I live in the Rockies and burn pine almost exclusively for heat because it’s all we’ve got. It makes a fast, intense fire and, as far as I can tell, has about the same heat per weight as hard woods. Of course a given volume like a cord has less weight. Pine makes a lot less ash than hardwood so you can burn longer between clean outs. The coals don’t last nearly as long as hardwood but you can usually get your fire going in the morning if you damp back before going to bed. It smells incredible and makes a lovely fire.
@@InTheWoodyard quite the excaggerator you are. Us wood snobs as you call us obviously have more experience with wood burning the you. And never have I see anyone that said their house will explode by burning pine. Pine burns good and it can be used for firewood safely. But for you to bullshit people on it being as safe as other woods just shows your inexperience.
Well Chris, I sold out completely last night. Nothing but cookies and chunks left and they are selling pretty fast. Maybe a cord of it left. Gotta try and increase production for next year. Thanks for all you do for us. I have learned a lot from your videos.
Hi Chris, love your site and learned so much before I buy wood for my 2 months in my camp area in Northern BC. Ur such a asset for single gals Ike myself that love being in bush n important to know everything about firewood 👍🙏🏻😁
Hi Chris - it's Big Rodders in Ireland. I like your choice in Blues music. If you're a firewood snob here you'll end up mighty cold because the bulk of available woods are softwoods. In ways I much prefer them as they provide ready intense heat and burning them hot in a stove ensures no flue problems. I'm lucky to be able to get Tree Service wood for about $30 a cord but I must take what there's so I've learnt not to be fussy, just grateful!
Pine and spruce is about all we burn in northern Manitoba Canada. Same situation, all we really have. I sell a lot of pine as campfire wood as well. That snap crackle pop from the pitch is pure entertainment.
I'm a truck driver. How the fuel surcharge works, well the easiest way to explain it is. When diesel is over a certain price a small portion or small percentage of the fuel cost is forwarded to the receiver of the product. It start back in 04 or 05 when we had the last major fuel spike and just never went away. But then again the fuel never returned to normal.
When you started loading that trailer at high speed....first I noticed you unbuttoned your jacket and then later took it off! Firewood work heating you up! I like that about firewood....and the work pays off! HA HA
I like pine for shop stove. Otherwise pine's wasted in the burn pile. Like you said, it is not a big creosote maker if dried well. When I was a kid I remember those ladies that cooked on a wood stove preferred pine because it burned hot, fast and coals didn't stay, this gave them control over how hot and how long the cook stove was ready to match the recipe.
Living here in California we burn a lot of pine and eucalyptus, all good firewood and burns well as long as it's dry. We also have a chimney sweep done every year just to be safe.
In US you are burning real hardwoods like oak etc... but in Estonia we don't have that much oak, nobody is burning oak and ash or maple... it's very rare if they do. Mostly we use birch, alder.. but also pine, spruce etc. Oak is considered sacred tree that people don't cut.
Totally agree. Pine is fine! We burn 90% pine, because that’s what we have out west. I load the stove at night and it’s still burning in tge morning. I add more and head to work. House hasn’t exploded yet!
Hey ! I was just responding to your video that pine was fine! We have all types, but I could fill the Great Lakes with pine! I also have sweet gum, all types of oak, other hardwoods , just looking for a market up north , I am in Mississippi! Don’t overlook me , I might be a good prospect for cut and split wood! We can’t get as much as you guys get per cord, we barely have a few freezes down here! You can probably buy it from me, even with shipping, cheaper than you can produce it! I have friends in Minnesota and they need wood! Just saying!
I do not have many people who want pine, I had a full truck load 16 cords delivered and I cut split and stacked it 2 years ago an I still have half of it. So.....
A proper seasoned softwood like pine or fir is fine, we don't check % if it was pulled from a down tree or a standing dead, and set stacked and split for the summer it's going to be good! Over here (west coast) 275 for seasond doug fir is the going rate. 375 for madrone. And yew wood is mostly unavailable P.s. this winter has not been bad at all, but January will tell the tale!
Burns black, snaps n pops sends hot embers flying, pine sap all over everything, no weight, short burn time, and yes it creates waaaay more creosote in the flue. If you have no hardwoods then I guess have at er. Where I live we just had Dutch elm disease and emerald ash borer sweep thru in the last 20 years. Lots of standing dead hardwood around here.
Red pine is a fantastic firewood - especially the pieces that have knots in them - loads of heat, just have to make the pieces a little bigger to give the same burn time as the hardwoods
Chris, just imagine if the firewood business followed the lumber prices the last two years! For the quality product you deliver I can see why no one would complain about your 9% increase.
I dropped a massive Eastern White Pine on my property a few years ago. I couldn’t bear to waste it so I bucked it up and split it. It burned fast and hot, and was actually not bad when mixed with some hardwood. I have lost 2 back windows on my trucks over the years. Finally I just bought a back rack.
As long as Pine is dry its fine for inside burning. Lots of people believe the creosote from fresh pines builds up, if you burn it dry it doesn't cause a problem. Great video Chris. Have a Safe Day
I used to think burning any pine except for kindling would cause problems when burning in a wood stove or fireplace. Then got educated on it and stopped being a "firewood snob".
My grandfather had property out in a pine forest here in Texas… he would drop 2-3 cords of wood a year and use it to heat his workshop/shed as well as his enclosed patio. He would drop it drag it to the barn buck split and stack it and season it for 2-3 years… never had an issue in his house or shed in the 10 years I helped him split and stack it
I've been raising my prices every year gradually... My face cords are now $140.00, Cords are $360.00 like yours, bundles are $8.00 each or 3-for $20.00. Chainsaw chains aren't cheap! Delivery charge is between $1.50 to $2.00 a mile one way charge. Your Channel has helped me grow a successful Firewood business and I'm thankful for that. Have a great day Chris!
another great vid chris! i have no problem burning dry pine!!i prefer hardwood but in a pinch some wood is better than none!!! a warm wife is a happy wife! haha!
I'm thinking about making a sign for the end of my dock for campfire wood this year, delivery by boat. Thinking probably half a facecord as the standard amount, that fits perfectly in my tractor bucket without having to pile it up. I have at least 30 full cords of pine and hemlock that I have to do something with
@@InTheWoodyard there are 3 ‘smaller’ connected lakes with very little undeveloped shoreline. There is a mix of year round and seasonal houses, rentals, weekenders, etc
Chris a 6x12 or 7x14 dump trailer will allow you to throw a cord of wood in lose. Don't have to stack it like in your current trailer. I have burn pine before and letting it dry out and had no problems with it. Though you like to know. Have a great day be safe.
You gave that hornet a severe case of “ separation anxiety “. Noticed on your first dump how pristine the pile was, not a speck of dirt or debris. Seems like all your customers have very tidy yards/homes, hope you make a point of advertising your wood is hand-loaded, clean , dirt free truly Premium. The best product should command the top dollar, you get what you pay for. Take care,Chris
Yup, not to mention bringing a bit more intense flame to a fire that's smoldering a bit too much. Plus it smells great! I like to use it at the start to really get the harder woods going.
In Chicago a full cord goes for $700-800. Lots of people no trees. In a lot of very rural areas with lots of trees and few people a full cord goes for $150.
I've also been thinking about upping my prices 10% I sell a face for 100 with free delivery I am thinking 110 like you said everything has gone up quite a bit the past 6 months or so I do t think my customers will have an issue because I always have top quality wood and premium service
in many areas pine and juniper may be the only options. We use pine to start our fires and maybe take the chill out of the air in the mornings. Fires we want to last the night and keep a steady warmth we throw a couple big logs of juniper that will last the night.
Mulberry pops and cracks yeah I was always told not to burn pine to in the wood stove I'm almost 40 years old thank you for the information and about the Yellow Jacket yeah I don't like him either got fruit trees and they are everywhere thank you for the Headless yellow jacket! One less we have to worry about
110$ for face cord is high. Not sure what state you’re in. It looks cold. 75$ a face cord down here in GA. It went up from 65$. Pine pretty much isn’t used here but have got for 50$ a face cord. There is pine everywhere in GA but not used for firewood much.
That was 2 years ago, I now charge $120 for most firewood face cords but cherry and hickory (hard to get) is $130 and it all includes free delivery within ten miles. In the Chicago area a face cord sells for $200-300 all day every day ....the moral of the story is supply and demand...colder climate and fewer trees and lots of people equals higher prices....few people and lots of trees in a warm climate equals cheap/free firewood.
Raising prices is a good thing. Hopefully everyone comes to their senses and follows. The inflation rate is 7% that means everything must go up that much to remain the same .
Dang Firewood snobs! Some of my customers have said in person, phone call to find out where my stand is, and in messages said "I don't care what it is as long as it isn't pine." One of my customers uses the wood in a small wood stove in his mobile home and loves the size of my splits. If it wasn't for your commentary on the size of the splits, especially in your early videos, my sales might bot have been as good as they were. Size of the splits is the 2nd best piece of advice you've given. Your advice on curting ad much as you can and sell only dry wood are tied for first place.
And my state and Connecticut I charge to 25A cord I've only gone up to 250 I refuse to sell anybody a court award for 360 box that is totally ridiculous I have my logs delivered for $100 tree-length the load curve cord and I still make plenty of profit Amor greedier the moyer was going to sit in the yard not about profit it's about being a good good good person and help people out it will come back to you 17 million times more cuz then you have a steady customer that will buy from you all the time if you give them a better deal
You could make a few bucks exporting the kinco gloves to the UK. No uk stockists. Good gloves got a pair off eBay took ages to arrive then got stung by import tax!
There's a huge myth that burning conifers creates excessive amounts of creosote. The truth is that people usually have poor draft or fire their stoves wrong. I burnt spruce, pine, fir, and tamarack at my last place. I always kept a hot fire and never had issues in my indoor wood furnace. A couple ounces of creosote destroyer every now and then didn't hurt either.
I have Ash, Oak, Maple, Birch, Poplar, and Pine. Today it is warmer out so I am burning Red Pine. I also make lumber from my Red Pine, so I am burning the slab wood, limbs and top wood.
been burning pine for ages. Never had an issue. with all the pine beetle kill out west (due to weaker winters not keeping their populations in check) there's tons of dead standing lodgepole. Bone dry the day you fell it.
I am curious about the trailer size you used to haul the cord of wood. A stacked cord of wood is 128 cubic feet. If you were using a 6 x 12 trailer with 3 foot sides - that comes out to 216 cubic feet (tossed in loose). Is this about right? Enjoyed you video!
Chris here in upstate NY $65 a face cord is what it sells for that’s good hardwood. I have tried to get 75 and it just won’t sell cause I know there are guys selling it for 50 .
I never had an issue with pine. It was great for kindling. I clean my pipes a few times a season. I burned it a whole season. If you clean your flue pipes on a regular bases its a non issue
Hi Chris I believe with prices going up on everything in the supermarket and pressures of cost of living in the US, PEOPLE aren’t going to argue for a small increase especially when inflation is 5% there. In Australia we had a 3% increase in inflation but things are much dearer than 3% more like 20% in some cases on household staples especially on budget branded products. Now back to the wood yard. Lumber prices in the US have increased as in Canada, how that May effect you in the near future. I often see lots of handling from logs to cutting, splitting to loading and unloading. I’m sure there are better ways from cutting logs to loading but the downside is expense. I know your families history and your involvement in this industry and what I’ve seen over the months there’s a big investment in time for that Full FaceQuart. I’m assuming this would be the same for your brothers operation to what I’ve seen being a bit bigger, please correct me if I’m wrong. One to start from scratch pay rent, logs, storage to mature there’s a lots of hard work and expense before your first sale. Free wood still cost you money in time but a bonus. Environmental damage with burning wood and Governments around the world being pressured to reduce their impacts on the environment is another story in the future. Have a wonderful day....😀🇦🇺🦘
people do burn cottonwood, but not because they want to, it is not great wood, it will burn but most other wood is better. It is okay for campfire wood.
Great job. I agree entirely with "overdelivering". I've always been worried about pine in our wood stove. I'm curious - and maybe I've missed it in a previous video - you handle a LOT of wood. What gloves do you find hold up best? Do you wear insulated versions in the winter and uninsulated gloves in the summer?
Because wood boilers burn a lot hotter to burn off the excess sap we do not burn pine in the eastern states because of the fact it will clog up your chimney a lot faster
I disagree. My brother and 2 friends of mine have wood boilers and they burn DRY pine all the time and never have a problem. As a matter of fact my brother burned ONLY red pine for an entire winter and never had a problem. Not burning pine is a myth. Out west that is all they have to burn, so they do.
New subscriber. I’m a newbie to firewood. Getting my first wood stove soon. A Blaze King. I ordered a load of ash and locust full cord $200 delivered. Sounds like I’m getting a great deal here in upstate ny. Thanks for teaching me about firewood. Last year propane was 2.69 gal, this year $4.59. I’m done. Also I have 7 acres of white pine some are down. After hearing this I’m definitely going to dry it good and burn it in bigger pieces like you said. Thanks 🙏
Pine is fine. I’m burning oak, maple, cedar and pine. Inside my fireplace. Burns nice and nice pops with nice flames. I’m a fan. Just make sure it’s dry like you said. Burns fast but I just mix what I burn.
When a full cord went to $165 here where I live, I started cutting my own. I am on a fixed income and there is no way I could afford your wood, I cut about 6 cords each summer, at your price that would be about $2,160 for one winter, I guess it is nice to have rich customers to sell to, but most regular people do not have that much money to throw away, and around here where I live, the gas company actually dropped their price and gave a $100 rebate to all of their customers. If I had to buy wood, it would be much cheaper to use gas. Cutting my own wood from my nephew's land, gets his land cleared and gives me something to do all summer and almost free wood. Oh I am 75 years old now and still cutting by myself . I haul it and split and stack it, and finish about the middle of August.
@@InTheWoodyard I enjoy my wood fire all winter, and it keeps me warm and toasty . I know the professional firewood producers like you can process a lot more firewood a lot faster than I ever could, and can't understand why it should be almost $400 a cord though. I can buy a tri-axel load for less than $800 a load ,about 7 cords on average, at your price $2,520 that give you $1,720 for processing it . As far as fires for enjoyment, I can understand that, I enjoy being out in the woods cutting trees and making my own firewood. I do it to stay alive all winter though. at $360 a cord I would be dead by now.
I broke a window throwing scrap steel into my truck. A round piece slid right up and threw the back window. I got it replaced for $150 so wasnt too bad.
If you measure that amount of heat that a dry pice of firewood produces divided by it weight, almost all species produce about the same. If you burn 100 pounds of oak it gives you the same amount of heat as 100 pounds of pine, of course you'll burn more pieces of pine because it is lighter.
8600 btu per pound of wood, regardless of species, assuming 0% moisture. Obviously, 0% moisture isn't attainable, but the dryer your wood is, the less energy that's wasted boiling off the water. The higher the wood density, the higher the energy output will be from burning, per unit of volume. It's all simple science.
Wrong. Most of the wood burned in the western USA is pine and a lot of Canada and Alaska and much of Europe is PINE. Dry wood is the key. My brother heated his house one year with only pine and he had no problems. I used it in my fireplace for about 4 years straight an d I burned about 2 full cords a year...no problems.
I went up 20bucks this year as well.. Between gasoline, and a Wolfe Ridge I need to pay for I needed to.. I am getting 2 small loads of Doug fir logs this weekend too..
WHEN PEOPLE LEARN HOW WELL PELLET STOVES HEAT,AND SO MUCH CHEEPER,CLEANER.YOULL LOOSE CUSTOMERS.I BOUGHT AND BURNED WOOD FOR 30 YEARS,GOT A PELPRO 70 STOVE AND THREW THE WOOD STOVE IN THE TRASH.
@@InTheWoodyard ha ha ha,realy,I'm 68 and burned wood 50 years,and baleaved nothing was as good.but when I got my pelpra 70,haven't bought wood or built the first fire,just turn the dial and add pellets. $5 heats the house 27 hours,and no more lifting heavy wood.
$360 a cord is wild to me(no hate at all money is money and business is business) full cord of seasoned hardwood in my area(souther new england) goes for $250 average
In Chicago it goes for $700-800. In the DC area it is $600-700 in Milwaukee it is $400 -500 and in rural Wisconsin just an hour away fro me it goes for $180 ....location location location.
@@InTheWoodyard absolutely! I've been fortunate enough to gain a good relationship with my local tree service guy and he drops off trailer loads of hardwoods for me for free
Green wood burns slower,,hotter and if you get your chimney cleaned every year ,,no problem with creosote. Burn green wood all the time for the past 20 plus years.
I burn nothing but pinion and a bit of spruce. I heat entirely with wood because my home is entirely off grid. Other pine does not get burned here. We can not cut in the winter because the snow is far to deep but conifer is all we have at 8000' and above. My pinion seasons for no less than 2 years so creosote in the stove pipe is minimal.
Somwone bought all the locust he had, was hoping it was you, but someone else beat us to the punch. So instead getting barkless oak. If I heard him right, the wood is mostly 16-20in. Was either that or green oak. That is going to make my saws really earn their keep. The saws have had it east with Ash, maple, cherry, snd a random oak. Now they'll have to handle a whole load of oak. By the way, if you get scared of your 592xp, I'll teach it some manners in the oak.
