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@numberphile
@numberphile 3 месяца назад
The main video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nXexsSWrc1Q.html Extra physics bit: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-AZxoENTRKxg.html Numberphile's Pi Playlist: ru-vid.com/group/PL4870492ACBDC2E7C
@gauravgummaraju
@gauravgummaraju 3 месяца назад
No way you uploaded this on 22/7 🤯
@DheerajKattula
@DheerajKattula 3 месяца назад
What a lovely observation ❤
@JasonSmith0
@JasonSmith0 3 месяца назад
In the US, he released on 7/22, a well-known approximation for 1 / π
@DheerajKattula
@DheerajKattula 3 месяца назад
@@JasonSmith0 🤣
@the_0_man
@the_0_man 2 месяца назад
now that you say!
@syoudipta
@syoudipta 2 месяца назад
That's blasphemous. We shouldn't be talking about the rational approximation.
@jwolfe01234
@jwolfe01234 3 месяца назад
I'm glad Brady was able to give them an opportunity to set the record straight to a mainstream audience. I'm sure it must be frustrating to have your work widely misrepresented.
@vatsalsharma4879
@vatsalsharma4879 2 месяца назад
I am unaware of any controversy, could you elaborate on this 'misrepresentation'?
@vatsalsharma4879
@vatsalsharma4879 2 месяца назад
@@everlearner8974 no, that is precisely why i asked @jwolfe01234 to share what he knows
@sandipanroy3106
@sandipanroy3106 2 месяца назад
​@@vatsalsharma4879 they gave a short explanation in the video itself.
@janeydoe7417
@janeydoe7417 Месяц назад
​@@everlearner8974what?
@everlearner8974
@everlearner8974 Месяц назад
@@janeydoe7417 don't remember why I made that comment. Deleted it.
@DataTranslator
@DataTranslator 3 месяца назад
They speak like true scientists. Without claims beyond the results of their work . Good for them
@anindyaguria6615
@anindyaguria6615 3 месяца назад
He is my professor at University. He taught me math method of physics last year!
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998 3 месяца назад
Hi 👽
@optimisticexquisite6534
@optimisticexquisite6534 3 месяца назад
Lol we're all here at the same place
@satoru.nakata
@satoru.nakata 3 месяца назад
which university does he teach?
@LegendaryBea
@LegendaryBea 3 месяца назад
​@@satoru.nakata indian institute of science i think
@gauravrachh3222
@gauravrachh3222 3 месяца назад
Yessir​@@optimisticexquisite6534
@Kushb4an
@Kushb4an 3 месяца назад
That's how researchers should be;humble.
@Giantcrabz
@Giantcrabz 3 месяца назад
it occurs naturally when you care about your topic more than money
@Ak-ly5qn
@Ak-ly5qn 3 месяца назад
He is inspirational. I never liked the idea of classroom teaching in my life but his lectures changed me. He starts from the very basics and takes you to a research level.
@mightytitan1719
@mightytitan1719 2 месяца назад
​@@PrakharrChaubeyyes they are , many fake observations now to get fame
@ShivanshSharma-yz9bk
@ShivanshSharma-yz9bk 2 месяца назад
thats how everyone should be...
@orang1921
@orang1921 2 месяца назад
@@Giantcrabz thankfully, the majority of researchers *are* like that
@omartechnologies
@omartechnologies 3 месяца назад
Good job getting them into an interview. Pretty awesome dude.
@GaneshNayak
@GaneshNayak 3 месяца назад
Sinha and Saha , both are so humble and so dedicated to science. Great interview
@shashishekhar----
@shashishekhar---- Месяц назад
They are doing great work 👍🏽
@Ishanaroya
@Ishanaroya 3 месяца назад
I like the deep dive into this. Fascinating subject and great interview!
@Cashman9111
@Cashman9111 3 месяца назад
his name is Sinh(a) ? Best name ever for PI-oneer, huh ? :D
@senorperez
@senorperez 2 месяца назад
too much to process 😂
@tiktik9413
@tiktik9413 2 месяца назад
😂😂😂😂
@Top10PrimeTV
@Top10PrimeTV 2 месяца назад
That's his surname. Sinha and Saha are Bengali surnames.
@RigelVision
@RigelVision 2 месяца назад
​@@Top10PrimeTV you clearly did not understand what he's trying to say.
@Top10PrimeTV
@Top10PrimeTV 2 месяца назад
@@RigelVision I did, buddy, but I also had a social responsibility.
@briandeschene8424
@briandeschene8424 3 месяца назад
What a pleasure to see this interview of two outstanding examples of scientists who are obviously very learned in their field who remain personable and honest to the ideals of the scientific method. In business, it is often stated that all publicity - intentional or unintentional - is still publicity. Perhaps Science needs to give in that philosophy in these times of click-bait, popularity, and social “media” we now all unfortunately find ourselves in.
@scriptorpaulina
@scriptorpaulina 3 месяца назад
I have to admire these guys for their dedication and their admission that string theory isn’t a testable hypothesis yet. I love meeting other high-energy physicists, and I dearly wish I could write to them
@slobodanblazeski0
@slobodanblazeski0 3 месяца назад
It's great that actual authors got a spotlight to explain their work.🎉
@Sandeepan
@Sandeepan 3 месяца назад
অর্ণব প্রিয় দা, জানিনা এই কমেন্ট তোমার চোখে পড়বে কি না, আমি তোমার স্কুলে পড়তাম, তোমার থেকে দুই বছরের ছোট, তুমি বাংলা মাধ্যম স্কুল কে বিশ্বের মানচিত্র জায়গা করে দিলে। তোমাকে অশেষ ধন্যবাদ
@alien9209
@alien9209 3 месяца назад
Medium doesn't matter , We learn nothing in school, I was from Bengali medium too
@Sandeepan
@Sandeepan 3 месяца назад
@@alien9209 We do learn a lot in school, depending on what you consider as 'learning' And 'medium do not matter' is a realisation that you reach at a later stage in life. A lot of us get bullied for not being able to speak proper/fluent English while growing up and it leads up to a lot of insecurities. And those doesn't go away easily in absence of external validation. A "Bengali Medium" senior, reaching a position of importance help others with insecurities. Visibility matters
@mindfullness7777
@mindfullness7777 2 месяца назад
@@Sandeepan science e medium noi logic ta besi important
@junk2k06
@junk2k06 2 месяца назад
String theory te medium ta immaterial :).
@Sandeepan
@Sandeepan 2 месяца назад
@@junk2k06 নিঃসন্দেহে, কমেন্ট টা সে প্রসঙ্গে নয়
@robharwood3538
@robharwood3538 3 месяца назад
Glad you made the effort to interview these guys to dig deeper into the string theory part of the story. Not many people have looked into it that deeply, beyond the surface-level story about Pi. Great job, Brady!
@Jiburley
@Jiburley 3 месяца назад
You are doing bleeding edge work. Thank you for your dedication. Media will always over simplify. Please keep up your excellent work!
@Syntax753
@Syntax753 3 месяца назад
Fantastic interview and good that they got given the opportunity to explain the true purpose of the paper :)
@fractile8915
@fractile8915 3 месяца назад
Super important to give context to their work. Very cool video!
@ABCDEFGHIJX
@ABCDEFGHIJX 3 месяца назад
Aninda Sinha is a very good teacher also( he taught us mathematical physics) proud to be his student
@shashishekhar----
@shashishekhar---- Месяц назад
Great man, great researcher.
@Hadar1991
@Hadar1991 3 месяца назад
12:35 So many years of studying mathematics and today I realized that Euler was Swiss not German. xD Maybe because he solved the issue of Seven Bridges of Königsberg I always thought that he is German. :P
@VandalIO
@VandalIO 3 месяца назад
I thought h was French
@prasoonjha6314
@prasoonjha6314 3 месяца назад
Well, he spent a great deal of his career in Prussia.
@stevengiuseppetti6555
@stevengiuseppetti6555 Месяц назад
Thank you for helping them share their story. I have deep respect for these physicists. I think theres a trend of science, math and physics becoming increasingly abstract and esoteric while simultaneously the education standards here in the US continue to decline. The result is a growing mistrust among the average people of science in general, we saw this explode during covid. As this mis-trust continues to grow I think we need a renewed effort to help average people globally connect with our great minds like Saha and Sinha. We need more communicators and networks for communication to connect the most abstract advanced research with the most common denominator in order to spread trust as much as possible to the greatest number of people. Its difficult to simplify things but its also part of the communication process and we need the general population to understand the importance of work like this as this work becomes increasingly impactful on our everyday lives. The more alienated the gen pop is from science and math, the greater the distrust and greater the resistence to advancement.
@PaleBlueDot42
@PaleBlueDot42 3 месяца назад
What a great interview! Please do more like these Brady!
@duggydo
@duggydo 3 месяца назад
They seem like very practical guys who have the right mindset to make real advances in the field.
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998
@yourlordandsaviouryeesusbe2998 3 месяца назад
Aninda Sinha is a prof at my University 😂 Cool guy and obviously very smart
@ankitjoon7320
@ankitjoon7320 Месяц назад
I studied 'Mathematical Methods of Physics' with this professor at IISc. He's amazing!!!
@shashishekhar----
@shashishekhar---- Месяц назад
Very humble people, doing great work in one of India's leading institutes in research, IISC Bangalore.
@Zenitect
@Zenitect 3 месяца назад
So cool! Some of the string theory went over my head, but I’m glad you got to do this interview
@debasishraychawdhuri
@debasishraychawdhuri 2 месяца назад
The only reason it feels like there is some invisible hand that is trying to show you the right way is that these people are so humble that they cannot believe that they figured it out on their own.
@dhiraj066
@dhiraj066 3 месяца назад
Going to visit IISc soon. Can't wait to meet them in person🔥
@libishm4622
@libishm4622 3 месяца назад
Send them regards
@bhatkrishnakishor
@bhatkrishnakishor 3 месяца назад
Great interview, congrats two both of the scientist at the helm of this stir up in the mathematical community. 🙂
@Icenri
@Icenri 3 месяца назад
I think that it's very exciting that we now have a pi formula that has a parameter that can be any number even if it's a side product of String Theory investigation. It could open up new ways to look into pi and understand it better or even calculate it better.
@OnlyFactsAndData4829
@OnlyFactsAndData4829 3 месяца назад
12:00 Even Aryabhatta has found finite difference scheme for expressing sin values. He was 1000 yrs before Madhava. Anyway, I used to think Euler was French until now 😂😂
@stnylan
@stnylan 3 месяца назад
An excellent interview. Nice to hear directly from the researchers. Not surprised by the exaggerations of course, but great both in this video and your earlier video the record was clearly stated. The joy of finding things out, or however exactly it was stated, have to agree that's a pretty darned good reason for researching anything, regardless of one's level.
@RandyKing314
@RandyKing314 3 месяца назад
their work is deep enough that “pi was just a byproduct” … nice!
@Mahendra_Choudhary_M
@Mahendra_Choudhary_M 2 месяца назад
Why did I get notification for this video? I haven't even seen this channel before now, leave alone subscription or the bell I don't even like math...
@________no-u
@________no-u 2 месяца назад
You are the chosen one !!!
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
Once in a while, the Great Math Oracle chooses a lucky muggle
@prathamesh413
@prathamesh413 3 месяца назад
Thank you for interviewing such humble researchers
@yoram_snir
@yoram_snir 3 месяца назад
Wonderful content 💙 what a lovely interview.
@pidigi
@pidigi 3 месяца назад
Great men made great discoveries. And this feels me so optimistic about humankind. We are better than wars, fights and idiocracy
@saipayansanyal8175
@saipayansanyal8175 2 месяца назад
It was indeed a major breakthrough by IISc Researchers . A very glad thing u know.
@yi9621
@yi9621 3 месяца назад
Thanks a lot for this interview, clearing out the misinterpretations!
@dkickelbick
@dkickelbick 3 месяца назад
What great person! Thanks for showing.
@jdl3408
@jdl3408 3 месяца назад
Truly scientific minds. Wonderful to hear from them.
@dgse87
@dgse87 3 месяца назад
Interesting interview and great job from the interviewees :)
@jimiwills
@jimiwills 3 месяца назад
Mind your decisions is a fun channel
@qeithwreid7745
@qeithwreid7745 3 месяца назад
I love it when Arnab’s face lights up
@dhruvg550
@dhruvg550 3 месяца назад
A brilliant interview Brady!
@dhruvg550
@dhruvg550 3 месяца назад
And Sinha and Saha's answers were on point!
@Depressed_Dinosaur
@Depressed_Dinosaur 3 месяца назад
A great crossover interview - math and physics. Brilliant interview Brady! And one of the best string theory presentations ever. Starts at 14:30 ❤
@lynxfl
@lynxfl 3 месяца назад
Great answer about how we never correlate Euler with Switzerland, so why do the same with Ramanujan. It can get too parochial sometimes
@CathalMalone
@CathalMalone 3 месяца назад
"...and he wanted to send it to some of his mathematician friends, and it turned out that one of them was Terence Tao..." Your heart would simply stop.
@filipking
@filipking 29 дней назад
Thanks for making this video, Brady. I really enjoed watching it and I thing it is a stellar piece of Journalism. 👍
@888SpinR
@888SpinR 2 месяца назад
I can't understand much of the maths or physics, but this interview has been a joy to watch
@arnavpiscesxtream
@arnavpiscesxtream 2 месяца назад
what a nice conversation, all intelligent humble personalities
@papadhoria0076
@papadhoria0076 3 месяца назад
Great Interview!
@rolandblok
@rolandblok 3 месяца назад
Humble pi. ❤
@faustobarbuto
@faustobarbuto 3 месяца назад
Maybe in the future their formula for computing π with high accuracy and many digits will be better remembered than their article's overall contribution to the string theory.
@PeterFellin
@PeterFellin 3 месяца назад
Good to be told about this progress toward empirical testability of string/M-theory!👏👍
@ANUJ.7
@ANUJ.7 3 месяца назад
Finally an Indian came in Numberphile
@sandyjr5225
@sandyjr5225 3 месяца назад
There've been few Indians in the past.
@josephmusonda6713
@josephmusonda6713 2 месяца назад
I wish this channel can give me an opportunity to show the world how I have proven the Collatz Conjecture using basic algebra.
@klyanadkmorr
@klyanadkmorr 3 месяца назад
I just took it as another way Pi is like a golden rule number that is represented in the most basic forms of matter energy interaction aspects.
@ShivanshSharma
@ShivanshSharma 3 месяца назад
5:48 Love Brady's gestures
@prasadjayanti
@prasadjayanti Месяц назад
Remarkable people, remarkable work !
@bullymaguire2204
@bullymaguire2204 2 месяца назад
Great job from you guys Glad this will go mainstream
@ZedaZ80
@ZedaZ80 3 месяца назад
I've had luck with using lambda as a function instead of a constant, and I'm excited to see what other people come up with!
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
You mean as a function of n?
@singharkirat
@singharkirat 2 месяца назад
Immortal Quotes : "Global Scientist" "Science comes first" knowledge (pie) humbles humanity
@SattickDas2001
@SattickDas2001 Месяц назад
Fellow Bengali statistics major here. West Bengal, India has probably some of the best people for mathematical research but some of the worst infrastructure.
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
😔
@fiercedietyfan
@fiercedietyfan 3 месяца назад
This is an excellent video, thanks for this
@frankharr9466
@frankharr9466 2 месяца назад
Thank you for following up with them.
@wrekced
@wrekced 3 месяца назад
I just went and read the article Sinha wrote. It has all the details you need to play with these formulas on your computer. I have not read the paper yet though.
@0ArshKhan0
@0ArshKhan0 3 месяца назад
Awesome discussion!
@kh_167
@kh_167 3 месяца назад
I do hope they have well deserved pies after all that hard work
@abu-karz
@abu-karz 2 месяца назад
14:17 Lol. I'm pretty sure Aninda did pretty much of the work. 😂
@richardcapstack
@richardcapstack 2 месяца назад
It’s like they are the Penn and Teller of maths
@pillowvoid3198
@pillowvoid3198 2 месяца назад
Finally, Presh Talwakar getting commended on numberphile!
@jameslima9817
@jameslima9817 3 месяца назад
Really like these guys. Couldn’t be cooler
@olleicua
@olleicua 3 месяца назад
It occurs to me that as a formula might hope to better approximate a transcendental number, as a journalist, Brady might hope to create a story that better approximates the truth of the formula's discovery.
@XoPlanetI
@XoPlanetI 2 месяца назад
Quantum physics will reveal more surprising patterns in number theory
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
Feels like that keeps happening!
@makimomoo
@makimomoo Месяц назад
String theory is an intellectual pursuit to explain nature. It may yield the truth, it may not but at least new mathematical tools are being invented or discovered which can or may be used in other branches of science to reveal more of nature. Best wishes to everyone in the pursuit of the truth and my only wish is that we keep our ego’s in check. 😂
@prasunkarmakar6371
@prasunkarmakar6371 2 месяца назад
As a bengali i feel proud as both of them are bengali
@VC1design
@VC1design 3 месяца назад
Genius title... I see what you did there.
@gregorymurphy6115
@gregorymurphy6115 2 месяца назад
HAHAHHAHAHAHA omg. Amazing. These guys are SO nice. THey think "misreporting" is too strong a word while they had to refute the statement that claimed they were going to "revolutionize the whole field of mathematics." If anything, misreporting is a MASSIVE understatement. Holy hell. Im dead hahaha
@mindfullness7777
@mindfullness7777 2 месяца назад
you meant, it is more than just mere exaggeration?
@gregorymurphy6115
@gregorymurphy6115 2 месяца назад
@@mindfullness7777 exaggeration would be much less than "revolutionize an academic fields with millions of total man hours of dedication behind it"
@SolinoOruki
@SolinoOruki 3 месяца назад
Great interview
@HarshSharma-uf8jc
@HarshSharma-uf8jc Месяц назад
14:15 , correction it is the ratio of circumference to the diameter.
@MrAlRats
@MrAlRats 3 месяца назад
I got a bit emotional when I heard that lambda can be a complex number! How?! I want to see how the size of the error varies for different values across the complex plane when an increasing number of terms are included in the series expansion for pi.
@temporary9508
@temporary9508 2 месяца назад
Physicists just being physicists
@balaam_7087
@balaam_7087 3 месяца назад
Ha, great title. Can’t believe I never saw it before. Clever
@oraz.
@oraz. 3 месяца назад
Presh Talwaker is the one I saw
@Giantcrabz
@Giantcrabz 3 месяца назад
this anarchist stands with y'all against the media blitz. Math and Pi and peace are the birthright of all
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
For anyone who gets the "free parameter" notion: does that hint at a higher order of mathematics in which lambda cancels out? Maybe what I'm getting at is already obvious, but I'll try to be more specific. I have the intuition that if the series works for _any λ,_ then it seems there's something one could theoretically do to the series to remove the need for λ. Similar to approximating a limit, or how an expression whose both sides are divided by two can just be multiplied by two, to get a simpler expression. Except in this case we don't really know how to get rid of λ. I'm happy to be told I'm wrong, just curious and I didn't know where else to ask.
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
My own response to my question is what he says at 15:40 about the "infinite tower". I get the sense that the notion of an infinite series used to calculate π - reduced in practice to a finite series by deciding when to stop - can be transformed into this lambda function, where the size of λ represents the same thing as the size of the series: i.e. increasing calculation complexity, to get more digits of π. So in essence that's saying infinite λ ≈ infinite series. Except I don't think that's actually correct if one looks at the lambda formula.
@PASHKULI
@PASHKULI 2 месяца назад
No. Because π = 4 / √φ What is shown in the video and ever since Archimedes is an APPROXIMATION of π. Even 22/7 is much closer to the real value of π.
@dmg4415
@dmg4415 3 месяца назад
I was happy when I found that 3020^(1/7) is only -4.3/100000 from the excel 15 position PI.
@mastershooter64
@mastershooter64 3 месяца назад
Very cool!
@raajdatta2014
@raajdatta2014 Месяц назад
Appreciated ❤️🙏🇮🇳
@SciPolymath
@SciPolymath 3 месяца назад
Pi-ownwers Uploded on pie-2024
@EugeneNadesan
@EugeneNadesan 2 месяца назад
Brilliant guys👍👍
@rakeshrakshit6355
@rakeshrakshit6355 2 месяца назад
proud of them!
@tw5718
@tw5718 3 месяца назад
A 25 minute video and we're not even gonna talk about whats on the board...
@ankitthakurankit4764
@ankitthakurankit4764 3 месяца назад
when ananda said one of his friends were terence tao i was like 😳😳
@copperfield42
@copperfield42 3 месяца назад
what is the math stackexchange post? I would like to take a look
@curious_banda
@curious_banda 2 месяца назад
a/474323
@RaphaelOkai
@RaphaelOkai 2 месяца назад
This is Big. They've made history.
@subhrashisdas
@subhrashisdas 3 месяца назад
Interesting coincidence: This blog is posted on 22/7, which is the value of Pi.
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo Месяц назад
Someone should consider the time of day as a decimal, and determine if the time of posting approximates pi even better than 22/7
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