (Aniki/Niisan/Otouto), or referring to themselves as ‘boku’ or ‘ore’. Cinnabar and Bort are fond of very masculine Ore, while Phos and even Diamond use the boyish Boku. Only a few of them use the neutral ‘watashi’ to refer to themselves(Rutile and Jade), but even then plenty of men in anime use this version of I. The only time any of the gems are referred to as anything resembling girls is when Ventricosus calls them ‘Anoko’, which can be translated like ‘that girl’ or ‘that kid’. But based on how Aculetus calls Phos a ‘Bone’ and continues to more or less refer to Phos as an object, the latter is most likely true. But the gems are not male. The author herself doesn’t see the gems as male or female, but something like an in between, as the gems have (in her words) the top half of a boy (triangle, flat) and the bottom half of a girl(long legs, hips). Even so, they have no, *ahem*...equipment, with no kind of identifier for either gender. They are, without a doubt completely genderless. But part of the point of the story is that these kinds of things don’t matter. I’ve only just noticed this in its entirety, but Ventricosus doesn’t talk like she’s female at all. She refers to herself early on using ‘ware’(very formal) which while it can be used by either gender and is to my knowledge more like the Royal We, she also doesn’t call herself Queen(Jou), instead calling herself King(Ou). Later, Ventri uses ‘washi’(formal-ish) which is also masculine. This could possibly be chalked up to Ventri speaking as royalty, which requires formality, but it’s doesn’t explain her using King or switching from a masculine way of referring to herself as royalty to another masculine way of referring to herself as something of an equal. The only time she is referred to as female is by her brother Aculetus calling her ‘Older Sister’. Everyone so far in Houseki no Kuni talks in masculine terms, though only the gems so far refer to one another in any definable way, minus that one time Aculetus called Ventricosus sister. But people will continue to refer to the gems as they see fit. It’s kinda funny really, most of the real problem are those that vehemently declare that they refer to each other as ‘they’ and will fight you for it or don’t call them he because they don’t like it, even though they are themselves *sigh*, “assuming the gem’s gender”. The main translations also somewhat contributed to this. Early fan translations called them girls because (I’ve heard) they were copying a Russian translation that more or less referred to the gems as girls very chance they had, while later translators have used male pronouns like they do in Japanese. There was this one chapter that used ‘they’, and it’s more or less the reason I don’t use it to refer to the gems-it was way too confusing to read. While the manga translators at Kodansha decided to keep things completely ambiguous by calling the gems ‘that gem’ instead actual pronouns to cleverly hide any actual identifiers... Sentai took a different route. And still failed. Sentai decided to straight up call the gems ‘they’. Now, I understand what the translators over there were going for, but calling the gems ‘they’ in canon even though you had a viable replacement is kinda odd. They even called the ‘Phos’ in episode 3 she even though the gems probably wouldn’t even know what ‘she’ even means, not to mention it’s just weird how they suddenly went from calling a fellow gem ‘they’ to ‘she’ with no problem. This problem really comes down to how people want to refer to the gems, at the cost of disregarding canon, or devaluing it, as I’ve heard people say it is an allegory not for growing up, but for being transgender, which is missing the point, since beings who don’t even know what gender is wouldn’t even consider that. The story of Houseki no Kuni about finding one’s self, but it is only concerned with one’s personality, not gender identity.

The use of "they" in English is a direct request from the author. A statement from the translators: "The whole decision to use gender neutral pronouns for all of the characters came from the series creator. Before I even started I was told that they wanted to keep the characters essentially genderless by avoiding using “he” or “she,” which really only left the option of “they” because using “it” or something horrible like that was absolutely out of the question. In the Japanese script, the characters use what is actually the generic pronoun for “he” from time to time, and a lot of the characters use what are typically considered more masculine versions of the word “I,” which is something we don’t really have in English. But it can feel as though it has a bit more room for ambiguity in Japanese, whereas in English it feels like it very clearly assigns them one way or another, which is not what the creator intended." Sentai went the route that expressed the author's direct authorial intent.

'' I purposefully used both male, female, and gender-neutral pronouns throughout the video'' *Uses he/him for 80% of the video* You used male terms WAY too much for Phos if you meant to make this a genderneutral video.

Yeah, I switched them every paragraph, but some paragraphs were longer and not focused on Phos. I think it was an interesting idea in concept, but fails in execution. I think I subconsciously included more male pronouns since I started with "she", and refer to every other gem with female pronouns

gender neutral terms are beyond retarded, refering to an individual as an "plural entity" when they sound look and act like girls

"just don't say you want to go to the moon or anything like that!"

>"fuck everyone,I just want to die."

>"Fuck all of you, I just wanted to talk"

"If only you weren't here."

Phos curiousity and desperation clouded her judgment on whether its right to trust and be loyal to sensai though in truth he did hide a few things he didnt do anything wrong so like now they're on the moon?

I just looked it up and man pho’s becomes one hell of a deranged lunatic

@@alasiadarthe001actual9 It's just a depressed rock.

@@alasiadarthe001actual9 phos is the only one who's not a "lunatic" Lmao

@@alasiadarthe001actual9 hes not a lunatic..just extremely annoyed and semi-insane due to the several splinterings he got at the hands of people he previously considered to be his own family. hell. the newest chapters...he wanted to talk to them. only to be attacked before getting a word in.

@@romanplays1, that was the breaking point.

meo bold yep Phos is a BIG MESS in the manga lol after finishing the anime, I binge read the whole manga and hoping for a season 2!! I really miss Antarcticite thou :’c

I read binge the manga too. :'v Phos is beyond fucked up at this moment that it's painful. I feel even worse toward Sensei and Cinnabar

I liked how she keeps traces of her original personality though. Even though she became like that, and is more serious, she still has a bit of her lazy attitude and dry comments. I thought it was really well done, both with how it was portrayed and how the VA played her changes.

Now it's just 'almost emotionless, dead inside' Phos :( I wants the cute Phos back.

More like Jaded, PTSD Phos.

Depends on the perspective. From a sociopathic perspective, well...

Fun fact:in feudal Chinese society, whenever a piece of pottery broke. Instead of throwing it away, they took melted gold and patched the broken parts together ,thus it gave off a bright and beautiful yellow glow from the cracks. So it's flaws made it beautiful....

Mental asylums must be infested with really "beautiful" people then...

@@violetraven8323 that's Japanese actually

I had this kind of discussion with someone earlier, and ultimately you're correct. The first season of Houseki is Phos trying to find their place, but I think they go about it in the wrong ways. Phos is clearly hurt from everything they've been through, and continues to lose precious memories due to their hardships. While Phos is more "useful", it's not something that can be sustained, and I think (I haven't read the manga so it might be more explored there) Phos has to ultimately learn to embrace her uniqueness... which means embracing her brittleness. Because one can be worthless in one aspect, but irreplaceable in another.

Then again that is a myth I'm glad is questioned here as it is interesting to see it shatter. "You should be yourself and you are special and your specialness will find a place to shine as long as you re true to yourself" that meme is ubiquitous all over media and it can be quite harmful. One is just too used to see it. Maybe one should change, maybe the world isn't yours to take and it doesn't care about you. Its at least interesting to think about.

This is very interesting to me, because I actually prefer the new Phos, even though many people have been saying they preferred the old Phos. For me, old Phos had little drive and mostly lounged around, complaining about his situation without doing anything about it. Yes, he was cute and fun, but I often found the laid-back attitude a tad frustrating as the mysterious plot was being dangled in front of me while the protagonist was designed to be a lazy character who couldn't care less. Fast forward to the end. Phos is driven, capable, but in a spiral of (essentially) self-harm because he still feels useless (or not good enough), and is racked with guilt to the extent that he can no longer sleep. I've continued on from the anime and into the manga, and without spoiling too much, the mention of how Diamond is effected when Phos changes is very interesting, because other characters undergo similar heart-wrenching developments, all with Phos at the centre. So far it seems no matter what Phos does he will never be truly satisfied in himself, and with other tragedies mounting (Antarc etc) it seems Phos will begin to view more and more of the pain around him as his own. Err... I'm starting to see why people don't like the new Phos so much. The series is going in a very tragedy-oriented direction.

cheesypoohalo Boy, the manga makes Phos suffers more. He gets a lot smarter and stronger, but looks at the cost

that's how growing up is guys, and this is why this manga's character evolution is so f'in good. it just nails it perfectly. i haven't read the manga enough to make connection with its events to event that could happen in the real world, but i know for a fact that there was no way this could end well, if phos didn't change, she'd probably be more calm, but if she didn't, a lot more people would have died... as for the usefulness thing, let's not forget that she did get a job before changing body, and while not very well, it was still working to an extent... just in the wrong way, but it still was, so she wasn't completely useless, especially when we consider these are gems not flesh beings, it is true to say that they are useful just being alive, as they are practically immortal, they are living encyclopedias of the world history and things for how they know it... which in a way or another, makes phos actually less useful like she is now on th elong run. or at least that's the case untile i read volume 7(or was it 6?), because fuck spoilers and fuck 4chan who did that to me(as well as the manga cover itself i guess :\ )

Giotis Filopanos I have not thought of that last part. That’s pretty cool. Nice!

well shit my eyes are open

You actually (in the recent chapters) see what would be if the gems didn't had to fight example is Bortz, whithout getting into detailed spoilers, Lunarians didn't show up for a long time so she was keeping (or farming) jellyfish

@@lilpretzel5629 meanwhile Dia gets "everything she wants" but it isnt what she needed

It’s in a way, like modern humans . People don’t hunt to survive anymore, and are often focused on their purpose in a meaningless effort

Gray Au i hope the manga emulates that same idea

What are u thinking about the manga right now? The last chapter reveals so freaking much so go read it if you haven't already

I know...I chatched up to it 😭😭😭 so many questions, I really hate the Lunarian prince and new Ghost, and Dia just became crazy and Yellow Dia wants to kill herself, and Phos I know he suffered for 280 something years, Phos probably is 600+ y/o and shit hit the fan , he now want to kill them all and Cinnobar😢😭😭💔

That part about cinnabar appreciating the old phos hits harder after the manga panel when phos melds with cinnabars alloy and sees their old self, calling them "adorable". The fact that it took loosing themself completely to appreciate who they were is heartbreaking.

and i see myself more as her latter... not because she changed, but because of to what extremes she puts herself in front of others when it comes to sacrifice. in fact, i see so much myself in post-winter-arc phos, that it pains me to see what people think of her at that point of the anime/manga. though i guess that explains the mentality i got lately of "nothing is right for anyone, everything is wrong, yet people accept what's wrong as right, while others do the opposite in a convoluted mess of hypocrisy and logical fallacies" it just fucking sucks, don't get that point, just try to make yourself better for yourself, only then you should start thinking about others, if you don't, you'll end up as phos, as me, and you won't conclude nothing that you desired for. in other(longer) words, think about yourself first, but not from an outer perspective, just do what you think you want to do in any case for yourself and that in no way could hurt you or anyone else, (like for example: if one wants to be less fat to appeal to a girl, rather than doing it for "getting" her which would in many cases end up hurting the person and make the girl feel bad about it, think why not lose it for what you could do for yourself with it? living more time with whom you love for example, or maybe just to gain access to new experiences you would've had a hard time with or couldn't at all before; perspective change, point is still less or more the same, but it changes a lot the end result so that you woun't be affected by what others think of you about that action and eventual result of your choice, this makes the care go to yourself and to a mindset of "i wouldn't hurt myself when what i'm doing is making myself be protected and bettered by myself"... it's a bit complicated, though mainly because of how i am terrible at explaining stuff, read it at least 3 times) then think about what more you could do for others or for others accepting you ONLY after that, if you want, others are people with emotions too, and the same goes for you from their perspective. humans are complex creatures with even more complex emotions and state of minds, which is why concerning too much for others before yourself to too much an extreme will usually end up with a miserable failure.

よしうらNoodle dont fear change. It will come for you whether you fear it, or fight it. Change is constantly happening.

Eh. You'll find yourself at the fucked up stage one day, when you come across the dilemma of 'life or lie' Actually feels okay, provided you don't go around destroying people

@@ordinarytree4678 there is a difference between change and giving up what made you, you.

@@andresmarrero8666 *Houseki no Kuni Spoiler ahead! Spoiler! Spoiler! Spoiler! You have been warned!* Heurhv dhaj bshduf jfbf hjf jdhsj sjedsG UGf FFg ghiV fdD gHBV gGH HB Phos not only lost chunks of her legs and arms like in the anime, but also her whole head later on in the manga. They gave her a new head that belonged to Amethyst. And even later on in the manga one of her eyes was gouged out only to be replaced by a fake lunarian eye. Yes, that's right. Phos' journey is not done yet! She was dressed like a lunarian, acted for the benefit of all gems, had her legs replaced with Agate, her arms replaced with Gold, her head replaced with Lapis Lazuli and her eye replaced with lunarian technology. She began to exhibit an irrational/unstable behaviour every now and then because of all the mismatch parts on her body. I like Phos as a character but I don't see her change was because she wanted to improve herself. It was something that was forced upon her, whether she liked it or not, and destroys her from within. The pressure society puts on you so that you get accepted or the ugliness of people that try to change who you really are gets conveyed visually and emotionally through this series. I love Houseki no Kuni but I feel sorry for Phos. In the manga later on, just in the span of three chapters, her head "exploded" with arcs of gold holding the pieces everywhere at least a few times. Her face would crack and bled gold streams. There is less of Phos now than there was ever before, and the depiction of an adult's lost childhood is very obvious in this case

If it is so beautiful, then why is it so twisted and ugly?

@@andresmarrero8666 I guess it's the same thing as with the "ugly cute" trope. Those contrasts are surprisingly close to one another and entirely subjective. What might be beautiful to some is disgusting to others. A well written and executed tragedy or death of a beloved character might also be called "beautiful" by some. People collect phosphophyllite for the way it breaks after all. The gem's previous form gets destroyed but we still think of the process as beautiful.

It reminds me of the way of thinking of the bad guy of the movie "Split."

@@sevcrycat oh the dude with a multiple personality disorder?

If you read the manga you will see that after the gold replacement everything goes down for him. He basically becomes a monster

**PROTECC HER HARDNESS**

She protecc She atacc But most importantly She cracc

he can protect herself better than a bunker could lmao

fyi they refer to themselves with masculine pronouns, meaning they supposedly identify as males

Pronoun correction are the worst part of this fanbase.

*sobbing in last 5 chapters*

Ikr lmao

LOL this sounds exactly like me! I kept holding off on it too because of the title. I didn't want to hear someone completely bashing on the anime because Phos, the MC, was worthless. But when I finally decided to watch it, I was pleasantly surprised. XD

People are dumb

hibye201 I think she isn't so emotionally affected by the loosing of memories by the simple fact that. You can't know what you have forgotten. When Cinnabar said that Phos promised a "more Fun" job not just a new job I was really sad. I was like "yeah that was ol Phos all right, and she's gone".

And to add to what you said, I feel that the world Haruko Ichikawa created really does suit the lesson embodied by our protaganist. I mean, holistically speaking, you can't have you're MC lose his head and then be fine afterwards.... because (manga spoiler alert) you took the head of someone else. This part is especially symbolic in that it's LITTERALLY taking in another person's perception/point of view. I mean, what better way to emphasize that than the scenario like this? Her arms and legs are of course a different story, but we can agree that each loss and gain is in some form symbolism to another bigger more well-rounded idea that we should learn. However, I do have to say that (although not anyone being wrong) this plan starts to falter farther in the series, and although maybe due to my misunderstanding of the story's goal, that down the line (near the Lunarian Contact) it does get a muddy in terms of if the lessons prior apply. I just hope that the story goes down a path that's both enjoyable and unpredictable (because who would want the opposite of those?).

Mason Shen I totally agree with you on all your points. There's one that I'm still unsure of a stand yet-the whole portion on the symbolism faltering. There's only one major plot hole thus far-the lack of inclusions within Phos's new head. We've learned from the King of Lunarians that the gems they sent back are only mimics, fakes. They lack all inclusions that made the Gems gems. However, Sapphire's memories seem to be intact due to the trace amount of inclusions in the head piece. This is quite literally impossible to occur seeing how it breaks the rules the writer has made this far. However, if we apply your reasoning-that it should be seen more symbolically than literal-I guess the plot hole kinda makes sense? This is stretching your reasoning to the extreme limits but still seems plausible, no?

(SPOILERS) It's not a plot hole at all. Ghost Quartz saved Lapis Lazuli's head when the rest of them was taken away by the lunarians. There were plenty of inclusions in that head, hell, they even speak to Phos in their sleep.

it all falls down when you remember that zircon litterally killed themselves anytime they could to make it seem they saved yellow, when yellow couldn't even be scratched by the arrows. phos simply doesn't care about being hurt, she just want for others to not be hurt... actually, that just made me realzie something critically important about my own life, gonna come back later.

Hmm, interesting. Although there are countless themes in Houseki no Kuni, as with any other story, I think finding value in oneself is just one of them, but an essential one, considering how Phos values herself so little she willingly gives herself up to King (the slug) to be used against the Lunarians and also contemplates chopping her arms off. However, you're right, she also doesn't seem to value the other gems much. She definitely cares about all of the gems, but she doesn't realize just how much they've done for her. She's lost a lot of herself and her memories, that may also be why. But overall, perhaps the very reason she doesn't value others is BECAUSE she doesn't value herself in the first place. It's like the idea that, in order to love others, you have to love yourself first, and she doesn't love herself. So for her to value the other gems when she can't even value herself, it makes sense. :o

Hmm, interesting. Although there are countless themes in Houseki no Kuni, as with any other story, I think finding value in oneself is just one of them, but an essential one, considering how Phos values herself so little she willingly gives herself up to King (the slug) to be used against the Lunarians and also contemplates chopping her arms off. However, you're right, she also doesn't seem to value the other gems much. She definitely cares about all of the gems, but she doesn't realize just how much they've done for her. She's lost a lot of herself and her memories, that may also be why. But overall, perhaps the very reason she doesn't value others is BECAUSE she doesn't value herself in the first place. It's like the idea that, in order to love others, you have to love yourself first, and she doesn't love herself. So for her to value the other gems when she can't even value herself, it makes sense. :o

SPOILER! You mistaken something. Phos didnt losing her mind. She just acted differently, because she realized his carefreeness just make peoples(Antarc) "die" around him. So he started to act more "mature", but when he even lost Ghost aswell, he realized it doesnt matter if hes carefree or mature, so she shocked and changed her personality to a more balanced way between the original carefree, and the "mature".

What I learned is "Change is Suffering" and I am really suffering because of the latest chapter! 😭

sladikk and you would think that a diamond with hardness 10 would be indestructible in battle

Malisia Hopkins hardness is different from toughness or durability. Hardness is the ability of an object to resist getting scratches and abrasions; toughness is the general ability to not get shattered or broken on impact.

Dandroid Does ohhhh, that makes sense

Yes

Dia's corruption literally gave me goosebumps.

@@kristoffer2250 when there were fighting and aiming to basically kill Bort I felt my ship sink. This was the same with Cinnabar and Phos ;-; my ships are sinking all around meeeeeeee

@@missclaire8673 where do you read it ? I’m looking for a website to find scans

@@hannemanisunderrated5610 just look up "houseki no kuni manga" on Google and the first link should take you to a site where you can read the manga

@@missclaire8673 yay thanks

yup, people complained he wasn't consistent, but try to remember when to use which pronoun when your mind say female, what you read says male and what you know is right is neither of the two, it is confusing and it would be for the gems too if thye had a concept of gender as deeply ingrained in their community as it is for us humans. also honestly, houseki is a nightmare for translators that have to translate in a non-gender-neutral language, especially when it comes to the names.

That's actually a common thing in some Japanese households! There exists an ideology called "wabi-sabi", basically the celebration of wear and tear. Things are commonly repaired in a way that shows off it's imperfections, because it shows that its been thoroughly used and loved. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi

Wabi-sabi, I think it's called.

Lol I’ll admit I was too!

but she is! :o

I think even if not Phos's intent, it is inherently symbolic. But you bring up a great point, and there's a certain poignancy with using different parts of yourself to repair and patch yourself up. Thanks for the praise!

telosanton: Phos did say that he wanted to take up Antarc’s appearance, Phos just conveniently has to cut his hair because if the cracks throughout.

(They actually did say that in the anime.)

But she also says that the gold would eventually end up pulling it out anyway, so it's probably as a way to tell herself that she had changed, that she got more mature

André Marchesini But Phos DID mature. He has seen growth from this experience, and wants to honor his teacher in the only ways he can think of. And as long as he’s careful his gold won’t break him.

Well I think Phos is also a little depressed because she lost Antarc, someone who was patient in teaching her. Ugh the pain of losing Antarc ahhh

You should see her now....just barely resembling a person

Ugly mess indeed, though it begs the question, should we still even call him "Phos" now that there is only 40-30% of Phosphopyllite left in himself apart from his hollowed torso with the gold alloy?

@@justdont.5522 What else would we call her? I see no reason to call her anything else.

That's why I'm hoping for a season 2! I was a little disappointed with how Phos was taking it after winter, but slowly you can kind of see their old personality shine back through. I think they're going to learn eventually to come into their own, rather than trying to be something different

I think it's fine, though it confused the shit out of me from beginning to end.

orochimarujes See, now, I came off as quite harsh in my original comment with the way I said it, but I stand by what I said. And I'm proud of people who actually only mentioned it in passing (or just didn't mention it at all) and commented on the actual content of this video (because the whole comment section wasn't bad & there seem to be more[?] people who commented about the analysis). I wasn't at all confused. I heard every point made and it all sounded fluid to me. See, pronouns aren't the same as names. Although they're fairly important to one's identity/who they want others to see them as/how they see themselves, they aren't as important as names. Whenever a different character was being spoken of, their name was brought up, as many times as it was necessary to reinforce that *that* was the character being talked about. So it might be a bit more difficult to understand, but not impossible. And if that was the issue, people should present it that way rather than bringing up arguments for which pronoun *they* want used for the characters &/or whining about "omg just pick, is it a boy or girl¿¿¿???". It's a point that should be brought up in passing rather than being the only thing one remarks on for pure annoyance. Then again. It is the internet and people on it have that sort of "fuck all" attitude where they forget the positive points of something once they find something they think is "negative" about it.

pianizutto I have to say, while it is heartbreaking to see Phos the way she was after winter, it just deepened the love I had for the show. For me, I didn't quite mind seeing this different, dimmer side of Phos. It kind of reminded me of myself, and the changes I went through in personality during difficult times. This show is so beautiful. And they used the CG so f*cking well. :') I know I shouldn't be wishing for Season 2 BUT PLEASE.... I'M GONNA DIE IF I DON'T SEE MORE....

I do kind of agree with you on the pronoun thing. But it can get confusing. A couple of times I thought he just started talking about someone else at random when he was still talking about phos. The inconsistency is kind of confusing.

クソナード I know, right?! 😀 The character writing is too good, man. 😁 Btw, if it’s not too much to ask, may I also rewatch it with you somewhere else other than here if that’s alright with you? Because I also love anime and manga as much as you do just to let you know. 😊

LunarStarGirl345 What? I don't know how that's even possible but you can download it from Horrible Subs in HD.

Oh, sorry if I confused you about that. :/ What I meant to say was that we could download and rewatch them again through Skype or Discord voice chat if you don't mind. :)

LunarStarGirl345 umm that's what I thought, but my pc is terrible, the video would get lagged, not to mention I have some attention problems, so always I need to repeat some scenes. But if you just want a friend then my discord is brdegenerate#8439 (I'm not sure if that's how you add someone though).

Yeah, that's fine with me. Sorry if I embarrassed you into doing this. It was not my intention really, so I'm sorry if this was weird to you. :( It's just that it ain't fair or cool where I don't have that many friends to watch much anime with these days if you know what I mean..:/

I'm about the start Konohana's last episode soon! It's been a great watch

Phos is neither guy nor girl!

atenahena. Actually, all of the gems are sexless, but they use male pronouns c:

they look alot like wamen tho

atenahena. Actually, the anime made them look a little more femenine. By enchancing their hips, but in the manga they look way more androginous. The mangaka made their chest flat, like men and curvy hips, like women They have no genitals, but they identify as males and refer to themselves as that

huh, ok, i just thoguht cuz they sounded and acted like girls

eh..... nah, not really, this isn't really visible in the anime because it ends early but... that's not at all the point houseki tries to make, more like the opposite.

iota-09 I just thought it was a great quote from the video, even if it does not appear as strong in the anime. :)

4anime.to is a really good site

HIDrive

dnE eM Does pronouns matter that much...?

Justin time I mean, you don't see tits tho lol

They are sexless

It's more clear in the manga and in general when they are showing some cleavage, but they're pretty androgynous

The gems have no gender. Some people argue using male pronouns because that was the translation of the manga and how all the gems in Japanese use male pronouns. Other people think "They" since then there is no gender but it can get confusing when talking about multiple characters. Finally are the people who use female pronouns because of how they look (top half is supposed to be male looking) and sound and refer to them as "she". It is a tough one.

And I like your comment!

Sorry! I was afraid it'd be grating, see my pinned comment for my intent. I'll be sure to be more considerate if I make more videos about Houseki in the future.

My God You sound like an LGBT spokesperson X(

Despite being genderless the gems themselves tend to use masculine pronouns when speaking to one another. I don't think they have a proper concept of gender so I think it's fair game to refer to them any which way.

they are female and anyone saying otherwise is living in a lie, including the mangaka shame, its a good show and could be lived up to proudly.

Willy Wonka So, the original creator of the series doesn't know the characters she has made, but somehow, for some reason, a random person within this world knows? You think too highly of your own opinion on the subject.

i think they might be androgynous

No

I think it's on Amazon prime.

@@Lucy-bd6us aw, dang. Thanks tho

You can watch it on 4anime.to for free :)

or 'they/them'. It refers to an object, they/them refers to non-specified or prolonging pronouns.

They are also genderless.

actually, they use "they/them" pronouns- even in the manga i believe

It implies no consciousness, no sentience of life. They are conscious, even self-conscious of themselves and very conscious of other's. They are very much alive. You don't call a pet it.

What I call my cat it all the time? huh

Mecks089 Actually, in the manga most of the gems featured use male pronouns They're indeed sexless, but not genderless

Japanese has no true gender neutral pronoun. They most likely use male pronouns since it's the closest possible to genderless, but the gems themselves have no concept of gender

Don't forget that Yevo was a schlee.

thank you kami, thank you. if they had genderless pronouns, they'd use genderless pronouns, if they had pronouns for objects too(like italian) and gems were a female pronoun, they would've used female pronouns, that's just how it would've been, that's just how oblivious to genders the gems are.

The gems bodies are not female. Their upper body is male and the lower body ( they don't have genitals so we have to assume just the butts are ) female . The creator of the manga stated this herself so it's not just me spouting nonsense. And not all the gems act female. Yellow diamond, bortz, Morganite ( if you dont count him/them as the tomboy type ), Cairngorm ( Spoiler for the manga ), I guess antarc, Peridot ( who doesn't get much if any screentime ), and Padparadscha are examples of gems with masculine mannerisms and personalities and with the exception of morganite and Bortz ( until spoilers later in the manga ) male-ish presentation. If your point is that because you think they lokk femwle and sound female ( Yellow Diamond doesn't sound female at all ) then they should be regarded as female doesn't work. Also sounding female doesn't mean being female since the existence of male characters that have female voice actors and sound feminine voices exist. Also, the gems can fluctuate between gender presentation. Phos has done it before and began to look more masculine post-hair cut though personality wise Phos was always bratty and boyish.

I'm of the opinion that it doesn't hurt or harm anybody, considering that the gems don't have gender. If the show was some allegory for trans individuals yes, but Houseki doesn't delve into that area.

no, it's just that people want consistency, there's who wants it for gramar, whom for political correctness, others because "that's how they said it in japanase"(afaik, japanase doesn't have gender neutral pronouns) and other just because that's how they see the characters and want everyone to do the same. in the end, is stil doesn't fucking matter as they are still genderless, and that is shown by how they have so many traits both girly and manly and nobody cares in that community.

Nope. Theyre making a movie tho... The cashwhores...