My goal is to make a trip to Canada just to meet these gents in person, even if no fitting was involved (which there would be). Simply the best channel ever.....no question 👍🏻
@@doctorstrange2549 Yeah same, if it ever becomes economically feasbile, that would be fantastic. However, being over 6000 kilometers away, that might be a couple of years 😂
Ouch! I’m a PING guy and I love the G410 3 wood, I have the standard I think it would have been the better fit for Matt’s swing.... but I’m just finding excuses for myself! What a great Upset, I Love the brackets but they can be soo heart breaking! LOL
don't be. PING is still a good product. Exotics is unknown but I assure you that it is as good as top names out there. I play this 3 wood and it is a monster. I reach par 5's easily now.
Hey TXG, I always miss the live Q&A but had a really interesting question... Light shaft / heavy swingweight vs heavy shaft / light swingweight - who is suited to each and what effects would that have?
It’s funny how both clubs that won this round probably would be the ones that wouldn’t be chosen in a fit because they tended to be more draw bias which when things are that close the player would most likely prefer the club that doesn’t accentuate their miss.
Love this, and absolutely love your channel. Wish I could hit bombs like Matt!! I play a full set of Tour Edge Clubs, (and that they’re great clubs for le$$ than the other guys) so I hope they don’t get too popular that it changes their price point. (In other words, shhhhhhh.... 🤫 don’t tell everyone how good they are, or I won’t be able to afford them anymore!!!) Haha
Ping has their 410 series on sale right now so prices are similar, but when they were full price the EXS was about $75-100 less depending on where you live
It's something the guys also made a point about when testing forged blades versus player improvement irons, and also when they did a Ping iron fitting with a mid level handicap player - consistency and predictability.
The best part of the Tour Edge is that you can get it in 16.5 degrees. That is basically a 4 wood. I love mine. So easy to hit and that is coming from someone who struggled for years trying to hit fairway woods. I actually find myself hitting it off the tee on certain holes and I never would do that before. I had major trust issues with fairway woods before this club. I'm a 8 HCP by the way.
Wait a second. Is the standard deviation result due to the EXS performing more similarly off the tee and off the deck? So it looked more like one homogeneous data set rather than two merged data sets (as with the Ping)? For measuring standard deviation I would think you would need to examine them without merging the tee balls and fairway shots.
yes, but it essentially means that the EXS performed the same even when the strike location moved up a bit (as a result of being on a tee). As we mentioned that may not be for everyone, but it's a great potential feature in terms of consistency and distance control. Also have to remember this is mostly for fun and to show everyone how all these different fairways perform, picking winners just adds a bit of entertainment
Nice guys awesome to watch ty!!! And I just ordered the 3 220 two days ago and iam hitting the mavrik max 3 wood ,,, just needed a change i hope for the better!!! I also hit the tour edge 220 driver and I really love it ,,, anyway ty guys very much always a great job !!!!
Tour exotics ex10 line was pure! glad to see they're starting to appear on youtube because there was absolutely no information about the ex10 line throughout its lifetime
For me, this wasn't even close if you watched the flights and looked at the Standard Deviations - the EXS_220 just flew the same every time - that's what you look for in a gamer and why once you find a 3 wood that you know what it's going to do, you never change it. Matty could start that left edge on every shot and it would draw into the target every time from 110 feet and 3500 spin - that is basically a perfect 3 wood. The Pro version, with the swappable (L/R) weights, would give you a straight ball - but I don't think straight flights are the best gamers.
It's really a shame that the Exotics EXS Pro FW is not available in a left-handed model! At least off the tee, I believe that the EXS Pro would have excelled. I own both the EXS 220 and EXS Pro hi-launch 3 woods (at 16.5* loft, I consider them to be 4-woods), and my choice regarding which one goes in my bag on any given day is dependent solely on what course I will be playing, and from what set of tees. If I expect to be hitting the fairway wood from the tee that day, it's the deeper-faced, lower-spinning EXS Pro; however, if I will be playing a course where I will be hitting fairway wood off the deck (meaning a course with longish par-5 holes), it's the EXS 220 fairway that day.
I've had success with TE Exotics fairway for 4 yrs, starting with the EX10, then the EX10 Beta (Ti). I've always cut the stock shaft and put in a GD AD F 65 in the fairways, Forgiving, long, good height. Went to the EXS 220 in the 16.5 this year, changed out stock shaft and it's easier to hit straight than the EX10 Beta. Now trying to consider whether to keep the EX10 Beta 5 wd or go to EXS 220. As to Ping, I just haven't found it longer or more consistent in a G400 when I pitted it against the EX10 Beta.
Wow, did not expect that result. The 100k give away is hands down the ultimate golfing prize. Best I've EVER heard of. Way better than any manufacturer give away because with the fitting the winner gets the best clubs for them, not the best clubs from a limited range.
Interesting, but not surprising, outcome given previous testing of the TE Exotics. Lack of an adjustable sleeve would mean a (good) fitting would be needed to ensure it delivered on the 'promise' though. Am very interested in how a slower swing speed might change the outcome of all the bracket face-offs and the ultimate winner. Could you do a bracket with the inimitable Ronnie?
Kinda bummed TEE is getting in the public eye....guaranteed to drive their $$ up! 😉 Not surprised by the win here at all. Another quality vid gentlemen. 👍🏻
did NOT expect this. nice showing by tour edge. i’m kinda with matty. the flight and curvature looked more a bit better with ping. but the numbers don’t lie. great win for tee!!!
I play a Tour Edge 3 wood. One thing to watch out for is swingweight. After cracking the face in mine, I sent it in for replacement which they did. Reused the shaft which was a perfect fit and the new one swingweighted much lighter. A bunch of lead tape later and I have the perfect 3 wood again
I think it was pretty obvious that the Ping was better for Matty. The tour edge spun too much for him. But for someone who struggles to get the launch on their woods, that exs looks perfect.
Can y’all try to review the exotics with the special nunchuk shaft? Really heavy that’s what I have but based on how I hit everything else something is special about that shaft
BloodySoup74 I thought I read Wilson’s ownership group was trying to get more aggressive in golf. He wasn’t under contract for the driver and fairway from my understanding unless he got something he felt comfortable with. I didn’t see any drop off from what I could tell although he lost some weight too so different body making the swing. Their Staff line of irons have typically been reviewed well since the FG Tour. Streelman took second using Wilson a couple weeks ago at the Travelers and Brendan Steele has had some decent showings too. Will be interesting since Woodland had some awesome fairway wood shots during his US Open win.
@@brentninedorf6617 Dont get me wrong I do like Wilson's new line of golf equipment. Love their FG irons. Its just money to these tour players. Those guys are so good that they should be able to play with anything. I switched from my 10 year old mizunos to new mizunos 2 years ago and now it feels like I added 5 strokes to my game.
Only time I’ve ever hit an exotic fairway that didn’t perform great was if it had a completely wrong shaft in it for me. Otherwise they were always just as good as anyone else. Only reason I don’t play my E8 still is because if gapping because I hit it to far 🤣
I play the G410 it’s an absolute killer in finding the fairway and long, I have wanted to try the Tour edge but unfortunately not available in Australia.
No EXS pro for lefties, but would love to see Ian test that series if you can get your hands on them. Seems like the regular EXS series is a bit high spin for us guys that need to take some off.
I have both the EXS 220 and EXS Pro fairways (and an EXS Pro driver), and there is a rather dramatic difference in spin, and overall performance, between the two lines (I'm a Tour Edge Exotics Fitter/Dealer, so I get to try all of their clubs and all shaft options, plus I have some other aftermarket shafts in Exotics adapters to hit in the EXS 220 and EXS Pro drivers). The EXS Pro driver and fairway are definitely both low-spin beasts in the right hands. For my rather meager 95-97 MPH clubhead speed, particularly when compared to Matt and Ian, I am seeing about 400 - 500 RPM lower spin with the EXS Pro driver and 350 - 400 RPM lower spin with the EXS pro 3-wood with my swing. I hit my driver with an approximately 2* to 4* upward angle on decent swings, and am flat to about 1.5* up with my 3-wood, so I'm not a super high-spin guy, but I find the spin numbers with the EXS Pro driver and fairway to be slightly preferable. The only time that I appreciate the added spin from the shallower-faced EXS 220 3-wood is when I hit it off the deck (a little extra spin is always appreciated when hitting downwind, but it's extremely rare to find a golf course where you are hitting downwind on all holes).
Didn't really make sense after watching how Matt hit the G410 LST fairway last year. He was getting ball speeds of 169 and hitting it straight carrying it near 300 yards. And you both stated it was the best fairway he had ever hit. This year it loses in first round of bracket. Results seem conflicting and confusing.
Hey Matty you wait alot for groupmin front to get off green????lol I know you do with that swing killing it brother ,,,Sweet,, IAM on in 3 par 5s ,,your a driver and a wedge lol good for you great job guys !!!!
Question: does combining the Tee and Off-the-Deck data punish clubs that perform differently in those scenarios (like the G410 LST) because they will have wider standard deviations? Shouldn't the categories be looked at separately and see what the standard deviation is off the deck, then separately what it is off a tee? Seems that a club shouldn't be "punished" in standard deviation because it separates itself off the tee vs deck. It could very well have a tight standard deviation in both but they produce different enough numbers that the overall SD is higher. Just a thought... love all your guys' work!
I think Matt hit the E3wood longer and better with stock shaft on previous video which shows that putting your 'personal ' shaft on any club head out there does not mean its better than stock in this case. A particular shaft will give you different feel with different heads. Just my opinion. On your Tour Edge video posted June 12th, Matt was carrying it 305 with 325 total.
I recently purchased the Tour Edge driver (10.5) and 3 wood (16.5) with senior flex shafts. So far, for my senior game, I could not be happier. I do want to purchase the weight set for the driver and experiment with that. Given price and value, for the average golfer, Tour Edge is difficult to beat.
just dont see how the Sim will get knocked off the top , it is a monster.. its the Bryson of fairway woods. I cant compare my ability to others but I have tried the sim, Callaway, ping, Titleist, Cleveland, cobra and Sim Max and the SIM TI was just has a higher gear.
As for which 3-wood I'd be putting my hard-earned cash on in this bracket, I am sad to say that as much as I love the TE Exotics EXS Series of fairway metals, I would probably go with the SIM. I'm hoping for an upset by the EXS 220, but I know that it will be an uphill battle for sure!
I find it hard to say the Tour Edge won when the player says he's picking the Ping based on the numbers. Also, Ian keeps saying the Mavrik Sub Zero is in the bracket but I'm pretty sure the standard Mavrik won the play in round, not the Sub Zero.
I believe it would be really interesting to do this same bracket but using a 14-18 handicapper. There may be different results do to inconsistent strikes.
Between these 2 I would 100% take the ping on these results. I prefer the characteristics to change slightly off the tee and like value proximity above all else. I think the Mavrik SZ would destroy either of them.
Is it me or am I seeing a bit more shaft flex with Matts latest shaft?? Think SIM is going to take this one but dont count out Mavrik just yet. Cheers from Norcal
Glad to see the Tour Edge EXS shakes out as a good option! I've been eyeing it lately because it's price was much lower and was VERY curious about this episode specifically.
Whats really interesting, in every test theres different winners in different categories Shows the value of fitting! In different hands you could easily see that result reversed. Great for tour edge, are they the new Adams?
Considering that Tour Edge is keeping it close with a much friendlier price point... tour edge should be proud of the products that they are putting out.
