In the lore they act like mini super computer so the data of rose form may still be here as of some of here souvenirs, but I thinks it's more like the way file you erase from a storage are still accessible some how.
She's gone, but there still some of her memories inside, cause her gems is still the same gems her power didn't change, her gem goes for all her form before reforming because it's the way gems works. Loading everything chronologicaly, but as her forms and memories are still stored, her mind is gone. It may or may not be restored by hack, but we're not here.
The reason that the reguvenator reset his gem to young pink Steven, is that it counts as a factory defualt, the womb acting like a gem's kindergarden. Steven's birth put pink Steven's base code where Pink's base code was, and moved her base code to an inactive subfolder in the same main folder.
@@VanessaCamburao Yeah, but if it got overwritten; why would it show both of her two forms in the 'Change Your Mind' arc of the show without even a glitch as was talked about in the video?
tdgdfhfdgh THIS! You literally expressed so many ideas that I have in the past. I'm pretty sure I've said the exact words "her data is still on there" before. But I totally agree, Gems are 100% USBs/Mini Supercomputers, and her data was just stored away. That is the only way to explain all the visions, as you mentioned, as well as all of Rose's character traits that Steven exhibits. 'Rose's Scabbard' even implies Rose can see things through Steven's eyes, although maybe not in a conscious way for either of them. Thematically she's still gone, because unlike actual computers you can't hack a Gem, at least not that we've seen. So that data is inaccessible. Addressing the rejuvenator plot hole, my headcanon about how Steven's powers work is that Rose becoming Steven was essentially her poofing, and then as he grew she was reforming inside his body, but at a fraction of the speed a normal Gem would because her physical form was intermixing with his organic biology. The reformation was 'complete' shortly before the events of the series, which is why Steven's powers start manifesting after that. This would also explain why he looked a certain age for so long; as soon as the reformation finished, it kind of locked his biology in place. I think baby Steven could call on the power, but it wasn't all there for him to use. How does this explain the rejuvenator issue? I think when it finished reforming, it changed the way the software operates on the gem in order for it to interface with organic biology better. That's why Pink Steven seemingly has little personality, and can't control its powers. So while the appearance of Pink and Rose's silhouette in 'Change Your Mind' show the data is still on there, I don't think it's the default setting anymore; how the gem was when Steven first got his powers is. Uhh...sorry for the long comment 'xD
@@guys-in9vd They never said that. A slash ( / ) literally 95% of the time means _"or",_ so they said "a USB _or_ a mini-supercomputer". It was never stated that they are the same thing.
@@guys-in9vd I've already said it. Nobody says it is. Both a USB flash drive _and_ a computers hard drive can store data, therefore both can be used for the comparison. No one says that a USB can do advanced calculations. I'd work on my reading comprehension skills, if I were you.
Do u ever think when Steven grows old and dies pink could come back? Since he would be dead he wouldn’t be using the gem so I’m guessing she could actually come back
Ohohoho, Steven cant age, if he feels like a child, he turns into one, if he feels old, he turns old, in this case if steven still feels normal he'll stay normal and wont age, to prove this theory, his corruption, he felt like a monster, he turned into onw edit: i wrote this past 12 pm and i was on a pill plesseebew
@@movedaccountscyayalls7119 he CAN age, that's what happens when he feels normal. However, Steven has the power to live as long as the gems, because, like you said, however he feels, that's what he turns into
@@movedaccountscyayalls7119 If he's feeling "normal" then he would age normally he isn't like Lars or Lion where they age extremely slowly to the point they are nearly immortal
I never understood why people hated Pink Diamond/Rose so much. She did horrible things but she had good intentions. She was heavily abused by the other Diamonds, put away when she "misbehaved", put down for things she liked or did. People like freakin' Azula from ATLA even though she's committed terrible crimes, because she was a fourteen year old girl abused and shaped by her family and war. Pink Diamond is a way more sympathetic character
Pink Diamond is not gone. Well, not completely at least. It seems to me that Pink (Diamond) Steven is possibly based on the fact that pink diamonds are very difficult to find. That's probably one thing Rebecca Sugar knows about just a little bit. Convincing 😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯😯?
I've always wanted Rose to still be around somehow. I don't know why I just never wanted her to be gone. I was the tiniest bit disappointed when they said she was gone
pink isn't gone as long as her gem still exist (not shattered). That is why she said "I'll become half of you" "Steven has always been Steven" meaning every choices Steven made was all base on steven's feelings and thoughts. How he react, symphatize, and see the best in everything is part of his personality. It might have resembles rose's personality as other gems pointed out but it was purely part of steven's personality The only reason why pink steven said "she's gone" to white diamond is because Pink was no longer the one in control of the gem. The one who was in control was steven. The form that the gem accepted was the form of steven, That why when White diamond pulled out Steven's gem it form as steven not as Pink Diamond or Rose Quartz Pink existance was nothing but a memory of its past. But it doesn't mean it never existed after Pink lost her PHYSICAL FORM. It shown that Steven was able to dream Pink's memories and suffering as he kept stumbling to places where his mother was once. if pink was entirely gone, Steven wouldn't be able to dream Pink's life as a diamond because those places were never part of Steven's life so there's no way that Steven should dream about those places at all, as if those was HIS own memories Thinking that Pink is still alive doesn't ruined the purpose of the show because she still exist through the existance of her gem. That is where the whole plot of Steven Universe revolve is because of her gem's existance The purpose of the rejuvenator is to RESET a GEM to its original form. You can't hide the fact that steven's gem original form was Pink Diamond so it was meant to reform back as Pink Diamond That is why they ended up creating this kind of THEORY after the rejuvenator accident. Because Steven and Pink are 2 different people that share the same gem. Steven didn't turn back because he's half human and was able to keep his memory but what really happened to his gem half where he can only explain "it feels as if I was back when I was a kid again" also gems are immortal só they can't die unless shattered but the diamonds can fix this
Before Future, I had a dream that Steven had his mother's memories flooding back to him through his dreams. He went back to Homeworld to right every wrong she had ever committed. He had to deal with blind loyalists, angry rebels, and gem citizens while exploring Homeworld. We can dream.
I always say Steven will inevitably die one day and from what we seen in charge your mind the gem will just reform once it’s free. So will Pink come back or will Pink Steven just live forever?
I have a different opinion and that’s partially because of lion and Lars, technically they live forever for whatever reason I don’t know yes they were healed by tears. But it’s a little more complicated than that what I mean to say is his body will be OK plus you gotta look at based on feelings there was an episode where he got older young it was weird.
Not exactly in the way you think 😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒😒. Besides as Steven is part human, Pink Diamond will never be likely to reform on her own. What do you think 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔?
Noo you forgot about the tiny floating whale! That was the first time we heard Rose's voice, and she was asking Steven what he wants. There's literally no way that wasn't her talking to him, especially because there was really no other reason for the whale to have her voice.
The problem is the room and the gem that Steven had, we’re kind of incompatible, as far as processor and data storage, The gem had really really high data storage and the room had really low data storage. If they were both the same or if the room was higher then technically and actually I think this would’ve happened anyways pink diamond would’ve been able to properly help out Stephen throughout his childhood but you know I except for the diaper changes but you get the idea.
I know this video was made prior to Future, but I definitely think the closure Steven NEEDED in his character arc was just... to talk to his mom again. Or to find something of hers, just, something regarding her. A lot of his trauma came from her, and I feel like Future didn’t really highlight that the way I THOUGHT it was going to highlight that. Maybe a scene of Steven watching the video of his mom, one last time. Him talking to his dad about her. Idk... something??? But nope...
This went from "Pink Diamond isn't gone" to "Pink Diamond shouldn't be gone" lol. While I agree with what you're saying about the Rejuvenator, it doesn't change what happened in the movie. He was set back to being a kid again. Personally don't think Steven first activated his power as a baby but rather when Rose's shield first came out thanks to his love of cookie cat ice cream, and that's why the rejuvenator set him back to that point. Even if it did reset his gem to back when he was a baby, you said it yourself when bringing up the idea that the rejuvenator set his gem back to Pink Diamond. He looked incredibly tired from exhausting his powers, like he was about to drop dead, and that it was weird for him to look that way despite his gem only being set back by about 2-3 years. You gotta admit, it _would_ make sense for him to look that way if his gem was set back to when he was a _newborn baby._ Beyond all that though I agree with the idea of Pink Diamond being somewhere in there, but I really don't think it's in the show's thematic interest to ever bring her back. That's just my take though.
So gems, like in a human's "chakras" and layers of mind, also have 12 "dimentions", if not 7 predominantly, accessible ones? Pink Diamond might also be his "alter"?
I'm mad they didnt do this tbh. They say all the time that the gems are their gems. They live in there and are inside. Steven never went inside his. He should be able to talk to her. She said whenever hes happy and such that's her loving him tho it seems they decided to turn her into life juice for his human body. Tho why that means she doesn't exist anymore idk.
Pearls are formed by adding layers upon layers upon layers whenever a clam has a piece of junk stuck in its mouth. Kinda like a sore. Most every other gem that's been used in Steven Universe is literally just an element, or a compound. Diamonds? Carbon, and for the colors you add a bit of other elements getting trapped between the carbon bonding with itself. While I don't remember many other gem compounds, since it's been a while since I seriously studied both gemology and geology. Unless we get "Limestone" or "Sandstone" as a brand new Crystal Gem. We wouldn't see a new gem species that is naturally built in layers. That's actually why the pearl inception works. Because her biggest issue is, for both Volleyball and our Pearl. They repress, shove things deeper and deeper, and out on a facade for their master. That's why when Mega Pearl became a thing it wad beautiful. Because the one stuck in the past, and the one hell bent on making the future happen, could come together and realize "We're both hurt because Pink was a jerk to us in different but similar ways". So while the theory that Steven could ACCESS his mother's file. He wouldn't be able to do that by going inside of his gem. That's just not how a Diamond would work, or even a Quartz for that matter before the reveal that he's a diamond. The theory presented about the room, or other ways to project data, that's probably how they'd be able to do it. The rejuvinator angle could have also worked if Pink Steven wasn't the new factory reset given by the movie. We know this because of the fact that even if the gem tanked the hits. It didn't defuse with Steven.
You serve a fair point but keep in mind pearls are meant to be organized, while pearl was the only character we have seen that is able to use this storage.
9:58 Steven’s gem was affected differently from the other. The other still had their “power” (I guess is what it’s called) but didn’t have any memory of who they use to be. Steven on the other hand still knew his past but he couldn’t control his powers. So no, they did not treat Steven as if affected him differently because it DID affect him differently from the other gems.
"Mirror Gem" counters your second argument, the gem is affected but if it's inside a sort of object or machine (or an organic body), it cannot reform until it is pulled out.
While I like your arguement I actually have one little hiccup The Pearl-ception thing is something unique to Pearl's. They form in layers, layers of lacquer forming on the pearl over time. So, in pearl's case, there actually is a pearl inside a pearl. Each 'form's for Pearl is a new layer. Gems "grow" Pearls form layers
I like your theory. It's very precise and chronological. I really hope for the creators to bring Pink Diamond back. We only see her through memories and steven. That way maybe it can change the whole course of the show entirely. Maybe my theory is that Pink really stuck in Steven but she's just waiting for the whole Diamonds to change themselves to be better kind and only later Pink Diamond can resurface before that pink monster destroys Steven, again.
M'Lady u got urself a new subscriber. I loved ur theory and IDEA!! I haven't thought about that move suggestion. It would've been an even better movie!!!
Maybe the rejuvenator DID reset Steven’s gem back to pink diamond. You said pink could grow up with Steven, she could see how he acted differently than her. Maybe that weird glowing circle moving around on his gem, was pink trying to reform; but Steven’s human half prevented her to. And the reason Steven was soo tired was because Steven’s gem was tiring him out, pink’s gem kept pushing the gem to reform taking a toll on Steven. But when he fused with Greg pink recognized the feeling of fusion and allowed Steven to fuse without knowing it. Pink saw the whole movie through Steven’s gem, so slowly but surely she is gaining her memories back too. The song Disobedient brought pink’s memories of rebelling from the diamonds. And so on and so on. Pink diamond could have come back just for the movie if spinel had taken out Stevens gem before the song change.
My interpretation behind why the rejuvenator doesn’t revert Steven into Pink Diamond is because his gem and Steven are fundamentally different from Pink. One big thing I noticed from the scene when Steven’s gem gets taken by White is that Steven’s gem has a noticeable band surrounding the “girdle” of the diamond. I think that’s supposed to show that, fundamentally, Steven's gem is somewhat different to Pink’s gem, and while deep down it still has Pink’s memories/conscious, it’s not the gem it once was when it belonged to Pink. Also, Steven is a completely different being from Pink. The gems became different people but they were never reborn into a new life-form like Steven, so it would make sense that Steven would revert back to his younger self and not his mother since he’s a totally new being.
The argument with the rejuvenator seems to ignore that the weapon hits the physical form, likely to access the gem data and factory reset it. But that doesn’t work so well for Steven’s organic body. So his gem wasn’t necessarily reset, but more like instead of reformatting the USB, someone dunked it in a glass of water. It’s messed up and doesn’t work right. But everything is there. Surface, Rose, and Pink just like before.
What you said about the room was fascinating, and really made me wonder not about the gems but about the magic they used to make the temple. Was making a space like this precedented on homeworld? Do all the diamonds create rooms imbued with their essence in this way? Just from this realization< I believe that it really WAS Rose he was talking to in there. At the very least she was a fairly intact sliver of Rose's soul [or her spirit or whatever she used to make a terrifying, powerful, non-corporeal will-activated pocket dimension] Also, I enjoyed your rendition of what the movie could have been, but it relies on Steven becoming separated again, so Spinel would have had to pull Pink Diamond out of him. If she had done that, freshly emerged Pink would have been the one standing there. Spinel's plan would have been fully baked if she had just completed that final step. I think his gem was in a very neutral state and it realized it wasn't able to take its intended form, and just took stock of the situation and took Steven on as its form again. We know from the cluster that disoriented gems are still competent enough to choose their own form and understand what the situation calls for. It couldn't bust out on its own after all. Also also, I think all those layers Pearl has are an exception here rather than the rule. Pearls don't come into the world knowing what they are for, someone has to tell them what to do. Just knowing that, when freed of servitude, pearls are easily the most adaptable and functional gems for an ever-changing environment. She was the catalyst of Pink's choice to follow this lead. Pearl is the only gem to significantly and permanently change her face in regeneration besides Pink. Her pilot look is cannon as well as her sharper season 1 face. Her life shaped her in a higher magnitude than any of the other gems. Some things are ingrained about a pearl's form, but I suspect you could describe how you'd like your new pearl to look and act outside of convention and they'd have the capacity to do it.
actually soul and spirit are not totally the same thing Because there is a difference that difference is that our soul is our mind not ourselves but our spirit is ourselves and our conscience is our senses not ourselves
Hi! Here's my theory, Rose Quartz/Pink Diamond can still come back. I believe Steven needs to unlock all his power to be able to obtain it without his mom (Rose/Pink). Steven needs to learn how to use his full power, so that way Rose/Pink can seperate from Steven, and he won't feel vulnerable, like he did when White Diamond removed his gem, because Steven is still part gem, with or without his physical gem. That is why in Future, Steven is going through all these changes. I also believe Steven is taking everything so seriously, not just because of his trauma at a young age (Episode 14 of SUF) but also because Rose/Pink is pushing him to let his full power out, and not waiting for it to come on his own. And the reason she didn't tell Greg, or the other gems, is because she didn't want them to treat Steven differently, and have them always pushing him to unlock his powers for her to come back. And the only reason Rose/Pink knew this would happen is because she is a diamond, and they know everything about gem kind, and since Pink fell in love with Earth, I believe she did some research about it! Thanks for reading my theory! I know this most likely won't happen, but just putting it out there! :)
Wow what you said about pink diamonds character development being in reverse makes so much sense I didnt like her but I think I would have had I seen her go from bratty newly made pink diamond to the rose quartz that have up her physical form to have Steven. She had a reverse redemption arc
Maybe Pink was trying to reform, but it was impossible for her since the gem is stuck in Steven? Anyways, gems work like computer operative systems. Imagine that the Pink Diamond form is Windows 7, all of her memories are stored in files that are easily accessible. Now, when she reformed as Rose, she updated the system to windows 8, but her memories were still easily accessible, she didn't loose them. And now, Steven, imagine him as windows 10. All of his mother's memories are still accessible, but the gem has taken on the form of a human and therefore, works as if the physical form is a human. I think that if Steven was rejuvinated, all files would be deleted except the files of the operating system. AKA, system32 and all the important files are still there, just not the memories. As if the gem was formated. The rejuvination may also just revert the system to windows 7, or Pink, but it's not clear. I'm just theorising, but maybe when his gem was glowing was either it glitching it, because it wants to poof but can't, or that's Pink trying to reform but can't. But, I think that if Steven's human half died with his gem still in his body, the gem will upload his consciousness and memories on the gem itself, and it will reform as Steven. Not an emotionally absent Pink Steven, but the Steven that we all know and love, will reform and become 100% gem. That's just my theories, I'm not sure about them.
I think that the rejuvenator did what it was supposed to do to steven, but not in the way we all thought. We've all been using gem logic on the gem-human hybrid. What i think happened is when rose quartz gave birth to steven, it.. I guess changed the gem. It was no longer roses gem, it was Steven's, and rhus would 'reset' itself as his birth to a clean slate where he could learn all of his own powers. So when steven is being reset, its resetting back to that instance. All of the previous data is still present in the gem feom pink and quartz, but only as memories. Because steven is his own person now, NOT his mom
i agree with most of your points, but i think that when it comes to steven we really can't apply the same rules for rejuvination because of his organic half, even if his gem was reverted back to pink diamond his physical form remains part organic, so he'd still look like steven
If Steven gets hit by the rejuvinater and reforms into pink the ending would be better spinel would apologise and the diamonds would come and take her but it's not really possible.
I adore this theory, and I certainly hold hope for pink/rose still existing in some form... But With the rejuvinator- I don't think you should be looking at it as if Steven is 100% Gem. Because he's not. The whole reason Steven stays "surface" is because of his human half. As long as the gem is within Steven, Pink/Rose cant come out. His body works like a special kind of bubble in a way, or like some kind of code preventing full erasure. No light form or proper visuals of Pink or Rose can surface as long as the gem stays within Steven. But if the rejuvinator were to hit pink Steven alone, then the gem should absolutely reset entirely. And for the Movie things- Pink wouldn't know /anything/ upon rejuvination, Spinel could tell her anything and Pink would listen. Pink wouldn't have any way of showing any character growth since Spinel would just take her right back to her old life. It'd just be right back to Era one.
Something interesting apparently the original story for Stevie universe the movie said by the developers, apparently originally rose quartz, was going to appear in the movie when Steven’s gem was reset but they worried that it would be too dark for the movie
YES! I think the same way. And I think Pink and Steven can both exist. Like Steven did resurrect Lars, and Rose did resurrect Lion. Why cant they just resurrect Steven while he has no gem in fountain or pink essence (Stevens spit or tears). The only reason why they should not do that w/o any experiments is that this plan put Stevens live in danger. MB Pink doesn’t know how to heal when she forms, or fountain and essence won’t work properly if pink diamonds would be rejuvenated. But it is solvable, they just want Pink dead i guess. . .
I wish in the Steven Universe Future finale while Steven was corrupted he got a moment to finally confront his mother within his inner mind like when Naruto met his father Minato. The way it should have happened is Steven's mind is so broken that it was enough to awaken Pink Diamond's consciousness within his gem and it would finally be his mother's turn to help him she owed him that much.
i think that if spinel took out stevens gem and then hit it with the rejuvenator then pink would be able to come back, when stevenlifts up his shirt and his gem glows pink a few times that's pink trying to reform but it can't due to the fact it's trapped inside steven
It makes me wonder something, when jasper was “training” Steven to become stronger if that was pink diamond taking control of his body at the end of there fight not only was his body entirely glowing pink but his pupils were pink diamond shapes instead of the regular circular pupil shape 🤔
I feel like he could fuse with Greg cause of his human half, his memories , and pink diamond’s fascination with everything new, even thought she might not remember Greg, she would still wanna fuse. AND his fusion is way less put together than Stevonnie
i know it been 4 years about this but if you think that when Steven gat hit by rejuvenator i think rose returned to her old self pink diamond so whan old pink saw herself inside Steve she tried to get out and returns back but she cannot return because of Steven i think the idea of pink diamond return back and try fix everything she ruined is cool i love pink diamond even when she had many haters but i still love her bro i still hope she return and see her but since the show has ended this hope is gone 😢
bismuth says the rejuvenator resets gems to how they were "made" i don't think it works the same way on diamond because we don't know their origin and they probably weren't made
Everything about being a gem is horrifying, you literally get locked away when you get poofed and updated, trapped in purgatory. Does this mean that when a gem is poofed they are permanently dead in a way and a new updated version of them takes their place like a clone?
My theory was/is that when Steven was hit by the Rejuvenator, it did reset his gem back to Pink Diamond. However, we don't see the effects until SU Future. Pink's Destructive Powers from her earliest form are now literally shining through Steven and the longer it goes, the more corrupted Steven gets. Edit: Wow, thanks for giving this comment over 4k likes!
I think when steven was hit by the Rejuvenator, it did reset his gem back to Pink Diamond. The reason she didn't come, was because Stevens human half made it impossible. That's why his gem was glowing pink. Pink Diamond was trying to form, but couldn't.
I agree with you that Rose is WAY to demonized by the fanbase. Her character development is fascinating and the implications of Steven's feelings about her being reflective of her own feelings about herself are wild.
If the show had revealed everything about PD and then showed how she changed and made up for her mistakes to make the show wrap back around to why the crystal gems loved her it would have been wonderful
That’s why It always bugged me how they revealed her character development backwards. Lots of people will think that In the end Rose was just a shitty person, and yet they Don’t call out Garnet,amethyst and pearl for the way they raised steven, Or how the diamonds were so easily forgiven despite the fact it’s because of their abuse that pink faked her own shattering, The irony is that in the end, Rose was the most human out of them all, She made mistakes and learned from them, just like all of us.
She's demonized cause we see her character development in reverse. Its just easier to hate her cause we see her villian like tendencies last which makes it more fresh.
My theory: Steven has always _almost_ suffered PTSD and Depression due to his "adventures", but because of Rose always _loving_ him, those mental disorders were never really a problem. But when Spinel rejuvenated Steven, Rose stopped _loving_ Steven because she was probably inexistant at that point, and now the mental disorders Pink held back are now rushing in Steven's mind. On a sidenote, people with depression intentionally reject the love of their loved ones, but due to Pink being subconsciously attached to Steven's mind, he couldn't reject her affection so thats neat.
You make a very good point. However, the movie showed every gem being able to "overcome" rejuvenation and regain their memories. I assume that when Steven regained his powers, it was implied that his gem returned to the way it was at the beginning of the movie. Thus, Rose's "memories" and love for her son would've been reestablished as well. None of the gems suffered lasting effects from rejuvenation, so there's no reason to think that Steven's gem would, either.
By that logic, pink forgot everything and when Steven was dying in the movie, it was Pink trying to get out. Maybe she gave up or remembered everything in the end and in future, her powers wanted her back.
when he gets hit, his gem is glowing a little bit, and he said his gem tried to poof but his human body kept it from doing so. when a gem poofs, it later reforms, so had he poofed, he wouldve gone back to pink, but steven is also human, and now steven in recent episodes has pink's emotions actions and powers like she first did, the emotional outbursts and feeling like she cant do anything, compared to the others around her (as seen when she had her temper tantrum at yellow when asking for a colony too, and well steven now in SUF showing the exact same behavior), etc, so my theory is, his gem DID in fact go back, but because theres his body, pink is STUCK.
Yeah, as if Pink Diamond couldn't go through re-forming into Rose Quartz again, and go through giving birth to and 'becoming' Steven. When it was supposed to shut off, it was seen glimmering and producing electric sound. That's because like you said, it was stuck with the fleshy form of a human body, and so couldn't poof. The Steven was able to go back through his whole life, and get his abilities back; the Pink part was not able to experience Pink's decisions that SHE'D made throughout her life.
*Pink is fucking gone, Rebecca herself stated that Steven has always been just Steven. Steven’s powers get restored in the movie not reset. Thinking that Rose is still alive is erasing the ENTIRE purpose of the show!*
@@RitsuSakuma69 pink isn't gone as long as her gem still exist (not shattered). That is why she said "I'll become half of you" "Steven has always been Steven" meaning every choices Steven made was all base on steven's feelings and thoughts. How he react, symphatize, and see the best in everything is part of his personality. It might have resembles rose's personality as other gems pointed out but it was purely part of steven's personality. The only reason why pink steven said "She's gone" to white diamond is because Pink was no longer the one in control of the gem. The one who was in control was steven. The form that the gem accepted was the form of Steven, that is why when White diamond pulled out Steven's gem it form as Steven not as Pink Diamond or Rose Quartz. Pink existance was nothing but a memory of its past. But it doesn't mean it never existed after Pink lost her PHYSICAL FORM. It shown that Steven was able to dream Pink's memories and suffering as he kept stumbling to places where his mother was once. If pink was entirely gone, Steven wouldn't be able to dream about Pink's life as a diamond. Because those places were never part of Steven's life so there's no way that Steven should dream about those places at all, as if those was HIS own memories. Thinking that Pink is still alive doesn't ruined the purpose of the show because she still exist through the existance of her gem. That is where the whole plot of Steven Universe revolve is because of her gem's existance. The purpose of the Rejuvenator is to RESET a GEM to its original form. You can't hide the fact that Steven's gem original form was Pink Diamond so it was meant to reform back as Pink Diamond. That is why they ended up creating this kind of THEORY after the rejuvenator accident. Because Steven and Pink are 2 different people that share the same gem. Steven didn't turn back because he's half human and was able to keep his memory but what really happened to his gem's half where he can only explain "it feels as if I was back when I was a kid again"
@@RitsuSakuma69Beating a dead horse I know but when Steven refuses with his other half in Change Your Mind, if you listen closely, you can hear his mother laughing along with steven. That was definitely Pink. She isn't Steven, obviously but she IS his gem half, because that was literally her gem, and I believe the, "SHE'S GONE!" line was Pink's way of saying, "Stop trying to bring me back, this gem belong to Steven now and you need to treat him as his own person." Steven is half human, half gem in the sense that his physical body is human, but the gem is what holds him together and basically allow him to leave, hence why he was so weak and fragile when his gem was removed. It's kind of like his battery. When Rose said they couldn't both exist, she meant that Steven wouldn't be able to survive without the help of the gem to keep him alive. So if his gem were removed, even through Rose would be able to reform, steven wouldn't be able to last. The truth is, once Steven dies and his human half is gone, all that's left will be the gem, and Rose would be able to come back. Maybe you can argue that the gem is powerful enough to keep him alive despite his human flaws, so he'd be technically immortal. But regardless, even through Steven is NOT his mother, she IS a part of him, and an important part at that.
The whole "she's gone" line is pretty much "I am Steven not pink diamond " Rose said in the message that she will always be a part of him but she isn't him
I'm glad I'm not the only one mad at how the Diamonds were redeemed when they have done way worse then Pink Diamond. It was such bullshit. Still love the show though
@Purple Citrine I still want to know why the gems are expanding their control, and what their origin story is. Were the Diamonds made to do something specific? Are they fighting the Sneeple? I wonder if Pink was supposed to be Red Diamond and if she is an off-color.
While the diamonds abusing pink diamond does explain pink diamonds behavior, it does not justify it. Although, I do agree, the diamonds should get way more backlash for the way they treated Pink
but imagine if steven did take a violent approach and did not try to "redeem" them. if they had been poofed, or even shattered, it would come with major repercussions from homeworld itself. not all the gems would just listen to them being free and to not attack. it would've just started a new war, with not just pink being shattered but the whole diamond authority
I have nothing against your theory but I feel the need to clarify something. Pearl having “layers” is actually a reference to how real pearls are created, in layers. This could very well be a pearl specific gem ability. We can’t assume every gem is able to do this. Nothing wrong with the rest of the with the theory but there are some holes...
Exactly. Pearls are made by layering a coating repeatedly on an irritant inside an oyster. Only sandstone and rocks made by sandstone being compressed are similar in geology terms, I believe. Most gems are formed without a layering process, and are solid throughout. The earlier forms showing on reformation is a great visual, and probably reflective of old data and update info, but we have not been shown that other gems can access inner layers of themselves. I think Larimar is the only gem besides Pearl shown to pull a non-weapon item out of her gem, and that was very recently during Ruby's scouting lesson. I totally could be wrong there, but it stood out to me as I don't recall other gems doing the same thing. Pearls are made to carry stuff, right?
You are correct but we see the that in the movie the different forms of each gem (layers) are retained in the gem but maybe not as complex as pearls layers
I see what you mean, but we can’t assume that it is an ability that only pearls have because they never explicitly say it. I like the idea of that being a reference to how real pearls are made, but no one in the show (or the creators) says whether it is or isn’t, so it’s not really fair to make that assumption. Also, if it were an ability only for pearls the rejuvenator wouldn’t make a lot of sense on any other gem besides a pearl. If other gems didn’t have “layers”, then there would be no initial layer for them to start back at.
@@aloratab9160 "I see what you mean, but we can’t assume that it is an ability that only pearls have because they never explicitly say it" The exact opposite is true so why is it okay to assume one way and not the other? As for the Rejuvenator, all Gems are created with programming that tells them what they can do, there's no "initial layer" the Rejuvenator is more like a Factory Reset.
Even back in season 1 when the room first glitched, the small pink floating whale asks Steaven "What do you want Steven?" when he's falling in distress, IN HER VOICE! It's obvious she has some control over her room
Maybe it's happening! Steven's body is holding Pink Diamond to reform, that's why his bones are cracking, and he is getting bigger, and have a lot of powers out of control. I think this series finale, is going to have a GIANT twist! I'm sure about that
someone said something about the rejuvenater making rose go back to pink and that steven's outbursts and diamond powers are a result of not just his ptsd and trauma but also of pink hating the diamonds
My theory is that when a gem is first born she needs to form her body first and then her feelings, personality, etc. The gem needs time to form, but when Steven was born, Pink's gem didn't have the time to reset and be Steven fully so all the series Steven's gem was fucked up because of that. However, when White pulls his gem out, his gem now has the time to fully form into its new identity, (Pink Steven) so when the gem fuses with Steven again, Steven now has full acces to all his powers, including Pink's tantrums and the TV signal manipulation that we saw in Future. And the movie rejuvenator problem is easy to answer, its possible that Steven's gem was reverted to his baby state, but human Steven didn't because the weapon doesn't work on humans, so when human Steven try to use his powers while the gem was in a very early state, made Steven's body act that way because he was draining the few energy the gem had
I just want pink back to get a redemption on the reverse redemption we already had. Her character was already developed, yet they ruined it by making her into a scapegoat. It’s completely stupid that she became the scapegoat and villainized for her past mistakes.
It makes me sad he completely disowned his mom, even as rose quartz, he still doesnt want to acknowledge she exists. Imagine pink just seeing that within his gem
i mean she was probably prepared that steven would learn about her mistakes one way or another--she left bismuth in lion with the tape for steven after all. her choices left steven with many unforeseen consequences, i'm sure she would be okay with his feelings towards her as long as he loved himself c:
I hope that at one point in the series Steven returns to the room, and since steven’s gem seems to have some autonomy over the room, rose will appear and they’ll have a meaningful conversation. Alternatively, maybe when Steven gets corrupted only the gem will be corrupt, and gem-less human Steven will have to deal with it. Then, after steven’s gem half is uncorrupted, there’ll be a confrontation there.
To be honest, I doubt that Steven will die. Maybe when he get's older he will connect to his youthful mind again and stay forever a certain age by choice? And going by the theory in the video, pink and pink Steven would still be in the gem equally. It would probably get complicated. Just my thoughts at least but you never know.
Steven literally sees Pink’s memories when he’s in places of great emotional importance to her (the Moon Base, Jungle Moon, her palace). This could not happen if Rose wasn’t in there in some form or another.
Steven isn't an embodiment of light.... He's literally organic. He's literally human. Pink can't pop out of her gem like "Ight, I'm back!"... (Also, Pink's redemption was Rise Quartz, this show is about mostly love, forgiveness, and moving on.)
My personal theory on how the rejuvenator affected Steven. It did reset his gem to Pink Diamond, but it's also currently embedded inside an organic body. A gem's body is made of light(yet some how solid). Steven's gem already has a body and doesn't need to create it's own. However, this body has a consciousness that is not within the gem, so the gem has no control. So, essentially, Pink Diamond is restored, but not her form because there's already a form that's not going away. The other gems all reform, but Pink Diamond can't. Basically, Steven's gem was reverted back to Pink Diamond, but she can't reform like the others because there's already a body(Steven). I hope this made sense.
Couldn't pink diamond come back and giving Steven Universe that life-giving back mutation the same that lion and Lars has that's how they should perfectly end the story
Oh my God, I agree with literally everything you said. People call me crazy when I say that Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz is my favorite character, because the entire fandom and even the crewniverse themselves demonize her. But she's by far the most interesting and important character in the show. I unfortunatelly don't think they'll bring her justice, as the show is way too close to its end, but I really, REALLY hope that in the end they'll bring her up and stop making her the villain that she isn't.
