If you're also interested in Immich photos and videos self-hosting, have a look at my video at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-dQqrVzgnf2E.html or LibrePhotos at ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-OR9woMt5fHQ.html
Thank you very much for Photoprism verus Piwigo. 11:35 You can convert your mov files without reincode it that handbrake does. here is an example: "ffmpeg -i input.mov -c copy -movflags +faststart output.mp4"
Thank you for this comparison! The AI functionality is of great importance to me. Such a pity Piwigo does not have it as it seems to be better overall.
Yes I'm still not seeing plugins for AI on Piwigo. It does have face tagging, location tagging, and of course manual tagging, but that is not really automated. I do still like that it has photosphere and panorama viewing that not many seem to have.
Wow I always though Photoprism was the best ... but after seing this video and the "25 dollar sponsor for activate the map" and the manage editions of Piwigo ... changed my mind. I'm going for Piwigo now. Photoprism don't even detected right the faces.
Yes pity about that as I love the look and feel of Photoprism. Just be aware with Piwigo that the only issues really are with old plugins, so try pick those that are newer and up to date if you want to use any plugins. Or if there are any issues, disable plugins and test.
Hi, Im a photographer and I currently take photos of about 1500 kids/youths each semester. To identify each person and their set of photos, Im using lightroom face recognition but it is really slow and you have to manually agree on disagree each face so it can become a really slow process so I was looking for alternatives to that and I found your video. Do you think this tool could be to any use in my case? Thanks!
They could but testing yourself is always best - but I can't say what performance would be like. I'm busy right now having a look at Immich and want to do a video within the next week about that photo hosting service as it has progressed a lot in the last few months, and can now also import from existing photo libraries. It also supports RAW formats. I'll then be testing its face recognition specifically for my 11,000+ photos. Immich may be the better option right now, as I'm worried that Piwigo plugins seem to be losing support as the community devs shift to other platforms. A lot of Piwigo's power is actually in its community plugins.
Nicely done! The paywall on pothoprism might be a game changer. Have you tried Immich ? Have any opinion on that? I am currently looking for a self hosted photo management tool, and all these 3 seems the biggest options right now. Cheers!
Yes I've been having a serious look at Immich the last month. It is one of the best options out there right now. It does lack some of the rich features the Piwigo plugins have, but Immich is quite new and still adding features. My biggest challenge is how to get my existing 10,000+ photos into Immich. I really need some import function as it is going to be a tall order redoing all those captions, tags, etc. If I was a new user tho, I'd go now with Immich I think.
@@GadgeteerZA Thanks, that is very useful. That is why I am going to test them all, before choosing one. Once you are comited and have all your pics in there, it becomes painful to move towards something else. Thanks for sharing!
Great video and comparison! Thank you for the details!!! One minor question, when setting up Piwigo with the shared MariaDB and no exposed ports, I'm hitting a wall with the installation where the DB Host field is presented. I've tried the container name (per your suggestion to my other question and your video) but no dice. Suggestion or thoughts?
Hi there James, yes your question had me a bit confused as I found no setup for the database in the docker-compose file. But my Piwigo database is definitely in the shared database, and updated today. So I checked docs.linuxserver.io/images/docker-piwigo again and recall that the database location and login details are set when logging into Piwigo first time. I see there they mention using an IP address, but looking at my Portainer, shows only an IP address with no published ports. So looked up the database.inc.php file that is saved in _data/local/config/ mapped folder. These are my settings: $conf['dblayer'] = 'mysqli'; $conf['db_base'] = 'piwigo'; $conf['db_user'] = 'root'; $conf['db_password'] = 'yourDBpassword'; $conf['db_host'] = 'db'; $prefixeTable = 'piwisb_'; define('PHPWG_INSTALLED', true); define('PWG_CHARSET', 'utf-8'); define('DB_CHARSET', 'utf8'); define('DB_COLLATE', ''); So host will just be db if that is what the container name is of your container with DB in. You should probably also just create an empty database called piwigo in your DB using phpMyAdmin. Make sure that the root user in DB has rights to the piwigo database. That should do it then. But create the empty database before trying to connect to it from the Piwigo startup.
@@GadgeteerZA Danie, thanks for the long answer! However, I think my issue was not using a case sensitive spelling on the container name. Nothing needed with the PHP files. I did have the db setup in the MariaDB instance with root access. Regardless, I'm sorted and can keep going. Love your explanations and content!!!
OK one othe rthing I can mention also is that both containers must be on the same containers network to be visible using the container name. If the Piwigi one is not, you can add the network name of the db container from within Portainer. But OK you are sorted I see so glad it all came right (one way or the other).
Nice review. I've long used piwigo for some private databases, but am considering a simple public gallery. Would you mind telling what theme and/or plug-in you use to have the galleries display the map at the top? Cheers.
I was very keen to try photoprism - but it looks like it is open in the same way Plex is! And I have just switched from plex to jellyfin because of the paywalls. I had previously tried piwigo but ended up using pigallery2 because I was using a low powered pi2.
@@GadgeteerZA Actually I remembered the real problem I had was that I had set up lots of my directories with spaces in their name and it took me a while to realise that piwigo couldn't handle that. Any workaround would require significant work - whereas pigallery2 was very fast and allowed users to be setup without admin authority plus it also handles face tags (I use digikam since the demise of Windows Photo Gallery).
Thanks for the video. It was a very informative comparison of PhotoPrism and Piwigo. I had used PhotoPrism before and was not impressed. I will try Piwigo. I'd be interested in your thoughts on the add-ins for Piwigo. Which ones do you use and why? Which ones have you tried and decided not to use? If you've already done this - is there a link?
Yes I should actually show what, and why, Piwigo extensions I use. Immich is another good option to look at. I'm thinking about doing a video about Immich, and maybe then I can also show my Piwigo extensions. Piwigo's big niche, is its extensions actually - the power of the community.
Hi, no I did not look at it at all, and the reason was probably because it was not proper open source software. I was looking for "no strings" usage. So, not really aware of how its feature attributes compare: "You may not separately publish, sell, market, distribute, lend, lease, rent, or sublicense the Product, software code, or license keys. The Product is licensed, not sold."
super nice, I am testing both now, sharing my folder from NAS, without importing (not touching the original folders)- just indexing. Lets see where it goes - I have close to 1TB of pictures - it will take ages to index them all. Of course this AI in Photoprism is ... blabla but ok, lets see - eventually it is for free.
Sounds great! Let us know how it goes. I actually want to test out another photo hosting service for comparison soon too. The biggest challenge for me is trying to import what I already have with Piwigo as everything is captioned, in albums, etc, and it is over 11,000 images.
@@GadgeteerZA so, after 7h of continuous 100% of CPU (I assigned 12 CPU for this VM), 12 000 pictures are indexed (I put docker folder on SSD, pictures are on HDD on the same TrueNAS). So I will know in around 2 days ;-). I am afraid - from my experience -that exchange of info between 2 totally different environments will end up in.. "let me do it from the scratch". I started testing Piwigo in docker but apparently docker compose file from docker hub has only the config for Piwigo - not for underlying layers (db etc.) OK, one thing at the time - Prism comes first ;-)
True on migrating. One thing that can help is saving captions, tags, etc as far as possible into the EXIF data of each image, if the newer app can read/use that EXIF data. I seem to recall Piwigo (or am I thinking of DigiKam) did allow writing of that data into EXIF data (like geolocation is used).
@@GadgeteerZA I started taking digital pictures around 2000. Since then I tried many programs that were supposed to be a catalogue - even ACDsee (if I am not mistaken), digikam, few others. Even PS. 23 years later I have... nothing, except all pictures in the proper folders: country->year->month - eh, there is no continuity with the software
Have you ever tried any personal finance software like firefly III? I only saw tutorials on how to install it, but no deep analysis like yours over the internet. Love your videos 🤩
Thanks for that compliment, yes I have. I was using MoneyDance for many years as a very slick app that had imported my data from a Microsoft product. But it was paid for, and about two years ago I did a full comparison of what I was looking for, and switched to open source KMyMoney. Still pretty happy with it. I did a post about that move at gadgeteer.co.za/finally-moved-proprietary-moneydance-finance-manager-free-and-open-source-kmymoney/. I see I did not look at Firefly III though, maybe because I was looking at desktop apps.
I just wish there was an easy way to migrate any photos with albums and captions, between different services. Once you have 1,000's of photos, it becomes difficult to do so.
Mmm I see so from www.photoprism.app/kb/personal#access-control and also some comments on Reddit. Seems to require payment even for self-hosted instances. Maybe have a look at my videos also on Immich and LibrePhotos as better options.
Immich is one of the best yes, but I was looking at it about two weeks back, and think I was going to have an issue with getting my 10,000+ photos into it. There was no easy import option from Piwigo (Piwigo had easily imported all my 10,000 photos directly from Flickr before). But for new users, Immich is probably the best option.
