If i had the money i would buy a better pc and maybe a laptop, but no more than one each, why would you want more? maybe there is a real reason, or would it be only cuz u can?
@@JimLahey77 I strongly disagree. Working in this field for almost ten years and I admit I might be slightly biased, but after building loads of infrastructures that run fine to this day with many concurrent users in all kinds of environments I'm wondering what made you come to this conclusion. Are you talking about running VMs on your Desktop machine or at a larger scale?
Do you agree? Or have you got examples of apps or use cases that require access to hardware directly? Based on some of the comments, remember that if you are saying that virtualization is bad, then you are implying that you would buy four computers in this example instead of one. Also note that I am not saying you should use a Mac. I am showing an example of virtualization. I do use other platforms including ESXi and what I use depends on the usecase.
I have found a few devices which do seem to require bare metal access - usually CAD/CAM software in industry which requires a physical hardware key for DRM authentication, often parralel or serial port originally, that refused passthough. In many cases this can be worked around by assigning a USB controller to the VM solely and working out what motherboard ports each controller hosts
Retro gaming comes to mind David. MS-DOS games to be specific. There were certain games that wouldn't run right if you didn't have a Sound Blaster audio card. Others would requiere an Adlib audio card. I know that nowadays, DOSBOX is able to emulate those audio chipsets, but I believe the example still stands.
It does makes sense but in order to do that your going to need a laptop that is as expensive ass all of those combined. I9 128G RAM ETC. Most laptops with that hardware are around $5000?
What I do is I have a usb drive with basically every live boot iso on it, and can choose from them whenever I need. (Ventoy) For the security people, if needed you can just grab and throw. As long as the computer supports usb 3, I haven’t noticed any problems.
Can you implement several on one USB without getting a crash? I had a idea like this but in the end I just got 5 or 6 several USBs and then they got lost when I moved...
And my gf threw away my password paprr becose it looked like gibberish to her so she didnt think it was important so the usb that warent lost, I couldnt use anyway lol
Nice work.. just came across this. I have over 100 VM's for testing.. going all the way back to DOS4, about 2 dozen linux distros, and yes even MAC VM's (takes some effort to run MAC OS on PC version of VMware but it is doable
Agreed. There are cases for installing directly on bare metal, but in most cases VMs work well. Any specific software you are using that requires a bare metal install?
Forgot one thing :) Mac has issues and causes problems with virtual Linux machines... The 2nd thing is - U need a really well equipped computer to run multiple virtual WIN machines simultaneously... btw no matter how strong Your hardware is - it gets limited to VM's software settings ... e.g. password cracking capabilities on VMs seem like a demo of what the generic hardware machine can do ........ same with network ....
This advice is sort of missing the point of virtualization on personal hardware as it's mostly used to run programs that need certain OS. Therefore finding alternative programs for your OS or trying to get them to run as natively as possible on your OS before trying to virtualize will make them run much better as they will use your full hardware without limitations.
Virtualisation feels so wrong but it works so well. Graphical fluency is of course the weakness. But in rare cases you get decent graphical acceleration. CPU performance is basically unaffected. Memory slightly. Disk performance is affected the most (apart from graphics). Network performance is not affected at all.
VMs are okay if you don't need great performance for a desktop. Servers are much better target for VMs. I have run multiple virtual desktop OSes before, but they weren't as capable as bare metal.
I am not saying that you should do this on a Mac. I am simply showing an example of virtualization. I do this on other platforms including ESXi or the cloud.
This is dumb. Unless you need 10s or 100s of low-resource VMs,its always better to have a separate machine for each OS. Nothing beats bare-metal performance.Also good virtualisation software with high-speed 3D performance costs more than all of these laptops...a month!
I have Linux and Hackintosh (took some time learning driver stuff) on m’y laptop and use cloud computing for Windows (30€ month). Tried vm and was awfully slow.
I prefer to run them directly on hardware, less abstraction is always better, that is why C is still the best programming language. The main problem with virtualization is that it requires beefy hardware. And if I'm going to virtualize something is not going to be on a mac. Is going to be on Linux where a virtualized macos runs faster than a macos on intel. Virtualization is great for the paranoid life with QubesOS
Virtualizing is never as good as bare metal. Every OS has a list of things that just don’t work well virtualized. Virtualization is good for testing and having a bit of fun but I’d way rather have my 3 laptops, one for each OS. Even on my desktop with double the ram of my laptops, if I virtualized and assigned more ram than the bare metal setup, it won’t run as well. Sure there are some benefits, but nothing beats bare metal setups in my experience when you actually want to use the OS and not just test or play around. I also prefer the dedicated hardware because I tend to use them more. Each laptop is its own little lab setup. I don’t like when the main machine has a problem now your stuck without any setup at all.
I'm just a layman but isn't it really difficult virtualizing powerful graphics? I care about playing games, does it make sense to virtualize for this purpose?
don't you mean is the opposite? virtualizing them is the inefficient way because they run slower, well maybe not the windows98 because even in a virtualbox it has more resources and cpu cycles than in a pentium chip. but for everyone else it sucks. I prefer to run windows 98 in an old ibm thinkpad
Yeah well you’re not talking about input lag, choppy video and overall bad performance on VMs. Better to explain that before people install virtual box with 10 different os on it
Well that's unless you want the security issues when you're running windows 98 I'll put that thing on anything CCP wouldn't want to hack my sh* cuz it's already opened 😭
bro i wanna know can we hack a wifi from termux?? if yes then how i also want to root my phone without a pc included in process i tried some apps but they failed my phone is tecno spark 7 kf6k
Can you run a Mac on a PC host? I thought the entire Apple headline was that the hardware and the software are designed together to work in unity. And can you just get a Mac license and run it on a PC?
In this example, I'm using VMware Fusion, but there are lots of options. Watch this video showing examples: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7GGLi10sHDs.html
Really depends on what you want to do. I think most people have a preference like Windows for games, Mac for graphics or blender or apps like that, Linux for a large number of tasks etc. All have strengths and weaknesses.
if are willing to learn just go for Linux, if you want the "just works system" go for Windows, in any case don't ever use Mac, it's just an overpriced scam like most things that Apple made
@@n124ajdx 👍🏼 agree but don't really buy into "have to learn" comment on linux that I hear often. I jumped in with no explanation and just installed Debian on a new laptop having never used *nix before. I'm not very tech savvy but it was almost seamless from the start. Plus learning to use bash, awk, sed efficiently was really rewarding as opposed to a drag. Plus you can get away without learning most of that anyway. Just my. 02. That was almost 15yrs ago and I've not used a windoz or mac even once since. And yes, Apple makes overpriced fluff
I disagree with this. In my experience I've found that an Apple Mac is a good middle ground between Linux and Windows. I would love to use Linux for everything, but a lot of apps that I need including video editing don't run on Linux. I've also found that the M1/M2 changes the game with regards to Apple laptops - much better battery life, much cooler, much quieter etc compared to Intel. I use Windows, Linux, macOS, Cisco IOS, iOS, Android, ESXi and many other operating systems. All have good and bad, but each to their own :)
Ali - See this video of me virtualizing ARM and emulating X86/X64 VMs on a M2 Macbook air: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7GGLi10sHDs.html - however, I think if you want to virtualize x86/x64, then M1/M2 is probably not the way to go in my experience.
@@davidbombal you think I’m crazy to still use my old 2011 retina model MacBook Pro with only 8gb ram and I have no idea what chipset but it still runs, I’ve also got the iMac desktop i7 with 64 go RAM lol but I still love my old MacBook Pro
Hi...Which one is more efficient to run multiple os according to you......vmware or aws....i have read somewhere vmware ruin ram& memory in longterm so i am using aws to run Ubuntu...... please share your view
Happy to hear that! It's just another option in our toolbox. Sometimes bare metal is best, other times virtualization :) Use the best tool for the job.
@@davidbombal Yup, also when you are young brat with all the time to spare on separate bare metal machines but no money and later in your life maybe having deep pockets but no time :) Catch 22 for most, ain’t it just brutally beautiful life :) Cheers !
*Please do a video on the outcome/and or opinions of the recent lay-off news circulating from the Big Tech giants if you would be kind, as I feel it would keep novices intrigued in still pursuing these types of careers. Thank you 😊.*
the best part is if the computer is stolen or dies, you lose everything. Also if you want to use screens at once you can't. For the price of that mac you can have multiple computers running linux with redundant virtual machines.
