Pioneer 1000 suspension Analysis Needs more up-travel! OEM Fox shocks are no better :( 

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Another great video bud thanks for all the information you're really helpful

elka can make you custom shocks based off the extended and compressed lengths measured for max travel. radflo can do the same with 2.0 coilovers

Also. We need to see a mud puppy gator tail

As a Pioneer prospect, to hear “Honda went cheap on the shocks” is a concern for me. I am not a mechanic- I buy Honda and Toyota products because I believe and know from experience they have been higher quality in parts, fit, finish, and mnfr tolerances. What I’ve heard twice now in the 2 vids by you, is that I need to reconsider my purchase decision. You sound like you know from where you speak. Do you have an axe to grind, know better than Honda Pioneer engineers. Or in fact the quantity won’t be what I expect from Honda? Thanks, Tom in St. Louis

The jack the extension on it where you get it

Have you considered General XP or Maverick/Commander shocks considering the Rmax shock backorder? They have roughly 14-15" of travel on their 64" wide machines. I am on the verge of dumping my Pioneer 1000 because I can't drive over 25 mph on the trails without blowing through the suspension. If what you are doing ends up working..........I'd be extremely excited.

The R-max is quite a bit wider isn’t it. 67” ? Obviously that will affect full travel

Whats the most budget friendly way to increase ride quality for bumpy trails?

Whatever came of the R-Max shock swap?

Of the 8.5” of front travel how much of it is down travel?

I mean you could say fuck the rmax shocks and get long shocks or coilovers and mount them through the hood and have all the up/down travel you want. If you put the rmax shocks on the front through the hood you won’t ever be able to reach full down travel. We have some rzr fox shocks I might put on our p1k to just see

Can t wait to see this lol

Also, wtf were you riding at the end of the video haha

“Not a ton of travel” Not as much as competitive model. Is that “Honda cheaped out” to you?