I just had made reference to allegory of the cave after reading chapter X for my history of modern art class. I really love to see this video posted your RU-vid teaching is amazing please keep it up!
@@PhiloofAlexandria I greatly appreciate that Mr.B !! 🤠👌 You’re doing the world a huge favor with your videos your enthusiasm towards philosophy is truly inspiring & I’m glad you’re here to share it with us please keep doing what you do !
Brilliant exposition. Only two powers are missing: the intellectus and grace. Dr Bonevac might have gone into the crucial distinction between the intellectus and the ratio, or the nous and dianoia. The intellectus is what he calls the eye of the mind or heart, dormant in most humans but emanating from their spiritual nature of humanity made in the image of God, to use Christian metaphors. It is awakened by the intellect opening itself to Divine grace, which enables it to break the chains of some of the prisoners and turn round to begin to see the truth behind the shadows. Plato is in fact silent about how exactly these break loose and start the conversio,, or who drags them uphill when they feel reluctant to climb out. And Kudos to Bonevac for humbly admitting he does not know how we apprehend the forms, echoing Plato. But we must admit that Plato’s written works are not the whole story of his philosophy, which he practiced as a way of life, a mystical discipline that gave him a direct and experiential enlightenment that is reflected in his written corpus. The Spirit bloweth where it listeth !
Thanks. I agree-there's a gap in the view expressed in the Republic that isn't filled explicitly until Philo, Origen, Augustine, and others develop this in a religious context.
@@PhiloofAlexandria I agree about the gap, but I believe that the Logos that enlightens every man (as per St John’s Gospel) was already working in the Greek philosophical miracle before he fully revealed Himself in the Incarnation. That is why Greek philosophy providentially became the intellectual underpinning of Christian thought and contributed to what we now call Western Civilization. Thanks again for your lectures, they are wonderful and eloquent articulations of the Good.
reading republic gave a different impression to me, the purpose of this section appears to consolidate the fact that how people will perceive the unknown and will not trust the reality even if they are informed. Anyway, you know better.
I don’t think you’re wrong. What makes Plato great is partly that there are many dimensions of what he’s saying. I’m focusing on one aspect; you’re seeing another.
Would the theory of forms be directly related to how the doctrine of the Logos is perceived? That the Forms are the Logos and the Logos being the mind of God?
It might be a good idea to release new videos just before your intended audience gets off work or finished classes for the day. Releasing new videos at night after they've already gone to bed may not be the best time. That said, as a grad student, I'm typically awake around this time :)
