Hi Guy,s my first award was for 5 years that was back in feb 2017 , I got my pip renewed two days ago for 4 years no issues , Take care and keep fighting .
@@Theyellowchild Hi , i didin,t wait long as my payments continued as normal , this is my year of renewal still waiting on an Assesment , it was due in march this year, take care .
Thanks for sharing such sensitive details for documentation and education. Hope things are better. Just noticed though that you said a few times that you lack motivation in some tasks. I dont think you meant that you actually lack motivation but instead meant that your condition drains you. And the thought of the difficulty of the task causes you anxiety. It's just that as soon as you say you lack motivation it means to them that you could do it but your just lacking the motivation to do the task. You do back it up with your symptoms but they will note the fact that your saying you lack motivation. So really it's that you really want to do the task but it's your condition that affects your ability to do the task, that's what pip award is for. Sounds like you really could do with the award so hope you win appeal/future application. Good look mate.
Disgusting that she’s trying to catch him out so much! I am waiting for an assessment and l plan on asking then to record it AND recording it myself as l have heard they manage to “misplace” the recording. Don’t trust them an inch, they are there to do all they can to prevent you getting pip.
Evie, they're liars. Me and my sister suffered years of abuse as kids and the very system meant to protect us as kids, left us to rot. Now this system wants us to rot
In these assessments there is a points scoring system for the assessment that you can find on the DWP page. The problem with these assessments is that they will ask you questions and note what you CAN do and focus on that rather than on what you can't do.
I have autism spectrum condition and dyslexia and dyspraxia and have hightened sensitivity issues, high levels of anxiety and depression which is like a yo yo affect day in and day out, on anti depressants and get slight paranoia as part of my autism, when I first applied for pip..I went to my interview, took my friend at the time as a witness, I told the assessor, who was a paramedic assessing me, all the difficulties I had with all the aspects on what I stated on my application form..I got turned down first time and the report was a out right lie..of course I was fumming..so did a mandatory reconsiliation..still said no as I thought..but followed process..so requested an appeal..dwp tried to stop it going to an appeal court..there response was 'autism does not mean you can have difficulty'..perserverience was all I thought to keep going..so pushed to get to appeal court, after 1 year and four months I got to an appeal court..first time in the court was triggered baddly by the disrespect of one of the panel..which resulted in a meltdown..so they reajurned for a second appeal where you get a different set of people, so I prepared a statement of how I am affected..I cattorized it under the sections on the pip form and lucky I made a copy of my application..so I made sure I was prepared, I won my appeal for 3 and half years..then had to reapply..I made a copy of my application again so I had it as a reference point..this all happened in lockdown time..they where going to do a phone assessment..I got hold of Bristol autism services..they wrote to them and basically insisted that due to levels of anxiety a paper based assessment needs to happen and that basically they pointed out that this is the appropriate action in line with the Equality Act 2010..so I got a paper base assessment..got awarded by DWP my pip..I only have to do a review in ten years time now..but every communication I have of dwp I have a case file ready in case and keep my award letters and copies of my application so nothing goes over looked at all
It's so stressful. The government is keen to take your money when you are fit and well, not so happy to give your money back when you are unwell and need it back!
Millions go missing every year. Yet nobody questions that. My local council had tonnes of money go missing, they give alot to Devon and Cornwall when it's meant for us. Yet people think all the money is going on benefits. Benefits are not even a drop in the total tax expenditure
I have had a similar experience myself (And someone I know) 0 points in both cases. I now have a pocket recorder just in case I have to have another assessment. I have been saying for years about this but most people look at me as if I am exaggerating or making it up. This is really happening and has been for a long time now, appeals are essential just to correct this DWP sponsored dishonesty. It is not OK to take money from ill people by any means possible because we are an easy target.
I have my pip assessment in 3 weeks, I have severe anxiety which leads to severe stomach pain and severe back pain usually a few times a day, which means doing things like cooking and leaving the house are difficult most days. Plus I have chornic fatigue syndrome and a long term sore and inflammed throat and can hardly speak most days. After listening to this I dont hold out much hope. The nurse sounds like a cold person. Also out of the blue I am being assessed for my fitness for work, to claim my basic UC of £70 a week, most days I cant get out of bed. My only tiny bit of comfort is Im about to turn 55 and can receive my private pension at 55 with a 18% reduction for taking it early, and its just enough to pay the bills and just paid off my mortgage. If I am found fit for work. There is no way I can work, it takes 3 hours to get out of bed. The whole thing is cruel, and I worry about others who dont have their own small safety net, because DWP safety net is full of holes.
@@SpicyJourneys They post poned my court date. Saying i need a whole afternoon, not just one hour, as my throat problems are very complicated, e.g. unusual problems, throat damage from screaming from ptsd/severe pain. Thank you for asking. Longer session i suppose good.
@@SpicyJourneys Yes. I got 4 points for my throat issue - saying I need support to communicate complex verbal info (I can only speak for about 1 minute before my throat throbbs and swells) I have appealed saying i deserve 8 points because i also need support to communicate basic verbal info, or 4 more points for social support (you need to be able to speak for social interactions which I can hardly do (or 4 more points for help in kitchen due to ptsd). Yes at the reconsideration they still just gave me 4 points, not 8 (even though I said I can only speak 3 minutes a week, 3 x 1 minute) and the rest of the time im waiting for the throbbing and swelling to go down. So I got my court date tibunal finally in Nov 23. But they post poned it saying I need a whole afternoon at court, not just one hour, as my throat issue is unusual. So STILL waiting for Tribunal, even though this post is over 1 year old.
Such an intimidating assessment,so many unnecessary questions asked.I didn't have to answer this many questions in my pip assessment, it only took about 20 minutes.This assessment was well over the top,so many questions to try and catch people out.I would of been extremely nervous also doing this assessment.The guy did very well.
So far, the assessor is soooo different from the person that assessed me. Professional, nice, not pressured or rushed or rude or impatient. A kindly voice. She also gave her credentials at the beginning. Reassuring. Not brusque. No complaining about the previous caller or being derogatory about people who don’t just answer yes or no. No discouragement at adding information. Still could show a modicum of sympathy I feel.
First assessment I had for an arm injury in 1994 was professional, but my GP failed to hand the results to me. As a consequence I had to go and have another assessment in 1997. There were steps going up to the door and the doors were very heavy. The attitude was condescending and dismissive. When I told the assessor it was being rude, i was greated with a temper tantrum so I cancelled it and tols the doctor i would come back and have it with someone else. It sent a report describing me as a fraudulent injuries claimant. Without taking me to court first and proving it the DWP cut me off completeltly and my landlord tried to evict me. I asked about it and I was told they had adopted an attitude of being awkward with claims. I appeales and sent medical records with the appeal. The respponse was to call the disabilty an old injury. I complained to the GMC about the false and defammatory reportinbg and appealed again. It took from 1007 to 2001 to win. I was exhausted and suffering from anxiety by then because of being cut off and having to work uninsured, when i could get work. The 1994 DWP report I should have had was found in with someone elses medical records in 1998. Some doctors are a waste of money, air ,food and space.
you must be one of the lucky ones! i had one on the phone and she sounded nice but most of the information i gave was missed out by her!... when i questioned the letter that came (mandatory consideration) they stated different matters! LIES! all LIES!!!
Your recorded interview just demonstrates that the assessment interviewer hasn't typed your answers, or you would have been awarded points. It's useful for others to know how this interview works and what questions are asked, me included. Really interesting. Thank you.
@@mathsfornineyearolds I hope you appealed the decision, I have a telephone assessment for pips on Monday and am dreading it, I am gonna have my sister with me, I understand that can't speak for you but they can help you explain more clearly the problems you face
She’s asking questions to assess his awareness, straight away I’d remind her that it’s mental health I suffer and not stupidity…..this is Neanderthal. People like Stephan fry should get behind this atrocity
Hi. I have social phobia too. I am due to have a telephone medical in 2 weeks and this is helping me greatly. I have anxiety and depression too. Hope things get better.
It’s people like you that make it so hard for people like me, with physical incurable disabilities to get these benefits. This whole anxiety schtick needs to stop, FGS. I bet you’d have no issue taking a phone call that informed you about the amount of money you’re being awarded
@@homegirl4155 it's people like you that make people with anxiety struggle 10x more. You can't just stop having anxiety. Stop being so naive and close minded. Think of others.
@@homegirl4155 It's people like you who sit in your chair blaming other people for not getting what you feel you deserve. You aren't satisfied with what you receive, blame the government you claim from not the other people trying to live.
@@homegirl4155 I can tell you first hand that depression, and it's good friend anxiety, can be crippling just as badly as a physical problem. Count yourself lucky you are not in that boat as well. Also, it is the DWP that make it hard for you, not other people.
i audio recorded my second assesment after there were numerous commissions and outright lies in my first assessment report. DWP/ATOS/CAPITA try to scare claimants by saying you must use certain equipment or if found to be recording youll be asked to stop or leave. etc, but you are right there is legally nothing they can do to stop you recording for your own benefit, and you can always just write up a transcript of the recording from memory and use that.
@@SuperHoneycombe I have read MANY reports on me by healthcare professionals as I ordered my medical notes and there are ALWAYS facts written incorrectly or things that I have said that have been misconstrued or the report writer has added in their opinion which is wrong more often than not.
I know about the lies part. The DWP assessor is going to be an academically inept banded labourer who has been briefed to try and block the claim. They are not fooling anyone.
@@WATCHINGTHEWATCHERS999 Appears to match my experiences. I noticed the med reports sent to me by the DWP do not match those they sent to my GP. When I last wrote to my GP to have my records sent to me, I was ignored, but I copied them off from the med centre records on line. My medical history does not match that on the medical records I collected in previous years either. The news paper journalist I send it to is going to find it interesting reading.
You are not alone. I have Bipolar Disorder and was given zero points as well. The assessors are just following the questions on the computer. They don't take into consideration that a person with a mental illness has periods of time when they can't function and periods when they can. Anxiety is the pits and concentration is a real problem when cooking. Forgetting when to do important things like paying bills and eating when you are in the grips of depression and stomach cramps is a nightmare too. I am empathetic to your situation. I really hope they change the way people with anxiety and other mental illnesses are assessed because the current system sucks.
Here Here.👍. I got zero points, went to tribunal after a year and won. I suffer with Depression and Anxiety. These Assessments are to try and catch you out. Treated like a fraudster.
sorry dear they wont change ever! sorry to burst your bubble but its the DWP thats at fault any time its announced on the news that all the benefits are being upgraded for the disabled its bullshit they stick to their plan period!
I feel like noone NEEDS to type that loudly... I also have an anxiety disorder (along with autism) and I couldn't listen to that whole assesment as the typing sound was making me flinch
Don’t get me started on PIP how fucking corrupt it is. I appealed and I still got a no and zero points. I have adhd autism anxiety and depression. It said you can only be rewarded if there’s a person physically looking after you and being there. Well I needed someone there by my side for admin, I need someone to help with my washing as I wear my clothes and sleep with them for days. I forget to shower. I can only cook in bulks and basic food have to have pre chopped frozen veg. I’m slow at cutting and preparing a meal/follow instructions off a recipe. Apparently getting lost in a journey on your own as you can’t follow instructions means nothing. I stay in bed most of the time as I’m tierd and have no energy due to my depression. I lose things and get overwhelmed I can’t plan or organise Sorry I’m angry how currupt these nurses and people think a disability is only physical where I know people with autism and axiety got pip.
Take note of the way she (nurse) is speaking to the insurance claimant. "this is not a medical examination" because she is not qualified to do it. Edit: Take note of the stats given.tHEY ARE PART OF A PSYCHOLOGICAL ALGORITHM. if you see that, or hear it, the person imagines they are playing doctor with you. It is a self delusional ego trip. The 'psychiatric one starts with tangent point five cosine to point 64 then sine point five to cosines point 27. Psychologically the user imagines it is having the same effect on you as music. The irony is, if you put any of it in your college work you get it handed back with a nought on it. These mathematical algorithms are used everywhere at a professional level. I was introduced to them in the 1970's on a management course. It is usually the bottom end of the achievement level that use it. They are also used in movies and history books. 1954 and 1942 are quite common, but there are many sequences. You need a juvenile level of mathematical attainment to work out the sequences.mOST HUMANS IN MY EXPERIENCE ARE INUMERATE, due to lack of intellectual effort, or ability to grasp simple deductive reasoning, but it marks the difference in intellectual assessment, between working and middle class.
Hi there. Will keep my fingers crossed for you. How did your assessment go? Would love to hear from you about it as I also have adhd and my assessment should be coming up soon. Any tips or anything would be greatly appreciated
@@chrissylee2359 Hi I was awarded finally with daily living, 0 on mobility which I disagree with but I'm not bothering fighting it as any help is better than none. Thanks for asking.
@@Sararizzles hi thats good do u not need some1 with u to go.out or can you go on your own I have my assessment Monday I can't go anywer by myself as get confused and can't concentrate and have panick attacks all comes with my a.d.h.d
@@Sararizzles hi I had my assesment over phone and received txt message same day from dwp saying ther have my written assesment any1 know if that's good or bad to receive it so quick
Well I thought the assessor was using leading questions, how long can you walk for half hour/ hour? He agreed with half an hour. Mine would be no - 1 minute and in pain mostly. It's so intrusive, I bet he didn't manage to express half of his struggles.
They're absolute liars I'm taking dwp to a tribunal they put me through hell I have depression and they made it worse I shouldn't have to fight for something I'm legally entitled to that benefit should be given to people who have a diagnosis of a condition or disability they shouldn't have to prove anything
Already in receipt of PIP but having a phone assessment later this month. Seriously stressed out as I’ve been lied about before and had to appeal when they deducted my money based on those lies . I have nothing to hide but what if my words are twisted and lies are told again ❓It’s SO SO stressful ..
I am desperately waiting for the form to come through I am tired to deal with the same bullshit every couple of years I look after my mother I am registered carer and appointee she suffer with dementia she has had 7 surgeries on her legs COPD is in last stage she's very breathless she's unable to walk she's wheelchair user she also has syncope episode she blackout she can not remember her date of birth her address her NI number I don't understand what's the point to just keep reassessing her next form will be forth assessment since mid 2016 I am going to ask them for an on-going award this time anything less than that I will ask for mandatory reconsideration than tribunal they want to mess me about I really can't handle it anymore funny enough every time they recommend she will be improving but next assessment she has more adaptations more medications more problems
I have an assessment tomorrow... And when she said do u play with your daughter... I imagined how I'd answer and Im just sat here crying I have 4 daughters and I so desperately want to do more with them 😭 they come to my bed an ask if they can read a book to me or we can play word searches together an stuff 😔
I recently had 2 assessments within 2 weeks, the first assessment lasted 59 minutes and ended up with the paramedics being called, the 2nd assessment they started right from the very beginning and it took me 2 hours and 39 minutes!!! I got a total of ZERO points. I recorded both interviews ready for the tribunal as I knew what they would do.
Did you tell them you were recording the assessment? If not then the tribunal will dismiss your recording without even listening to it regardless of what is said in the recording. Just a heads up for you...
@@thetoad7367 That is incorrect, a tribunal will take your recordings as evidence as long as they have been transcripted and witnessed by an independent person, my illegal recordings have just been accepted for my mandatory consideration and I went from zero points to being awarded full benefits, you have to remember DWP and for example, IAS all have their own policies but they are not law, they are just rules that they feel you should adhere to but as you don't work for said DWP or IAS they don't mean anything at a tribunal as long as your evidence proves that what you have shows the DWP have lied.
Looking at these comments is getting me extremely sad and anxious about my assessment 😔 I’m 24 and I can’t help but feel like they are going to try and cheat me out of the money I need to live... it’s good to know that recording the assessments is an option and will still be taken into account even if they don’t know they are being recorded. Thanks for your knowledge and good luck to all of you
I was on Pip enhanced, no mobility . My re claim took a year , didn’t even get an assessment. Was awarded this year enchanted no mobility again until 2027 .
Similar experience on two assessments. First one lied 3 times and also destroyed the tapes before she handed them to me. I had spinal surgery in two places and they scored me a zero lol. Appeal went through and I won. Then they forgot to sort my money so I'm still waiting for a mandatory recon from 2019!!
Many people have commented on not recording without telling the assessor. I believe since November they must record if you ask at least 3 days before. Also, the DWP use covert surveillance to monitor people who they believe are lying about their condition. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.
If, assessment companies are as truthful, honest and professional as they claim? Why would they object to a recording of the assessment? I, know someone who only just survived the brutal welfare reform cuts and their ordeal began 2016 and did not end until 2020. To state it was unprecedented mayhem and chaos would be an understatement to end all others. It included a first tier tribunal judge who "erred in law" according to their upper tier tribunal colleague (who actually sided with the claimant, stating at one point in the proceedings they themselves were utterly confused by the DWP decisions.) It included alleged misplaced mandatory considerations, plural. It included the assessment company informing the claimant in writing that the large bundle of supporting medical evidence the claimant sent into the assessment company could not be shared with the DWP (unless the claimant gave their written consent for it to be shared) or it would be a breach of data protection. Hold on a second. If, the assessment companies are contracted by the DWP to assess benefit applicants and report back to the DWP, why would they need written permission from the claimant to share all the medical paperwork with them? The fact the claimant was an outpatient of the NSIC and community head injury service was not taken into account until fresh reports were supplied to the claimant by their medical team. Which included a Consultant Neuropsychologist, a spinal consultant and two GPs. All of whom have far more medical experience than the alleged assessment medical professionals who are either a nurse, mental health nurse, paramedic, physiotherapist or occupational therapist. The whole completely degrading and humiliating experience will leave you feeling extremely small and insignificant and even guilty for being alive and daring to burden the state with your presence. The claimant in question has never fully recovered from the ordeal. They were so put upon, distracted, stressed and deflated they lost at least two very close family members during the tribunal process and would not even leave home. Their stress, mental anguish, well being and peace of mind was off the scale. The claimant sought help and registered a grievance with the alleged Independent Case Examiner (ICE) Despite sending in all relevant paperwork on time they were informed their case could not proceed as it was received late. I, drew parallels between DWP and Nazis.
With severe osteoarthritis on both feet and hands I was persistently asked how far I walked . I said I didn’t go out. Then he asked did I go to the doctors I said yes. I said my wife dropped me off . So he asked how did you get from the car to the doctors . I said I walked from the side road. He asked how long and I said less than two minutes. From that he estimated that I could walk more than 50 metres 80 metres. And dropped my mobility to 4 points . I looked up on google maps and the walk was 29 meters . We have sent this in on the mandatory appeal.
What i don't understand is people like myself with proper medical conditions are the ones targeted by dwp, good game players use their family friends, lie and go and work continuously and get the highest rate of everything. I've recently had an operation and am on my own struggling. No help from anyone. I ended crawling the stairs because i couldn't stand up. Atos and dwp should target liars first, not vulnerable disabled people who can't work.
in 2018 in answering a freddom of information request that took them3 years to answer the DWP admited setting its decision makers an 80 % failure target so stop with your bullshitting defence in 2019 a report from glasgow university concluded that the tories austerity war on the long term sick disabled and dieing had sent 330,000 uk citizens to an early grave These assesments do not consider any evidence from peoples gp's or specialist they activly ignore it
I listen to the recording, it was interesting from both sides. You have to remember there are those who want to do their jobs but are restricted by the red tape of the DWP and there are others. They're people who really want to work and need support and those who will find every reason not to work. There are those who play the system and there are genuine people who cannot work. It is not all on the assessors and it is not all on the claimants.
Here's one. 1987 report swollen wrist and stabbing pains to GP. Told it was a torn tendon and I would have to give up my job and claim industrial injuiries benefit. Consulted job centre and told not entitled to claim it. Reported the information to GP. Response, silence, action taken none. 1993 I met someone with the same injury and they told me they were getting it, so I went back to DWP and told a worker and I was told they would arrange it, but I did not see any paper work. Jan 1994 I consult my GP and tell it I have applied for it sfter finding out the previous advice was wrong, but not heared anything. Feb 1994 I attend gov medical assessment, but hear nothing more. I had just got a job after spending about a year unemployed. After telling the employer I was limited on what kind of work I could do, I was given task that injured me. In 1996 after becomming unemployed again I went to college to try and requalify with the intention of adding a BA to my existing qualifications so I could get a paying job an advance. The DWP medical report was not sent to me, it was sent to my GP who failed to notify me of it. It was later found in with someone elses medical records. Because I did not know the results of the 1994 medical report I had to re apply in 1997 because I was trying to get accepted as a disabled student because I would not have been able to afford it otherwise. At the ATOS examination the doctor wanted to carry out the wrong assessment so I explained what I was there for and what the injury was. I was very conescendingly dismissed so i tols it its manners were bad. The response was a temper tantrum so I explained I am terminating the exaMINATION AND I WILL COME BACK AND HAVE IT WITH SOMEONE ELSE. The report was sent to me that time. It described me as a fraudulent injuries claimant and without taking me to court first and proving it, I was completely cut off. I had one DWP dept investigating me for fraud, one trying to get me accepted as a disabled student, and another trying to block the injury claim as I was appealing the desciscion. I complained to the GMC about thATOS doctor's behaviour, but heared nothing. Two appeals and three years later I win the appeal and the doctor was repremanded for false and defammatory reporting. I appealed against re assessments for the injury as well and won that. By then I was cut off by the system, could not pay bills, i had letters from bailiffs saying they were comming to empty my home and sell my possessions at auction. I had my water disconnected, and suffered three evictions attempts. An arm injury became an arm injury and a severe anxiety condition. I spent several years off sick with it. I was exhauste. I have been cut off twice since then. The anxiety condition left me with a very erratic sleep pattern that is long standing and I have to manage that as a self employed person. When I was first cut off I took on work I was not insurable for, or be evicted. Three months of that was as an employee. I noticed the tax and national insurance deductions for that period were not acted on and the national insurance payments were not added to my contracted out pension. I am still waiting, after years of notifying and complaining for that to happen. I just wanted to re qualify and get a job and the DWP and ATOS stamped all over it. I am 64 now, 18 montha away from retirement with an erratic sleep pattern. Thanks a lot you cretins in the DWP. Edit: the stats used in the script are known to me. I understand the term being used by initiated alumni for it is "the theft of an ancient artefact". Those of you on the square will know what the artefact part of that is. Some one it told me the algorithm had been stolen. I see a lot of it in the stats in these you tube videos. people calling themselves doctors and so on. Who are you trying to kid?
@@mathsfornineyearolds Such a disturbing read - but thank you for sharing this. I would send a copy to your MP as the whole system let you down so badly. Really hope you don't ever need to contact DWP again and take time to enjoy the little things in life which are beautiful. x
in 2018 in answering a freddom of information request that took them3 years to answer the DWP admited setting its decision makers an 80 % failure target so stop with your bullshitting defence in 2019 a report from glasgow university concluded that the tories austerity war on the long term sick disabled and dieing had sent 330,000 uk citizens to an early grave These assesments do not consider any evidence from peoples gp's or specialist they activly ignore it
I have a PIP phone assessment this Thursday and so worried. Just listening to this gave me a weird feeling in my stomach and shaking. But also helpful to have listened to this to get an idea of how it might be structured, potential questions. Have asked for it to be recorded - they cancelled my initial date when I did this and had to be put back on the waiting list for another date.
How did it appear to go? I always think of PIP/ESA assignments as a three stage process, assessment, appeal, and then tribunal. It removes a lot of the anxiety from the process. I have had three PIP assessments. First one nothing, then standard daily at tribunal. Second one, standard mobility and standard living at MR. The final one (which was done on the phone) I received higher rate living and standard mobility at MR. My ESA has had two assessments, the first was done on paper, the second one went to tribunal, my council got a message that the GP on the tribunal panel let me go into support group without even seeing me.
I told pip assessor i was recording on phone assessment and was told to stop. i said OK but they cut me off saying they didn't trust that i has stepped . waiting to hear what happens next.
@@EvilStreaks rubbish, loads of people have received it just fine, those that continue to record with no permission will cost many more people the chance of recording it correctly because they will stop all recordings and tribunals will stop allowing recordings to be heard or read
@@mevans1175 They wouldn't NEED to record it if the companies dealt with you fairly and honestly. You can't prove against the truth with recordings, can you? The whole process is a "how can we deny them" shield, so OF COURSE people want SOME f-ing power of providing evidence. Jesus.
The decision is made by what the Assessor writes down which more often than not is complete bullshit to what's being said in the assessment , You Say one thing they write down the opposite , i was a total wreck in an assessment once was hyperventilating , panicking , sobbing like a baby , BUT according to the Assessors Report 'Appeared to be calm and collected throughout the assessment' Then the lies continued throughout by the assessor or i would say very important facts which would have a baring which just get left out because they choose not to write it down. Always have it recorded if possible because these Assassins sorry Assessors are there to take you down by hook or by crook regardless how ill you might be it means nothing to them they go home afterwards and sleep well at night i can assure you ready to go again the next day.
Surely that sort of lying on official documents is an offence under the disabilty act and the assessor should be charged? Maybe in these cases if people made police complaints of hate crime under the disbality act and assessors like this got into legal trouble they'd think twice?
I have been told by every doctor Iv ever had, ever member of staff Iv had contact with at the Citizens Advice Bureau, Various Psychologists, Numerous NHS nurses and various members of staff at financial advice companies as well as my bank, that the DWP can do as they please and they are above the law, there is nothing anybody can do about it! So if not a single person in a position of authority will challenge them you are left helpless!
@@munkiking4511 That's worrying, no organisation should be above the law. That in itself is a grounds for complaints surely. Even so I was referring to the individual assessors themselves. If more and more victims made complaints under the disablilty act against the assessors rather than the "department". And if the police don't investigate properly then complaints to the Police should be the next step.
This is really a winner for people who are good at interviews. What is this woman digging for with her Internet questions? I feel like they have been encouraged to try and catch people out.
That's why you ask for a recorded interview, the tape doesn't lie, someone with a low moral compass on a potential bonus or incentive will go for the bonus. What they tell themselves to be able to do it is easy. Many of the questions asked aren't relevant, he should have answered "not relevant".
@@northernthrifter8817yes like asking him if he passed his exams at school?! He’s married with a child and said he hasn’t worked for 20 years. Pretty sure his school days are not relevant at this point.
I’ve listened to this, and anyone who can’t understand why he didn’t get any points, listen to the recording carefully, his answers are contrived he can’t even say what his family business is!
I felt really sorry for this guy up until i seen the rest of his videos and for someone who claims to have not left the house for numerous years and suffered with this for over 20yrs he's sure gets around the world with no problems I'm sorry but something just doesn't sit right to me
This is disgusting. I wish you had have asked for a recorded assessment. You do have to give them a few weeks notice but they supply the two way recordings and you get to have a copy they keep the other. This means when things are twisted you have proof of what was said.
I have a PIP AWARD REVIEW TELEPHONE assessment in the next few weeks and I've told them I'm going to record the whole interaction as it's my rights to do so for poor memory and for my own personal use only. if I don't get it I will take it further as I no I'm fully entitled to it
@@piphelpadvicesupport9346 The difficulty for some who are so used to masking disability (making invisible) will clam up more if recorded, even when for their own protection. Attending an appeal in person more so as have already been through a horrid emotionally turbulent process. SCD & Anxiety is crippling often quiet ways. These people get left behind with no support.
Kat how did your assessment go? Would love to hear form you, as I'm currently waiting for my assessment appointment to come through and like you, I'm very anxious about the call. I hope it went well for you and will keep my fingers crossed.
Atos interviews go like this, If you walk into the interview you have failed. If you talk to them you have failed. That just about sums the scum bags up, traitorous lying back stabbing four letter word people, everyone they don't give it to they get a bonus. I WOULD ADVISE EVERYONE HAVING AN INTERVIEW WITH THEM TO RECORD EVERYTHING...
What utter rubbish. The assessor can stop the interview if consent is not given to record. Please do not listen to him, as all what will happen is that the interview is stopped, you will be asked to leave, if you do not leave then security and then possibly the police and you will score zero points.
Just listening to this assessment I can read between the lines of both sides. I can see why you got 0 points. The problem = Your wife looks after you like a nurse or carer.
@@piphelpadvicesupport9346 I was just saying that the assessor would probably think that you don't need help or money because your wife helps you all the time. She should get carers allowance etc
@@Unicorns The assessor doesn't make the decision mate, the DWP do based on the recording and assessor's report which will hopefully be an accurate record of what was said.
I am going have my pip telephone assessment soon. Just wanted to know what was the result of this assessment did you get it? Any advice as i have mostly similar problems like you have.
@@seharkhan6302 Yes should definitely appeal, if you have strong medical evidence, you should get more points from a different.PIP assessor or win your appeal in court.
How disgusting and demeaning are the questions what is 10 pence take away 7 !!!! It proves nothing at all. But they will fill in that you can manage your money/financial affairs on the form !!!
Had my phone assessment today, didn't get asked most of these questions, lasted 1.5hrs and then at the end said it will take 8 weeks for a decision 😲 also said they might need to phone back if anything needs clarifying? Glad it's done, got cancelled previously
@@diamondzz19 hi, ok so they gave me points and I got awarded pip on the low rate for both sections which I was happy with tbh, couple hundred every month is not too bad.
Jeeez why is she typing Like that ???? Constantly putting words in your mouth! It’s uncomfortable listening. I have a face to face tomorrow for physical limitations and mobility but listening to this am nervous. That tap tap tap is jangling my nerves and I’m not a shrinking violet 😳😵💫
How the bloody hell are you concentrating with that keyboard clicking going on. This is nonsense, it should be enough if your doctor says you are worthy. Adrian, I would love to know.... Did you get PIP or not.
They are awfull people, they are intimidating, the assessor even put that my friend was on Facebook, I assure you she wasent, have you got a bank account? Of course she has a bank account, they play mind games even Thoe you write in detail and give them all the information they need, why oh why do you need a face to face assement only to be asked the same things that you wrote in your claim or review form, it's unbelievable how your not belived, shall we all get jobs doing this job, and save so Maney lives by suicide!!!
I went through it it took her 35 mins to cut 2 points from planing a journey after haveing both living allowance and motobility enhanced rates for 18 years and told her I was getting worse the older I get but still docked it from my DLA
The doctor told I have spinal osteoarthritis and it has damaged a nerve in my left side and my left arm and it's hard to move around also I have high hypertension all medical evidence submitted, guess what I've been told I'm fit for work I'll start my appeal very soon
Because she just wants a answer yes or no soon as she gets that question then that’s were it all goes wrong because then u know u won’t get any points because she is putting what she wants in there and putting words into his mouth
Most of the one being recruited now must be a doctor, nurse or other allied health professionals (all are medically trained in the capacity of their profession, I cannot comment on the one in this recording). Also I believe are employing these assessor directly (do not quote me, just seen the job adverts.
I've never had any issues with PIP or ESA - I've had several assessments. Just recently, I've put in for a change of circumstances due to my mobility deteriorating and I went from standard to enchanced on PIP on a paper based decision. I suffer terribly with anxiety as well - I haven't been out for a year.
Sorry to hear that. Glad you was put on enhanced, you deserve it. I have had bad GAD since 1993, so I know what your going through. I have been taking Citalopram for ten years to help with anxiety disorders. What medication are you taking? All the best and hope you feel better soon.
@@piphelpadvicesupport9346 I'm on 30mg of Citalopram. A lot of my MH issues are triggered by chronic pain and the fear of falling. If I'd had better support at the beginning regarding that, it really would have helped x
No wonder he didn’t get the reward. He said he can eat without been promoted and he goes to the country side twice a week. Pretending he doesn’t know his daughters age is comical. I can see on you’re RU-vid videos you don’t have any trouble getting about
I'm not surprised you scored zero points. You definitely need some PIP training. It's like an exam. You need to learn how to pass it. I got enhanced rate for both after mandatory reconsideration.
Please can anyone give me advice, I have a tribunal next Wednesday and I am so so worried !! I was given 0 points I have ptsd anxiety gad mobility issues after being in 2 car crashes. Multiple suicide attempts I’m so worried
I worried for a year. My tribunal went well, they saw my anxiety, as i cryed throughout. Dont worry, there very nice people. Just answer questions honestly like i did. They will have all your evidence. All they do is go through your claim form and the answers you gave. Your just repeating your answers. There not as bad as you think. Good Luck. 😊
75 % of appeals the claimants win in 2018 in answering a freddom of information request that took them3 years to answer the DWP admited setting its decision makers an 80 % failure target so stop with your bullshitting defence in 2019 a report from glasgow university concluded that the tories austerity war on the long term sick disabled and dieing had sent 330,000 uk citizens to an early grave These assesments do not consider any evidence from peoples gp's or specialist they activly ignore it
@@jaynekittycat9252 SCHEURMANS disease curviture of the spine plate damage at al levels perthes disease deformed hip joint chronic pain and mobility problems had been on incapacity benefit for 2 years then was told i was goung to be assesed scored zero points went to tribunal after scoring 0 points and having the reconsideration turned down took a year awarded 15 points for mobility offered extra points for obvious chronic depression i told them no i wanted the dwp to apply their rules on repetition and safety ( doing things) ended up on £20 per week for 3 years - reassesd after 3 years again scored 0 points for mobility however was awarded ESA support due to mental issues lol lol lol during this process the assesors informed my gp that in their opinion i was a suicide risk thanks to the my gp stopped my tablets for chronic pain and will only issue paracetomol unbelievablle - in 2018 in answering a freddom of information request that took them3 years to answer the DWP admited setting its decision makers an 80 % failure target so stop with your bullshitting defence in 2019 a report from glasgow university concluded that the tories austerity war on the long term sick disabled and dieing had sent 330,000 uk citizens to an early grave These assesments do not consider any evidence from peoples gp's or specialist they activly ignore it
The DWP/Crapita made me sign a form to state what I could do with the recording, although I no longer have the statement, I am pretty sure that uploading it to RU-vid is not allowed, since it cannot be used for entertainment purposes, or is this an educational purpose?
Wonder where he got marriied....... or did he have a panic attack on the day.........OMG its people like this work shy guy give the genuine people o points
When they dont give you time to answer? And answer for you there lieying. This guy has to say 'could you please let me answer the question becouse i dont know if thats a question or a statement and why are you rushing me?
I haven't watched this video but would like to say this year a close family member has had an over the phone assessment 😂... and was awarded 10/12 points for mobility even though they can walk fine (in my tax paying opinion) and they have everything paid for a nice car and holidays every year. Thanks Mr/Mrs Government for giving our tax money away so easily.
Are you having a fucking laugh? PIP is notorious for being difficult to get, thousands of people who desperatley need it get rejected each week. Rarely gets awarded and when it does its usually when an appeal has been made over the course of a few months. The mobility component doesnt just cover your ability to move around its a lot more than general movement. Keep your ignorant uneducated opinion to yourself. Doubt you pay much tax anyways
@@suesmith3744 I'm tarring the people who abuse the system with the same brush. I'm more than happy to give my tax money to struggling people with genuine disabilities. But the instance I'm referring to is someone who needs no aids or support yet has convinced the doctors they do.
yes i know others too ,i have pain on walking for nearly 20 years and getting worse ,on beta blockers for heart problems ,shoulder pain if use arm above waist height for a few min that started aged 17 ,pplantar facilitis a umber of times ,last few years in agony making me scream if sit back in chair or lie straight on my back .i got turned down 2 times and i am nearly 60 ,i have gotten so angry and depressed but doctors idont listen .
See you've got to be really really careful, there was a few things in this conversation where you contradicted your self, or it seemed like you had read up or saying what you've been told to say. Like its scripted. You said you've not tried to kill your self but your not bothered about dying but then later on said your scared of having an overdose... she then seemed to hit on that because she tried to bring it back up. I think with this horrible interviews you get to a point you feel you've got to be like over top and PROVE your self which is so degrading! These need to be stopped its disgusting and she sounds as empathetic as a don't know what. These questions are stupid questions especially for GAD and depression and ocd its not one boot fits all when it comes to it we are all different I have agoraphobia but I can go out sometimes but they expect me to be in 24/7 and wither away. It need to be changed this method
