Anthony, please talk about the Cure more. Like please do a cure tier list or classic review or anything. I just feel like big music channels don't really bring up the band often so im sure many people would appreciate you talking about them more.
This was the original list they did in 2002: 1. Sonic Youth - Daydream Nation 2. Talking Heads - Remain In Light 3. Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique 4. Pixies - Doolittle 5. R.E.M. - Murmur 6. The Smiths - The Queen Is Dead 7. Pixies - Surfer Rosa 8. Tom Waits - Rain Dogs 9. Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back 10. Joy Division - Closer
Swap out Doolittle and Queen is Dead (fuck Morrissey) for Songs About Fucking and Disintegration, and Daydream Nation for Sister. Pretty solid list otherwise.
I've tried this album for the first time a few months ago and it almost literally bored me to tears. I mean, I love The Cure's hit songs, and it was the first time I've tried one of their albums from back to back, but god... what a painful experience. See, I'm not a hater, I usually try an album a few times before forming an opinion but not this one, not ever again. It's just insanely overrated imo.
I love how people seem to forget MJ and Prince are the definition of apples and oranges musically. Both were masters at their games, but it really boils down to personal preference. Pop and mainstream r&b fans I know seem to love MJ more, funk and rock fans I know seem to prefer Prince. It's very simple
They're two wildly popular, rather feminine, talented light-skin black dudes from the 80s. That's all they have in common. Their music is very different.
@@bigbananadealer846could've been fun, but it would've been a record label nightmare. Sony would never let MJ work on Prince's label and Warner would've never loaned Prince out to MJ's label
I love Daydream Nation, I think it’s accessible and every song has a cool hook. It’s a calling card album for the band even though it’s not the ultimate statement of what made them unique in rock music.
@@unitedleagueofgamers3633whatever you say man nard was known to push it sometimes I mean he had to he genuinely wasn’t as known or had that nice guy reputation and also bruh was known to ask very personal questions back then
Only been about two years since I found out and first listened to Disintegration but by the number of times I've listened to it the enjoyment I still get out of it, it's probably my most favourite album. Truly perfect from start to finish, not a single track that slacks.
There are so many lyrics on this album that you could pen on a notebook or in the liner of a book and then you stumble upon it years later and they still ring as true as the day you wrote then down.
Man 5 years ago i would have totally lost my mind at tht placement. One of my top 5 albums for a long time. but recently ive gone back and it really does get kind of monotonous at points. Personally i really enjoy dirty and goo for the structure and humor on songs like dirty boots or kool thing Edit: Teenage riot remains the quintessential indie rock song tho
seriously, what the hell. i like the other sonic youth albums too. but nah, daydream nation is an easy S tier for me. C is just purposely controversial 🤬
I don't care about the c tier, I just don't get how he thinks Goo is better. I do get why he would prefer Sister and Evol (Sister is just more direct and wild), but still.
as someone whose favorite album ever is Daydream Nation and has been watching your channel for almost 10 years, this video hurts 😭 guess we’re never gonna get that Daydream Nation classic review
"Don't Believe the Hype" is probably one of my favorite songs to listen to when looking back and reflecting on getting involved with the military, and Afghanistan. Banger album.
Hounds of love deserved S tier. Big satisfaction at that. One of the best albums of all time, and one that means a lot to me. Truly a special project. Kate bush best art pop artist of all time.
I tried mine (chronological order): Closer (1980) Remain in Light (1980) Moving Pictures (1981) Thriller (1982) Meat Is Murder (1985) Rain Dogs (1985) Master of Puppets (1986) Doolittle (1989) Disintegration (1989) The Stone Roses (1989) Honorable mentions: Scary Monsters (and Super Creeps) (1980), The River (1980), Discipline (1981), Clics Modernos (1983), Double Nickels on the Dime (1984), Hounds of Love (1985), Signos (1986), Sign "O" the Times (1987), Spirit of Eden (1988), Daydream Nation (1988).
maybe a bit too much - its not like she doesn't get love on other lists. This list feels like its overdoing it like it will make up for how that a$$hole treated her and ruined her career.
@@xBINARYGODx I'm not aware of the history but how was her career ruined? She is one of the most successful pop musicians of all time as numbers go, but I'm happy to learn some Jackson lore.
@@xBINARYGODxNah. Janet Jackson can never be praised too much in my opinion. She’s incredible. Her influence and artistry with Jam and Lewis spans much, much larger than people give her credit for. Control itself basically pioneered New Jack Swing, industrial pop, and masterfully fused R&B, pop, and even hip hop.
Basically, Justin Timberlake and Janet pulled light striptease stunt at the SuperBowl. Because Americans aren‘t aware that women have breasts, the nation collectively lost its mind and called the stunt Nipple-Gate. Then, Justin threw her under the bus saying he wasn‘t aware that ripping her clothes apart would expose her … (yes, sure). Then, she was blacklisted.
@@arvaakuka8568 she was "ruined" in the sense that it seemed to end her hitmaking days literally overnight. It was so ridiculous how people reacted and people have come around, but it still doesn't undo the backlash she went through. In comparison, Michael and Madonna saw massive backlashes too, but they were never publicly flogged the way Janet was and having radio and MTV boycotting them
10. Stevie Nicks - Belladonna 9. Prince - Purple Rain 8. The Cure - Disintegration 7. Duran Duran - Rio 6. Tears for Fears - Songs from the Big Chair 5. The Pretenders - Pretenders II 4. Depeche Mode - Speak & Spell 3. Metallica - Kill em all 2. Madonna - True Blue 1. Michael Jackson - Thriller
I miss the worst to best series, and I would absolutely not argue with a Kate Bush one. I haven't really heard Fantano talk about anything of hers other than Hounds.
@@jefficient1 disagree, while Last Dance for example doesnt really add anything of substance to the record, its a great song overall and I'm glad they put it on the re-issue
@@andymulai2765Off The Wall, yes, but Bad is not as good as those two albums. Go listen to "Just Good Friends", "Speed Demon" and "Leave Me Alone" then tell me they're better than the worst moments on Thriller and Off The Wall. Some of the most generic shit Michael has ever recorded.
@@saintkevinofficial nah of all the tracks you diss speed demon😭easily better then the girl is mine, lady in my life, wanna be starting something and arguably baby be mine and as for the other 2 they go even harder
@@andymulai2765 I disagree on Wanna Be Startin Something. That is an EPIC pop song. From beginning to end, it’s pretty much wildly perfect. I also think Baby Be Mine is great but other than I agree.
This got me to go back to relisten to Disintegration. My god that album is just so magical and wonderful. Only negative I can say about it is that it was the first domino to get me into really artsy sadboy music, which made me kind of a pretentious tw*t during my teenage years
I got into Disintegration because of that Robert Smith South Park episode where Kyle shouts that Disintegration is greatest album ever. Thankful for that.
daydream nation was done so dirty here. fires on all cylinders and never stops until the end of the record. teen age riot, silver rocket, the sprawl, cross the breeze, total trash, candle and the trilogy are all timers and it all comes together to make the best album of the 80s
After seeing The Cure this summer, transcendant is the perfect word. Robert Smith in his fucking 60s is schooling most vocal contempories in his form. Vintage form. I could go on about Disintegration for days. Lovesong could be the greatest love song ever, Plainsong the greatest opener ever, and Untitled a great closer as well. So many other songs like Pictures of You, Fascination Street, Lullaby, Prayers for Rain, and my goodness the title track. It's in my desert island albums for a reason. It's magnificent
It’s all down to personal enjoyment for fantano, not it’s impact or influence. He even did a classic review for the album because he recognises that it has classic status but that doesn’t mean he personally enjoys it the most.
@@Prodbyjah464 Yeah but the purpose of these rankings he does is a bit blurred. Like is he ranking how Pitchfork got it right or wrong or is he ranking how he enjoys the album. If it's the latter, makes sense but if it's the former, in my humble opinion, I think Pitchfork got it right to put it at #2.
@@seanhein6599 I mean not really, like I said the entire purpose is based off of personal enjoyment, not whether or not he thought pitchfork got it right. That can only be judged after he goes through the whole list. It really ain’t that hard to figure out that fantano rates things on how much he likes them, not some criteria that determines whether things are good or bad. Ik it seems that way cause he can explain why he likes and dislikes stuff but that’s the truth.
@@Prodbyjah464 For other decades he did mention about how Pitchfork got it right. I go try to dig them. For one on top of my head, it's Kid A on one of his lists about each year's top album of the 2000s by Pitchfork. So I thought it's also about how Pitchfork got it right. But maybe it's just a passive remark he made. I hear you though. I'm not disagreeing with you, it's his taste but also I thought there's that extra bit in these videos.
i literally looked through the entire list the other week to see where pixies ranked, surfer rosa was way high up on the ranking considering its the record every modern rock band try rip off, and doolittle i think was 13ish. for me theyd be 1st n 2nd respectively but ig i am biased lol. idk if ive ever heard fantano even mention pixies
You’re Living All Over Me is a great record, but as a noise rock fan I feel like both YLAOM and Daydream Nation serve different purposes. YLAOM feels like amazing noise rock perfectly cut out into pop tracks, with great hooks and energy. Daydream Nation, however, feels like a trickling, slow descent into a noise-abyss, songs moving to the fringes of sound and creating atmospheres which can’t be found on any other records from the 80s. Truly a standout record and highlights the capabilities of recording and pushed the limits for noise rock and alt. rock as a whole
Daydream Nation is a band at the height of their creative powers. The songwriting and experimental balance was never before or after as strong. This take is probably why I only agree with this critic 50% of the time. No arguments with RIL and Disintegration though
I'm okay with his take of how it rates relative to their other albums, but it's placement in C Tier relative to the 80s in general, and specifically compared to the dross he places higher, is insane and culturally illiterate.
Doolittle, The Queen Is Dead, Closer, and Power Corruption & Lies all being outside the Top 10 makes me feel like Pitchfork are second-guessing themselves. Like, they're worried people would think a publication with a historical bias towards indie rock would *obviously* pick those records, so they pushed them down the list.
Music is for listening to.. not to be pontificated about.. being subjective it is irrelevant what some bloke is spouting about it.. put your headphones on and listen to 'NWA' or 'Dark side of the Moon' and enjoy your own opinion of it.. best not let it get coloured or tainted by some random bloke whose personal opinion is irrelevant when it comes to music.. just listen for yourself.. and enjoy your own experience.. happy listening.
I'm glad I've found someone that agrees that Bad is a better album experience than Thriller. Also i, too, think it works better as a compilation than as a studio album
exactly I just wish michael would have released more than 2 albums during the 80s like release new albums at a faster rate instead of 4 years even luther vandross and billy ocean released at least 5 albums a decade michael was too much of a perfectionist I guess
@@michaelsevilla3697I think it’s also to do with the backlash and critiques from the media post Thriller hype. Also with the fact he wanted Bad to be an even bigger album than Thriller could of influenced the long gap between albums. I just wish he released more albums in general but like you said he was too much of a perfectionist.
i hate when anthony does that thing of trying not make the most obvious choices as a critic and he ends up favoring a band's second most critically acclaimed album
Paul’s Boutique is a masterpiece. It’s a classic but still kinda underrated somehow. Paved the way for how sampling is done. I would love it if you did a classic review of this at the end of the year?
@@pinthecool1 How the hell does Songs from the Big Chair suck? The songwriting and hits on there are not only emblematic of the period, but the album has a great share of badass variety in pop, prog, rock, and new wave. Id suggest a relisten, my guy. As for Bruce, I figured Born in the USA was rebellious and edgy enough to find a high spot on there, lol.
"Will check out purple rain/prince too btw!" Oh sweet Jesus, do yourself a favour and *savour* that moment for all it's worth. I am so jealous of you for having the opportunity to listen to *Purple Rain*, in my opinion the best album ever made, for the first time. I hope it does for you even 10% of what it did for me. Happy listening!
🎵 0:00 - 0:02 - ........... that's fine Think we got too sexy for that metro housin' (way too sexy) Diamond popped out, almost swallowed sixty thousand (sixty piece)🎵
I think Violent Femmes self titled and especially The Replacements: Let it Be should be in an 80's top ten. On a personal note, X: Wild Gift is a ten. I feel like people forget that Dead Kennedys:Fresh Fruit is an 80's album, definitely in with a shout of top 10. Also, Brian Eno: Ambient 4, probably my favourite Eno ambient project, and another 10 for me.
Straight Outta Compton has too many forgettable songs to deserve a spot here. There are too many equally genre-creating or genre-defining records that are 10s from start to finish for me to like the pick I can't understand why it made the list when equally important (but altogether better) records like Master of Puppets or Moving Pictures didn't
It’s Pitchfork. There almost no chance they’d put a genuine metal album on a top 10 decade list, despite an album like Master of Puppets being near perfect (in my opinion) and incredibly influential.
This list came out pretty close to when that horrible Straight Outta Compton movie came out and I think that had a huge impact on it. The fact that this is in the top 10 and not Paul’s Boutique or The Queen is Dead or Paid in Full is a crime.
Depends on opinion ig cus although I couldn’t live without either, purple rain is objectively a more cohesive and energetic album that’s more easily digestible where as sott is a double album for true Prince fans
Agreed. He didn't like "Human Nature", "The Girl is Mine" and "Baby Be Mine". He claimed they were too "breezy". I get not liking the duet with Paul McCartney...but the other two??
definitely and got the hots the demo song definitely should have been on thriller instead of the cheesy the girl is mine, it's the best demo song MJ ever did
The 80s were so good. Even the bands and artists who were considered “bad” like Chicago had their fair share of bangers. I’ll belt out “YOURE THE MEANING IN MY LIFE, YOURE THE INSPIRATION” every time it comes on. Even the bad stuff was still pretty decent. I’ll take the worst 80s pop song over anything from the lazy sample trend pop and rap music is going through right now.
The rock outro of Hard To Say I'm Sorry kicks ass, I always crank that part up because it's just so random how this ballad starts rocking hard near the end, love the contrast
@user-kb9fy1hr1ethe worst 80s cover is still less lazy than whatever the next David Guetta song is where he steals a classic dance hit, ruins it and makes it sound like a Chainsmokers B-side.
I hate to push the comments # over 666! Favoring Goo over Daydream Nation is absurd, when tracks 4-10 are at best spotty ("Cinderella's Big Score"), jokey throwaways ("My Friend Goo"), filler (most of it) or completely embarrassing ("Kool Thing"). That leaves four good tracks, none of which surpass the best of Daydream. That album disappointed me the day it came out and hasn't stopped since. I'll take Dirty or Washing Machine over Goo.
The Wall The Stone Roses The Joshua Tree Kiss Me Kiss Kiss Me Energy : Operation Ivy The Queen Is Dead Disintegration The Hounds Of Love Appetite For Destruction Songs From The Big Chair : Tears For Fears
Considering metal was arguably one of the most popular and successful genres from the 80’s, I’m surprised not one album from the top 10 is a metal album. Back In Black, Master of Puppets, Appetite for Destruction, Blizzard of Ozz
Swap NWA for Talk Talk’s Spirit of Eden, Sonic Youth for Roxy Music’s Avalon and maybe swap Purple Rain (make no mistake, I adore it) for Sign “O” The Times and its perfect.
i’d say the best of the 80s are 1: The Queen Is Dead- The Smiths 2: The Stone Roses- The Stone Roses 3: Purple Rain- Prince 4: Pornography- The Cure 5: Somewhere In Time- Iron Maiden 6: Hounds Of Love- Kate Bush 7: Psychocandy- The Jesus and Mary Chain 8: Power, Corruption and Lies- New Order 9: Hatful Of Hollow- The Smiths 10: Fresh Fruit for Rotting Vegetables- Dead Kennedys I’m not a Michael Jackson fan in the slightest so no Thriller here.
I've tried to enjoy Purple Rain so many times throughout my life and it's one of the few classics that does nothing for me outside of a couple of the weirder musical choices. Is there some context or suggestion you'd have for somebody still wishing they "got" it?
@@JamosHeat You’re right, I mean technically it’s a B-Side compilation, but it’s still one of the best releases of the 80s and has How Soon Is Now? which is my favourite song of all time.
I couldn’t agree more about It Takes A Nation Of Millions. Absolutely fantastic hip hop record. Top five for me. It hits just as hard today as it did back then, both in terms of production and social commentary. Chuck D was absolutely ferocious on this record. I also absolutely agree about Daydream Nation. I would actually be a little harsher. I like certain tracks on it like the title track and The Sprawl. But I honestly find a majority of the album to be a slog to get through. They did way more interesting and punchy work in the 90’s.
Some of my favorite 80s records Kate Bush - The Dreaming/ The Sensual World/ Hounds Of Love Peter Gabriel - So. Rick Springfield - Tao. Love the song: Don't Walk Away Paul Young - The Secrets of associon Peter Cetera - Solitude/ Solitaire. Jane Child - Jane child. Howard Jones - Dream Into Action. Pet Shop Boys - Please. A-ha - Stay On These Roads The Dream Academy - The Dream Academy There are so many great hits that come from good records. But they are not records. I can just listen all the way through if I were to name all my favorite songs of the 80s. This would be too many paragraphs.
I was thinking the same thing regarding Sonic Youth, especially when it comes to Goo. 90% of everything on Goo as me waaaay more interested than the stuff on Daydream Nation.
