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PIPE VS MUFFLER REAL WORLD GAINS? 

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Testing the ms 170 pipe vs a stock muffler. Does an expansion chamber work on a chainsaw?
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@MrJeepfreak1972
@MrJeepfreak1972 9 месяцев назад
More 170 testing please. I'm as curious as you are Joe on what will hold up or fail. Plus, small saws need love too. 😅
@treewisemenllc7281
@treewisemenllc7281 5 месяцев назад
I love the little 170s. This is awesome!
@Houseworksaws
@Houseworksaws 8 месяцев назад
Meanwhile mine is sitting over here smiling with a hole drilled in it’s muffler lol 😆… Honestly I was surprised how well it runs after all the work I did to it. Cool video Joe, Great content
@toddzilla6491
@toddzilla6491 9 месяцев назад
Great video!! Love the real world testing backed up by the dyno. Thanks👍
@R_Kyllonen
@R_Kyllonen 9 месяцев назад
Great video. It’s really nice to follow along with the small steps of a build and see what she does. 👍
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 9 месяцев назад
I like the experimenting with the saws. Interesting seeing what does what to the saws.
@BuckYaSaws
@BuckYaSaws 9 месяцев назад
Love the sound of a piped saw on a Sunday morning!
@johnclarke8180
@johnclarke8180 9 месяцев назад
Well done Joe, I still find it hard to believe that the stock saw made the most amount of torque. HP gains were definitely impressive. Thanks for sharing.
@Super-Dave-Outdoors
@Super-Dave-Outdoors 9 месяцев назад
It made the most TQ but it was under 8000rpm in a range that you typically wont cut in.
@IndianaDoug
@IndianaDoug 9 месяцев назад
I ended up bringing the timing back a bit on mine, seemed to take away rpm but add torque. Mine is also the older style 170 though.
@coxsaws
@coxsaws 7 месяцев назад
Rock, on with that little wood cutting machine. Give it an alcohol carb and some pipe and see if you get it into the 5.5 range
@Bigcheif360
@Bigcheif360 9 месяцев назад
Like these dyno sessions trying different things then putting them to the wood. That 170 is holding on well for turning those kind of numbers.
@steezin_4no_reazon
@steezin_4no_reazon 3 месяца назад
I would def buy one of these pipe for my 170 just for the exhaust note alone
@tedneitzel
@tedneitzel 9 месяцев назад
Good stuff Joe! Looks like its figured out now well done!
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
It is getting closer
@markcdeyoung3118
@markcdeyoung3118 9 месяцев назад
-Grind the cylinder to match the pipe man You're gettin' her down to a science 😎👍
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
It is all a science. Since I'm not rushing to make an event I can take the time to do incremental changes to see the effect.
@joederringer6716
@joederringer6716 9 месяцев назад
@@dynojoemods2764 Have you ever done a test with different fuels? Chickanic did a video on different store bought fuels and some kind of hurt performance and wouldn’t make the rpm of others. If you haven’t would you make a video please?
@Re-cycles408
@Re-cycles408 6 месяцев назад
She sings a beautiful tune with that pipe ❤😂😂😂
@lifebehindtheaxe3835
@lifebehindtheaxe3835 9 месяцев назад
Imagine this saw in white pine same size with a race chain...
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember Месяц назад
I’ve had this thought for a while. What would happen with full skip chain and a little lower rakers. Would it hold higher rpms,
@ragercrepair9301
@ragercrepair9301 9 месяцев назад
If it's faster it's worth it! I would like to see alcohol and nitrous! Good video!
@michaelmeyers1827
@michaelmeyers1827 9 месяцев назад
I’ve been led to believe that 2 cycles always run better with a like back pressure in the muffler
@Billy-burner
@Billy-burner 9 месяцев назад
Back pressure and 2 strokes are words which should never be used in the same sentence.
@dg9bfc
@dg9bfc 9 месяцев назад
Pressing back the fresh air mixture that escaped from exhaust opening with a resonant pipe can give 50%more power.. Like using a turbo
@yo_marc
@yo_marc 8 месяцев назад
@@dg9bfcnever thought of this until your comment: I wonder if strat saws see the same gains from a pipe as a non-stratified engine might.
@frankz1125
@frankz1125 9 месяцев назад
Sounds much better, Its almost a race saw. LOL . Cheers
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 9 месяцев назад
When I go wide open throttle on my 272 it fourstrokes just like it should but after a second it starts cleaning up and then revs higher until I let go of the throttle because I'm afraid it'll blow up. To me this sounds like a vacuum leak that causes a lean condition but that mfr DOES NOT LEAK! I have pressure/vac tested it to some crazy values and its airtight. This is tested with 2 different carbs.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
Check the fuel lines, that they are solid no holes or dont get pinched while running
@thomaslindroos1667
@thomaslindroos1667 9 месяцев назад
@@dynojoemods2764 that could be, there is a small possibility that the fuel line is 35 years old
@10homie
@10homie 9 месяцев назад
Hey bro, larger carb u mean drilled main jet hole or another carb?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
Carb swap
@meskalin64
@meskalin64 24 дня назад
How does that tachometer work?
@crperformancetucker5065
@crperformancetucker5065 9 месяцев назад
Be cool to see a piped 2511
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 9 месяцев назад
I’m curious about running a pipe on a milling saw.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
I just so happened to win a 36" mill setup at sawfest this year. Might need to pipe a 660 and see how it does....
@scottallpress3818
@scottallpress3818 8 месяцев назад
Would make sense especially since it won’t be in the way
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 8 месяцев назад
@@dynojoemods2764 Running a pipe should be fine for the engine, right? I’ve heard it’s not good to run ported saws milling because of they can run too hot under a constant load? Could a pipe help a stock saw run cooler? Would a gasket delete with stock port-timing numbers and ignition timing advance be okay with a pipe on a milling saw?
@PurpleNovember
@PurpleNovember 8 месяцев назад
@@scottallpress3818 That’s exactly what I was thinking. I’m also wondering if a stock saw would run a little cooler, maybe enough to get away with a gasket delete and timing advance.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 8 месяцев назад
@@PurpleNovember with everything and the pipe designed right it could work in theory. But I am not really sure.
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy 9 месяцев назад
Is that the stock .043 gauge chain? I wonder if the .050 chain would speed up cut times. I really like those 170s more with the bigger chain
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
That is a 3/8lp picco. 050 14"
@patthesoundguy
@patthesoundguy 9 месяцев назад
@@dynojoemods2764 right on already the bigger chain 👍👍👍
@joeracertx
@joeracertx 3 месяца назад
Very Interesting results. Who made the pipe?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 3 месяца назад
I made the pipe.
@joeracertx
@joeracertx 3 месяца назад
@@dynojoemods2764 You did a great job. I watched your pipe fabrication video after I asked this question.
@mackenziesibley7025
@mackenziesibley7025 7 месяцев назад
What carb are you running joe?
@richhoffman432
@richhoffman432 9 месяцев назад
Do you happen to know at what rpm this saw was 2 stroking/4 stroking at?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
It was still plenty rich in the 13k range. Even on pipe it wanted to be above 14k before it was sounding good.
@joehackett9471
@joehackett9471 9 месяцев назад
More better on pipe, me thinks!
@jamiewykes8585
@jamiewykes8585 9 месяцев назад
what diameter is the cherry you are cutting? I'm trying to gauge performance with my little saws using the cherry I have on hand.
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
I'd say 10-11" or so.
@jamiewykes8585
@jamiewykes8585 9 месяцев назад
Thanks, Is that a 14" bar on the ms170?
@dynojoemods2764
@dynojoemods2764 9 месяцев назад
@@jamiewykes8585 Yes 14"
@adrianstefan23
@adrianstefan23 9 месяцев назад
👌👌👍🏻👍🏻🔊🔊
@jackpinesavageadventures3142
@jackpinesavageadventures3142 9 месяцев назад
👍🏻👏🪵
@johndoe-ko8nu
@johndoe-ko8nu 9 месяцев назад
Just a thought ? what about pipe wrap on that expansion chamber?
@vtwinaddicted5852
@vtwinaddicted5852 9 месяцев назад
Keep sonic what your doing, maybe sometime you could do a video on mixing oils
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