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Physics 23 Calorimetry (4 of 5) Known Final State 

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In this video I will show you how to calculate the final temperature of the water in a bucket when steam and ice are added.

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@zahrahussain7577
@zahrahussain7577 6 лет назад
hi my name is Zahra and I am 15 yrs old , and I am Saudi I just want to say that thank you very much for all your videos, here In Saudi we have a SAUDI team for the international physics Olympiad(IPHO) and I am part of it and all of my friend watch you all the time and find you very helpful I am very grateful,thank you
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
Welcome to the channel and thank you for sharing.
@rajeev1768
@rajeev1768 5 лет назад
you are the god of physics. All hail Michael van biezen👏👏
@theultimatereductionist7592
@theultimatereductionist7592 4 года назад
I worked half a year in calorimetry research studying the explosively exothermic polymerization of acrylic acid to make plexiglas at Rohm & Haas Research Division in Pennsylvania in the 1980s!
@Warm6969
@Warm6969 6 лет назад
your clips always helps sir
@TrushInTheBush
@TrushInTheBush 10 лет назад
Your videos are brilliant! Thank you (Y)
@tsoojbaterdene7793
@tsoojbaterdene7793 3 года назад
The first liquid temperature is 20°C Mass=m1 Heat capacity of the liquid is 4000J/kg°C The second liquid temperature is 80°C Mass=m2 Heat capacity of the liquid is 1000J/kg°C When those liquid are mixed together,Final temperature of the mixture becomes 30°C How to find m1/m2,Sir?
@victoriaseras5157
@victoriaseras5157 7 лет назад
Hello Mr. Biezen, Thank you very much for the awesome videos, they are life-saving for students like me :) I have a similar problem and I would really appreciate it if you could help me understand it. In my problem I think the amount of steam is more than enough to melt all the ice, but I am having a hard time finding what the final equilibrium condition is (in terms of temperature and state of water). of course the final temp. will be 100 degrees C, but would the final state be a mixture of boiling water and steam at 100 degrees C? and if so, how much steam is present at equilibrium? the problem: 20 g of steam at 100 degrees C are added to 40 g of ice in a 30 g lead vessel, both of which are at -10 degrees C. determine the final equilibrium condition. note: specific heat of lead is 0.0306 cal/g.C.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
It turns out that 68.5 % of the steam will turn into water at 100 degrees and 31.5 % of the steam remains as steam. The ice will melt and the melted water will also reach 100 degrees as will the lead.
@victoriaseras5157
@victoriaseras5157 7 лет назад
Thank you very much Mr. Biezen. Now I know that I solved the problem correctly because I got a very approximate answer to yours. I am much more confident to get a good grade on my exam next week . Really can't thank you enough, you are the best :)
@sniderlw7613
@sniderlw7613 6 лет назад
If the steam was at 120 dgrees will we have athird term on the right side?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
That is correct.
@derejeabebe2828
@derejeabebe2828 5 месяцев назад
Excellent teacher
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 месяцев назад
Thank you! 😃
@ABHISHEKKUMAR-uu7qv
@ABHISHEKKUMAR-uu7qv 5 лет назад
Excellent sir ji
@dongiovannidemontecristo1835
@dongiovannidemontecristo1835 5 лет назад
Excellent video
@zh-vu7zc
@zh-vu7zc 2 года назад
Thank you! Can we do that in SI Unit?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
Certainly. Just use different coefficients. c (water) = 1 cal/g K = 4.186 J/g K = 4186 J /kg K etc.
@j0mezzy
@j0mezzy 8 лет назад
I'm a bit confused with the "+mL_v " ? I thought it would be - mL_v because I thought steam is losing thermal energy through condensation. It's going from a gas to a liquid so It should be -mL_v , its losing heat during the phase change??? Am I wrong? Although I do understand that there would be 2 terms because steam starts at 100C
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 лет назад
It all depends on which equation you use to solve the problem. In this example we start with the equation heat gained = heat lost. Therefore all the terms on both sides of the equal sign must have a positive value.
@diyaael-shorbagy7056
@diyaael-shorbagy7056 5 лет назад
sir , in the prob we assume that the final state is liquid water but what if we assume that may be it will be ice or even vapor ?!
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
Then you move some of the terms to the other side of the equation, as needed.
@aadityasingh9137
@aadityasingh9137 4 года назад
Brilliant!
@xvgx
@xvgx 7 лет назад
How do I know when to use specific heat at kcal/ kg C with the L_f at kcal/ kg.... and when to use specific heat in J/kg with L_f's KJ/ kg? Does it matter as long as C's and L_f's units match?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
It doesn't matter. Use whatever units you prefer (and as you indicated, as long as the units are consistent).
@lollabytaskmaster4586
@lollabytaskmaster4586 6 лет назад
Thank you for your time. If this isn't too much; would it be wrong to make the terms on the left side of the equation negative? I understand from your comments that it depends on the equation you use but can you clarify for this problem. For some questions using Qgained=Qlost becomes confusing when you have to factor out the Tf. Some terms are postive while others negative and it ends up giving a temperature far less than the predicted one.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
There are indeed several ways in which you can approach this problem. The method shown here requires every term on both sides to be positive. From my experience, if students in my classes use the methods shown here, they often get the problem correct on the test. The students using the method shown in the book more often get the problem wrong on the test, thus I keep teaching this method. Although both methods are perfectly valid.
@lollabytaskmaster4586
@lollabytaskmaster4586 6 лет назад
okay, I think I'll use your way as you're the only reason I haven't utterly failed mechanics. If you say that way is better then it must be. Thank you for the fast reply
@chiranjibimahapatra708
@chiranjibimahapatra708 Год назад
How to know where to stop !!! I mean what percentage of substance remain ?!?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen Год назад
That is a good question. I developed a new method to do that in the classroom, but haven't made any videos on that yet. (Maybe we can make them this weekend). Calculate each change separately on two sides: 1) How much energy it takes to heat the ice to 0 degrees. 2) how much energy it takes to melt the ice 3) how much heat it takes to heat that cold water to boiling on the other side 1) how much energy to remove to bring the temperature of the steam to 100 degrees 2) How much energy to remove to condense the steam. 3) How much energy to remove to drop the temperature of the boiling water to 0 degrees. When you look at those results side by side you can usually determine what the end state will be.
@mathlover2299
@mathlover2299 6 лет назад
At 5:27 3rd line down last term on RHS isn't MCdelT_hot H20 supposed to be MC(T_f - 100) ?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
No, if you use this technique to solve calorimeter problems, every term on both sides of the equation must be positive. Thus you must subtract the lower temperature from the higher temperature. (Q gained = Q lost)
@anuraggangwar6644
@anuraggangwar6644 5 лет назад
Sir please help me for ice at 0 deg celcius and steam at 100 deg celcius. Rest problem is same as explained by you. I am getting wrong answer.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
How much ice do you have and how much steam do you have?
@anuraggangwar6644
@anuraggangwar6644 5 лет назад
Sir my problem is solved now. I have watched your video three times and get my concept clear now.
@zh-vu7zc
@zh-vu7zc 2 года назад
Please help, How can we find out the total change in entropy?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
We have a playlist on that: PHYSICS 30 ENTROPY Physics - Thermodynamics: (1 of 5) Entropy - Basic Definition ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MGA2uGck3iQ.html
@zh-vu7zc
@zh-vu7zc 2 года назад
Thank you very much!
@ayshahamad3126
@ayshahamad3126 6 лет назад
How do I know if it’s gained or lost? Is there a video?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
When a hot video is placed in a cold liquid, the hot object loses heat and the cold liquid gains heat.
@mandisaankosi8204
@mandisaankosi8204 7 лет назад
Would i be wrong if if i use Q cold=-Qhot? equation i.e. Qold +Qhot=0 the other Q is negative when i take it to the other side?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
Note that equation very specifically equates the heat gained by the cold objects to the heat lost by the hot objects. In this case all terms must be positive. Text books typically use a different method and do use positive and negative terms. You must use either the one or the other method, but you cannot mix them.
@maheshpeerla5477
@maheshpeerla5477 6 лет назад
Mandisa Ashley both eq. same
@Malarity1
@Malarity1 8 лет назад
great video. but im wondering why you always put Tfinal to the Tinitial
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 лет назад
Hi Loona. Not sure what you were asking. If you could rephrase the question I may be able to answer.
@Malarity1
@Malarity1 8 лет назад
sorry bad English. I just want to know why did you subtract T initial to T final instead T final minus T initial around 3:00
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 8 лет назад
That is a good question. There are different methods to solve these types of problems. The method I use and show here in the video sets the heat (Q) gained by the cold objects equal to the heat (Q) lost by the hot objects. For the answer to be correct with this method all of the terms MUST be POSITIVE. In order to accomplish that you have to write T initial - T final if the T initial is greater than the T final.
@Malarity1
@Malarity1 8 лет назад
Ohh! now i get it. Thank you so much!!
@matthewmccue2660
@matthewmccue2660 7 лет назад
Why is the specific heat of hot water of course 1?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
The specific heat of water varies a little with temperature, but we can assume it to be 1.
@matthewmccue2660
@matthewmccue2660 7 лет назад
ah yes, I see, were talking calories. very good. Thank you. I'm slightly lost in using Boltzman constant in thermodynamics, can you point me in the right direction? I understand it in entropy but it's relationship to R and in the idea gas law eludes me. Thank you for your time.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 7 лет назад
Just like any other equation in physics and nature, you need a constant to turn a relationship into an equation. In order to formulate the ideal gas equation you need a constant of proportionality. In that case it the the gas constant. See playlist: PHYSICS 26 THE IDEAL GAS EQUATION
@yonimargolin1658
@yonimargolin1658 8 лет назад
steam didnt have three terms dince it fidnt need to reach the temperature in which it can change phases of matter
@bskedar228
@bskedar228 6 лет назад
very helpful
@pain123444
@pain123444 5 лет назад
2:40 Why is it T_final - 0 ??
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 5 лет назад
If you follow this method of solving calorimeter problems, you must make sure that the delta-T calculations are always positive.
@pain123444
@pain123444 5 лет назад
@@MichelvanBiezen OK, thanks got it now
@tsoojbaterdene7793
@tsoojbaterdene7793 4 года назад
Thank you so much.It helps me a lot.👍😘😍🤗😄😀😁😊
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
You're welcome 😊
@tsoojbaterdene7793
@tsoojbaterdene7793 4 года назад
boiling water is steam,Sir?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
Yes. Steam doesn't become (like and ideal) gas until the temperature is much higher than 100 C and the temperature depends on the pressure
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 4 года назад
At very low pressure, steam acts like a gas, but not at atmospheric and higher pressure.
@abhishekpatil666
@abhishekpatil666 6 лет назад
How to solve if steam is at 120 degree Celsius of 10 g and ice at -20 degree celcius of 70 g.
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 6 лет назад
You have to make an assumption of the final state. Let's assume that it will be water at a temperature between 0 and 100 C. Then you get the equation mc x delta(T) (steam) + mLv (steam) + mc x delta (T) warm water = mc x delta (T) ice + mLf (ice) + mc x delta (T) cold water
@abhishekpatil666
@abhishekpatil666 6 лет назад
@@MichelvanBiezen thanks...it helped a lot
@anuraggangwar6644
@anuraggangwar6644 5 лет назад
Abhishek patil r u studying in Pune India??
@Torch-ph9jk
@Torch-ph9jk 2 года назад
why is it not q gain= negative q lost?,
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 2 года назад
It depends on how you want to define it. But if you make one side positive and the other side negative, the two sides will not equal one another.
@ch0vits
@ch0vits 10 лет назад
I get it now yaay:)
@sophiacarryl
@sophiacarryl 9 лет назад
Why didn't steam get three terms as well?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 лет назад
Sophia, When steam converts to water (condenses) there is no change in temperature. Therefore you only need the mass and the latent heat of vaporization
@sophiacarryl
@sophiacarryl 9 лет назад
Thank you! a similar question was on my exam and I couldn't believe it! Thanks again!
@tsoojbaterdene7793
@tsoojbaterdene7793 4 года назад
How to find M,Sir? prnt.sc/ujgmpn
@yoongyeehow7614
@yoongyeehow7614 9 лет назад
how about if the steam is above 100 degree? Then will it be three terms also?
@MichelvanBiezen
@MichelvanBiezen 9 лет назад
Yoong, Yes, you would need to account for the heat lost by the steam while cooling down.
@yoongyeehow7614
@yoongyeehow7614 9 лет назад
thank you
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