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All these effing GoPros should be prohibited from anything from a kite to a fucking Anotov. Or have your flight status revoked permanently. That means forever.
Yes it says something about the reality of so many people doing things that require skill discipline & good judgement it's logical to expect one will not play by the rules, if they could have grounded him after he was first caught doing the 360 degree turns in the pattern maybe this doesn't happen.
I truly can't get my head round this! They were briefed, they were told, no 360 in the traffic pattern. He did a 360 and the results were two dead. Thats manslaughter.
To me this is manslaughter by Eric, he has done this before and knew it was wrong and then did it again anyway and ended up killing someone. Dude should be in prison.
Hey Hoover. From an ex military jet pilot (RAF UK) and airlines A380, and an instructor in both, your work here is just outstanding. Keep it up as it’s very informative for many and high class, in depth analysis that always has a well balanced opinion on the inevitable outcomes. Real class, very well done!
@@foobarmaximus3506 HAHAHA, I note and get your sarcasm. I too am sarcastic by nature, but adminsparkes2450 is spot on. So do you see truth as "ass-kissin", IF that was the suggestion of "slurp"? If I misinterpreted your comment, please expound. Respectfully, TH
@@timothyhardin-vn9ke don't worry, he's just a sorry troll, these people are so miserable and self loathing that the thought of others appreciating someone else's work sounds absurd
People are saying the guy should be banned. No the gyro guy should be in jail. He did something dangerous that he was specifically told not to do and got someone killed. It is not an accident, his reckless behavior killed 2 people.
In the last 8-10 years lying has become accepted as a "go-to" style until and unless there is hard evidence and then a pitiful apology "may possibly" follow. I have started to wear a small personal bodycam myself in day-to-day social interaction as things are so screwy. Sadly, manners, honor, and consequence seem to have left the building.
@@wcate8301 I agree. He willfully and repeatedly broke officially instituted rules, despite being warned not to and explained the risks. He knew the dangers and handwaved them away. That is the literal definition of involuntary manslaughter.
The Gyros were apparently flying like idiots all day and it was brought up in the meeting by Mark and then one of the Gyro pilots causes a fatal crash its not a coincidence. Its simple Eric is a liar and should be permanently banned from Oshkosh.
When bad behavior occurs, there must be immediate consequences. Example: If you do a 360, you are grounded for the rest of the show. You kill someone through negligence, you go to prison. Bad behavior continues to happen when there are no immediate consequences. A hole in the swiss cheese was allowing bad behavior to continue.
I would add grounded and prohibited from taking off to leave until everyone else has left, as they clearly cannot be trusted in the same airspace as others.
There are zero consequences in America for bad behavior. Steal from CVS. Drive without insurance. Illegally enter the country. Drive-by shooting. Poor airmanship. None of those activities gets you more than an adult version of Time Out.
It's not a mistake if the 'illegal' maneuver is done repeatedly; and if there were no recriminations and laughter at a safety briefing...the overseers of the event are culpable and negligent. I get the sense of 'so what'.
I've seen this before but at cross country motorcycle racing. Someone in the back row, beer in hand, snickering & laughing at the idea of safety. After I nailed another racer who had stopped to scratch himself and sent him down a river bank I had had enough. I was never there to win, just for fun & friends. That day was not a fun one.
Eric needs to be charged with 2 counts of negligent homicide. I'm so fed up with self-entitled a--holes (whether on the road or in the air) being allowed to get away with such dangerous behavior!
Also keep in mind that air shows attract exactly the kind of stupid people who want to show off. Safety minded people are more likely to stay far away from a giant mess like that.
The dumbest part is that this gyro pilot makes his turn and doesn’t check to see traffic. So,1. Breaks the rule brought up that very day. 2. Initiates an illegal, stupid, show off turn 3. Does nothing to verify clean airspace- just collides with normal traffic which SHOULD BE WHERE HE IS LOOKING- it’s expected to be there!no mystery to this criminally negligent operation.
@@markrix He was fucking around, and killed 2 people. This is known repeated behavior by him and other gyrocopter pilots at OshKosh. I don't think retesting is going to play a role in any of this..
What did I learn from this video? I learned that I never want to land at OshKosh during EAA. As a pilot, this is something I would love to see, but I'll land somewhere else and drive there.
Years ago , I planned to take my Piper Arrow to Oshkosh.Then my flight instructor told me it was a complete zoo and said he would never into that event.I decided to go to Milwaukee and rent a car. Given that my flight instructor was an RCAF instructor during WW2 , his counseling I never swayed from.
Fly in earlier or don't fly in at all please. If you do not need your plane there, I don't recommend you fly in. Oshkosh is a mess y'all, there are so many accidents happening there.
@@rickhill3071i agree with you. It is always the pilot and NOT the kinda plane you are flying.....i am a gyrocopter pilot by myself.... and i have seen a lot of stupid and dangerous stuff using helicopters or fixed wings .
So…. GyroEric flies his toy gyro less than 30 minutes and causes an accident that kills 2 people? What would be the consequences for a typical auto driver doing the same thing with a car? I find this display of arrogance equivalent to street racer, driving stupid, in LA who killed 2 people, a half hour away from his/her home.
To me, the staff of Oshkosh are partly to blame. IMO if people are told to stop doing a maneuver and then repeat the same, they should be grounded and among the very last out.
@@miskatonic6210Bold talk for a Oned Jack, you doesnt have a clue.. And only appears ,after the fact as a Monday morning quart back. O. Ya I see by your IP address they dont play foot ball in your country. TROLL.
I'm old now and haven't flown in many years but stories like these cause me to recall an incident that happened when I was back in my flying days. Some friends of mine also into aviation decided we should all fly down from Toronto, Ontario, Canada to a huge annual event for aviators called Oshkosh in Wisconsin. This is a huge event with thousands of pilots flying in to attend. One friend was able to get access to a Cessna 310 twin aircraft for this trip. Unknown to me at the time, one of the pilots was twin rated but not IFR rated, the other pilot was IFR rated but NOT twin rated. I was simply a passenger on this trip and did not find out all this until we were well into our flight down to Oshkosh. As it turned out that day the weather was overcast with rain...definitely IFR conditions. As we approached the Oshkosh area things got very hectic with many planes all trying to get into Oshkosh airport in IFR conditions. Listening to the hectic air traffic on the radios it became obvious that our two pilots were struggling with the crazy traffic including holds, pattern changes, vectors, and all while flying in clouds along with many other aircraft in our immediate airspace, To say I was terrified was an understatement. Risk of airborne collision was high for us as our pilots struggled and I so wished I hadn't gotten on this airplane. This went on for an hour and I was praying silently that we would make it in safely, which we finally did. This was my only trip to Oshkosh.
In 2023 I made my last flight into KOSH AirVenture. As on all previous flights into AirVenture I studied the Notice exhaustively. It became apparent to me in 2023 that there were people in the pattern who either didn’t read or didn’t understand the Notice or who just willfully disregarded the ATC instructions and procedures contained in the Notice. I was cutoff in the pattern once by someone who cut into the pattern less than 500 feet in front of me from a southerly direction between Green Lake and Ripon, because of spacing, or lack thereof because of the cowboy who cut in from the south i was directed back to the Endeavour Bridge entry point for re-sequencing. On another attempt to land I was cutoff by another aircraft who appeared 200 feet in front of me between Ripon and Fisk from above as I was using the 1800 foot approach and ATC was asking the aircraft coming in on the 2300 foot approach to sequence in at the 1800 foot approach, after another few orbits around Rush lake I was finally able to land safely. That was when I decided that I would never risk my life like that again. My next trips to AirVenture will be to Green Bay or Milwaukee and I will rent a car to go to and from Whitman Field for the show as there is no way to guarantee all pilots will read and follow the procedures.
The evening arrival window is way too short and everyone is flying like they are in rush hour. Who hasn’t been cut off in the Fisk approach by an errant pilot and sent around? ADSB has helped the controllers call out offenders and send them into a hold. Either way, as a pilot it is maddening and dangerous. Maybe they ned to lengthen the window or close off the evening arrival altogether.
2022, the RV’s were notorious for cutting the line, saw it personally twice in front of me, and there were dozens of radio calls calling out RV line jumpers, but ATC really never did much except break people out, which now can cause fuel problems since you have to go back to Endeavor Bridge. I was broken out twice because RVs jumped in front inside Fisk, had to go and get fuel after the second break out. Then, when finally cleared to land was almost hit by a EZ coming in fast under me to land without approval. People really need to practice their slow flight before going to OSH, and learn to follow the NOTAM.
100% Eric's fault, no questions. He should have *NEVER* done a 360 in the pattern due to the extreme danger it creates. Eric was warned *several* times by other pilots about his reckless behavior. Eric blowed off their warnings, and showed a blatant disregard for safety. In short, Eric was an ignorant self-entitled *brat* who ignored safety rules and procedures. This was not an accident, rather, reckless homicide. Eric should be charged with vehicular manslaughter, tried, found guilty, and sent to prison for his actions. Likewise, the FAA should strip him of his current license, and Eric should be banned from ALL future airshows.
This guy’s comment is spot on. Eric was a reckless selfish cowboy who would not follow rules. This is bad and he should be in jail, and never operate any motor vehicle again.
@@mitchelllee879 no I earned all of my gen X points! Have the scars to prove it! Lost count of all the broken bones that I've had years ago. Age brings you in time the ability to be wise, and avoid the the chaos. BTW I have done things that most would never dream of. Time changes your perspective. Been there done did it, now it doesn't matter! Still not going... Plus I don't like the idea of wreckage landing on top of me! Just better to avoid stupid.
This is why I will never fly in to Oshkosh. There is a crash practically every year. It’s not the controllers, but simply too many aircraft operating in too close proximity
when a kid back in the 50ties my dad was glider pilot and the gyros were causing problems at el mirage in calif-every time we were out there a gyro crashed and killed someone--a lot of drunk pilots it seemed like
@@Ziggy_MoonglowI think the point everyone is trying to make here is that, it’s not the old saying “a few bad apples, etc.”, but that MOST (or ALL) gyro pilots don’t adhere to the briefings & rules… Either ur not a pilot or English is a 2nd language, which is understandable by taking the term “gyros” literally to mean just the machine… After all, EVERYONE knows machines don’t fly themselves YET…
To be clear, this accident happened during Oshkosh 2023. This video also documents the rogue pilot mentality that is pervasive during the Oshkosh airshow history. The FAA has never issued a pilot deviation for any UNSAFE flying or taxing incident during Oshkosh. The FAA publicly admits that they do not give out any pilot deviations during the Oshkosh Airshow. SEE & AVOID is an impossible rule to follow in this crowded sky.
Thought this sounded familiar. Part of the purpose and thrill is to fly "unsafely" and fun, so I think the logic is that you assume the risk and have to judge for yourself if you know what you're doing and can avoid collisions. These are small planes and not large commercial jets so it's easy to maneuver around each other in comparison to airspaces with a lot of commercial activity and in planes that move like syrup (as you'd see in major cities like Chicago and LA). It's still a big ask though! Let's hope everyone stays safe this week.
Could you imagine if the FAA *_did_* give out pilot deviations during Oshkosh? They'd need a completely separate frequency where a continuously-looping recorded message reads out the telephone number, and any pilot being given a deviation would be just told to QSY to that frequency and write down the number. But that's not all of it - what happens when a whole lot of people call the number? The FAA would need an entire call centre just to handle all the incoming calls and give out the stern warnings, etc. Just organising such a system would be a massive operation, let alone actually running it. 🤣🤣🤣
I was about 500 meters away from the ultralights field when this happened, enjoying the departures on the 36 / 18 flight line. I remember a distinctive and obvious crunch sound, and looked over to see black smoke rising. It was a beautiful day with little to no wind and great weather. It was very sobering, and a good reminder of how important safety will always be in this sport. Rest in peace.
Mark flew out of our airpark, 2AL1. I live 100 feet from the runway. For years Ive watched Mark give instruction outside the windows of my sunroom. He was the safest pilot that ever existed. When I would takeoff and land my Aeronca Mark would be on the radio constantly stating his intentions. He would hover or go to another area to make sure I had a clear path. It’s a crying shame that some careless cowboy killed him.
As an NTSB field investigator out of our Chicago office (1985 era) I was assigned to attend OskKosh for several years. Not to spread the safety word or anything that noble, but simply because we knew that accidents would happen. We launched on warning, so-to-speak. I remember a grandpa pilot and his grandson landing in a cornfield, because of engine failure, just as the entire Oshkosh event was winding down. They claimed carburetor icing. Go figure. Both were completely uninjured but without a way to get back to their Chicago suburb. They salvaged a cooler from the wrecked little Piper, and I gave them a ride home in my car. We ate their sandwiches on the way. As an aside, we would have to race the Oshkosh organizers to the crash scenes before the OskKosh fire department could clean up the accident sites and before we could properly document the wreckage for a good investigation. The EAA did not like to advertise the darker aspects of the air show.
I remember last year after 4 people got killed on the same day in two separate incidents and EAA didn't say one word about it until like 11:30 that night. Just kept right on posting on all their social media channels all day like it never happened. You can tell they'd rather sweep these incidents under the rug if they could get away with it, can't say I blame them.
And all of the over inflated egos I’ve seen commenting would tell you “it’s no big deal” or “just read the notam and it’s fine” which completely negates all the additional risk. I’m an ATP and there’s no way I’d ever fly in there, I’ll drive.
What really irritates me about this is that the one experienced pilot who took safety seriously and tried to keep the other gyro pilots straight was the one who ended up getting killed due to careless actions of those pilots. No matter how safe you are as a pilot, sometimes life can just be unfair that way.
Coming from boating, gyros in the skies seem to be like jet skis on the water … Maneuverability and easy of use give a wrong impression of control, but are no substitute for basic safety protocols.
It should have been a criminal negligence investigation. You flagrantly disobey rules of the road and cause a death , you are in big trouble.But this is the exhalted Oshcosh , by gosh and they get away with murder.
Flying to or at OSH is no light work. It was something to check off the bucket list but flying in once was all I needed to know that I won't be doing it again. Thanks for covering this Hoover.
Having way too many aircrafts flying in congested airspace is also just asking for trouble, even if there was perfect rule compliance. Random emergencies could occur and in a congested airspace there would be little room to aviate while dealing with it.
So I'm not a pilot and just enjoy watching these videos, but I wonder why it makes any sense to have a show like this, regardless of the extra controls put in place. I always shrug at the airshow thing with aviation: on the one hand, pilots are / aspire to be hyper-professional and safe, but then allow these airshow events where there's no shortage of mishaps.
@@user-bo8us6hw8b The motive is probably money for the organisers (and local businesses) and thrill-seeking for the participants. There's profit to be made from having a crowd gather.
@@user-bo8us6hw8b One of the problems is that there are no extra controls put in place. On the contrary, in order to maximize the density of landing planes they reduce the safety of the communication protocol. The ATC call the planes by model and color instead of callsign (what are the chances to have 2 planes of the same model and color in a pack of several hundred?), they land several planes simultaneously at several spots on the same runway. All the approach procedure is a call for incidents. And all that circus is FAA approved. Come to Europe and try to do something half as ambitious as Oshkosh. The local air authority will kick your ass. And they will be 100% right.
@@user-bo8us6hw8b Airshows are an important part of experimental and general aviation. There is nothing wrong with an airshow on the face of it. It is just becoming obvious to me that they are over capacity and for whatever reason are reluctant to address it. Though I have a sneaking suspicion that the reason they organizers are not reducing the number of aircraft operations at the show is primarily financial.
Serious question: how did this guy escape criminal charges??? There is no evidence of a radio instruction to him ordering him to do this, he performed a maneuver that was prohibited and problematic, and he caused a crash that killed two people. If you make similar mistakes driving a car, you get charged too. Why not here? Why does Eric Bruce get to skate?
I'm not sure but there's probably some kind of legal waiver full of whereas/forthwith/henceforth BS that will protect Eric. I wonder what kind of driver he is. What goes around comes around.
@@dicksonfranssenyou can't waiver away negligence or deliberate misconduct, just inherent dangers. He broke a clearly defined safety rule that directly caused the crash, so would have waved any protection any legal waiver might have given him.
@@dicksonfranssen Waivers do not relieve liability of negligence, only "Unforeseeable Accidents." I.e. language like, "This is an inherently dangerous activity..." implies due to possibility of human error and/or mechanical failure, which are both wholly exclusive of negligent behavior. The argument of proof will be Eric broke the "No 360 turns" rule more than once. Once is an accident, twice is a habit (voluntary or intentional). Accidents are excusable, habits are punishable.
@@branchandfoundry560 Sorry, I wasn't pretending to be something I'm not, in this case a legal expert. I'm 67 and have seen and heard of too many people getting off too lightly or all together. Obviously you're making more sense than I did. We all take our chances at getting beaned at a baseball game, it's on the back of every ticket. In this case it was dumb luck both aircraft didn't crush a group of Boy Scouts on the ground. Yes, repeatedly breaking a deadly serious rule has to have consequences.
I was the owner of Mooney destroyed in this "accident". This should never have happened. Eric should be in jail for killing Mark and his passenger. The EAA should have been held far more culpable for letting the poor Gyro behavior continue. Here's what you won't find in the report: Eric owned an ELA dealership. He was there representing ELA and was giving a demo flight. ELA also isn't stepping up to make this right for the families of the two souls lost in the helicopter or honestly, me.
@@16-BITFPV Do the world a favor. Get a loaded gun...aim it at your head...pull the trigger....and watch your head implode with the piercing of the internal vacuum.
My ex’s second husband is at the bottom of Lake Michigan in his Gyro after leaving Oshkosh in the summer of 98. They’ve never recovered his body or aircraft. He was a UAL A320 pilot.
In years past, I attended Oshkosh 4 or 5 times but never by air. From the ground, the landings and take-offs look beautifully choreographed but as a low-time pilot never felt my skills were refined enough to feel safe. I drove and let my Sonerai IIL set at home.
Prayers out to the family and friends of these two pilots. The gyro guy sounded so very dangerous to other pilots and viewers on the ground. He needs to be dealt with serious consequences. Not that will bring Mark and Tom back. Tragic.❤
Many years ago when I was at Oshkosh, two planes collided. Everybody looked up, and down came one of them with a whirl of bright blue flames covering it. For the next hour there was no mention of it on the loudspeakers. I seem to remember they said a good EAA'er dosen't deposit trash on the ground, but drops it in the litter boxes. I thought it was evasive and tasteless. I never went back.
After attending this air event for the first time… I have never seen such arrogance, conceit and self centeredness from the vast majority of the pilots in attendance…
I was at Boeing plaza when this happened. You could see a cloud of black smoke over to the South. This wasn't the only fatal accident that day. A plane crashed into lake Winnebago.
Some years ago when I got my training to fly paramotors, I was invited to the Bad Apples Fly-in in Andersonville, Georgia. I got set up for take-off and looked around and there were at least 40 other people preparing to take off. I wondered what would happen if someone made a mistake and ran into someone else. There were many pilots in the air. GREAT VIDEO!
I've heard about Oshkosh and how hard it is to maneuver, this brings it to a new level, following the rules just is a must! Thank you, Hoover, for yet another great Debrief.
Best piece of advice i got, with regards to collision avoidance was "be predictaable." Of all the near misses i've had, they were ALL the result of someone doing something unpredictable. (me included). I fly the Hudson river for work. There are always people flying against the prescribed traffic flow, and they almost always have some sort of conflict.
Silly argument. That's like banning guns after a shooting. Inanimate objects are not the cause . . . piling on with generalizations doesn't help your argument.
First responsibility - the gyro pilot, who should face criminal charges. This was deliberate, deciding that they could put others at risk Second, the airshow organisers who refused to keep others safe by not grounding and banning this pilot for blatant disregard of rules
Absolutely unacceptable. Follow the dang rules. When everyone’s lives are dependent on the skill & attention of one another, you can’t have people making up their own rules along the way. Two people lost their lives because someone felt the rules didn’t apply him. RIP to the men in the helicopter. 🚁
Over the years, starting in 1977, I flew into the Oshkosh airspace a half dozen times to attend the EAA Airventure. The first time was in the right seat of a Piper Warrior flown by a CFII, with a landing at OSH. Never again! The other times in a Baron landing at ATW. In the Baron I always had a rated and qualified pilot in the right seat. That airspace is no place to fool around in.
Oshkosh sounds like a place to be avoided at all costs. I used to watch Ice Pilots, and Joe McBryan refused to go year after year, until they finally went, I'm guessing for the sake of the show? I can understand why someone wouldn't want to take one of their revenue generating aircraft there.
I don't know from aviation, but I live in WI, and it seems like there's a fatal crash there every year. That's probably an exaggeration, but I have wondered, as a very non-aviator, why the show continues.
It works alright as long as everyone reads and follows the instructions. Flown in a few times myself. The updates they did in 2021 make it a lot safer.
Yes I always want to go there but everything sounds😳kinda sketchy. So much traffic 4 planes landing at the same time. Fast and slow planes mixed up. The big problem was no discipline. A guy takes a 360 tell them to leave. It has to be very clear with clear consequences. Also the experienced pilot should have told his passenger keep your eyes on that gyrocopter they sometimes make 360 turns. Had he said that perhaps it could have been avoided. Yes anyone who breaks the rules you tell them to leave! So sorry someone lost their lives. Not sure what the helicopter pilot was doing. Have to keep your eyes at least on the plane in front or gyrocopter in this case. Ya it was not his fault but he and his passenger are dead. Guess you really need to look around in heavy traffic conditions. Lots of visibility in a helicopter.
@@angelalalley7593there is not fatalities at the show every year I have volunteered there for 15 years! There are always accidents the week of the show and any airplane accident the week of the show is blamed on the show sadly. EAA maintains a safe operation with some exceptions to people not following rules.
I was in the Army for over 21 years. During that time, the term "accidental discharged" was replaced by "negligent discharge" when related to weapons. While initially, I was a bit shocked by this change, after a few minutes of thought, it made perfect sense. If you follow the rules and procedures, there is no such thing as an accidental discharge. This is no different. It's not an accident, it's negligence.
What is the rationale for cramming all of these aircraft together once a year? It is obvious to me that the size of the event has exceeded the ability to conduct it safely. There should be additional limitations on the number of arrival and departure slots as well as addition restrictions on the number of demonstration flights. Continuing down this path will just lead to more knee jerk reactions by the FAA to "fix the problems with GA and experimental aircraft." "Fixes" that will extend far beyond the temporary problems that Oshkosh creates.
Non-pilot here. I concur. I have to ask why does the FAA go along with this wildly dense concentration of moving aircraft? Seems the FAA has some responsibility to dial this down.
Oshkosh is the holy grail for pilots from around the world. It's THE single biggest event for fans of aviation. The entire planet descends on Wisconsin for one week. A million people go through the exhibit, over 10,000 airplanes land there. With over 20,000 aircraft operations (around 150 takeoffs/landings per day!!), it accounts for nearly 10% of ALL general aviation flying in USA, and nearly one THIRD of controlled GA flying. With that much flying, in such tight space, over such short period of time, Oshkosh is considerably safer than average flying around USA. The number of fatalities is very low, thanks to exceedingly rigid and elaborate safety procedures there. And when they do happen, it is due to someone failing to follow the procedure.
@@vasicp Or like the other day, refusing repeatedly to divert to FDL or Appleton for fuel and ending up running out of gas while in the pattern. You can only do so much for somebody before they wind up getting themselves killed.
this makes my stomach turn. just lost a friend of mine in a helicopter crash. as a helicopter pilot myself, i can’t help but get so upset watching extremely preventable crashes be caused by negligent pilots.
I fly a gyro, I have about the same number of hours as Eric. A 360 degree turn in any circuit sounds ridiculous. Gyros are hard to see, clear comms are essential, as is being predictable. Oshkosh looks hard enough without this happening.
I'm heading to OSH tomorrow -- except I'm not doing the arrival. I'm flying my RV to a nearby airport, renting a car, and driving to Scholler. Much safer that way. I've done the Fisk and Sun n Fun arrivals several times and concluded it's just a zoo with no accountability for pilots who violate the NOTAM.
Great timing on this Pilot Debrief. This accident brought a lot of uproar in the GA community and with all of the rules being broken, there have still been ZERO brashers issued to anyone at EAA. Dan Gryder has also been trying his best to push this into the light and I believe EAA just changed some of the rules or procedures that might help. I guess we’ll see. The fact that any aircraft was repeatedly doing tight 360s in the pattern, even for spacing, is beyond me. And for it to go on for days making people laugh in the safety briefing is so infuriating. When that gyro banked it hard, he lost all SA and the last the helicopter was thinking was that someone would come in and hit him from the side while in the pattern. Please be safe. Great job Hoover. RIP 🙏🏼
When someone laughs in a safety briefing and isn't kicked out and grounded immediately, you know that the person giving the safety briefing cares even less than the one who is laughing. Then you're on your own when you decide to put your life in their hands.
@@christianbarnay2499 hard to think that authority actually and appropriately applied today is thought 'non-essential' so to speak. people don't care for it and that's putting it gently.
@@bwfvc7770 Oh god, I thought the internet already rid itself from people like you. You have to bank an airplane to turn or orbit. Do you understand this? Or it that you’re just upset with Hoover, myself, and everyone else in the comments section for not calling this maneuver an “orbit”? Calm down and go to bed bro. Don’t bring those negative attitude over to this side.
As someone who is a major fan of gyroplanes, it really saddens me to hear that not only did he ignore rules, get people killed, but other gyro pilots were also called out for breaking the rules with dangerous performances. Like, the gyro community already has a bad wrap as being a dangerous aircraft in come corners, pilots just outright ignoring safety and the dangers of heavy air traffic doesnt help and it makes me wonder if there will need to simply be bans put in place against gyro pilots unless they can prove they will follow rules in the future.
I was at Oshkosh in 1974. It was an awesome experience and one I'll never forget. I was amazed at the number of aircraft landing and taking off. I was a Citabria pilot and I was glad I didn't fly in. I can only imagine what's it's like today.
@@CineSoaryeah...what gets me about that clip is how the controller never let up on his mike, just held the air for so long. Would it have safe, and appropriate, for the pilot to go around if he didn't feel he had a safe way to follow instructions?
@@cc-toPIlot in command has the ultimate authority for the safety of the flight. Do what you have to do to live and deal with the paperwork later. In the case of Oshkosh there are too many violations for the FAA to manage. I’m sure people love flying in, but I’ll leave my wings at home and take 4 wheel transportation. Easy for me to say because I live in nearby Minnesota.
As a 30 year tower controller, I have noticed that pilots not used to controlled airports think a left 360 is the answer to everything. As a general rule, it is absolutely the worst thing you can do. We do use this maneuver for spacing on the downwind, but suddenly deciding to do this maneuver without being instructed to makes you suddenly aiming toward another aircraft who is low and slow and not much time to react. This has been responsible for a lot of the gray hair on my head, and in my opinion was totally responsible for this accident.
Gyro guy is one of these drivers who decides to do a random U-turn in the middle of the street. I think the problem is when events are really well run pilots can get a false sense of safety because they are never in near misses. Consequently they start to "play". Gyros sound like the Mustangs of the sky. Whether or not he thought it was safer to do a 360 rather than go around doesn't matter, he cant see the larger picture nor understand how controller want the traffic to flow - all of the other pilots are EXPECTING the traffic to flow a certain way. This guy jumped on his brakes to make a sudden turn across traffic into a fast food joint without checking and got t-boned - only we are in 3 dimensions here. Hopefully he will face some consequences.
