Pioneer 500 Long Travel Kit Install

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This is not a step by step install as that vid would be several hours long...lol. This does show you however, how easy Joe Kocienski's long travel kit is to install.
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@prrevo4884 4 года назад

What a great family, and you help us much with your videos. Thank you

@craigeldridge2695 3 года назад

Just finished the rear install. 16" of ground clearance!

@johnr4032 4 года назад

I was wondering if you or your subscribers have a very noisy either rear end or transmission? My 2016 seems very noisy especially when running with light or no load in the higher gears. Almost sounds like the thing is going to come apart.. When it was new I took it back to the dealer several times and he just says this is normal for the 500??? Do you know if this is typical noise (not response from a screwed up dealer) or not?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

It is typical rear end noise. The gears are square cut and not helical cut. Square cut are stronger but also make a LOT more noise. Switch to a 75-140 oil and it will quite them down pretty good

@farmertylerranch4399 5 лет назад

Awesome!!

@jamesswick7534 3 года назад

I'm from WV and we call the adjustable wrench a hillbilly socket set.

@davidthompson312 2 года назад

I have a 2021 Honda pioneer 520 changing out front a arms with super ATV forward a arms wondering if you have all the torque specs?

@littlerebels7842 2 года назад

I cant find where you buy it

@jippys1 3 года назад

I have a question for you: how did you wire that led light to that switch that you have on there because I am going to do the same thing to mine but don't know how to do it. Maybe you can do a video on it. Thanks

@denverdaniel114 4 года назад

How much will it cost for kit and tires and wheels

@denverdaniel114 4 года назад

How can I get the same kit and tires and wheels

@alexst.pierre9482 2 года назад

Where do I find the long travel kit? Google is no help

@AppalachianMountainRiders 2 года назад

Facebook is the only way to get a hold of Joe

@clintonfinley8765 2 года назад

I have a question? Were did u get the long travel kit for ur p500. Does it fit on the p520. Have u been able to review the p520.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 2 года назад

The long travel should fit on the 520. You’ll need to get a hold of Joe Kocienski on Facebook to order and he would know if it’ll fit for sure. I have yet to even see a 520 at any of my local dealers...lol. Honda as suppose to send me a demo to test and review but then covid hit and machine availability when way down so I don’t know if I’ll ever get a demo or not.

@sunnytatum4465 5 лет назад

What would it cost to set up my Pioneer 500 to a "Mighty Mouse"

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

Joe now offers the kit in two versions. One with axles for $1700 shipped and one without axles for $1100 ship and you get whatever axles you want. (the kit will work with any pioneer 700 axles just keep in mind you have to switch out the diff cup on he front right so you may have to buy two axles to run a heavier duty one as you’ll need a heavier duty diff cup to match) You also need to upgrade your shocks to run the kit too. You can get Walker Evans with a discount by mentioning my channel for right around 1k. The rest of the cost would depend on what tires and rims you want to run.

@silverback802 3 года назад

Hi Jason, I have a 2021 Pioneer 520. I am 73 yrs old and am looking to get a softer ( less bouncy ) ride. Will walker Evans shocks alone do it or do I also need the long travel kit. I do not drive very fast normally. If this can be accomplished with shocks alone can you recommend some? If I need Joe's long travel kit too let me know. I should mention I use 26 in. Zilla tires on stock rims. Jason if I could get a good ( reasonable ) ride with shocks alone that would be great as I like the 50in. There must be a good set of front and rear shocks that would greatly improve the ride isn't there. If so let me know what they are.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

While the ride with shocks and the long travel is amazing, Walker Evan shocks alone give you a far cushier ride. Most, including myself, describe it as a night and day difference and it truly is. One thing to consider is if you go with the long travel you still have to upgrade shocks so to try just shocks first you won’t be out anything to upgrade to the long travel later if needed.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

Also check out 814 shocks as they are set up a bit softer than even the walkers and are more suited for slower paced trail riding with their Trail series shocks.

@silverback802 3 года назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders thank you, Jason. It sounds like the 814 shocks are what I am looking for. Thanks for your input.

@3006USMC 5 лет назад

After watching this two times I can officially say my wife is gonna not like me.... Awesome vid JASON.... Ill start saving now. And it comes with grease able zero fittings. And the price comes with axles....totally cool. Now how to afford the 32” blackwaters?

@3006USMC 5 лет назад

Zerk fittings

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

Just make sure to warn me if your wife comes after me!😂

@prrevo4884 4 года назад

Im ordering a kit in january 2020 and I have 25 inch tires and WE front shocks (175lb) and elka stage 3 rear shocks (225lb) ,am I hearing you correct that the spring rates will not work out if I order the long travel kit? Thank you like always for your help to us that know less than you!!!!

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Yeah, you need much heavier springs or the suspension will sag bad, especially in the rear. Need 225 in the front (which your rear elka springs may fit which would save you there) and a whopping 600lb spring for the rear. Walker Evans now have a spring package for the long travel but since you all ready have Walker’s on the front you can just tell them you need only the springs. Not sure what you could get for your rear Elka’s but I bet the springs from Walker Evans would fit too.

@prrevo4884 4 года назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders forgive me but thats 600 lb springs on each rear shock. Im leaving them stock length shocks. Just adding the long travel kit. Thank you

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Yep 600lb on each side

@northadventuressouth 5 лет назад

You know, I have to agree with 3006USMC, oorah. 1700 bucks, plus shocks.... got me thinking. Upgrade lil red, or buy a P1K5 or an X4. I know you kinda did a quick video on why you traded your P1K for the X4, but Id like to know $ for $ which one would you rather have of the 3--P5 w/ long travel and WE, P1K5, or X4? My kids have a RZR170 for now, they follow behind. But 4 ppl sure would be nice if we had/want to. Like to see a review X4 vs.... Mighty Mouse is awesome BTW.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

Im planning my one year review of the X4 now so I’ll make sure to give some detailed thoughts on how I thinks it stacks up to the rest and if I’m still happy with my decision to sell the P1k5 for it or if I regret it. Great ideas North Adventure South!

@FloridaKeysPirate 4 года назад

Just bought a new leftover 2018 P5 . I want bigger wheels , tires and as much ground clearance as I can get without breaking the bank for portals. But , I also need to stay below 55" wide. What'd be my best bet ? Just a small lift kit with new wheels and tires and stick with the stock A-arms ? Thanks

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Hank Slaght probably. If you do the frame mod (cutting the square end of the frame that sticks into the front wheel wells at an angle for more clearance) you can fit most 30” tires. Depending then on the backspacing of your wheels I’d ad at least 1.5”/2” wheel spacers for stability and the slightly wider wheel base will help soften the ride a touch too. If you don’t want to do the frame mode you can run 27” and some 28” tires without any mods. AND LOOSE THE REAR SWAY BAR....you’ll thank me...lol. You should end up with a machine around 53”-54” and you’ll gain a good several inches of ground clearance.

@FloridaKeysPirate 4 года назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders Sounds good , Thanks !

@garyrose1300 4 года назад

I have contacted Joe about the kit and told him I wanted to use my stock wheels and 26x8 & 26x10 tires. He said I would need to use a 1 " .spacer. Will the P500 still fit in my Dodge. Also he said I could not use my stock shocks. What do you suggest without breaking the bank. What shocks and springs.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Well mine just fits in the back of my 10’ Ram 2500 but just barely. There is exactly 60” between the bedsides of the truck and with my Walker Evans rims that are a 5+2 offset I am right at 59 3/4” in the rear. Front is about 58”. The reason he says you need spacers is the stock 12” rims will rub the a arms without spacers. 5+2 rims will cause the rims to stick out around 1”-1.5” wider (this is just a rough average and will vary by machine)than stock so it’ll be a close fit with stock rims and the spacers. You can get away with the stock shocks on the front but I don’t recommend it. However the rear stocks are a no go. Shock brand doesn’t matter( though you know I’m partial to Walker Evans) as much as the spring weight. You’ll need at least a 575lb spring in the rear to keep it from sagging with all the added leverage.

@garyrose1300 4 года назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders I'm sorry for being a pest Jason. I am very mechanical but I don't know and cannot find the answers to these Q's on the web. Here is what I want, you tell me how to get there. I am a rider that rides on gravel back roads, no mud and a not a real challenge. Just real rocky. I am a rider like you characterized in the Walker shock test that only needs the font shocks {if I want more comfort...I don't , just height] You said in the beginning of the video that EOM shocks can be used. Is that still correct? Wheel Q's I can't find the width of the EOM wheels. Are the front and back 7"? One site said the back was already 5+2 offset. I just can't be putting more money into this if it is not needed for what I want it to do. I have new 26x8x12 26x10x12 tires [keeping]. Please tell me the size of wheels I need front and back using my tires. Of course this all won't matter if I have to change shocks. Stay safe

@keithh4282 3 года назад

Jason real nice work and setup. Got to get your shop cleaned up seeing all of these parts on a dirty floor makes me cringe.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

I have a brand new garage I just finished I work in now! It small but a big upgrade to the carport...lol. Check out some more recent videos

@jackdipper7686 3 года назад

How is the ride now?

@stattonshriver954 2 года назад

The cost of this stuff?

@mikelewallen5917 2 года назад

Price

@jamessoutherland6179 3 года назад

About to pull the trigger on a p5 , is there a link to purchase the long travel kit?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

No there isn’t. He doesn’t have a website or anything set up. Just look up Joe Kocienski on Facebook and messaging him is the only way to order one at the moment.

@rickhorn7471 3 года назад

wher can some purchase this kit?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

Hit up Joe Kocienski on Facebook. He’s the man That makes the kit.

@chuckalbright708 4 года назад

How much was the kit?

@Hillbillysniper 4 года назад

Any complains yet with the larger tires? and about how much did the suspension kit cost you ?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

No complaints! Yes I lost some top end but the P5 isn’t a speed demon to begin with...lol. I will probably end up doing a gear reduction at some point but it’s not an immediate need. Mighty Mouse is turning them fine! One thing to keep in mind however is the 15/16 model years had lower gearing than the 17 and up models. The entire kit like you see in the vid runs $1600 shipped.

@rayg3074 4 года назад

upgrade looking good..... and works... minor adj yet the rear springs... hummmm

@joshuathompson4295 3 года назад

how do i find this kit wanting to do mine

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

Searching for Joe Kocienski on Facebook and sending him a message is the best way to get him.

@h20offroad27 5 лет назад

Couldnt you put the hub off a p500 that he made the kit for and put it on yours

@Jak-uc5hg 5 лет назад

spend the money on a new hub or just wait the few days for me to make the adjustments lol

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

If Joe can get narrowed down when the change took place it won’t be hard for him to make the lower arms the right size. Be cheaper that way too!

@stephencostello1483 5 лет назад

How those Invisalign’s doing you ? Still chewing plastic ? By the way your shows are very straightforward . Thanks .

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

Almost done! I can’t believe how much they’ve moved and straightened my teeth. Totally worth the 6 teeth I had to have pulled to make room....and I’m not being sarcastic😂 Wish I would have done them sooner!

@craigeldridge2695 3 года назад

I'm waiting on Joe's LT kit to arrive. Any new thoughts on the install before I proceed?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

Nope. Straight forward and an easy bolt on! But you’ll get his Gen 2 arched arms that are fully adjustable which is awesome! I’m so jealous...😂😂😂

@craigeldridge2695 3 года назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders Not being a mechanical engineer, can you explain the benefit of the arched arms? Thanks.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 3 года назад

Just gives you more usable ground clearance as you have a wider “open” area that allows you to pass over wider objects without hitting.

@branchrun1469 5 лет назад

Does it ride better than a stock pioneer 1000?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

Yes it does. It rides better than my Pioneer 1000-5 did with the Walker Evans shocks!

@nestorgarcia259 4 года назад

is there a link to contact Joe Kocienski to order a kit?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Not yet. He’s working on a web site but doesn’t have it up yet. The only way to get a hold of him is on hondasxs.com as Jak’s motorsports or on Facebook. He’s an admin in the pioneer 500 builders group.

@tedmurray5245 4 года назад

What is the new overall tire width?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

With no spacers I’m just a hair under 60” with the offset the rims I’m running has.

@jssouthlaadventures564 4 года назад

How to contact the guy who builds the kit?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

He’s working on getting a website up and running. Shouldn’t be long now. In the meantime if your on Facebook look up Joe Kocienski and message him to order.

@milkman69x 4 года назад

Very cool man. How wide is the machine now?

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Around 64” with the spacers and right at 60” without the spacers

@milkman69x 4 года назад

Thanks man

@mattunknown7070 5 лет назад

Heard you say your from central pa. What part. I live outside of Patton

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

You’re right near Rock Run then! Been there a couple times and enjoy the trails there. I’m about 40min from Patton. Towards Clearfield.

@mattunknown7070 5 лет назад

AppalachianMountainRiders haven’t been to rock run yet. Tried one time pulled up and they were closed. But am looking forward to it now that I have a son once he gets big enough

@prrevo4884 4 года назад

Hey J, I uploaded a (Honda pioneer 500 PRP seat, Elka 3, Walker Evans, 1.5 spacer) video. Just in case you ever want to know how a teryx ez in seat fits inside, it’s my first video and I wish I had a video of this stuff before I installed it as it was trial and error. Also have a home made throttle max. Thanks and I’m looking to extend the arms one day if we make it through the zombie carona end times. Thanks if you want to check it out.

@estisef5525 5 лет назад

Who dat behind you? Then beside you? Then in front of you? Lol!!!!

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

My father in law...lol.

@estisef5525 5 лет назад

How about pioneer 700 kit?

@Jak-uc5hg 5 лет назад

i dont make anything for the 700

@r6realtor 4 года назад

@@Jak-uc5hg what an awesome kit, great job!! makes the p5 look sweet! will you be able to make one that will accommodate stock shocks so you don't have to buy aftermarket ones? also will there be a time that you might be able send that front passenger axle with kit so that it's plug and play or will we always have to switch it out from the stock one?

@Jak-uc5hg 4 года назад

@@r6realtor you can use your stock shocks but will need much much higher spring rate springs and with the axles you can always send me yours and i can swap the cups out for you. having a custom made axle would sky rocked the price because no company will make a bulk of these because there is pretty much no demands

@r6realtor 4 года назад

@@Jak-uc5hg ah, got ya on the axles. I see on the shocks probably just look into the walker Evans shocks if i go this route.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 4 года назад

Walker Evans now offers a Long Travel spring package for use with Joe’s kit that will come with the springs I found to work best with the kit!

@northadventuressouth 5 лет назад

Jason, get you a tripod bro. $20 bones on Amazon.

@AppalachianMountainRiders 5 лет назад

LOL...I have 3 of them. It’s hard to get in to show what I’m doing when a camera is mounted on a tripod though. It probably would help keep people from getting motion sickness if I used them more often😂

@northadventuressouth 5 лет назад

@@AppalachianMountainRiders lol! no hate there! i know how it is....