I agree. As an example....when you've mastered piano chords, you can translate the underlying triads into your thinking while playing guitar. You're not really thinking notes when forming open chords or barre chords on the guitar having not studied piano. Upon learning fret board notes, one is now equipped to solo more easily.
Been playing guitar for like two years now, would it still be worth it to learn the piano? Still don’t really understand much about music theory and soloing i haven’t succeeded at yet. How long would it take to learn piano and use that knowledge on guitar?
@@shillian4770 It depends on what you want Colton. If you're limited by time, I would not recommend playing piano. You want to focus on your guitar while supplementing your guitar practice with learning music theory. The ads you see on youtube claiming that you can't learn guitar via youtube videos are nonsense. There are quality channels on youtube. (examples: Stichmethod Guitar / Brian Kelly). Naturally, you'll get premium content if you pay for it. Aspiring players quit because they think they'll be able to "play be ear" thinking they can short cut knowledge. You want to learn something new often and regularly to avoid "the rut".
Appreciate video content! Excuse me for the intrusion, I would appreciate your initial thoughts. Have you tried - Rozardner Possess Violin Reality (probably on Google)? It is a good one off guide for understanding how to master the piano without the headache. Ive heard some interesting things about it and my BF got excellent results with it.
I started piano lesson when I was about 8 years old. For 4 years I took lessons and played classical music only. Then I discovered The Beatles. All of a sudden guitar was lot cooler. Still I'm glad I learned about music thru piano.
I'm a guitar player, and have played it exclusively for decades now. I started on piano though, and in my opinion that is the best for learning music theory. When playing guitar and thinking through music I generally think in terms of patterns on the fretboard, but often fall back to thinking about it on a keyboard. It has been a huge help to me to have that early piano training, and vocal (both church choir and what used to be taught in our public schools) as well.
My first exposure to playing a musical instrument was the recorder. It was part of music class on elementary school. I thought that was a very beginner friendly way to learn music theory
I'm thirteen and have been playing piano since the first grade, but started playing guitar a month ago, and really believe that the music theory and any musical talent from piano can really help with learning guitar. I'm gonna say piano first if you can afford it. Chris needs a new hat. 😂😂😂
affordability is about the same though. A 61 key midi keyboard with full size velocity sensitive keys can be had for about the same price as a budget beginner guitar.
@@ulfrinn8783 dont really reccomend 61 keys anymore there are tons of great 88 keys that are just as cheap as 61 ur lucky if u find a good weighted 88 key
Watching the video and reading these comments made me choose to start the piano first. I think both instruments sound great in their own way. Since I wanted to learn both, to begin with, I just wanted to know what to start with and I guess hearing that every great guitarist knows the piano, I guess that's where I'll start. Thank you for the video and thank these actually constructive comments in the community thumbs up from me!
Learned a bit of piano as a child and it still influences how I think about music and how I visualize it. I've been taking guitar lessons for a little over a year now and have made super fast progress because of the knowledge I have from piano. Also bought a keyboard because I still felt the urge to hit the keys every now and again. And now I practice both. Usually start with the guitar and then sit at my keyboard and often play the same songs on it. That is actually when I feel like I'm learning the most, when I can really feel my understanding of music expanding. Both skills sort of feed each other and it's amazing.
I play piano, drums, and guitar (and when I say play I mean I have been learning them) and they are all fun. Drums make you feel cool, piano makes you feel classy, and guitar makes your fingers hurt while also feeling cool. My favorite is most likely piano but I but I enjoy them all, at some point in time I'd like to write my own song (I can also sing) including the instrument pieces but I digress. Both piano and guitar are cool and it's up to the person which they want to play.
I'm a guitar player mostly, but I found it easy to learn music theory in piano. You can see every unique notes from top to bottom in a linear fashion and how it relates to one another. It's just easy. In Guitar there are redundant notes and weird arrangement that only make sense so that your finger can fit and be able to play chords.. That's why there are many guitar players that only know chords and play by ear and still be successful and not knowing much music theory.
Honestly, I think piano is more applicable to other instruments but it's WAY easier to be proficient/presentable to others on guitar. I tried learning piano for years and didn't click. I picked up guitar and was presentable within a couple months. I think guitar is more rewarding because of how fast you see results. In my opinion it's easier to be "decent" on guitar than piano. But either way both seem like good instruments to learn.
I feel like there are many general concepts that piano really helped me to train and understand. For example, being able to play different parts with both hands at the same time while controlling pedals with my feet, controlling dynamics individually per hand (so you can make the melody louder), understanding and reading music and how chords work, being able to read in different keys. It's just a general sense of flexibility and independence that is really good to get used to without having to think about actually getting a clean sound out of your instrument. With that said though, passion absolutely goes first. If you are in love with the sound of a certain instrument, then stop wasting your time looking at piano and learn that instrument (unless it's piano). On the other hand, if you're not completely sure what instrument to pick, but you do want to get into music, learn the piano. You won't regret it, because you'll be building general musicianship alongside your skills as a pianist.
I started playing guitar when I was 5. I’m pretty good at playing ‘songs’ but I never learnt scales and now I’ve started learning piano and the theory behind why notes work together since then my guitar playing has 📈 when it comes to writing music and even learning songs by ear.
Having a decent understanding of music theory, I believe, is the foundation to successfully learning an instrument which is why I think piano is a better choice if you are trying to learn both. Otherwise, just choose which instrument you think is cooler and fits your music pallet.
I am easy with learning piano as a beginner, but I like Guitar. I have got some piano learnings on a mobile piano app but physically not touched any instrument. I was confused about buying my first instrument, but this video and the comments made me closer to the piano. Thanks all.
he is really right about piano being a great place to start. You could learn music theory way easier and it’s just a stepping stone. In my opinion, it is easier to start than guitar as anyone could press a key on the piano. Personally, I’ve played piano since I was 4 and only started guitar when I was 12. I could understand more of the chords and things on guitar due to what I’ve learned from playing piano.
I 'failed' accordion cause I needed the music closer. I learned trombone when I wanted to learn fiddle. Picked up guitar in college, fiddle at 45 and continued with guitar as it's hard to lead singing while playing fiddle. Thanks guys Stay healthy.
I've always believed that the Outer Mongolian nose flute was a good starter instrument. All the music is in 27/16 and uses the Moxymandolodian mode. You see...easy!!
If you think piano vs guitar then pick piano. It’s a much better instrument. It’s got great potential if you are serious about music. You will learn music theory much easier . You can play anime openings , music form your favorite movies , classics , pop songs etc. if you want to sing you can play piano and sing. You can play scales for yourself to learn to sing. It’s a much better overall instrument . Then you can get a guitar and I promise you : anyone can learn to play basic guitar in 3 months. You basically just play six chords and sing. However, if you’re interested in metal and rock then just get yourself a guitar. But even then you will need lots of music theory if you want to play with someone else , then you will do some research on music theory and it will eventually bring you back to piano lol. I’m not a good guitar player, but Ive been playing guitar for 12 years , two years in a band as a teen. Now I’m learning piano and I wish I started with piano. Good luck.
Oooooof. Lol. I have to admit that I'm biased in favor of guitar. And even though I definitely give piano the utmost respect as a boss ass instrument and a very good tool to learn music theory on (it literally lays music out in front of you)......... it's hard for me to cosign that it's a *much* better instrument than the guitar. Personally, I think that the guitar and the piano are neck and neck with regards to which is better; each has "powers" and advantages the other doesn't have. Even if you could make the argument that the piano is better (which I'm not quite sold on....yet), the race between the two would at least be a *close* one. 😂 I do respect your view, and I know there's a lot backing it. It's just hard for me to cosign that the piano is better hands down. The guitar is packing heat in its own right (muted or percussive strumming, soloing, the ability to go acoustic or electric, arguably a better "cool factor," etc.). And it's not impossible to learn theory on guitar, even with its obstacles. Plus the "simplicity" of guitar gives it some advantages also. If piano wins the race, the race is at least gonna be close between em imo.
I like guitar u know why because i like metal sound now i have my dream guitar Jackson i play loud death metal xD its rly loud to play my neighbour was mad that i play metal they play piano and i didnt care when i play they are angry
I play multiple instruments. Guitar was my first polyphonic one. I just clicked with it instantly ... maybe because I'm inclined to think sideways? There's a lot to be said for piano, though, and it's the way I'd lean for a beginner who wants to learn an instrument but doesn't already have a strong preference as to which one. Guitar and piano are both crazy versatile and have manageable learning curves; guitar has the edge in portability, although electronic keyboards may have made that a moot point. Hell, it's a wash. Either one of them can play basically any genre of music you want.
Another argument in favor of piano occurs to me: there's a thunderin' herd of guitar players. Want to stand out? Pick an instrument that everybody and his dog don't already play. Supporting remark: although I'm a multi-instrumentalist, my primary is violin, and if I were putting together a band I'd look for a drummer/percussionist, a piano/keyboard player, and a bassist, in that order. Then I could worry about sorting out the three or four dozen guitar players who'd wandered up in the meantime. FWIW, IMHO, YMMV, etc.
Guitars are cheaper and smaller, and pianos are expensive and big. Of course there are electric keyboards that are nice and small and cheaper as well. I personally think the guitar sounds better than the piano, its a more rustic, full tone. That being said the piano does sound amazing, and they sound amazing together. Piano is easier to get into and its not as painful as guitar. It really comes down to personal preference over anything. I prefer guitar but I am glad I learned piano as well. But definitely just learn what you wanna learn.
Before this video started I thought piano. I don't play it BUT I believe that the piano teaches you more with a piano. Chords, relationships with chords and keys , modes, bass and treble clefs,so much more. I learnt theory for two years before playing trombone, one note a a time- too little. Then took up guitar and things began to meld together. Six string chords, notes such as 6ths. etc. No- playing the piano leads to so much more.
I learned Piano (or should I say the basics of Piano) because I wanted to compose orchestral scores. Spent about 3 months self-learning some basic piano skills - notes, chords, progressions, inversions, etc - then jumped right into using VST software like Orchestral Tools to play in instruments.
I’m 59years old I’m teaching my self how to play guitar and thinking about piano after watching this video I said to myself what the heck I have nothing else to do so I’m going to learn both instrument at the same time
I'm late to the comments, I practiced guitar for about 4 years when I was younger, and I'm about to begin piano lessons, just because at my age (I'm 37) I just want to learn music as a whole and not really focus on the instrument as I did when I was younger, back then I wanted to be a guitarist, not a musician, and that has changed as I've aged, right now I just want to become a musician
well it all depends as a child at school piano was just no an option so decided to pay guitar back then i was only 8 year and now nearly 50 years later im still playing guitar but also started to learn the piano about 4 years ago .OMG i never thought it would be so hard a lot more going on and more to learn .Playing the guitar you really dont have to read music i was lucky i did but i not think back then TAB was even was around .The biggest problem i have is controlling my left had while my right had is playing .also failing eyesight at my age the sheet music is a little small to read at times . The piano is a great instrument to play and unlike a guitar every key you press down is in tune not like a guitar were if you dont fret it right you have duff note . Just on lock down here in the uk so music is the only thing thats keeping me sane and out of my wifes way .The piano shes fine with ,guitar just about but what drives here mad is when i start playing the ukulele .Think everybody should own and play one .
I agree with play where the passion is especially if you’re coaching a child. If it takes guitar, piano, sledge hammers and trash can lids, have at it. Having said that, with piano, you can make a proper sound come out of it lesson one minute one. In these days of instant gratification and no attention span, that might be a plus.
I can’t play anything. The piano seems more linear. Out front. Visible. Like… get the gist of notes and chords in the most naked, transparent way… and then learning mechanics are what’s left on guitar (or any other instrument). But, again, I’m a listener not a player.
I think most people unless they can afford it, will end up playing a keyboard with piano like quality, instead of a real piano. Is the complexity the same? Keyboard has so much range I think. Pianos are sophisticated AF while guitars look cool and hip.
I have an electric guitar. I wanted to buy an acoustic. But now I am considering buying a keyboard so that I can play rhythms and record stuff. But just like my electric guitar, it is not something you can just pull out and play. It's a hassle to find a port and plug. I know from my electric guitar experience. I want to be able to play anytime anywhere. But now I am confused. Cause I only have a budget to buy one of those instruments at a decent price. I can buy both for cheap. But they would be quite limiting and unplayable. What do you guys suggest.
I hope I ain't too late. Lol. It depends on what you want. Do you want to play anywhere more than you want to explore uncharted territory (that being the keyboard), or vice versa? If you want to play anywhere and that's your key priority, I'd go acoustic guitar. If you don't mind exploring new instruments, and are fine with the electricity limitations, I'd do keyboard. But that was 8 months ago. Lol. Let me know if anything changed. 🤣🤣🤣
I’ve learnt guitar for almost a decade. Recently i tried to compose or arrange my music, and i found it so difficult to do it on guitar. I think guitar limits your music ideally and technically. And now i am saving money for a piano. Does anyone support my decision? 😢 since i am not young anymore, i am feeling sad for starting a whole new instrument.
I have an acoustic guitar for which I would say I am an almost intermediate player. My question is: should I get an electric to learn different styles of guitar, or a keyboard piano to learn from scratch?
Both are good ideas! If you are really interested in learning more music theory type stuff I would recommend piano. If you are really interested in guitar then it won't hurt to learn electric!
@@AlamoMusic Thank you so much for the response. I really appreciate it. I think I would like to gain a solid understanding of music theory that I could then translate from piano to guitar. My friend has just lent me their old keyboard for me to try out for the next month. This way I can get a better understanding of whether the piano is something that's worth learning for me, before making the big investment of buying a new one.
I played acoustic for years before ever touching an electric. It will take you a few weeks max to "learn" the electric. It's not a big deal and in fact you'll probably find it easier. The major stuff to learn on an electric is more all the stuff surrounding it that don't really have much to do w/ playing it like amps, pickups, tone controls etc. but that is more of a personal thing than something you should feel you have to learn.
To be a good musician start with piano and start young. To have fun play guitar. To start playing guitar start with a baritone ukulele or a loog’ even if you’re an adult, piano is just hard for me and not a ton of fun.
Started with guitar. You learn to improvise better, and play music well with the guitar. Piano then is useful for a deeper understanding of theory and a different perspective. Easier to lug a guitar everywhere you go than a piano. Guitar first, then piano.
I've got a question for the community. How old were you when you started to play the guitar? I started learning piano at age 16 but, stupidly, I didn't practice enough and I started again at age 18 but I practiced by ear and by following RU-vid videos. I've always prefer guitar though, however I never decided to practice it because I think it's way too difficult compared to piano and now, being 23 years old, I don't know if I can learn it.
Simply because the piano is linear it makes understanding scales easier than the guitar..you don’t actually need to know anything more than this.. but of course everything helps..
This video was funny but true. So as a working pianist and have grown up in a musician’s household and having hung around just musicians having experience with all instruments this is the case. I loved what one person said on youtube. Guitar players and drummers attract the chicks but the pianists well,,,,, we get more the work. I love how you stated that the guitar is an intimate instrument because it is. Not only does a jazz or classical guitar sound sexy but you can hold it close to you. With a piano, it is not really a romantic and sexy instrument. Now the sounds you get out of it can bee romantic but the instrument is like for example cat’s and dogs. The dog wants to bee close to you every second and will nuzzle you. Man’s best friend so as they say right??? Well, the piano is like a cat. You can’t bee to close to it but then if you are to far then it is not comfortable and you can’t reach the pedals. It is very demanding and it takes up your day. We pianists are set to a high standard and our requirements are much much higher. Our instrument is very very demanding compared to a guitar. You can hold a guitar in your arms all night long but a piano you can’t hold it. You can approach it but then if you are to close it doesn’t feel right. So with a piano it basically wants you but then it doesn’t. It is like Ithe piano is saying this. “I love you but don’t bee so close to me!!” It is like a cheating girlfriend. Yea. You go out on a date and the girl can say she loves you but then she will go out with someone else. Well, now that is crazy right??? Now the guitar is like the woman that will stay with you no matter what. She is actually strapped to you and doesn’t want to leave you. The piano is more serious as far as work goes. It basically is saying. “Yea. I am here to sever you lets go to work.” “Now, we are done working now get away from me.” Kind of funny examples but this is what the piano is like. Now the guitar is like this. It is saying if it could talk “hold me close and don’t let me go.” This is if a piano and guitar could talk. The way that they are approached. Really the guitar if it could speak and if the piano could speak. Or how about this. The guitar is a dependent instrument. It is strapped on to you. It depends on you to hold it and baby it. The piano is like the independent one. You can bee close to it but then again you can’t bee to close to it. The piano is one of those instruments that says... “I am hear to work!!! Play me!!!” Then after playing it it is like saying “get out of here and leave me alone!!!!!” So the mannerisms of the guitar versus piano is much nicer with the guitar. The other thing with the guitar is that it is more of a loving instrument if you look at it from an emotional point. It wants to bee picked up and held. The piano on the other hand is kind of a jerk!!! It sits their all big and beefy and it has its player approach it but then when you go to sit behind it you can’t bee to close. Then you can’t bee to far. It is like it doesn’t know what it wants. Lol!!!!!!!! But that is why it takes a certain person to play it just like a guitar. Maybe that is why it shows what instrument you play. It reflects on you. Now from the players prospective. Fun examples here. For a guitar player the player is effectionate and loving. Where as the pianists are confident and bossy. Just examples... piano players are authorities as they go about their day today tasks. Where as i think the guitar players are more loving and passion ant.
Yamaha makes some great 88 key fully weighted hammer action velocity sensitive digital grand pianos.. other brands make some solid competing hardware as well. But you can get a 61-key velocity sensitive midi keyboard with full size keys to learn on for around $100.
hey i’m a singer and i bought a 25 keys midi keyboard. Is 25 keys enough to learn piano (rythm , chords) and play along while singing? for acoustic covers?
Keyboard, without a doubt, should be everyone’s introduction to Music Theory. We humans process information mostly on a Visual basis, so keyboard is a strictly linear Left-To-Right (and literally, a Black-And-White) instrument. With Guitar, there are dot vs. block inlays, ups & downs on the neck, equidistant scales that get thrown off by the G to B string interval, hammers & pulls, bends, tap techniques, hybrid picking, vibratos- and don’t even get me started on truss rod & bridge saddle adjustments! If you ask me, Guitar is a beginner Music Theorist’s worst nightmare. Piano/ Keyboard lessons are the only true path toward Music Theoretical Glory! This is Dr. Frazier Crane. Goodnight.
Me who was born to a poor family, guitar is way more accessible than piano. Yamaha guitar isn't as expensive than any piano or keyboard. So I started playing guitar since highschool. I do look cool with the guitar, but when I listen to old school jazz, it makes me wanna learn piano so bad. Like it's so sweet-sounding.
piano is harder for me, cos you need to control all of your 10 finger which i am bad at , while the guitar you can just stram your right hand while left is just playing the chords ,
As a noob, the guy with whom I'll be learning from says that you should go with guitar and keyboard simultaneously. Is it okay or he's just making me fool? (I sound and look stupid so many people think I'm actually stupid)
I think i probably would have stopped taking lessons if i started with piano. I play guitar but now sometimes I play a litte piano... when i was younger it would have bored me
Piano: pro: literally the black and white of Ionia con: hard to transpose the obvious black and white of C to other keys Guitar: pro: portable repertoire con: EVERYTHING ELSE actually. Bends are human? Then why are they so damB hard to do. They are truly equal opposites and I recommend that everyone frequents both for maximum brain-splitting victory.
I forgot one thing. Now a digital piano is even a different beast. It is the I can do everything instrument. It is like a selfish person. A digital piano is like if it had character it would say. “I don’t need you get out of here!!!!!! I can do everything!!!!!!! Forget the musicians!!!!!! Leave it to me!!!!!” This is the attitude if the digital piano had character as a person. It is actually a very helpful piano buy the way but on one hand and yes. I am talking about my instruments as a pianist lol!!!!! But yea. Digital pianos are actually the self centered instrument because they can do it all and they are the I can do it all and I know it all kind of instrument. Digital pianos are egotistic actually. Digital pianos are the instrument that says to all musicians “get out of the way!!!!! I don’t need any of you, because i can do everything!!!!” Lol!!!!!!!!!!
@@NeonGreenSpidey I would look at the Yamah digital pianos or even Rolland. It also depends on your price as well and what you can afford. Also Koaii has good ones for beginners as well but i would go with Yamaha and or Rolland. Yamaha though brings your piano to life with the traditional real sound of the grand piano. The other brands sound more synthesized.
Are we not going to talk about prices? Pianos prices are very expensive for a decent one but guitars you can get a great sounding Taylor or Martin for around $700
Tickled Elmo that’s exactly what I mean, you can get a bad quality keyboard for that price compared to a nicer quality guitar . And I believe the better the instrument you start with, the more it will want to play it
You can get a great sounding digital piano for 700 bucks as well. Kawai ES110, Roland FP30. For 500 bucks you can get Casio Privia 160 or Yamaha P125, which are great keyboards to start on.
I am looking for an instrument to play that is easy to practice with sitting at my desk. My regular electric guitar does not fit in my lap with the arms in this chair in the way, and I have a Yamaha 88 key digital grand piano that's too big to sit on top putting me in a situation where I get to practice neither. I am considering a 61-key velocity sensitive midi controller, and also an Anygig travel guitar. I just cannot decide which. It'll probably be both before long.
Remove the arms! I’ve had many computer chairs and when I get them home I put them together with out the arms. As a guitar player I joke about it with friends. The new trend of “tell me something with out telling me” I’d show my office chair without arms. I’d think a lot of guitar plays would get it.
I have been playing keyboard for about a year now and it’s a great instrument 🎹🎼 I would recommend but you need to spend a lot of time on it because it’s not something you learn overnight! I’ve never had a guitar in my life and I am 10 years old but I kinda want to play it. Anyone recommend guitar?
hey i’m a singer and i bought a 25 keys midi keyboard. Is 25 keys enough to learn piano (rythm , chords) and play along while singing? for acoustic covers?
As a guitarist trying to learn piano at an advanced age, I’d say learn piano first. I’ll never be able to do the left hand/right hand dynamics correctly on the piano. My left hand just wants to pound on the keys as hard as the right hand.
I still need some advice.. I mean I wanna play both for the different reasons you guys mentioned in the video but I fear I will fail whichever i start with. I wanna buy either a keyboard (yamaha a350) or a yamaha c40 and I am really confused. which is easier?? which won't let me give up as soon as I start learning?? oooof
I started with guitar 2/3 years later I'm starting piano, it was really tough at first learning chords and then one day it just clicked and I could do it but it took time practice patience and discipline, you have to want to do it, and playing both there was plenty times where I wanted to throw them out the window
@@epicjameson3129 Ughh thank you for encouraging me.. and the heads up. I currently have not much time thanks to working in the "medical field" you can't imagine what we go through everyday and getting sick ourselves.. I wanted to find a break with playing an instrument but there's simply no time.. I hope things will get better soon and in that case I would go for the guitar and now thanks to ur words I know I will be safe when quitting ideas hit me 🙋🏻♂️ Now don't mind my useless words up there I am just speaking up my mind to help ease the pressure 😂 thank you so much for ur comment!
I sat on the edge of my bed to learn guitar and carried it to the beach,to friends houses and sat watching T.V. still do but thats just my experience really couldn't tell anyone what's rite for them.
R.J Lovely hell no. You can play so many more pieces on piano, you also have alot more potential and can play two melodies at the same. You play guitar in public and no one cares. You play piano in public and everyone stops in awe
@@ewcho8995 Well actualy piano is good but i dont like the sound its sound clean and classical so my dad love dirty sound so he buy me to learn to play guitar because its easier to learn u can play Metal and Hard Rock i start palyng metal now i can do low metal voice In piano u only play Keys so its little bit embrassed
i am lerning guitar then i start looking for piano on youtube and i though piano is much better than guitar its easy and it makes much better music than guitar. and now i am kinda felling bad that i got a guitar and now if i say this to my parents they are gonna kill me