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PISA Mover 

David Frankal
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PISA Mover
I take a quick ride on the People-Mover linking Pisa Centrale and Pisa Airport.
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Комментарии : 35   
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 3 года назад
As a transport analyst I really appreciate your videos of rail transport. The people mover appears to have rubber tyres running on the metal plates like part of the Paris metro that has really tight curves. I note it its cable drawn like an old fashioned tram. The walking distance between station and airport terminal is upto a mile (1600 m) depending on the route, but could be reduced to 1100 m if appropriate access arrangements were made at the station (which would improve local access.
@karegnal
@karegnal 3 года назад
This system is nice. But it replaces a regular trainservice that gave direct connection to more stations and was much, much cheaper. An example of innovation that, sadly, a lot of users did not experience as an improvement.
@CaliWeHo
@CaliWeHo 2 года назад
That's too bad. I'm in Richmond, Va. and they did the same thing with our horrible bus system.
@jeiuanne331
@jeiuanne331 2 года назад
I remember the old train service. I used to live 30 miles out of Pisa and I'd have to catch the train to the Airport all the time. It was a good direct service. Now its gone and I have no idea why. They stopped it like 6 years ago I cant remember 100 percent but I never understood now I have to get out at Pisa Centro whenever I go back and that is not a nice statiom I'll be honestm
@peteregan3862
@peteregan3862 3 года назад
The cable car route is 1800 m. It also serves a parking station 700 metres from the station end of the route.
@Stjaernljus
@Stjaernljus 3 года назад
Technology Connections has some really good videos on peoplemovers in the US.
@xecoq
@xecoq 2 года назад
Pisa airport might have been the worst airport i've flown out of so far. But getting there was pretty fun on this little cart. They really need a new design person though as it still reads as pis mover to me.
@gregs2284
@gregs2284 3 года назад
Reminds me of the Birmingham cable pulled thing from the airport to Birmingham Airport train station. But this confuses me immensely. I've flown into Pisa airport and I recall there was a real train station there. I took a real train from the airport to Florence from it. I don't recall seeing this and I don't understand why they would have something like this if they have a train station there. Did they rip out the train station for this?
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 3 года назад
Yep, the rail link was replaced with the peoplemover in 2017
@LucaPasini
@LucaPasini 3 года назад
Yes, they dismantled a fairly recent railway line, whose right of way is now used by the people mover. It has been a really controversial project, considered by many as a huge waste of public money as it costs much more, both to operate and for the passenger, than the previous railway, it's slower, and makes through services to other cities impossible. Pisa Airport is a major hub for Ryanair, but its once fast growth has been reducing for years. A similar project built to connect Bologna Airport to the railway station and opened during the ill-fated 2020 will probably end up being even worse, with a single ticket costing 8€ for a seven minute trip, but at least it didn't replace an existing railway.
@NozomuYume
@NozomuYume 3 года назад
@@LucaPasini That's because peoplemovers are a garbage extra step that only add transfers and wait times when they're used as an intermodal link (between airport and train station). They're a terrible replacement for a real rail link, and I have no idea why Pisa would replace a real rail link that they already had with this crap. Peoplemovers work great for short trips inside a given facility where the peoplemover *is* the transit. Say, getting between terminals in an airport, or getting around a large campus facility. Even so, their poor headways and low speeds mean that I often beat them walking on some systems when I'm only going a single station. Moving walkways are often a better method for those short trips as despite the lower speed there is zero wait time.
@LucaPasini
@LucaPasini 3 года назад
@@NozomuYume I'm well aware of that, and I totally agree: the problem is why and how some public executives and politicians were persuaded to build this kind of infrastructure.
@amiausUSA
@amiausUSA 3 года назад
This looks like a larger version of the shuttle in Milan, between Cascina Gobba and Ospedale San Rafaelle. I rode that shuttle on 29th April 2001, almost twenty years ago.
@ThomasJM
@ThomasJM 3 года назад
It's a bit like one we have at our airport in Toronto, except each train is on its own track.
@JimbobsTransportVideos
@JimbobsTransportVideos 3 года назад
The Pis Mover very funny name
@juanescobar8123
@juanescobar8123 3 года назад
Aren't they building a similar thing at Luton to connect Luton Airport parkway train station to the airport and replace the shuttle bus
@DC4260Productions
@DC4260Productions 3 года назад
That is a curious little system. It kind of reminds me of the pods at Heathrow or the Berlin M-Bahn.
@erik_griswold
@erik_griswold 3 года назад
This is cable drawn.
@sqlim85
@sqlim85 2 года назад
This airport shuttle only goes for less than 2 km and it is 5 EUR / adult person. You'r better off taking the taxi. You can go to the other side od the Pisa for about 15 EUR. If your are at least two adult persons it is a no brainer.
@johnathanlane3311
@johnathanlane3311 3 года назад
Has anyone ever said you sound a lot like lando norris
@moonam8389
@moonam8389 3 года назад
When was this filmed just wondering as the station seemed fairly empty
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 3 года назад
November 2019
@McFlorry2
@McFlorry2 3 года назад
I noticed the "MiniMetro" branding on the front of the train. Is that an ad for the game?
@samlerman-hahn2674
@samlerman-hahn2674 3 года назад
Minimetro is also the name of HTI Group's detachable grip cable-hauled people mover technology, has nothing to do with the game
@sevans7737
@sevans7737 3 года назад
@@samlerman-hahn2674 Same font and everything. I’m surprised the two have no correlation.
@johncrwarner
@johncrwarner 3 года назад
This reminds me of the Parry People Movers that run between the two Stourbridge stations Stourbridge Junction and Stourbridge Town Have you been on that short line in the West Midlands?
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 3 года назад
I haven't, but I know of it. Though the vehicle on that line is also called a 'People Mover', it uses conventional tracks, unlike this system
@AlasdairMacCaluim
@AlasdairMacCaluim 3 года назад
Cool! Have you tried the Venice people mover? It’s fairly similar. I love an unusual railway me!
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 3 года назад
Yes I did! I visited it in August 2020 - that video is towards the middle of the current queue, so it will probably appear in a few months' time.
@juanescobar8123
@juanescobar8123 3 года назад
I once had a cruise trip that started in Venice so I stayed at a hotel on the mainland and took a bus to the island in the morning and arrived in the city centre. I wish I knew about the people mover because I definitely would've taken it to the cruise terminal
@tf8896
@tf8896 3 года назад
Does this technically make it a funicular due to it being cable hauled?
@laju
@laju 3 года назад
More like a cable car, like in San Francisco. Not sure about this one, but they make these either with a fixed grip to the cable or detachable grip.
@samlerman-hahn2674
@samlerman-hahn2674 3 года назад
@@laju This particular technology (HTI Group Minimetro) is detachable grip
@DavidFrankal
@DavidFrankal 3 года назад
Very good question - arguably yes. I believe the tram in San Francisco qualifies as well (like the similar Great Orme tramway in Llandudno). NB to avoid confusion, 'cable car' in the UK refers to elevated pods that hang from a cable (eg the Emirates Air Line in London) Although that being said, there isn't a clear top or bottom on this system, so maybe not. Maybe it depends on how the cable system is configured (and are the two cars linked together)
@tf8896
@tf8896 3 года назад
@@DavidFrankal It is a matter of language as well with “cable car”. Most English speakers are familiar with the Cable Car as the suspended pods (like the Emirates Air Line) and funicular as a usually slanted train car attached to a revolving cable loop (like in Genova and Istanbul). However, it gets foggier with systems like San Fransisco calling their trams as cable cars, and in a same fashion, the Japanese call funiculars as “Cable cars” as well. (Where the cable car in english is referred as a “Ropeway” in japnese) To avoid ambiguity, I supplement “cable car” with “teleferic”, which is a french derived word use to unique identify Cable cars
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