"Legumes are overrated" You take that back I will be for the rest of my life 90% Alfalfa on all of my pastures. East Central Minnesota, it's tough to get grasses to really perform where Alfalfa never quits. My stocking density, tons per acre, performance of the cattle, everything with Alfalfa is much better by a large margin But our pasture is only there for 5 years at the most, and then it rotates with row crops. If we leave a hay field longer than 5 years, it starts going backward on soil health I like the perennial ryegrass, hairy vetch,broam.. with the Alfalfa An older neighbor who did not go broken our area headset more guys went broke trying to avoid taxes then guys went broke paying taxes